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00:15:59 <HackEgo> It is rumoured that Taneb invented civilization, but this is false. It was actually invented by Sid Meier, who also invented cities.
00:16:11 <oerjan> `slwd civilization//s/ //
00:16:13 <HackEgo> wisdom/civilization//It is rumoured that Taneb invented civilization, but this is false. It was actually invented by Sid Meier, who also invented cities.
00:17:05 <oerjan> alercah: `le/rn needs no space hth
00:17:21 <Sgeo_> My Prismata client isn't updatig
00:17:43 <oerjan> @tell alercah `le/rn needs no space hth
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00:18:11 <oerjan> @tell alercah um after the /
00:20:30 <oerjan> it took care of itself, i take.
00:21:59 <oerjan> . o O ( new HackEgo policy: 3 consecutive commands with syntax or formatting errors and you're out )
00:22:39 <oerjan> i've forgotten what it did
00:22:57 <ais523> it copied random lines from the past of the channel when pinged
00:23:02 <ais523> also placed them in the topic every now and then
00:23:06 <oerjan> except that was, somehow, an abbreviation for oerjan's terrible pun.
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00:25:57 <Cale> Sgeo_: Try shift-refresh?
00:28:00 <Sgeo_> How does that work on the desktop version?
00:28:29 <Sgeo_> shachaf, I did something dumb in the campaign: I clicked "overrun defenders" without realizing that it was effectively the same as just the normal turn end thing
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00:29:13 <shachaf> Overrun defenders is also the same as clicking on any defender, I think.
00:29:23 <Sgeo_> shachaf, I effectively forgot to take a turn because the wording on the button confused me
00:29:24 <shachaf> You can always undo it, as long as you don't commit.
00:29:48 <oerjan> ais523: at least now the topic contains a terrible oerjan pun hth
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00:45:27 <quintopia> what exactly is the syntax for slwd? is it wisdomname//sedcommand?
00:48:07 <oerjan> shachaf: radicals has two meanings hth
00:48:36 <shachaf> doesn't the pun only work without the hyphen-minus
00:48:56 <oerjan> not sure which is best, really
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01:13:49 <oerjan> you simply don't understand puns, do you?
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01:14:24 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Though, you should've seen the numberpun exchange yesterday
01:15:32 <myname> .oO(dontaskdontaskdontask)
01:16:06 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: also, omega-1 is not an ordinal hth
01:16:15 <oerjan> it's a surreal number, at least.
01:19:15 <oerjan> my nearly unsupported guess is that omega/2 would be the number for { 1,2,3,... | omega-1, omega-2, ... }
01:20:10 <oerjan> i suppose one could prove that by adding it to itself...
01:21:18 <oerjan> if my brain felt like it. i once half understood surreal addition, anyway.
01:23:10 <oerjan> hm i seem to be just getting to the exchange.
01:29:19 <oerjan> shachaf: i see you and hppavilion[1] were greatly confused by the `revert bug again.
01:29:44 <oerjan> i'll leave it to fizzie to explain what actually happened there O_O
01:30:23 <fizzie> I didn't see it, it didn't happen.
01:30:23 <oerjan> shachaf: well you accidentally `revert'ed a file creation, and `before did weird stuff
01:30:37 <oerjan> and none of this seemed to have any effect in the repository, anyway.
01:30:44 <oerjan> `cwlprits civilization
01:30:45 <shachaf> confusion is a state of mind hth
01:30:56 <shachaf> i may have been wrong, but i don't think i was confused
01:31:35 <oerjan> good, good. but you certainly managed to confuse hppavilion[1]. and accidentally prevent him from fixing `? civilization before i did
01:31:43 <shachaf> oerjan: Oh, I remember now.
01:31:52 <shachaf> This was the thing where hpp didn't actually do a bot command.
01:32:57 <oerjan> yes but right after the broken double `revert, hppavilion[1] did `slwd civilization//s/^ // and it failed because of a mismatch between repo and file, i think.
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01:42:08 <oerjan> fizzie: is there any particular reason not to just add -r to line 9 of https://github.com/GregorR/hackbot/blob/master/multibot_cmds/lib/revert ?
01:43:15 <fizzie> oerjan: I think we should instead add -C to line 7.
01:43:32 <oerjan> ok no idea what that does.
01:43:41 <fizzie> ("-C --no-backup -- Modified files are saved with a .orig suffix before reverting. To disable these backups, use --no-backup.")
01:44:38 <fizzie> Well, that and removing the find-rm completely, I mean.
01:44:41 <oerjan> (does `revert do thread locking btw)
01:45:40 <fizzie> Ye.. well, sorta-kinda-sorta. It uses the same transact() function as running commands in general.
01:45:49 <oerjan> of course there's still that fishy thing with empty files
01:46:05 <fizzie> So it will actually use the same double-run protocol.
01:47:27 <oerjan> which leaves the question of why `revert fails to delete empty files when `rm succeeds...
