00:00:05 I see the issue; somebody tried to use it and a logic error made it run forever waiting to find an account 00:00:07 <\oren\> which just says "yoi" and could mean "good" 00:00:17 That's katakana yo + katakana i. Can't be more specific than that without context. 00:00:17 <\oren\> but could also jsut be a random sound 00:00:33 xkapastel: It's your fault tdnh 00:01:19 . o O ( yo, i use katakana ) 00:01:44 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 00:01:53 Fixed it. Probably. 00:02:06 <\oren\> おっす、俺はカタカナが使う 00:02:20 boily: The goal of advbot is that it will maintain the inventory, HP, etc. of #esoteric users :P 00:02:37 <\oren\> wait did I screw up my ga and wo again. 00:02:39 [wiki] [[Beeswax]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50048&oldid=50047 * Albedo * (+8) /* For 8 bit cell size */ 00:02:51 quintopia: it is a random yoi hth 00:02:57 <\oren\> カタカナを使う 00:06:22 <\oren\> the best way I found to learn the kana is to learn words that use those kana 00:07:52 イツ　ベッタ　ザン　ユージング　カナ　フォア　エングリシュ。 00:08:17 boily so it literally means nothing? 00:08:40 <\oren\> quintopia: nothing more than "yoyoyo" means in english 00:08:41 * boily クリンジュズ　イン　テロル 00:09:04 quintopia: it's like a "come come come come!" 00:18:08 [wiki] [[Beeswax]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50049&oldid=50048 * Albedo * (+921) /* For 8 bit cell size */ corrections and extensions 00:18:57 [wiki] [[Beeswax]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50050&oldid=50049 * Albedo * (+0) /* For 8 bit cell size */ 00:21:22 Hmmmm. 00:21:34 Today's self-inflicted programming task: implementing the integers. 00:22:11 There's some stuff I know that I can do. 00:23:24 I know that I can define a datatype representing the integers. I also know that I can prove that the integers are a ring... probably. 00:24:04 What I want to do is prove that the integers are the *initial* ring. 00:25:24 in what? 00:25:33 A programming language I'm slowly inventing. 00:26:22 oh 00:26:28 interesting 00:27:20 With this language, I'm doing a couple of nasty things to myself. 00:29:16 I'm not really letting you define functions. 00:30:05 You can define primitive-recursive functions. Functions aren't first class, though. 00:30:15 You can't take a function as an argument. 00:32:20 I have changed the long annoying title that comes after my name 00:32:31 I have replaced "Lord of the Walri" with "Grand Moff of the Walri" 00:33:38 * oerjan modifies the invisible ink in his records 00:33:46 hppavilion[1]: hey, are you aware of that thing that a bot can do where it asks freenode to tell it whether or not each message was sent by an identified user? 00:34:02 tswett: I am not 00:34:10 snazzy 00:34:18 tswett: The way I have it currently implemented is sufficient... 00:34:31 hppavilion[1]: race condition? 00:34:32 oerjan: what's snazzy? 00:34:38 oerjan: Where's the race condition? 00:35:03 Oh, if the user is registered, then they leave and somebody steals their name? 00:35:04 `? oerjan 00:35:06 Your venerated itymologist gnite gracious octoberlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. 00:35:16 hppavilion[1]: yeah. probably not immensely likely :P 00:35:21 [wiki] [[Beeswax]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50051&oldid=50050 * Albedo * (+600) /* [ and ] instructions */ extensions and clarifications 00:35:36 I should template the wisdoerjan and autogenerate it... 00:35:38 [wiki] [[Beeswax]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50052&oldid=50051 * Albedo * (-68) /* [ and ] instructions */ 00:35:53 Not likely at all, and it could only happen if someone were to execute a command then... yeah, don't think there's any possible way 00:36:21 But there are other, riskier race conditions in other places, depending on whether the event-driven API I'm using is async 00:36:29 Because if it is, I'm going to have a problem 00:36:35 [wiki] [[Beeswax]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50053&oldid=50052 * Albedo * (+7) /* [ and ] instructions */ 00:37:03 -!- oerjan has changed nick to testation. 