< 1475884824 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many points is fear of left-handed plumbers worth in GURPS? < 1475884835 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: GURPS? < 1475884839 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d points < 1475884869 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it is supposed to be a fixed number I think < 1475884879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the advantage of asking IRC rather than google.com? < 1475884891 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's slower and takes more work on other people's part. < 1475884905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, what's GURPS? < 1475884918 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it. < 1475884922 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google GURPS? < 1475884924 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/ < 1475884924 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: GURPS: Generic Universal RolePlaying System < 1475884928 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google Seriously, what's GURPS? < 1475884930 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=34588 < 1475884930 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: GURPS Mushroom Kingdom. No, I'm serious. - Steve Jackson Games Forums < 1475884949 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, tabletop RPG < 1475885028 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475885062 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475885083 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475885133 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475885285 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475885794 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37578111 < 1475885803 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...That's not a loophole, that's an intentional exception < 1475885931 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a loophole in that it allowed someone complicit in the killing to forgive it < 1475886257 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@2607:fcc8:9f81:600:c884:a187:f9de:6e19 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1475886287 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rjfdvhqjzvhpcgyk JOIN :#esoteric < 1475886611 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475887249 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475887365 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1475887413 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1475887418 0 :olsner_!?@? NICK :olsner < 1475887514 0 :Warrigal!?@? NICK :tswett < 1475887981 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475887986 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There does seem enough rules to define an attack that allows the target of the attack to make more quickly calculations for one minute but also stuns the target, but the attack can only be used if you are playing trumpet, and only five times per day. However, there seem to specification of if a power can be used only five times per week, or if the use is expended only in certain circumstances (such as if an attack hits, or if you aren't wearing a m < 1475888182 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Rule 1: s/m /mn / makes a profane word. <-- profane shmofane < 1475888217 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also works with s/n /mn / < 1475888223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjamn < 1475888234 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, it does? < 1475888245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppaviliomn[1] < 1475888277 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(incidentally en:name = nynorsk:namn) < 1475888311 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Excellent, excellent... < 1475888315 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also swedish, google reminds me < 1475888330 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need s///, but for pronunciation < 1475888350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s[][], obviously < 1475888350 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjammit < 1475888353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1475888411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is reminded about the joke that the swedish definite suffixes are -fan (common) and -helvetet (neuter) < 1475888464 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :could work in norwegian too, i guess < 1475888510 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know Swedish grammar < 1475888528 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475888536 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(those words actually mean Satan and Hell, respectively) < 1475888557 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1475888592 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the former being a colloquial nick mostly used for swearing. < 1475888613 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, is Helvetica a hell font? < 1475888629 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: to a scandinavian it definitely sounds that way < 1475888707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the _actual_ definite suffixes are -(e)n/-an and -et, afair) < 1475888746 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although my swedish grammar obviously has holes < 1475888754 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than mine. < 1475888771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION only recently learned that "Euler" is pronounced [ɔɪɫər] rather than [juːɫər] < 1475888790 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm not sure -an is not just -n after a word already ending in -a < 1475888804 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Log to base ə... < 1475888825 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is what? < 1475888827 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AKA ɫn(x)) < 1475888869 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475888874 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Me? < 1475888885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ideally i think the final ər is usually ɐ in modern german < 1475888894 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1475888959 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonhard_Euler seems to agree, but depending on dialect < 1475889006 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm also i don't know where you get the ɫ from, afair german l is clear < 1475889021 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ə = 1/e wouldn't be a particularly surprising definition < 1475889037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think < 1475889050 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's how I would pronounce it in my dialect, which is all I really know < 1475889059 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Ah, OK < 1475889064 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defining a power in GURPS that can be used twice per hour seems easy enough to do by using modifiers of -30% and x2, but then it costs more than unlimited use! < 1475889068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ok. except i doubt you use the ipa [r] < 1475889082 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1475889093 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a trilled alveolar r < 1475889100 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[r]? < 1475889101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1475889134 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some english dialects don't pronounce the r, i think. even rhotic ones may just color the vowel. < 1475889141 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm slowly learning to trill my r's; I finally found out the reason I can't is that trilled rs have to be based on an r made more like a dark l than a w) < 1475889202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, looks