01:47:42 <oerjan> s/empty files/previously nonexisting/
01:47:59 <shachaf> can you please fix the canary revert issue while you're at it twh
01:48:09 <oerjan> shachaf: that's the thing this is about
01:48:22 <oerjan> but also the file removal.
01:49:28 <fizzie> oerjan: I think that's just an artefact of hg revert. Reverting to a version where the file didn't exist probably leaves the file in the working copy alone.
01:50:53 <fizzie> I'm not entirely sure about that, I would need to do some testing. It might even be a result of the double-running.
01:51:36 <oerjan> i sort of thought all this trouble started at that time, so...
01:52:44 <HackEgo> cat: test: No such file or directory
01:53:14 <oerjan> `` cat test >>tmp/test; rm test
01:53:33 <oerjan> hm nothing fishy there
01:55:05 <fizzie> Yeah, 'test' is restored to pristine condition before the second time that runs.
01:55:31 <oerjan> so i don't see why `revert should be different if it actually tries to remove it.
01:55:44 <fizzie> Because it uses an entirely different hg command.
01:56:09 <fizzie> The repository restoring is done by using 'hg update' in a mode where it discards all working copy changes.
01:56:44 <oerjan> any particular reason not to use that, then?
01:57:19 <fizzie> That can't be used for revert, because it also updates the working copy's parent, i.e. hg's idea of which revision is checked out.
01:58:33 <fizzie> I'd be more comfortable in messing around with this if it had been built on top of git.
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02:03:48 <oerjan> fizzie: your idea for fixing canary sounds harmless enough though.
02:05:19 <hppavilion[1]> fizzie: But given computers, this means we should nuke it from orbit
02:05:49 <fizzie> oerjan: I will try to remember to try it out over the weekend (I made a local hackbot setup for the last fix), and maybe prepare a PR if it seems to be working.
02:05:53 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
02:06:59 <fizzie> FWIW, there's an actual hg command, 'hg backout', for doing what `revert is doing (recording a new change to undo something), but as far as I know, it only does single changesets at a time, while `revert N should go all the way back to there.
02:08:40 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: an ordinal number represents an order isomorphism class of well ordered sets. it is common to choose the particular representative known as the "von Neumann ordinal".
02:15:27 <fizzie> I think `revert on git could be done with a git reset --hard <commit-to-go-back-to>; git clean -f -d; git reset --soft 'HEAD@{1}'; git commit which is probably an argument in the git/hg debate, but I'm not sure which way.
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02:53:39 <hppavilion[1]> `le/rn xkcd/xkcd ([kskkkd]) is a webcomic that updates every M/W/F.
02:53:41 <HackEgo> Learned 'xkcd': xkcd ([kskkkd]) is a webcomic that updates every M/W/F.
02:54:38 <oerjan> there's a new xkcd whatif this week btw
02:56:41 <Phantom_Hoover> yes hppavilion[1] thank you for explaining why i am right
02:57:18 <HackEgo> wisdom/xkcd//xkcd ([kskkd]) is a webcomic that updates every M/W/F.
03:02:12 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: that does not count as a lie hth
03:09:14 <FreeFull> What if we fill the death valley with fireflies?
03:09:16 <hppavilion[1]> 29723993099695944560624711859015281829134680965363463334727603027
03:09:54 <hppavilion[1]> FreeFull: Then they'll catch the baseball traveling through a straw hth
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03:10:43 <FreeFull> What if we swap mariana trench with death valley?
03:12:36 <pikhq> Gigadeath valley, and the fusion of the Pacific and Mariana plates?
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03:17:58 <quintopia> i think i must have missed the pbflist ping for the 9/28 one.
03:18:02 <hppavilion[1]> Under http://xkcd.com/1442/, the elements of Dark Matter are written in cursive script
03:18:05 <quintopia> much better than the one before it
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03:21:59 <quintopia> oh wait...maybe not--it doesn't appear in my logs
03:23:57 <oerjan> `` grep -rl 'fibonacci' wisdom/
03:23:58 <HackEgo> grep: wisdom/: No such file or directory
03:24:19 <HackEgo> [U+0077 LATIN SMALL LETTER W] [U+0069 LATIN SMALL LETTER I] [U+0073 LATIN SMALL LETTER S] [U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D] [U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+006D LATIN SMALL LETTER M] [U+002F SOLIDUS]
03:24:23 <quintopia> well, i can't find it in the tunes logs either, so...
03:24:32 <HackEgo> pbflist: shachaf Sgeo quintopia ion b_jonas
03:24:45 <quintopia> appy polly loggies to whomever's seen it
03:24:48 <oerjan> `` grep -rl 'fibonacci' wisdom/
03:25:03 <oerjan> `` grep -rl 'fibonacci' wisdom/
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03:25:35 <oerjan> `` cat -v <<<"`` grep -rl 'fibonacci' wisdom/"
03:25:36 <HackEgo> grep -rl 'fibonacci' wisdom/
03:26:02 <oerjan> `` grep -rl 'fibonacci' wisdom/
03:46:52 <HackEgo> Your venerated itymologist gracious octoberlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it.