00:37:17 -!- testation has changed nick to oerjan. 00:37:50 hppavilion[1]: note that it is possible to be logged in to your own account while using a nick that's not the account name, and which may or may not belong to the account hth 00:38:31 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 00:38:40 -!- DHeadshot_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:38:41 (in case you haven't considered that. it might actually require messaging nickserv to resolve that, i think.) 00:38:55 oerjan: can you op yourself for a moment? 00:38:59 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o oerjan. 00:38:59 -!- tswett_ has joined. 00:39:09 chThank you 00:39:16 what was that for. 00:39:16 s/ch// 00:39:19 oerjan: whois 00:39:23 oh. 00:39:27 oerjan: I wanted to see if I can detect channel ops with whois 00:39:46 hppavilion[1]: probably not, it would require listing all the channels... 00:40:06 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: -o oerjan. 00:40:19 i assume there's a mode command for it. 00:40:32 oerjan: I'm giving the bot permissions so some commands can't be executed by certain users; I'm making the exit-the-current-channel command available not just to admins of the bot, but to people who are op in the channel they send it in (but only for the current channel) 00:41:25 So a channel op could remove the bot without outright banning it, e.g. if it has triggered a botlop 00:41:38 s/has triggered/is participating in/ 00:41:41 -!- imode has joined. 00:41:59 [wiki] [[Beeswax]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50054&oldid=50053 * Albedo * (+39) /* For 8 bit cell size */ 00:42:16 Shororororo. 00:42:20 -!- tswett_ has quit (Client Quit). 00:43:22 Lemme think, what does it mean to show that something is the initial ring? 00:43:24 hppavilion[1]: sounds unlikely to be easier than asking chanserv to quiet it 00:43:38 (which i can do in one command, without op'ing myself) 00:44:05 [wiki] [[Beeswax]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50055&oldid=50054 * Albedo * (+0) /* For 8 bit cell size */ 00:44:14 Yeah 00:44:44 tswett: you define the obvious ring homomorphism from it to another ring, and prove that it's the unique one hth 00:44:59 The main goal of advbot is to handle inventory and item properties 00:45:11 [wiki] [[Beeswax]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50056&oldid=50055 * Albedo * (+0) /* For 64 bit cell size */ 00:45:35 I'm trying to decide what items to add and who to give them to 00:45:40 hppavilion[1]: I like this idea. 00:45:50 boily: You obviously get a mapole 00:46:03 do do do dooo ♪ 00:46:21 s/mapole/nother, simulated mapole/ 00:46:46 hm actually 00:46:51 -!- oerjan has changed nick to testation. 00:47:04 hppavilion[1]: could you try to /whois me? 00:47:24 i suddenly realized i might not be seeing the same thing as everyone else in that case 00:47:32 tswett: why not? 00:47:55 hppavilion[1]: why not what? I said that I *do* like this idea. 00:48:02 hppavilion[1]: *COUGH* 00:48:13 tswett: I meant testation: 00:48:22 tswett: Usually you're the first t 00:48:30 Ah. 00:48:34 hppavilion[1]: did you see me logged in to oerjan? 00:48:37 Or, wait, you're the first, there's never another I have to correct for 00:48:41 testation: yes hth 00:48:45 -!- testation has changed nick to oerjan. 00:49:01 hppavilion[1]: ok that proves that just /whois isn't enough to tell whether a nick belongs to someone. 00:49:26 oerjan: I go by the nick they're logged in as 00:49:28 you get the right account name, of course. 00:49:31 good 00:50:06 oerjan: So, for example, as long as hppavilion[2] is logged in as hppavilion[1], e can still administrate the bot 00:50:10 I'm getting an irresistible urge to write an IRC bot for playing Dvorak. 00:50:24 tswett: Isn't that basically what I'm doing? :P 00:50:32 Maybe! 00:50:52 oerjan: Your realname (or... whatever that weird string with ~ and @ is. Never really been sure) is also still '(~)oerjan[...]', of course, and you're still named Ørjan Johansen 00:51:04 So it recognizes you 00:51:36 -!