like I'd use ɻ < 1475889203 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1475889225 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose [r] is acceptable in "broad" transcription. < 1475889238 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But [] isn't acceptable in broad transcription < 1475889239 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wikipedia ipa chart for english seems to use it. < 1475889248 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm true. < 1475889252 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BT uses // < 1475889384 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"trilled r" is a stupid name; it should be "trilled r", but with the r rolled < 1475889463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, the name of the letter for trilled r- 'r̃' is 'ar̃') < 1475889530 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, I went with 'r̃'. Spain & Mexico (& Portugese (& Brazil)) don't get a monopoly on tildes. We must take them for glory and honor, and so CNN changes their stupid logo for the spanish translation) < 1475889648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i've recently realized i can only trill with the right part of my tongue :P < 1475889800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should that be, with my tongue shifted rightwards < 1475889855 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a feeling this may be a recent development. < 1475890033 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1475890048 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1475890231 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pooch < 1475890244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat no HackEgo < 1475890304 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in that stupid not-joined-the-channel state again < 1475890326 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you invite it < 1475890334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can HackEgo get a feature where it responds to /invite < 1475890346 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ^ < 1475890366 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also fizzie who can at least rejoin it < 1475890422 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a feature where it actually joins the channel after connecting might also be nice hth < 1475890568 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course this is pretty much the most likely time for both of them to not be seen again for days < 1475890884 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475892254 0 :clog_!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Quit: ^C < 1475892273 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475892533 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1475894239 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475894772 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475895154 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1475895814 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yttmulsyjtuuatkd JOIN :#esoteric < 1475895853 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1475895948 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475896100 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475896160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do any of the languages you regularly have to speak include trills? < 1475896202 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We present a proof of the conjecture NP=PSPACE [...]" < 1475896205 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://arxiv.org/abs/1609.09562 Bravo. < 1475896309 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@2607:fcc8:9f81:600:52c:e5d0:e01f:8e8f JOIN :#esoteric < 1475896671 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: technically "have to speak" only includes norwegian and english, so ... no, not obligatorily. < 1475896687 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Which is what I was going for :P < 1475896721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it feels natural in norwegian when singing, though. depends on the dialect of the song. < 1475896769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mostly i've been noticing this because i've been trying to learn some russian songs, and russians apparently do trill. < 1475896777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I figured there was a chance you also had to speak Danish or Swedish because you're near the border or something) < 1475896788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :npikhq = pikhqspace? < 1475896806 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegians rarely change their language to danish or swedish. < 1475896814 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But then again, you could just speak Norwegian itself) < 1475896822 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, I'm using the chart) < 1475896827 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's expected they'll understand norwegian. < 1475896843 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how Danish for 'island' is ø < 1475896845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if they don't, many norwegians will prefer to use english. < 1475896853 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it the Netherlands (Daneland?) is very islandic < 1475896871 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most wouldn't even manage danish. its phonology is _weird_. < 1475896905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But hey. At least it isn't finnish. < 1475896921 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finns definitely get the english treatment. < 1475896954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Absolute gibberish. < 1475897130 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq> https://arxiv.org/abs/1609.09562 Bravo. <-- huh. the abstract does seem like they know their stuff. still might have an error, of course. < 1475897221 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh! 'absoluter' and 'absolutest' are actually valid comparatives for 'absolute'! < 1475897245 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not just in a 'you can say it and they'll get what you mean' way, but a 'actually honest-to-god acceptable way' < 1475897250 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, of course. The submitter appears to be a legit, published CS researcher in this space, but what that means is I'm listening, not that I assume it's inerrant, given that it's just published on arxiv at this point. :) < 1475897268 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475897276 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: huh wait, if its true this means the polynomial hierarchy collapses. a _lot_ of research is going out the window... < 1475897281 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it's < 1475897325 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it does turn a few of the "X subset of Y" into "X = Y = Z". < 1475897358 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just that, there are many theorems of the form "if this were true then the polynomial hierarchy would collapse". < 1475897380 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1475897419 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475897419 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. i think "graph isomorphism is NP-complete" is one such. < 1475897596 0 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475897602 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475897629 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I take it the Netherlands (Daneland?) is very islandic <-- um are you mixing two countries... < 1475897650 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :denmark is pretty islandic, but also has a continental part. < 1475897660 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So, that leaves us with, what, P=NP as the last polynomial hierarchy question? < 1475897661 