03:53:10 <oerjan> `addquote <hppavilion[1]> I have just learned about "SMASH FACE ON KEYBOARD; POST RESULTS". --- quit: hppavilion[1] (Quit: Leaving) --- join: hppavilion[1] [...] joined #esoteric <hppavilion[1]> ...that was the result, apparently <hppavilion[1]> Dammit, f4
03:53:12 <HackEgo> 1294) <hppavilion[1]> I have just learned about "SMASH FACE ON KEYBOARD; POST RESULTS". --- quit: hppavilion[1] (Quit: Leaving) --- join: hppavilion[1] [...] joined #esoteric <hppavilion[1]> ...that was the result, apparently <hppavilion[1]> Dammit, f4
04:22:02 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: I think it'd be funnier if you removed "<hppavilion[1]> ...that was the result, apparently"
04:23:29 <oerjan> i thought that seemed unclear.
04:26:27 <hppavilion[1]> (The study of etymographs, not to be confused with grapho- etymology, the study of historical forms of graphemes, which is more fun)
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04:32:19 <quintopia> i just realized what a great pun unionizing radicals was (the first time i read it as un-ionizing without realizing there was another way to read it)
04:33:15 <oerjan> (i guess that means shachaf was right about removing the hyphen)
04:33:55 <shachaf> are you among the unionizing radicals
04:34:38 <oerjan> i'm neither positive nor negative about that
04:35:21 <shachaf> s#gracious#unionized radical#
04:35:38 <oerjan> weren't you going to shorten it
04:48:48 <hppavilion[1]> "Oh no! I used a slash when I should've used two!"
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04:50:45 <hppavilion[1]> Hm, if English were to adopt [x], I have a feeling we'd give it the digraph <kh>
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04:52:11 <pikhq> hppavilion[1]: Either that, or the digraph "ch" and we'd accept the resulting confusion.
04:56:49 <HackEgo> 2016-09-25 <fizzïe> revert 58b9ee8f97a7 \ 2016-09-25 <jeffl3̈5> ` rm --no-preserve-root -rfv / # testing, plz no ban \ 2015-06-21 <tsweẗt> revert \ 2015-06-21 <tsweẗt> rm bin -r \ 2014-04-15 <fizzïe> mv data/8ballreplies share/; sed -i -e \'s/data/share/\' bin/8*ball; rmdir data # going to hit some empty-directory problem again, I\'m sure
04:56:57 <HackEgo> 2016-09-25 <fizzïe> revert 58b9ee8f97a7 \ 2016-09-25 <jeffl3̈5> ` rm --no-preserve-root -rfv / # testing, plz no ban \ 2015-06-21 <tsweẗt> revert \ 2015-06-21 <tsweẗt> rm bin -r \ 2014-04-15 <fizzïe> mv data/8ballreplies share/; sed -i -e \'s/data/share/\' bin/8*ball; rmdir data # going to hit some empty-directory problem again, I\'m sure
04:57:15 <oerjan> `` ls -l bin/8{,-}ball
04:57:16 <HackEgo> -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 39 Sep 25 20:31 bin/8ball \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 39 Sep 25 20:31 bin/8-ball
04:59:02 <oerjan> i think "ch" has already been loched-in
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05:12:29 <pikhq> Though, it's not as though English has been content to restrict phonemes to have *unique* spellings.
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05:19:13 <HackEgo> Dhana: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
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05:36:00 <izalove> https://github.com/facebook/folly/blob/master/folly/docs/small_vector.md
05:36:23 <izalove> why should i use small_vector<int, 256, NoHeap> v; instead of int v[256]?
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05:40:41 <izalove> same for small_vector<int, 256, NoHeap, uint16_t> v; instead of int16_t v[256]
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06:57:53 <HackEgo> copumpkin is categorically incapable of being president.
06:59:17 <pikhq> Is copumpkin a member of the set "natural-born US citizen"?
07:00:44 <shachaf> certainly copumpkin is an element of a set isomorphic to that set
07:08:12 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Elronnd]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50028&oldid=46989 * Elronnd * (+59) new esolang
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08:04:51 <hppavilion[1]> pikhq: I can't imagine us letting [ch] make that sound
08:08:16 <hppavilion[1]> Now, how we'd do [ɣ] ([ɣ]:[x]::[g]:[k]; ɣ is the voiced velar fricative to [x]'s voiceless velar fricative) is another story entirely
08:12:00 <hppavilion[1]> We could do [ɣ] as <gh> by analogy to [x] being <kh>, but that results in confusion when you want to write <enough>; if we DID do that we could write [ɦ] as <hgh> or <ghh>, but that'd be a little weird
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08:38:51 <hppavilion[1]> Aaaaand I just learned about the possibility of vacuum decay
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08:49:24 <hppavilion[1]> I wonder if the suicide hotline ever says "you know, you make a good point. Go ahead."