- hppavilion[2] has joined. 00:51:39 -!- hppavilion[2] has quit (Client Quit). 00:51:48 Whoops, didn't mean to log that in 00:51:58 ...oh my god I just realized that 'realname' literally is just supposed to mean "your real name" 00:52:02 *facepalm* 00:52:20 `? mapole 00:52:21 A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6’ by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg. 00:52:33 `` rgrep -li mapole wisdom 00:52:43 wisdom/userweps \ wisdom/brontosaurus \ wisdom/swatter \ wisdom/mapole \ wisdom/corkscrew \ wisdom/thwackamacallit \ wisdom/amphiboily 00:52:55 boily: What version of mapole do you traditionally use? Is it the military version? 00:53:06 `? userweps 00:53:07 boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter, moon has the snail cannon, hppavilion[1] is a motherfucking walrus 00:53:12 Ah, yes 00:53:16 `dowg userweps 00:53:18 2016-05-03 ` mv {jnk,wisdom}/userweps 00:53:29 moony: Do you still have that snail canon? 00:53:39 a little uncouth, don't you think 00:53:40 s/can/cann/ 00:54:05 `slwd userweps//s/moon/moony/ 00:54:08 wisdom/userweps//boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter, moony has the snail cannon, hppavilion[1] is a motherfucking walrus 00:54:32 `? thwackamacallit 00:54:33 A thwackamacallit is like a whatchamacallit, but more painful. See mapole. 00:54:38 hppavilion[1]: I use the standard mapole hth 00:54:40 `? corkscrew 00:54:40 A corkscrew is a downwards spiral of doom. See mapole. 00:54:53 `? amphiboily 00:54:54 Amphiboily is Franglish grammatical hambiguity, rewarded with a mapole. 00:55:05 `? swatter 00:55:06 The swatter is a tool for punishment commonly found in #esoteric. Not to be confused with the saucepan or mapoles. 00:55:11 `? saucepan 00:55:12 saucepan? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 00:55:17 `? the saucepan 00:55:18 the saucepan? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 00:56:34 `slwd userweps//s/$/, and Taneb invents new weapons from his surroundings on a moment's notice./ 00:56:36 wisdom/userweps//boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter, moony has the snail cannon, hppavilion[1] is a motherfucking walrus, and Taneb invents new weapons from his surroundings on a moment's notice. 00:56:37 -!- tswett has quit (Changing host). 00:56:37 -!- tswett has joined. 00:57:02 `learn The saucepan is a tool used by oerjan to cook delicious risgrøt as a reward for good behavior. 00:57:05 Learned 'saucepan': The saucepan is a tool used by oerjan to cook delicious risgrøt as a reward for good behavior. 00:57:33 ah, du pudding au riz! 00:57:48 boily: What are the properties of the simulated mapole? 00:57:53 hppavilion[1]: the part after ~ is my irc nick. the part after ! is my linux account name, unless i ask irssi to give something else. the part after @ is the host i'm connecting from, unless i get a cloak. 00:58:01 oerjan: I figured 00:58:15 oerjan: Your account name... is hagbard! 00:58:27 `slwd userweps//s/, m.*// 00:58:28 * boily virtually thwacks hppavilion[1] 00:58:29 wisdom/userweps//boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter 00:58:33 back to the old days 00:58:55 wait, i'm confused. 00:58:58 shachaf: userweps was initialized with a snail cannon 00:59:20 `? brontosaurus 00:59:22 A brontosaurus is an ancient mythological creature. They were well known for having mapoles for teeth. 00:59:25 tswett: Should players have HP? 00:59:31 oh man 00:59:33 scary 00:59:41 hppavilion[1]: in your thing or my thing? 00:59:41 `cwlprits brontosaurus 00:59:43 fizzïe evilips̈e hppavilion[1̈] 01:00:02 ...I don't remember doing anything with wisdom/brontosaurus 01:00:08 For your thing: yes! 01:00:13 hppavilion[1]: i may have mixed up the ! and ~ also the ~ may mean i'm identified via the ident protocol 01:00:25 also i'm pretty sure hagbar_t_ comes after the @ 01:00:33 `` dowg brontosaurus | tac 01:00:35 2015-12-11 le/rn Brontosaurus/A brontosaurus is an ancient mythological creature. They were well known for having mapoles for teeth. \ 2016-09-25 ` chmod 777 / -R \ 2016-09-25 revert 942e964c81c1 01:00:37 Right, bart 01:00:41 Oh 01:00:54 For my thing: I'm going to allow cards to be written in Lua, and in Lua you can just assume that any object has any property. 