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... < 1475897669 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where're the Netherlands again? < 1475897678 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*P=?NP, probably better way to write it < 1475897725 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes, denmark < 1475897755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: P ≤ NP < 1475897759 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1475897797 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: a little more down to the left hth < 1475897809 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, if we assume that ≤ is just a weird way of writing ⊆, then that's actually correct < 1475897816 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1475897968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Danish is spoken in Daneland, the same way English is spoken in England, Scottish in Scotland, Irish in Ireland, Spanish in Spain, and Green in Greenland < 1475897986 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*greenish < 1475898082 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Pakish is spoken in Pakistan, Afghanish in Afghanistan, Kazakhish in Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzish in Kyrgyzstan, Tajikish in Tajikistan, Uzbekish in Uzbekistan, and Turkmenish in Turkmenistan? < 1475898101 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, fine, and Hindush in Hindustan. < 1475898140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hindu kush < 1475898365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proposal: System of naming more general than just " {} []" < 1475898392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of just [personal name, family name], you have a hierarchy < 1475898459 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like [ancestry, clan, segment, household, personal] (note the reversed order) < 1475898534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So as to indicate more than just family-person; it also includes segment (which is a small area of the family- like yourself and close cousins), clan (which is just the extended family as far as one is concerned), and ancestry (...whatever, maybe it's just national origin or something?) < 1475898540 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just to make names that much mroe complicated < 1475898797 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :History Rewrite: Georg Cantor is an abbreviation; he actually had uncountably many surnames. < 1475898844 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you're suggesting that names should actually be cladistic. < 1475898879 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently in some places they do common have two given name and two surname < 1475898918 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly all names should start with "Animalia chordata synapsida mammalia primates haplorhini hominidae homo sapiens sapiens". < 1475898932 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, some people use their middle name as their commonly used name instead of their first name < 1475898947 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's missing a few. < 1475898983 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: In contexts where names for creatures with multiple species are common then I suppose it might be useful, but even then it would be abbreviated since you aren't going to write all of that. < 1475899001 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know what circumstances that would even be, but maybe there are some.) < 1475899002 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Somewhat < 1475899030 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well, clades terminate automatically; you don't go back TOO far < 1475899040 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phytae eukaryota opisthokonta are missing, as well as bilateria deuterostomia. < 1475899058 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I like the clade including all life! < 1475899059 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The rule would likely be if you're going beyond the fourth level above given name, you're overdoing it) < 1475899071 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, it's always bugged me that there isn't a term for that < 1475899084 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phytae is probably the best name for it. < 1475899102 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we'll have something different to call alien life with no biological cladicity to us < 1475899121 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though to account for xenobiology, gaiaphytae < 1475899130 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But the problem with treating it as a clade is that people come from other families too < 1475899202 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, family != clade, really. < 1475899223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( Some city in the US should declare itself to be male, so everyone has to say 'brother city' ) < 1475899225 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also a real poor fit for things like adoption, because as it turns out human notions of "family" are only correlated with genetic relation. < 1475899286 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, that too < 1475899308 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: My younger sister is adopted, but I occasionally forget this and try to apply genetics < 1475899313 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, at least, I used to) < 1475899337 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And she's Chinese, so it's not like ANYBODY thinks we're genetically related < 1475899372 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, actually, I mentioned to someone at school that she's Chinese the other day- she's been sick recently and we think it might be lactose- and the person said "wait, you're Chinese?") < 1475899384 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, except in the sense that there exists a unique smallest clade containing you and your younger sister. < 1475899402 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: phyta technically is plural already and means "plants" hth < 1475899414 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I speak not greek, and boy does it show. < 1475899432 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh duh, that'd be some variant of "bio", wouldn't it? < 1475899434 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well neither do i, but i can search wiktionary < 1475899435 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Biota? < 1475899444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Obviously no one here knows what I look like, but my father is pretty much entirely Norwegian by ancestry, and my mother is a "northern-European mutt") < 1475899463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ah, yes, that is true < 1475899467 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's VERY large < 1475899481 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It contains a substantial portion of the species, yes. < 1475899508 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not all of it, but definitely a lot of it. < 1475899514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably more related to Elon Musk than to her by genetics < 1475899549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, unless we're both direct descendants of Marco Polo or something < 1475899598 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh, the "McWhatever" thing in Irish tradition is a shorthand for 'son of Whomever', but there also existed for a while 'NcWhatever' for girls < 1475899608 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, you could be "Johnsdaughter" < 1475899618 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or Johndaughter) < 1475899623 