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11:20:44 <hppavilion[1]> My sister and I are reading this weird book we found in a field full of codes
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11:34:11 <hppavilion[1]> Now I just need to write a program to decrypt efficiently
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12:10:06 <hppavilion[1]> I just realized if you have a long string of 'a's in Viginere message, you get the password
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12:19:29 <lambdabot> ais523 said 22h 28m 6s ago: in Asimov's robot series, only two humanoid robots were ever built; Jander was one of them, but is only seen in the past tense because he already was "dead" (i.e.
12:19:29 <lambdabot> permanently incapable of functioning) at the point at which he's introduced to the story
12:21:38 <myname> wikipedia is in fault for redirecting mobile browsers
12:21:54 <myname> you cannot expect everybody to clean every link they send to you
12:23:56 <hppavilion[1]> It's an UNREASONABLE expectation, but I can have it.
12:24:08 * boily mapoles some sanity into hppavilion[1]
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12:24:18 <myname> well yeah, as you expect other people to learn your crazy language
12:25:08 <myname> of all the big sites i know twitter and wikipedia are the only ones that have a subdomain for mobile browsers that annoy desktop users
12:25:23 <myname> even though i son't get what's wrong with the mobile wikipedia view
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12:35:36 <boily> `le/rn xkcd ([ɪkskɑsede]) is a webcomic that updates every M/W/F.
12:35:43 <HackEgo> Learned 'xkcd ([ɪkskɑsede]) is a webcomic that updates every m': W/F.
12:36:04 <HackEgo> rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
12:36:07 <boily> `learn xkcd ([ɪkskɑsede]) is a webcomic that updates every M/W/F.
12:36:09 <HackEgo> Relearned 'xkcd': xkcd ([ɪkskɑsede]) is a webcomic that updates every M/W/F.
12:36:22 <boily> mynamello. I mixed up the learns hth
12:47:29 <boily> `` sed -i 's/peer gynt/Peer Gynt/' wisdom/peer
12:47:39 <boily> `` sed -i 's/\. h/. H/' wisdom/peer
13:10:43 <lambdabot> CYUL 221200Z 30009KT 10SM -RA BKN012 OVC020 07/07 A2947 RMK SF7SC1 SLP982
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13:41:54 <quintopia> boily sure is up early on a saturday
13:42:14 <quintopia> i wouldnt be if i didnt have to work
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13:58:21 <Zarutian> „Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man stupid and blind in the eyes“
14:11:22 <quintopia> it makes miss out on all the fun that happens at night
14:11:42 <quintopia> but he'll surely be productive and healthy
14:19:56 <Zarutian> early being like 5:30 PM and AM relative to local day-night cycle respectively.
14:51:27 <quintopia> im thinking more like sunset to 8 hours after sunset. or 8 hours before sunrise to sunrise
14:58:55 <FreeFull> You can go to sleep early, wake up in the middle of the night, do some stuff, and then go back to sleep
14:59:40 <FreeFull> That's what people used to do in Europe during winter (longer nights) before gas (and then electric) lighting was a widespread thing
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16:53:40 <izalove> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/X86_Assembly/Control_Flow why is it wrong to load an address into eip with a mov?
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16:57:00 <int-e> I'm not sure about "wrong"... pretty sure there is no such instruction.
16:57:25 <int-e> 8086 had a pop cs though, which is quite funny
16:59:17 <int-e> (CS is the code segment; the current instruction is addressed by CS:IP, so address (CS*16+IP) mod 2^20 on 8086)
16:59:56 <izalove> not familiar with CS:IP, did you mean CS:GO?
17:00:56 <int-e> presumably it would be funny if I knew what CS:GO is.
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17:01:43 <int-e> So what about this new Pokemon:GO...
17:02:07 <Zarutian_> x86 (and its 64 bit variant) is a damn shittily designed ISA in so many ways
17:02:55 <int-e> meh orthogonality is seriously overrated
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17:03:15 <fizzie> At least x86-64 can sort of do the opposite with lea rax, [rip] (or however your assembler wants that written).
17:03:20 <Zarutian> int-e: I am not only talking about orthogonality but more like the dreath of the register file
17:03:36 <fizzie> Incidentally, arm64 no longer allows you to treat the PC as a GPR either.
17:04:24 <int-e> 16 registers seems fine... 8 was a bit tight.
17:04:26 <Zarutian> and the instruction decoding on x86 is slow slow slow.
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17:06:13 <fizzie> AArch64 also removes the "most instructions can be conditional" thing, and only pretty much just leaves branches like that.
17:06:19 <Zarutian> which is why it needs so long pipelining which in turn penalizes branch heavy code.
17:06:38 <int-e> also if you care about context switch time you want your register set to be small... not that x86 is doing a good job in that regard...
17:07:24 <Zarutian> int-e: 16-64 registers is alright (I am not only counting GP but stuff like Address Space Name etc)
17:08:06 <Zarutian> int-e: hardware walked page table. Most idotic thing I have seen in MMU design (well after segmentation that is)
17:08:55 <Zarutian> int-e: TranslationLookasideBuffer that causes an fast interrupt to priviledged|kernel code for page in servicing is much simpler.