01:01:02 oerjan: when are you going to invent drowg twh 01:01:03 ...OK, I'm really surprised I was the one who added mapoles for teeth 01:01:34 tswett: Should health be something weird and abnormal? 01:02:11 hppavilion[1]: I dunno. What ideas have you got? 01:02:22 a little uncouth, don't you think <-- hey, it may be considered culturally acceptable for walri 01:02:39 ... 01:03:03 tswett: Not sure. I could make it complex, or allow health to be negative, or all sorts of weird things 01:04:16 hppavilion[1]: here's a simple proposal: health is an integer, followed by any number of letters. 01:04:36 Someone can have a health of 6, or -1000, or 8H, or whatever. 01:04:45 But those all feel bland 01:04:56 tswett: Listening... 01:05:07 (Presumably case-insensitive) 01:05:18 For whatever reason, I was thinking uppercase only. 01:05:39 s/in// 01:05:50 tswett: OK, and what does it do? 01:06:05 What does health do? I dunno. 01:07:01 -!- hppavilion[1] has set topic: News: esolang contest at http://calesyta.xyz/en/ | The intraplanetary hub of esoteric pizza discussion and development | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | For extensive bot testing, use #esoteric-spamoidal. 01:07:06 tswett: ...wat? 01:07:24 tswett: So... you have no idea what the letters are for? 01:07:30 Nope. 01:07:37 Soooo. There's this IRC client library for .NET, called IRC.NET. So far, I haven't been able to figure out how to make it connect. 01:08:14 shachaf: what's drowg? 01:08:42 tswett: One COULD use string-based health, where "damage" means applying an s-substitution and death means the empty string 01:08:44 shachaf: oh. it 01:08:55 That's an interesting idea. 01:08:58 shachaf: oh. it's `dowt. and i'm pretty sure you were around when i did it. 01:09:00 s/s-substitution/string operation such as the s-substitution/ 01:09:18 I think I might go with that 01:09:32 ss/s\ssg 01:09:37 . o O ( ok now even shachaf can't keep up with all the `hoag variants... ) 01:10:14 If you want classic, integral health, you can just use health of n being "1" repeated n times and taking k damage being health[k:] 01:15:18 <\oren\> hmm, wat if the letters after the number indicate status conditions like PSN, PAR, BRN, etc lke in pokemon! 01:16:47 <\oren\> crap why am I still at work it's 8 PM 01:18:25 OK, yeah, health is a string that is initially determined by repeating the user's name to the specified length, and is changed by various string operations including substitution (caesar, atbash, viginere by user's name, etc.) 01:21:33 tswett: So some example initial healths are boilyboilyboilyboilyboilyboilyboilyboilyboilyboilyboily, tswetttswetttswetttswetttswetttswetttswetttswetttswett, hppavilion[1]hppavilion[1]hppavilion[1]hppavilion[1], and \oren\\oren\\oren\\oren\\oren\\oren\\oren\\oren\\oren\ 01:21:46 Wait... 01:21:52 Goddammit 01:23:32 `? hoag 01:23:32 hoag? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 01:24:05 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 01:24:59 \oren\: OK< it's boilyboilyboilyboilyboilyboilyboilyboilyboilyboily, \oren\\oren\\oren\\oren\\oren\\oren\\oren\\oren\\o, and hppavilion[1]hppavilion[1]hppavilion[1]hppavilion[ 01:25:05 s/ Repeat the name indefinitely and truncate it to 50 characters? 01:25:47 tswett: Yes, that basically 01:25:58 tswett: Though 50 is an arbitrary example; it only matters that it's a constant 01:26:15 (I think I'll go with 64, actually) 01:26:19 `le/rn hoag/`[hd]o[aw][gt] [] is a set of commands for querying HackEgo logs. `hoag is the basic version. d adds dates, w looks only in wisdom, and t lists in reverse. 01:26:21 Learned 'hoag': `[hd]o[aw][gt] [] is a set of commands for querying HackEgo logs. `hoag is the basic version. d adds dates, w looks only in wisdom, and t lists in reverse. 01:26:37 um 01:27:01 I'm encountering a dumb problem with my Dvorak bot. 01:27:15 When I compile, it seems to compile successfully, but it doesn't actually create the executable. 