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1475899643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though really, if you want to use '-son' except as an archaic remaining prefix, you really have to nest < 1475899727 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robert Erick John Joseph Peter Jose` Michael Albert Donaldsonsonsonsonsonsonsonsonson < 1475899741 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(±1 son) < 1475899767 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the icelandic still use -dóttir < 1475899795 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course most of them don't _have_ family names. < 1475899805 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only patronymicons < 1475899806 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Icelandics still directly use patronymic surnames, no? < 1475899840 0 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475899856 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what do you do when someone asks you a question you just answered simultaneously?) < 1475899867 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do believe that when people get married, SOMEBODY should change their name < 1475899888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the priest can do it < 1475899889 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: In IRC, I think the polite thing to do is just let it go. < 1475899906 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I don't see why. < 1475899909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :priests have their names extended every time they marry someone. < 1475899919 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I like oerjan's version. < 1475899921 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care if the woman takes the man's name or the man takes the woman's name or they combine them or both hyphenate or make up something new < 1475899955 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if john jacob jingleheimer schmidt was a priest. < 1475899992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I would like them to have the SAME last name (exception: If G1 S1 and G2 S2 get married and choose to hyphenate, they can go with G1 S1-S2 and G2 S2-S1) < 1475900021 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, precisely, other than tradition? < 1475900045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: No utilitarian purpose, but it's nice to be able to generally tell which people are married < 1475900081 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly we should replace surnames with UUIDs. < 1475900100 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: UUIDs? But we want to be able to see relations < 1475900148 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And if you send a letter to people with different last names, you have to awkwardly say "Prefix [Firstname] Lastname & Prefix [Firstname] Lastname" instead of "Prefix & Prefix Lastname" < 1475900149 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1475900154 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475900217 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, this way there's no confusion over which name any resulting children take, and there is the symbolic aspect of them forming a family (by a definition of family that includes childless married couples) < 1475900288 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Japan it is mandatory for married people to have the same name (although they can choose what name that will be). < 1475900897 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And apparently in Quebec it is prohibited) < 1475901009 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What's prohibited in Quebec? < 1475901016 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sharing surnames? < 1475901117 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475901120 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1475901151 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They say it is for reason of "woman's right", but that is nonsense.) < 1475901209 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475901347 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My JavaScript object-serializer package can now serialize weak maps/sets (but only for keys found elsewhere by traversing the object being serialized; this includes values of weak maps where the keys have previously been found). < 1475901597 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@2607:fcc8:9f81:600:52c:e5d0:e01f:8e8f QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1475901664 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475901907 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475902023 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475902039 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475902164 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475902235 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475902548 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475902811 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475904619 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475904817 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would be some machine models that aren't a glorified register or stack based architecture? < 1475904863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1475904867 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure < 1475904886 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like it all boils down to either one.. < 1475904903 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps the Turing machine which uses only states and not registers or stacks, but it does use a tape. < 1475904912 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does a tape count anyways? < 1475904923 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tape kind of counts. it just substitutes random access with sequential access. < 1475905149 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm looking for something that a 10 year old could understand. < 1475905270 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: The Mill has a belt, which is FIFO rather than LIFO, rather than registers or a stack. < 1475905325 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: got an example "assembly" for this Mill? < 1475905359 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can read some at http://millcomputing.com/topic/introduction-to-the-mill-cpu-programming-model-2/ < 1475905382 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :An effect of this belt model is that actual Mill assembly is very hard to write by hand. < 1475905392 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a killer, then. < 1475905396 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's an intermediate assembly that people actually write, so they don't have to think about belt addressing. < 1475905406 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's pretty neat. < 1475905413 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how hard it actually is in practice. < 1475905415 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm interested in the lowest possible level of abstraction. closer to the machine you are, closer you are to the hardware attached to the machine. < 1475906030 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has the present king of France stopped robbing banks yet? < 1475906132 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the present king of the north pole < 1475906137 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also known as santa claus < 1475906174 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than the auto king of the north pole. < 1475907754 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-54-89.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1475907848 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-11-58.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475908048 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-11-58.