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17:17:10 <int-e> Hmm, so it is 1986 and you're designing a CPU with 20ish MHz... and you need to add paging... would you really do it in software? That'll cost you a lot of cycles.
17:17:51 <int-e> The rest is just backward compatibility.
17:20:53 <Zarutian> int-e: lot of cycles? maybe two or three cycles to swich from user to kernel, around twenty to change the mapping and what ever it takes for IO to and from disk. (The latter can be done while another task|process is being run making a page fault also a task switch if you like)
17:21:07 <Zarutian> int-e: but yeah on the x86 it costs lots and lots of cycles
17:22:30 <int-e> I thought we were talking about the case where a page was already mapped but not in the tlb.
17:24:04 <Zarutian> then it only takes less that hundred cycles, if written properly
17:24:49 <Zarutian> this is why you want your TLB to be rather big, at least 1024-4096 entries.
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17:30:42 <int-e> my point was that when the hardware pagetable walking was put into the CPU, memory access was fast (because CPUs were slow), something like 2 cycles; doing 3 memory accesses in hardware would be much faster than executing a dozen instructions (which would have to be fetched from memory as well.. caches were only added in i486, as I recall)
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17:51:52 <Zarutian> but now its is the other way around and I never understood why hardware pagetable walking wasnt dropped then.
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17:58:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50029&oldid=50013 * Mr. Vegetables * (+195)
17:59:08 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Emmental]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50030&oldid=49740 * Mr. Vegetables * (+70) /* Implementations */
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20:05:18 <ybden> shouldn't have enabled overcommit
20:06:52 <\oren\> argh. why do some people not understand the concept of repairing things
20:07:33 <\oren\> trying to throw out chairs when I can fix them easily with hotglue, nails, and a big hammer
20:07:51 <wob_jonas> \oren\: because modern cars are an unrepairable black box, not like the ones we had when I was young
20:08:36 <\oren\> wob_jonas: but... these are just wooden friggin chairs, medival level technology.
20:09:14 <myname> burn them til they're repaired!
20:09:56 <\oren\> then again, the person in question also can't figure out how to top off the wind shield wiper fluid
20:10:22 <\oren\> I don't even know how to drive, and I figured t out
20:11:44 <wob_jonas> Is he from like a desert where it never rains?
20:33:17 <Zarutian> wob_jonas: the question is does that person drive without endangering others.
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21:23:39 <\oren\> Zarutian: well, his driving skills are impeccable
21:23:53 <\oren\> he just can't do any kind of mechanical... anything
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22:06:09 <moony> Zarutian, my entry is 'moon'
22:06:13 <HackEgo> Moon is a murderous lunatic, not an unretroreflectorey object. He sometimes causes overmoonification.
22:06:34 <moony> Zarutian, for oerjan, see `? oerjan
22:06:45 <moony> for anyone else, good luck ^_^
22:06:54 <Zarutian> moony: btw do you have an idiotic wolf-clone called moon moon?
22:07:09 <HackEgo> slough//slough /slaʊ/ or /sluː/ means a marsh; slough /slʌf/ means skin thrown off a reptile
22:08:33 <moony> Zarutian, maybe :)
22:11:07 <moony> Zarutian, course i did, i got it all the time on [FORUM_NAME]! :P
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22:20:40 <boily> can Taneb tanebvent styrofoam?
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22:24:04 <Zarutian> http://www.cap-lore.com/Economics/DSR/ seems like a good topic to talk about
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22:25:32 <HackEgo> segmentation fault? ¯\(°_o)/¯
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22:27:37 <Zarutian> `le/rn segmentation fault/ The segmentation fault can be found just of the Silicon Valley and is known to produce various hiccups at the most inconvienent times.
22:27:40 <HackEgo> Learned 'segmentation fault': The segmentation fault can be found just of the Silicon Valley and is known to produce various hiccups at the most inconvienent times.
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22:28:16 <Zarutian> iovoid: is that iov-oid or io-void?
22:29:30 <Zarutian> looks like an owl with headphones
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22:29:57 <iovoid> When *whatever* asks for name and I dont want to put real things I use "Io Void"
22:30:06 <wob_jonas> you know, ovoid is a crazy adjective that probably means like egg-shaped or related to a sheep or something
22:30:23 * iovoid is not releated to a sheep nor a egg
22:30:28 <otherbot> ovoid | An egg-shaped curve. Lockwood calls the negative pedal curve of an ellipse with eccentricity e<=1/2 an ovoid. | Burleigh's oval | oval | general plane curves | 14H50 | egg | 1 egg |
22:31:00 <HackEgo> rev: racecar: open failed: No such file or directory
22:31:06 <Zarutian> iovoid: I managed to confuse an DBA by setting "Last name" in an first name field and "First name" in the last name. (Btw why do so many programmer insist of spliting names this way?)
22:31:13 <HackEgo> /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: racecar: No such file or directory
22:31:20 <HackEgo> /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: echo: No such file or directory
22:31:28 <HackEgo> /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: `rev < (echo "racecar")'
22:31:38 <otherbot> StringReverse[racecar | (string)] | racecar |
22:31:57 <iovoid> I still wonder who in the world was mad enought to make "NodeOS"
22:32:14 * Zarutian notes "alsírhrísla" as an example of this.