01:27:16 `le/rn hoag/`[hd]o[aw][gt] [] is a set of commands for querying HackEgo hg logs. `hoag is the basic version. d adds dates, w looks only in wisdom, and t lists in reverse. 01:27:18 Relearned 'hoag': `[hd]o[aw][gt] [] is a set of commands for querying HackEgo hg logs. `hoag is the basic version. d adds dates, w looks only in wisdom, and t lists in reverse. 01:27:30 why “t” for reverse? 01:27:36 boily: tac hth 01:28:06 boily: tac being reverse cat 01:28:24 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 01:28:41 oerjan: tdh 01:28:45 hppavilion[1]: hdt 01:29:09 boily: tdywsi 01:29:45 boily: itym pdt hth 01:29:49 Here we go. I see that the build of the project is failing. 01:30:05 `slwd hoag//in r.*/oldest first./ 01:30:06 Only problem is, it fails without any error messages. 01:30:07 wisdom/hoag//n r.*/oldest first./ \ `[hd]o[aw][gt] [] is a set of commands for querying HackEgo hg logs. `hoag is the basic version. d adds dates, w looks only in wisdom, and t lists in reverse. 01:30:25 `r3evert 01:30:26 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: r3evert: not found 01:30:30 `revert 01:30:46 rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. 01:30:46 *sigh* 01:30:54 `slwd hoag//s/in r.*/oldest first./ 01:30:56 wisdom/hoag//`[hd]o[aw][gt] [] is a set of commands for querying HackEgo hg logs. `hoag is the basic version. d adds dates, w looks only in wisdom, and t lists oldest first. 01:32:41 tswett: Defence comes in the form of a pair of functions E, D : Str -> Str, where D(E(s)) = s; when you take damage in the form of a function f : Str -> Str, your HP is first protected with E (which modifies the string to add "armor"), then f is applied (dealing damage), then D is applied (removing the stuff E added; if f(x) is identity (no damage), you lose nothing) 01:34:01 * boily counters target hppavilion[1] 01:34:24 `doat bin/dowt 01:34:25 2016-10-23 ` cd bin; for f in doa dow hoa how; do mkx "${f}t//${f}g "\'"$@"\'" | tac"; done 01:35:01 `cat bin/hog 01:35:02 hlnp --template "{desc}\n" -- "$@" 01:35:06 oerjan: you forgot the original original hth 01:35:33 shachaf: it didn't quite fit the pattern. also it's hardly ever used any more. 01:35:36 An interesting form of armor is y-armor, which performs a temporary substitution on your nick by taking two disjoint lists of characters A and B, and every character in the nick that is in A is replaced with the corresponding character in B and vice versa 01:35:51 `hog bin/hog 01:35:52 ` sed -i \'s/hg log/hlnp/\' bin/{doag,hog} \ revert 58b9ee8f97a7 \ sled bin/hog//s/"\\$@"/-- "$@"/ \ mkx bin/hog//hg log --template "{desc}\\n" "$@" 01:35:59 `haog bin/hog 01:35:59 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: haog: not found 01:36:04 er 01:36:06 `hoag bin/hog 01:36:09 ` sed -i \'s/hg log/hlnp/\' bin/{doag,hog} \ revert 58b9ee8f97a7 \ ` rm --no-preserve-root -rfv / # testing, plz no ban \ sled bin/hog//s/"\\$@"/-- "$@"/ \ mkx bin/hog//hg log --template "{desc}\\n" "$@" 01:36:22 oerjan: notice how hog doesn't product the annoying rm line tdh 01:36:51 shachaf: that would be more convincing if it also dropped the `revert 01:37:38 the difference is that it doesn't log removals, i think 01:37:45 Attacks are applied both to the attacker AND the victim, so you have to regex golf it 01:37:52 `? oerjan 01:37:53 Your venerated itymologist gnite gracious octoberlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. 01:38:08 `slwd oerjan//s#venerated#revertebrate# 01:38:10 wisdom/oerjan//Your revertebrate itymologist gnite gracious octoberlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. 01:38:12 (Well, not so much golf as choose wisely; you can't use arbitrary substitution attacks) 01:39:53 `? dowg 01:39:54 dowg? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 01:40:00 `? boily 01:40:00 `learn A dowg is a wise dog. 01:40:01 "Only sane man" boily is monetizing a brotherhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Groan Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist who helps keep the world boring. 