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1475908060 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-11-58.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475908170 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone played Shenzhen I/O yet? Looks pretty interesting :) < 1475908311 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? blæge < 1475908328 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! < 1475908343 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FNONEGOTTTTTTTTTT < 1475908352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: hellu < 1475908428 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: Queue-based < 1475908452 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: Probably Kolmogorov < 1475908830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New field of research: Vexillo-phonology < 1475909049 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475909069 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475909118 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475909308 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1475909380 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1475909790 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a practically-standard *nix command (that works in the same syntax in all shells) to say "what shell am I using"? < 1475909913 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does "echo $0" work? < 1475909932 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that likely prints sh < 1475909942 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: https://github.com/stephane-chazelas/misc-scripts/blob/master/which_interpreter or http://stchaz.free.fr/which_interpreter or https://raw.github.com/mauke/poly.poly/master/poly.poly < 1475909951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK... < 1475909951 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my computer it prints "bash" < 1475909964 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: run sh and then use echo $0 < 1475909972 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also try "help", perhaps < 1475910028 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-11-58.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Cute. :) < 1475910037 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's really clever < 1475910063 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-11-58.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be happier if it were also a valid COM executable though. :P < 1475910073 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're asking too much <.< < 1475910092 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-11-58.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's a bit hard making a COM polyglot. < 1475910185 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-11-58.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That trigraph detection bit is quite nice, IMO. < 1475910206 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was something similar to which_interpreter on https://www.mirbsd.org/ but i can't find it... < 1475910395 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475910725 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475911664 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :octographs are fun < 1475911691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I believe I was taught about a pentagraph in 1th-2th grade; ought) < 1475911761 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1475912038 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475912742 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:3cff:b7b8:d0cb:798 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475913123 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason I decided to stream meyself on youtube playing toho, and ended up beating my high score < 1475913240 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do I always play toho the best when it's like 3 am < 1475913344 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone send a message without saying my nick < 1475913391 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no < 1475913410 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I entirely saw that coming, and thus had a plan < 1475913439 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sends a proceed order to the Predator Drone < 1475913458 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: see https://twitter.com/dril/status/384408932061417472 hth < 1475913518 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That is the greatest thing ever. Why? < 1475914195 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mesage < 1475914204 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Hm, yep < 1475914218 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want my client to beep, but only when a message is sent directly to me < 1475914936 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475914997 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1475915095 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do speech bubbles count as punctuation? < 1475915435 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think not? < 1475915489 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.90.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475915681 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.90.8 QUIT :Client Quit < 1475916067 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speech bubbles inside text would involve text saying other text, perhaps. < 1475916083 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( speech bubbles don't, but thought bubbles do ) < 1475916099 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.90.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475916104 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, like speech bubbles in comics; do the speech bubbles count as punctuation in the dialogue? < 1475916123 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you learn linear algebra yet? < 1475916136 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not entirely, but significantly < 1475917432 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475917560 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fire Consumes Big Happy Farm Where Families Send Sick Dogs To Run Free And Play" < 1475917628 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7hwu0y33odx5f.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475918243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens when one combines a Sci-Fi setting with Fantasy characters? < 1475918258 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, like, elves and dwarves and gnomes, but in a megafuture. < 1475918292 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And not in a "it turns out there are elf-aliens" way; more in a "what? We've always had elves. This is normal" way) < 1475918777 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475918929 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yttmulsyjtuuatkd QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1475919957 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1475921189 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question: What is the binomial name of Yggdrasil? < 1475921192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Answer: Fraxinus excelsior < 1475921245 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, I still haven't finished Spider & Web. And I can't even play TIS 100 atm... this laptop I'm using messes up the graphics. < 1475921284 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :text games have lower system requirements hth < 1475921348 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, look at this: http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/tis100.png < 1475921392 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue how that's happening. < 1475922221 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1475923828 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: That's a fairly good approximation of the correct