22:32:16 <iovoid> (or the weird idea of jskernel)
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22:33:05 -!- segfault has set topic: staph.
22:33:38 -!- segfault has set topic: There is currently an esolang contest: http://calesyta.xyz/en/ | Warning: This channel may contain traces of unionizing radicals | The international hub of esoteric pizza discussion and development | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf.
22:33:55 <Zarutian> /topic orignal topic lost... but found again
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22:34:28 <iovoid> Well, now we all know where you live :)
22:34:34 * Zarutian looks for old goats.cx gif to inflict upon GlutrOn
22:34:53 <otherbot> segfault: No such group, use list
22:34:57 <otherbot> segfault: trackstats track savetrackdb nick2host timport fixtrackdb trackinfo
22:34:58 <iovoid> -track #esoteric,##powder-bots
22:35:17 <segfault> -trackstarts fla34-2-78-193-39-30.fbxo.proxad.net
22:35:22 <segfault> -trackstats fla34-2-78-193-39-30.fbxo.proxad.net
22:35:23 <otherbot> Found host fla34-2-78-193-39-30.fbxo.proxad.net | Nicks: GlutrOn | Idents: ~xx | Accounts: | Realnames: realname
22:35:41 <iovoid> should trackinfo include GeoIP too?
22:36:08 <segfault> GlutrOn, pls see revived topic
22:36:14 <Zarutian> iovoid: down to the submicron! (possible with IPv6, no?)
22:36:36 <iovoid> Well, GeoIP and IPv6 is...
22:36:48 -!- segfault has set topic: Glutr0n nearly lost the topic! | Warning: This channel may contain traces of unionizing radicals | The international hub of esoteric pizza discussion and development | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf.
22:36:54 <iovoid> I dont think there are many of those DBs
22:37:11 <Zarutian> the MaxiMind one is really reliable /s
22:38:53 <GlutrOn> as i'm not a pizza's guru i let you in the zen space of tomato ketchup! ByE
22:39:05 <wob_jonas> The international hub of esoteric pizza discussion and development | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | News: esolang contest at http://calesyta.xyz/en/ | Glutr0n nearly lost the topic!
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22:40:28 <Zarutian> `le/rn chargeback/ The backside of an Coloumb.
22:40:30 <HackEgo> Learned 'chargeback': The backside of an Coloumb.
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22:42:47 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: and what do you think about that issue?
22:45:23 <Zarutian> what did the fembot say to the masbot when the latter got naked?
22:46:03 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: the issue of issues
22:46:23 <hppavilion[1]> hppavilion[1]: The first message I saw was "<Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: and what do you think about that issue?"
22:46:34 * Zarutian continues with the joke: "I can see your nuts"
22:46:52 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: You DO realize IRC doesn't tell you what happened before you joined, right?
22:47:29 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: I know. Also know that this is a tradition as old as IRC. To ask a new joiner something they cant possibly know
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22:49:21 * Zarutian comes up with another ending: "Is that thing electrical or pnumatic?"
22:50:11 * iovoid goes look at calesyta thing
22:51:05 <HackEgo> b//B is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're even worse than the BBC and drop strange letters altogether.
22:51:23 <HackEgo> isomorphism//isomorphism is isomorphic to Phantom_Hoover up to isomorphism.
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22:51:43 <HackEgo> fisdom//fisdom is the domination by the federal inspection station.
22:51:49 <HackEgo> sled//`sled <filename>//<sed script>
22:51:58 <HackEgo> minpoijjikop//Minpoijjikop bfjoustioppl sdardqwcasf uyvjhyb mipjkpmo.
22:53:14 <HackEgo> sand//Sand is what microprocessors are made of. Taneb invented it.
22:53:58 <Zarutian> aah, Sand yes, the S operator applied to and then used heavily
22:54:27 <segfault> grey//Grey is a common misspelling of Gey
22:54:37 <segfault> we have 'gay' jokes in hackego. your kidding m
22:55:02 <Zarutian> segfault: what is wrong with just joyfull jokes, eh?
22:55:05 <wob_jonas> Zarutian: no, the sand ones are RAM-based, not functional
22:55:14 <Zarutian> segfault: people might think you are against merriment
22:57:37 <segfault> Earth+Water==Mud. Mud+Fire=sandstone. Sandstone+air==Sand.
22:58:12 <segfault> highlight this. spoiler alert!
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23:06:47 <wob_jonas> Was http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=448 before or after Jeph started to live from QC?
23:06:49 <Zarutian> no'ing on da telly and I am sore need o' 'nterment', so
23:07:46 <zzo38> How much level do you think will be a Dungeons&Dragons spell that can make any people in the area to blink during its duration (but not affecting combat)?
23:09:10 <Zarutian> zzo38: the 'show them your erotic stamp collection' kind of spell?
23:09:38 <zzo38> I do not understand. What has erotic stamp collecting to do with it?