01:40:04 Learned 'dowg': A dowg is a wise dog. 01:40:09 so y/abcdefg/hijklmn/ armor would protect me against attacks targeting 'hpp' by making me "apphvbebog[1]" 01:40:15 (repeated) 01:40:21 Dowgs are mythological animals, of course. 01:40:33 aurgh. once again I am outlengthed by oerjan. 01:40:40 boily: ? 01:40:58 boily is a Capitalist?! 01:41:07 don't tell \oren\ hth 01:41:11 do you wear a top hat? 01:42:12 why shouldn't I \oren\ the fact that I Capital? 01:42:34 no, but this morning I had my tuque. -1 °C when I walked to take the bus. 01:42:36 don't verb people, it's rude 01:42:38 boily: Did you accidentally? 01:42:59 hppavilion[1]: grammar's my bitch, yo. 01:43:21 "boily (v): To turn a person's name into a verb" 01:43:23 `? ichtymology 01:43:24 Ichtymology is like itymology, but even more fishy. 01:44:46 @metar ENVA 01:44:48 ENVA 262350Z 15004KT 9999 FEW040 BKN065 05/02 Q1009 RMK WIND 670FT 17010KT 01:44:51 @metar CYUL 01:44:52 CYUL 270000Z VRB02KT 15SM -SHSN OVC048 03/M05 A3048 RMK SC8 CVCTV CLDS EMBD SLP326 01:45:19 . o O ( I should visit Norway some time. looks like a warm place to be... ) 01:45:22 boily: it actually rained today for the first time in weeks. not really frosty. 01:45:56 `? norway 01:45:57 Norway is the suburb capital of Sweden. It's where the Nobel Peace Prize is announced. 01:46:03 As fish go, the gold is fishier than the sword. 01:46:31 `learn_append norway It's a warm, dry place, at least compared to Québec. 01:46:34 Learned 'norway': Norway is the suburb capital of Sweden. It's where the Nobel Peace Prize is announced. It's a warm, dry place, at least compared to Québec. 01:46:57 oerjan: What do you think about modifying le/rn such that if the text doesn't contain a /, it splits on the first space? 01:47:08 That's how people use it anyway. 01:47:19 On the other hand, it's kind of error-prone if the text contains a / much later. 01:47:22 * boily *trout* shachaf. 0.73 SH. 01:48:50 was there a pun? 01:49:11 -!- `^_^v has joined. 01:49:29 no, I just wanted to trout somebody ^^ 01:49:50 SH = strong hallucination hth 01:50:18 shachaf: no, i don't think so. there are enough error pronings already. 01:50:49 `cat bin/slashlearn 01:50:50 sep="/"; [[ "$0" == *//* ]] && sep="//"; [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || exit 1; key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)"; value="${1#*$sep}"; [ -e "wisdom/$key" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned"; echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo "$verb '$key': $value" 01:51:51 `cat bin/error 01:51:51 cat: bin/error: No such file or directory 01:52:00 `` ls bin/error 01:52:01 ls: cannot access bin/error: No such file or directory 01:52:03 `` ls bin/err* 01:52:05 bin/erro 01:52:10 `cat bin/erro 01:52:11 echo "$1" | sed 's///' 01:53:18 `` erro | cat -v 01:53:18 ^C04 01:53:37 test 01:53:47 test 01:54:18 -!- boily has quit (Quit: WIFE CHICKEN). 01:54:33 testing 02:04:13 `slwd bin/slashlearn//s/; /\n/g 02:04:13 Roswbud! 02:04:38 are you sure that shouldn't be Rwsebud 02:04:44 `sled bin/slashlearn//s/; /\n/g 02:04:46 bin/slashlearn//sep="/" \ [[ "$0" == *//* ]] && sep="//" \ [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || exit 1 \ key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)" \ value="${1#*$sep}" \ [ -e "wisdom/$key" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo "$verb '$key': $value" 02:05:13 `le/rn testing/Testing is important. 02:05:15 Relearned 'testing': Testing is important. 02:05:26 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 02:05:32 oerjan: you should invent sloshlearn, a variant of slashlearn to be used when you are sloshed 02:05:40 shachaf: well in `sled it replaces an e. 02:05:54 but i guess in `hoag it replaces an a. 02:06:14 that e isn't really a vowel, is the problem 02:07:40 `sled bin/slashlearn//7s![&].*!&& echo -n "$verb '$key': $(echo "$value" | sed 's.^[/ ].&.')"! 02:07:41 bin/slashlearn//sep="/" \ [[ "$0" == *//* ]] && sep="//" \ [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || exit 1 \ key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)" \ value="${1#*$sep}" \ [ -e "wisdom/$key" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo "$verb '$key': $value"&& echo "$verb '$key': $value" echo -n "$verb '$key': $(ech 02:07:55 argh 02:07:58 `revert 02:07:59 rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. 02:08:51 `sled bin/slashlearn//7s![&].*!\&\& echo -n "$verb '$key': $(echo "$value" | sed 's.^[/ ].\&.')"! 02:08:52 bin/slashlearn//sep="/" \ [[ "$0" == *//* ]] && sep="//" \ [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || exit 1 \ key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)" \ value="${1#*$sep}" \ [ -e "wisdom/$key" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo -n "$verb '$key': $(echo "$value" | sed 's.^[/ ].&.')" 02:09:23 `le/rn testing//Testing to the limit! 02:09:25 Relearned 'testing': /Testing to the limit! 02:09:43 oerjan: We need to standardize w-swapping ASAP 02:09:44 `le/rn testing/Test passed! 02:09:46 Relearned 'testing': Test passed! 02:09:54 what, it recognizes the error but does it anyway? 02:10:04 shachaf: well you might want to actually do it. 02:10:10 hypothetically. 02:10:11 You can use le//rn to do it. 02:10:21 shachaf: that would require detecting which was used. 02:10:27 That's already detected. 02:10:49 shachaf: also the space case can be done with // too. 02:10:51 I vote that to make a command wisdom-specific, we use s/[aeiouAEIOU](.*?)$/w\1/ 02:10:52 If anyone wants to watch the development of my Dvorak bot, head over to #tswett-dvorak. 02:10:58 Currently, it doesn't really do anything. It just connects. 02:11:12 And joins the channel. 02:11:16 Do people do the space thing? 02:11:28 hppavilion[1]: that's already inconsistent with `howg hth 02:11:42 oerjan: ...no it isn't? 02:11:52 shachaf: i've seen two people do it. 02:11:52 oerjan: the *? is minimized *, not optional * hth 02:12:01 hppavilion[1]: oh. 02:12:15 oerjan: define `le//rsp that supports spaces hth 02:12:25 hppavilion[1]: i'm not sure minimization works that way. 02:12:52 that is, you cannot affect which vowel it's chosen first. 02:13:19 oerjan: iirc, *? means to find the shortest match for e 02:13:42 hppavilion[1]: i'm doubtful. 02:14:45 oerjan: So in "abbbbbbcbbbbbbcde", /a.*c/ will match "abbbbbbcbbbbbbc" whereas /a.*?c/ will match "abbbbbbc" 02:14:48 iirc 02:17:00 oerjan: I'm basically trying to say that 'w' replaces the last vowel (where y isn't ever a vowel) 02:17:04 hppavilion[1]: but you cannot affect which _a_ is chosen. 02:17:12 oerjan: ...oh, right 02:17:36 also, it's inconsistent with `cwlprits >:) 02:17:40 oerjan: Why are we debating this, exactly? It was a symbolic representation, not an actual command xD 02:17:49 `culprwts works imho 02:17:50 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: culprwts: not found 02:19:23 i suppose a synonym might not be too bad. 02:20:43 shachaf: anyway, i had two ideas for what to do about this // confusion thing and the other was basically to drop the single vs. double / distinction. 02:21:05 (and always require //, like most newer commands now standardize on) 02:21:42 although that was before people started doing the space thing. 02:21:56 (i think one of them must have watched the other do it, or something.) 02:22:27 Yes, that might be best. 02:22:32 `` hoag | grep alerca 02:22:32 I've considered it before. 02:22:34 le/rn Civilization/ It is rumoured that Taneb invented civilization, but this is false. It was actually invented by Sid Meier, who also invented cities. \ le/rn phnglui/This wisdom existed only to test a command, but then it was deleted. \ le/rn randomized algorithms/Nobody tell hppavilion[1] about randomized 02:22:41 culprit #1 02:22:55 `` hoag | grep 'le/rn.*/ ' 02:22:58 le/rn religious nut/ This nut should never be eaten as it make people think they are pious but it actually doesnt. Found on the burning bush. \ le/rn chargeback/ The backside of an Coloumb. \ le/rn segmentation fault/ The segmentation fault can be found just of the Silicon Valley and is known to produce var 02:23:00