image, though. < 1475923845 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if you compare to uniformly random pixels, for example. < 1475924243 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475924319 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much should i care about this? ==5072== still reachable: 1 bytes in 1 blocks < 1475924364 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1475924479 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, it'd be barely playable even, but not enjoyable... < 1475924529 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: start over from scratch!!!1eleven < 1475924601 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1475924604 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously, no clue, it depends very much on the context) < 1475924671 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I would generally like to know where that 1 byte was allocated. < 1475924724 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1475924743 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad clang's asan is broken on arch linux < 1475924755 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gcc's isn't that useful https://arin.ga/n58Wca/raw < 1475924974 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :really tired of this broken system < 1475925024 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's supposed to be a bleeding edge distro and this bug https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/50366 is almost 3 months old < 1475925051 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have to manually build newer versions of several packages because the official repos are old < 1475925083 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash for example, has been flagged out of date for a month < 1475925296 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :debian just closed a 10 years old bug of mine :P < 1475925343 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in xsok... which should not be a high priority for anybody) < 1475926351 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475927458 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudden epiphany: what if trump supporters are just huge fans of bpston legal? < 1475927476 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PART #esoteric : < 1475928499 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475929574 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475932511 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.90.8 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475934818 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475935767 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475936629 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.90.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475937650 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475937731 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475938627 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1475938870 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1475938983 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475939169 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475939500 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1475940588 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475941045 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475941076 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475941492 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYQB < 1475941492 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 081400Z 35003KT 30SM -SHRA BKN050 OVC090 14/12 A3000 RMK SC7AC1 SLP160 < 1475941901 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475942520 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello. FUNGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT! < 1475942758 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475943576 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-11-58.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475943658 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-161-143.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475943754 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475943755 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1475943756 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. < 1475943872 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! thanks! < 1475943875 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nostril! < 1475943875 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ah- he didn't convey that to me in a couple of useful drivers and it may crash because the whole reason fold exists. < 1475943882 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1475944453 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nostril < 1475944528 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1475944531 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is dead < 1475944581 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1475944606 0 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dun dun dun < 1475944722 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475945452 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475945894 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nostril < 1475945898 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nostril? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475946166 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1475946424 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475946707 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1475946737 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :im closer to canada than ive been in 3 years. where are the maples? < 1475946870 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boihly. quintophia. < 1475947241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`botsnack < 1475947242 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​>:-D < 1475947259 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^botsnack < 1475947259 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh nom nom nom! < 1475947265 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1475947266 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1475947367 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475947368 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475947428 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475947428 0 :Zarutian_!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475947428 0 :Zarutian_!?@? NICK :Zarutian < 1475947463 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mooooooo < 1475947524 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mooo < 1475947700 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.90.8 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475948357 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-161-143.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475948451 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-191-48.