23:09:39 * segfault facedesks from Zarutian's last msg
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23:10:00 <wob_jonas> zzo38: um, blink their eyes from like a flash of light? just cast Dancing Lights and create the lights right in front of the people's faces.
23:10:43 <zzo38> No. I mean force group of people to blink even if they are creatures that do not normally blink in bright light or are blind or whatever
23:10:58 <zzo38> And without creating flashes of light
23:11:33 <zzo38> Yes, as long as they have eyelids
23:11:42 <wob_jonas> so like a wind spell or a spell that summons bugs you direct to their faces?
23:12:17 <wob_jonas> hmm, but they'd have work even if they're wearing protective goggles. bugs can't do that.
23:12:29 <wob_jonas> I mean, if they're both blind and wearing protective goggles
23:14:06 <Zarutian> segfault: oh, that. It is colliqually called "Pixie Porn" by some.
23:14:08 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: The erotic stamp collection is because it's such a weird thing for somebody to have
23:14:45 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: and you think dungeon crawling with a ten foot pole is normal?
23:15:41 <hppavilion[1]> And I'm trying to figure out if Alice and Bob (technically Bill, but Bill is a stupid name) are supposed to be porking...
23:15:55 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: can they be applied to geometry? I ask because there are some people in the market for surreal estate.
23:16:19 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: Depends on what kind of geometry you're doing; are coordinates allowed?
23:17:17 <hppavilion[1]> wob_jonas: Have you actually read the book? I'm unsure if this is a joke
23:17:25 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: I am not telling about the kidding part. But yeah coordnates are allowed.
23:17:39 <wob_jonas> I have read the book in translation lon ago
23:17:44 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: No, the kidding is directed at wob_jonas
23:17:53 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: Then you can probably use surreal numbers
23:18:19 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: But to be clear, the thing that makes surreal numbers surreal is the use of infinities and infinitesimals and infinity^infinity and such
23:18:57 <hppavilion[1]> Under MWI quantum physics, how many universes are there? (in terms of magnitude, not an exact number)
23:18:59 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: sounds like an description of the floor plan of the Hilbert Hotel then
23:19:53 <wob_jonas> Zarutian: no no no. Hilbert's hotel just has a large set of rooms
23:20:07 <hppavilion[1]> You know, I'd actually like to see schematics for it
23:20:09 <wob_jonas> Zarutian: I think you don't understand how surreal numbers work
23:20:19 <hppavilion[1]> wob_jonas: Yes, but presumably they were arranged in a form
23:20:29 <Zarutian> wob_jonas: but are the carpets on the hallways serpenski patterned?
23:22:15 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: Strictly, the hallways are modeled to look like a cuboidal Menger sponge from the inside, when you remove all but the outer layer
23:22:23 <zzo38> I know some stuff about surreal numbers
23:22:44 <hppavilion[1]> Economically, what would be the pricing on the Hilbert hotel?
23:23:19 <hppavilion[1]> By supply and demand, there are infinite rooms, so it should be all but free
23:23:56 <Zarutian> so by that logic the price per room is infintly infesitesimal
23:23:59 <segfault> what is the derivative of ln(2)^e dx?
23:24:20 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: But presumably- for it to meet standards- the rooms have to be kept clean & up to code
23:24:32 <myname> if everybody pays any positive amount, hilbert has an infinite amount of money
23:24:39 <zzo38> You can specify the number according to one set of surreal numbers which are less than this number and one set of surreal numbers which are greater than this number, and then apply rules for addition and so on. Positive numbers means you win, negative numbers means opponent win, zero means the nonactive player wins, and numbers that are neither positive, negative, nor zero, indiciates that the active player wins, is I think how it is worked
23:25:13 <hppavilion[1]> I mean, it's related to Game Theory, but we usually don't talk about that part
23:25:18 <segfault> -wolf "maybe this could help this debate/argument/etc"
23:25:22 <hppavilion[1]> And you can't have any not clean, even if nobody's in them
23:25:35 <segfault> -wolf "maybe this could help this debate/argument/etc"+"!"
23:25:45 <hppavilion[1]> So you need infinitely many housekeepers to clean all the rooms
23:26:02 <otherbot> integral infinity dx = x infinity+constant | infinity+constant |
23:26:05 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: but where would there housekeepers sleep?
23:26:33 <segfault> in infinitly many rooms? but that makes more rooms to clean!
23:27:23 <zzo38> I thought that if the room number are one, two, three, four, etc and if each one cost however much money is the room number then you will have -1/12 amount of money in total.
23:27:29 <hppavilion[1]> Now, the Hilbert Hotel was built on the site of the Blackwood estate
23:28:04 <zzo38> O, and how much the site of Blackwood estate cost?
23:28:11 <wob_jonas> zzo38: no you won't because people won't fill all the rooms. they'll all ask for cheaper rooms, so eventually you'll only have a finite amount of money
23:29:14 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38: (The Blackwood Estate is a fictional place in the also-fictional US state of Franklin, which is used in property & inheritance law homework problems in law school. hth.)