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475948469 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475949058 0 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475949076 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475949148 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1475949170 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes zzo38 < 1475949188 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: your tip for node.js sandboxing works absolutly perfectly. < 1475949203 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1475949225 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js Function.constructor.constructor("return process.exit()") < 1475949225 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :function anonymous() { | return process.exit() | } < 1475949225 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ obuf: '', | console: { log: [Function] }, | Buffer: [Function: Buffer], | EventEmitter: [Function: EventEmitter], | util: {}, | global: '[Circular]', | process: { exit: [Function] } } < 1475949231 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js Function.constructor.constructor("return process.exit()")() < 1475949231 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Error: process.exit() is not allowed' < 1475949251 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js Function.constructor.constructor("return process.getuid()")() < 1475949251 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :'TypeError: process.getuid is not a function' < 1475949257 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1475949266 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :moony < 1475949295 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: O, it does? OK < 1475949328 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what is your favorite part of canada < 1475949339 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: British Columbia, I suppose < 1475949358 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony: But you have Buffer and EventEmitter in there. < 1475949370 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: me and iovoid made it outselves < 1475949377 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are custom copies of them. < 1475949384 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the real ones. < 1475949396 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK then, it will work OK. < 1475949425 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( i'll have Nunavut ) < 1475949433 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many of NodeJS core things are wrappers < 1475949468 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: here is the SRC for the entirity of the little trick: http://pastebin.com/jU0MjyBd < 1475949482 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that file is just appended to the beginning of user input < 1475949501 0 :zzo38_!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1475949501 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1475949505 0 :zzo38_!?@? NICK :zzo38 < 1475949524 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the code available? < 1475949537 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the faked buffer? < 1475949539 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm going to be at canada tomorrow, so I wondered if zzo38 would have any thoughts on ontario < 1475949539 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/jU0MjyBd < 1475949571 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the code that runs the sandbox itself requires a working copy of the bot. i have a bundle avaliabkle for that (stripped down to only 2 plugins). < 1475949609 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need to run it < 1475949621 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill pastebin the base code. < 1475949624 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only wanted to see how it is implemented < 1475949662 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/Y617Nure < 1475949708 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have any recommendations, please tell me. < 1475949788 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475949909 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-191-48.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1475949936 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475949995 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Converting the output to a string inside of the sandbox (and guaranteeing that is a string) may work better; this can avoid evading the timeout. < 1475950008 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-201-1.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475950008 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm your right. < 1475950079 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 'out = new vm.Script(corescript+"(()=>{"+args.join(" ")+"})().toString()").runInContext(context, {timeout:2000,filename:"sandbox"});' better? < 1475950102 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-reload < 1475950103 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :An error occured while processing your command: TypeError: Can't add property 2, object is not extensible < 1475950216 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Quit: Caught SIGINT < 1475950253 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1475950257 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1475950261 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be more safe you might also want to check that the result actually is a string (depending on the implementation of bot.sendMsg, it might or might not be so important); the way you have it now anyways, the user script might make out.toString().replace(/(\r\n|\r|\n)/g, " | ").substr(0,500) into something other than a string, or into a string longer than 500 characters, or containing control characters. < 1475950435 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 QUIT :Quit: TRADE CHICKEN < 1475950672 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've moved string conversion inside. ill test for string next < 1475950736 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1475950738 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-reload < 1475950749 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1475950753 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-reload < 1475950753 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reloading modules... < 1475950756 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var a = 1+1; return a+1; < 1475950756 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1475950757 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ obuf: '', | console: { log: [Function] }, | Buffer: [Function: Buffer], | EventEmitter: [Function: EventEmitter], | util: {}, | global: '[Circular]', | process: { exit: [Function] } } < 1475950788 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-js var a = 1+1; a.toString = () => {return ()=>{}}; return a < 1475950788 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Output not a string! Canceling return output < 1475951119 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also thought about accessor properties, but it turns out that the sandbox mechanism already prevents accessor properties set on the global object of the sandbox from leaking, so there isn't a problem. < 1475951605 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1475951611 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph lots of logs missing today. < 1475951771 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1475952165 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475952172 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475952224 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :moony < 1475952954 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1475953431 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475954003 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-201-1.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475954135 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-5-178.