23:29:21 <myname> also, everybody would hate the new customer
23:29:22 <zzo38> wob_jonas: Yes, that is how you are going to earn money; you are going to ensure that everyone ask for cheaper rooms.
23:29:45 <zzo38> And therefore it will be a positive amount in total.
23:30:15 <hppavilion[1]> So, housekeepers alone require that you spend $8 per housekeeper
23:30:42 <myname> there is no need for housekeepers
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23:30:48 <myname> just don't reuse rooms
23:31:10 <hppavilion[1]> myname: No, even if the rooms aren't reused you legally have to keep them in a state where they COULD be used
23:31:25 <wob_jonas> hpp: but surely not all the rooms are in Franklin. you just employ the housekeepers in an infinity of different states with cheaper and cheaper minimum wage
23:31:35 <myname> how do you know where hilbert opened his hotel?
23:31:54 <wob_jonas> oh no, the cow puns are starting again!
23:32:01 <Zarutian> say, just to ask about real world hotels for a second: isnt anything above 20 bucks for a zero star hotel room per night basically a ripoff?
23:32:35 <hppavilion[1]> Not by statute law, but because it was determined in King v. State of Franklin that people cannot be moved out of their room when a vacant room is available
23:32:38 <myname> hppavilion[1]: also, if anybody wants to check if there are rooms that cannot be used, the chance of him taking any room that couldn't is practically zero
23:32:53 <Zarutian> wob_jonas: NYC and San Fran Sisko for example.
23:34:28 * hppavilion[1] . o O ( Dammit, should've made it a civil case of King v. Bayes because even if p=0, it can still happen )
23:35:32 * hppavilion[1] . o O ( Or maybe a civil forfeiture case... THOSE are fun )
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23:36:10 <segfault> hppavilion[1], nice hostlist :L
23:36:55 <segfault> jeffl35 and iovoid wrote the tracking module *gets it disclosed and classified by the NSA*
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23:37:08 <Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: what is the judgement on HARAs (Hostile Asset Recovery Action). Basically what someone does against a warlord to stuff they 'seized' in their 'country'.
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23:38:40 <otherbot> Hosts matching jeffool: 216-67-74-235-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net
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23:38:59 <segfault> -wolf geoip 216-67-74-235-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net
23:39:01 <oerjan> i'm pretty sure i moved it to the front once before.
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23:39:25 <fizzie> oerjan: I saw it in the front.
23:39:55 <oerjan> fizzie: well sure, i mean that this is the second time i move it there
23:39:57 <segfault> glutr0n replaced the topic with 'Hi!' earlier. may have not fully copied it all back
23:40:35 <oerjan> it seems to have everything except my awful pun from yesterday
23:40:42 <wob_jonas> News: speed eating contest at http://calesyta.xyz/en/ | The intraplanetary hub of esoteric font design: http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Glutr0n nearly lost the topic!
23:40:48 <oerjan> which is probably expired anyway
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23:41:26 <oerjan> wob_jonas: that piece of information is of a kind that should be accurate hth
23:41:27 -!- segfault has set topic: BREAKING NEWS: speed eating contest at http://calesyta.xyz/en/ | The intraplanetary hub of esoteric font design: http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Glutr0n nearly lost the topic!.
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23:41:43 <oerjan> am i going to have to add +t again
23:42:03 <Zarutian> segfault: NON-BREAKING NEWS, whould have fit better
23:42:10 <wob_jonas> News: speed dating contest at http://calesyta.xyz/en/
23:42:19 <Phantom_Hoover> +t is anathema to the values upon which #esoteric was founded
23:42:41 -!- segfault has changed nick to News.
23:42:44 <Zarutian> ossified topics are the bane of many chanels
23:43:20 <Zarutian> News: and what about the Faux one?
23:43:28 <News> wob_jonas: yuping
23:44:25 * News : Segfault has Disappeared!
23:44:26 <oerjan> Zarutian> hppavilion[1]: what is the judgement on HARAs (Hostile Asset Recovery Action). <-- someone should make an international treaty forbidding euphemisms for war actions
23:44:56 <Zarutian> oerjan: it is more merchanry than war
23:46:38 <Zarutian> oerjan: also happened in USA when the West was still Wild. Specially against 'sherifs' (that didnt and dont have any legimate authority)
23:47:44 <oerjan> i vaguely thought sheriffs were elected officials. although perhaps not always legitimately so.
23:48:29 <Zarutian> oerjan: with voter fraud rampant? and in seriousness, there were some 'voted'
23:49:11 <Zarutian> oerjan: also oyster romance novels are overrated.
23:51:01 <Zarutian> but yeah, 'civil asset forfeiture' is just an euphemism for theft
23:51:02 * News eats the oysters
23:53:17 * oerjan still has no idea what the oyster romance novels thing is about.
23:53:38 <int-e> are they about coming out of the shell?
23:54:05 <oerjan> i've always thought my shell was a turtle, not an oyster.
23:54:05 <int-e> almost 1am, don't answer that, I need sleep ;)
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