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475954149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03BlueOkiris 5* 10New user account < 1475954181 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475955584 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475955596 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475956447 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49882&oldid=49880 5* 03BlueOkiris 5* (+241) 10/* Introductions */ < 1475956470 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07NOR14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49883 5* 03BlueOkiris 5* (+3092) 10Added description and example programs < 1475957186 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07NOR14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49884&oldid=49883 5* 03BlueOkiris 5* (+182) 10 < 1475957294 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cjtlkpscmujvtvif JOIN :#esoteric < 1475957297 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just spent 2 hours stacking wood < 1475957313 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job < 1475957329 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did a poor job and some of it fell ovr < 1475957537 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475957601 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Quit: Caught SIGINT < 1475957784 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475957910 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475958157 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 QUIT :Quit: SCANDINAVIAN CHICKEN < 1475959641 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475959676 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475959684 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lzgrhmabyjgugmvv JOIN :#esoteric < 1475960898 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1475961730 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:BlueOkiris14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49885 5* 03BlueOkiris 5* (+308) 10Created page with "Ive been programming since I was 8. I want to be an electrical/computer engineer because I love to build and create everything from robots to smart watches to programming lang..." < 1475962027 0 :S1!~s1feha@ip5f5ad616.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475962230 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49886&oldid=49845 5* 03BlueOkiris 5* (+10) 10/* N */ < 1475962421 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475963205 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475964068 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1475964107 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07NOR14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49887&oldid=49884 5* 03BlueOkiris 5* (+12) 10/* Description */ < 1475964443 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-essiifxtvrneqoth QUIT :Excess Flood < 1475964465 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475964488 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jtambqhhqyzzcvan JOIN :#esoteric < 1475964593 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1475964837 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1475964858 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475964913 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475965116 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to set multiple tab stops with vim? < 1475965130 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Rather than the same amount for all tab stops) < 1475965330 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475965340 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475965608 0 :moony!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475965676 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475965681 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't thnk it's possible < 1475966120 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I could find was a patch that never seems to have gotten anywhere: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/vim_dev/eNOQO06iRZQ < 1475966133 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though https://github.com/chrisbra/vim-mq-patches seems to have a up-to-dateish version. < 1475966421 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1475966835 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07NOR14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49888&oldid=49887 5* 03BlueOkiris 5* (+316) 10/* Turing Completeness */ < 1475967426 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07NOR14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49889&oldid=49888 5* 03BlueOkiris 5* (+376) 10/* Op Codes */ < 1475967574 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7hwu0y33odx5f.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1475967951 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1475968059 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jtambqhhqyzzcvan QUIT :Excess Flood < 1475968148 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-xmlajivsckojifvk JOIN :#esoteric < 1475968718 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the Italian word for a pitch bend (as in music)? < 1475968762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475968789 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07NOR14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49890&oldid=49889 5* 03BlueOkiris 5* (-147) 10 < 1475968793 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :modulatore? < 1475968813 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure, i don't music < 1475968816 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07NOR14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49891&oldid=49890 5* 03BlueOkiris 5* (+67) 10/* Turing Completeness */ < 1475968880 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how goes the calesyna or w/e plans < 1475968997 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-itkljhartfvhctoi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: portamento < 1475969064 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: OK < 1475969083 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I have plenty of plans, but haven't got that far in implementing them < 1475969102 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language I'm working on took me a couple of days before I thought it was likely to be TC < 1475969104 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I still haven't prooved it < 1475969106 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*proven < 1475969167 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( ais523 uses logic on english grammar. it is super ineffective. ) < 1475969229 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one problem with this language is that I pretty much need to write a syntax highlighter to have any clue how a program works < 1475969252 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and unlike other langauges with that property, like Whitespace, it doesn't work very well with existing syntax highlighting engines < 1475969258 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because any part of the program can affect how every other part is parsed < 1475969278 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the language specified anywhere? < 1475969282 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of new wiki accounts < 1475969290 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :☺ < 1475969304 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :,o0(Accidentially i the Grammar) < 1475969322 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: I'm not sure if it should be public before the competition closes < 1475969340 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I wasn't aware there's a competition < 1475969343 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is out of the loop < 1475969346 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're allowed to enter as a team, but because there's the possibility of a btc prize, forming a team seems like it might lead to potential arguments if we actually win < 1475969356 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: http://calesyta.xyz/en < 1475969384 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably I'm at the terminal phi node < 1475969410 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We value novel or interesting ideas in language design. No one cares about another variant of Brainf*ck. We are interested in exploring the language design space and mining its full potential." < 1475969425 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :these people clearly have some idea of how esolang design normally goes :-D < 1475969532 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1475969596 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1475970871 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475970978 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric