< 1475280028 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, 'like' would be a better translation I think, but sure < 1475280034 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the minimum number of symbols (with minimalist rules) required to- in an unambiguous way- express all of traditional algebra? < 1475280054 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's the go-to word for that, yes < 1475280067 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also see that shachaf repeated himself, but with correct grammar this time. < 1475280071 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a+b can be expressed as a-(-b), but to reduce rules we can do a-(0-b) < 1475280082 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Look. Last time I was unsure of myself. < 1475280093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I looked it up on the Internet and I found a version with incorrect grammar. < 1475280106 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, I recall, vaguely. < 1475280148 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In APL, ?B is roll B (choose an integer at random from the first B integers (nevermind that "first k integers" makes no sense) < 1475280164 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: good. the wiktionary example seemed rather archaic ("Av konungen gillad och stadfäst.") < 1475280174 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1475280176 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: of course it makes sense. they are the first k integers. < 1475280186 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an out of context quote. < 1475280187 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what's the first integer? < 1475280188 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://microapl.com/apl_help/ch_020_020_170.htm < 1475280198 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Generates numbers chosen at random from the series of the first N integers which start at the index origin (⎕IO)" < 1475280212 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it has an index origin. OK. < 1475280220 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1475280226 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of APL's ugly quirks < 1475280228 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expected A?B to be choosing the first B integers, minus the first A < 1475280251 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except A?B is basically just an array of ?B run A times < 1475280268 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: -9223372036854775808 hth < 1475280283 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yes...that is a lot more useful in an APL context than what you suggested < 1475280288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...fair enough, can't think of any smaller integers < 1475280288 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode < 1475280289 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1475280317 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I figured it COULD be ordering it as [0, 1, -1, 2, -2, 3, -3, ...], but I doubted it) < 1475280379 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it appears that shachaf's client put a color reset code before that `learn earlier < 1475280391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, ⌈B is the smallest integer ≥ B, ⌊B is the greatest integer ≤ B < 1475280392 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :for "the first B integers, minus the first A" you'd probably do A+?B-A < 1475280404 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes. It wasn't a serious `learn. < 1475280411 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Yes, I figured < 1475280440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A⌈B is the greater, A⌊B is the lesser < 1475280445 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: SPOILER < 1475280447 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the function for round? < 1475280450 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the notation ⌈x⌉/⌊x⌋ for ceiling/floor originated in A Programming Language < 1475280472 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was puzzled! < 1475280478 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, the book, not the later programming language that followed from the notation < 1475280479 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry...) < 1475280537 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :4... < 1475280555 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's particularly insidious because it's one of the characters that doesn't get copied in irssi... < 1475280582 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one? < 1475280584 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm more familiar with J than APL, but AFAIK it doesn't have a 'round' primitive; you'd have to implement it in terms of ceil/floor < 1475280605 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL would've been more interesting with 3 functions for every operator *; A*, *B, and A*B < 1475280615 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, this one. < 1475280621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e> this one? < 1475280644 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, i got a newline on the end < 1475280655 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but... how? How do you get the fractional- wait, floor(x) if abs(x)-floor(abs(x)) < 0.5 else ceil(x). Easy. < 1475280666 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Counting to 15 is hard. < 1475280676 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`confuse oerjan < 1475280699 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my browser doesn't show it in the logs either, so i have to paste it into irssi, and _then_ i can see on my own editing line < 1475280713 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it on < 1475280714 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475280717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ceil(-0.5) = 0, right? I assume so, but I can see it being defined as -1 just as easily, and really being better that way) < 1475280728 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :my browser shows a box with 000F in it there, hmm. < 1475280738 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I lack the right fonts to make it invisible. < 1475280739 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If we define ceil(-0.5) = -1, then ceil(x) = -ceil(-x) < 1475280741 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1475280748 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose i can probably see it in vim too < 1475280779 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait, windows, which browser? < 1475280799 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :⍋B is a nice function though... < 1475280805 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is using firefox under linux, that may make a difference < 1475280820 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: IE hth < 1475280845 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: stop exploding the internet < 1475280885 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(heh that's almost a plausible typo in qwerty) < 1475280887 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves his triceratops bone cane at int-e  < 1475280915 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I knew you were living in the stone age :P < 1475280934 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind taxes, but I don't like the idea of paying taxes that I'm not required to pay. < 1475280939 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, wrong channel. < 1475280986 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also I have no clue by how many million years that is off; I blame the Feuerstein family) < 1475281003 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym the Pierrafeu. < 1475281007 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i'm pretty sure IE _used_ to show those chars, but it changed at some point. < 1475281030 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: approx. 65 million years hth < 1475281043 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the Flintstones. < 1475281049 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think triceratops was there until the end < 1475281049 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks < 1475281088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc they're just "Flint" in norwegian. or at least used to be. < 1475281092 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475281098 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no:flint = en:flintstone) < 1475281104 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's all french to me < 1475281154 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(google helped) < 1475281212 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: uhm, you might want to learn APL a bit before having opinions on its parsing rules :P it really wouldn't work well to have both prefix, postfix and infix < 1475281223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes xD < 1475281227 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm apparently flint means the same thing in english. material vs. piece of it? < 1475281235 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: And circumfix and postcircumfix and... < 1475281239 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could come up with such a language probably, but it certainly wouldn't be APL < 1475281262 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the original APL notation had several circumfix operators (such as floor/ceil, as mentioned) < 1475281264 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about interfix? < 1475281274 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERCAL has a few unary operators that go one character inside their argument < 1475281278 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: http://www.jsoftware.com/papers/APL.htm < 1475281289 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heh, that is pretty bizarre < 1475281293 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :defining ceil(-0.5) as -1 is pretty stupid < 1475281293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What if your argument is one character? < 1475281303 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have a feeling the answer is "INTERCAL") < 1475281312 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally speaking, ceil(x) >= x (hence the name) < 1475281313 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that can't happen in INTERCAL < 1475281316 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: But then -ceil(-x) is equal to ceil(x) < 1475281323 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all legal operands are at least two characters long < 1475281332 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's not ceil anymore < 1475281346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: And this satisfies a property that abs(ceil(x)) > abs(x) < 1475281351 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "round away from zero" < 1475281358 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ceil rounds toward +infty < 1475281361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Fair enough < 1475281374 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it could be called "magnitude ceiling" or "absolute ceiling" < 1475281375 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's not what ceil says < 1475281379 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Well yeah < 1475281381 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HireFly < 1475281383 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ceiling is ebove you, isn't it < 1475281391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: OK < 1475281414 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, I wanted a name for this operation: < 1475281418 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :exp . abs . log < 1475281445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I have a bad habit of thinking of numbers as (sign, magnitude) rather than just value < 1475281447 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: but if you stand on a mirror, you see the reflection of the ceiling below you < 1475281450 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 0 is like a mirror < 1475281450 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1475281468 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you don't? < 1475281470 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475281481 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't? < 1475281486 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :next we'll discuss how negative numbers are imaginary... < 1475281506 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I made an operation called sign-preserving power (x^'y) that is equal to sgn(x)*abs(x)^y < 1475281508 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If negative numbers are imaginary, what sorts of numbers are complex? < 1475281509 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never watched in a mirror and saw my foot pointing upwards < 1475281518 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: All of them hth < 1475281520 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, zon_ < 1475281532 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who would ever step _on_ a mirror < 1475281540 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me? < 1475281545 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : a ceiling is ebove you, isn't it <-- technically, ceilings are in the opposite direction on the opposite side of the earth >:) < 1475281548 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1475281577 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, because downwards is not defined that way < 1475281647 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tinyurl.com/z52q2x6 is a bit creepy. < 1475281663 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Downwards is defined in terms of "away from the center of the earth" < 1475281671 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, posting tinyurl.com links in IRC? < 1475281677 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/away from/towards/ < 1475281693 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: and ceilings are generally upwards hth < 1475281701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes < 1475281723 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I usually use the plain link but in this case it was long and uninformative? < 1475281727 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...And if we treat the center of the earth as the origin, that means that someone on the opposite side of the earth is closer to you than their ceiling < 1475281746 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I clicked on it but that's only because I know you a bit, I guess. < 1475281747 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: australians beg to differ < 1475281768 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://archivelikeyou.com/files/fullimages/Jeppe_Hein_wallner_12.jpg looks like a mirror one can step on < 1475281799 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure that if you look down into that mirror, you see the ceiling. < 1475281836 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes < 1475281836 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know the puzzle about why mirrors flip things left-to-right? < 1475281853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : who would ever step _on_ a mirror <-- now i'm reminded of my visit to the CN tower in toronto... (if that had only been a mirror...) < 1475281881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, mceil(x) is sgn(x)*ceil(abs(x)), ceil(x) is the smallest integer ≥x. Floor is the same (with mfloor and floor) < 1475281897 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I do. < 1475281913 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a good puzzle. < 1475281921 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what is it good for? < 1475281936 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Statistics, probably < 1475282387 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia QUINTHELLOPIA! I finally got my postcard, 28 days later... (well, 29 considering timezones) < 1475282387 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475282411 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`date < 1475282412 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fri Sep 30 23:40:00 UTC 2016 < 1475282535 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiirland is so far away... < 1475282555 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The password of the month is < 1475282842 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh maybe we should make a bin/learn command to make the illusion perfect. < 1475282951 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475283071 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you people can answer me avout a punishment device or construct of yore. What is it called that was put around the necks and hands of criminals but was not fixed in any place? Usually made out of sturdy wood. < 1475283100 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: What illusion? < 1475283105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1475283107 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is au cœur de septembre < 1475283114 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...cool < 1475283124 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : How can you tell whether d^2x = 0? <-- it occurs to me that d is in some sense an _arbitrary_ derivative. so to get d^2 x = 0 you have to select the right one. < 1475283133 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which learn < 1475283135 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/learn < 1475283142 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /hackenv/bin/learn < 1475283143 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\?[:;,.!?]\? .*//') \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$1" >"$(echo-p "wisdom/$topic")" \ echo "$verb '$topic': $1" < 1475283151 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url /hackenv/bin/learn < 1475283154 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/learn < 1475283269 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivation_(differential_algebra) < 1475283283 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION patiently waits for an answer. < 1475283326 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ...OK, I give up, hth did that work? < 1475283420 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( Maybe `learn should be able to detect a phrase between |vertical bars aka pipes| (after stripping /an?|the/) and use the entire phrase instead of just the first word) < 1475283455 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: pillory < 1475283480 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks. < 1475283504 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so "`learn |John Lenon| was a member of the Beatles." would put "John Lenon was a member of the Beatles." in ) < 1475283506 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdome < 1475283507 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Wisdome is the place where all of HackBot's wisdom is stored and forced to fight to the death for the freedom of being printed out when you type `wisdom. < 1475283551 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: or hm, not sure about the "not fixed in any place" part. although there were many variants of these things... < 1475283564 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nice usage of the «œ». < 1475283566 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn_append wisdome//Strictly speaking, it should be called the "Wissphere". < 1475283571 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'wisdome': The Wisdome is the place where all of HackBot's wisdom is stored and forced to fight to the death for the freedom of being printed out when you type `wisdom. /Strictly speaking, it should be called the "Wissphere". < 1475283576 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I never used œ... < 1475283591 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you didn't... < 1475283599 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was HackEgo < 1475283626 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it fits what I had read in an Alita Battle Angel manga. < 1475283629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: set the password of the month to , but when I asked it said it was au cœur de septembre < 1475283635 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks shiftily at HackEgo. «T'en sais trop sur les ligatures. C'est louche.» < 1475283639 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose someone might have edited in PM, but... < 1475283644 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475283649 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: couldnt remember what it was called exactly until you said it. < 1475283651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/password < 1475283657 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie evilipse oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan gamemanj int-e oerjan int-e oerjan mroman oerjan oerjan oerjan mroman_ < 1475283667 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what is 58.86.33.135? < 1475283674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password of the month < 1475283675 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password of the month? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475283689 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475283695 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode password < 1475283697 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0070 LATIN SMALL LETTER P] [U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A] [U+0073 LATIN SMALL LETTER S] [U+0073 LATIN SMALL LETTER S] [U+0077 LATIN SMALL LETTER W] [U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] [U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D] < 1475283727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: there were some other links in that wp article. Cangue is a chinese variant so may fit for a manga... < 1475283755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which culprits < 1475283756 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/culprits < 1475283762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url /hackenv/bin/culprits < 1475283764 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/culprits < 1475283771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "shrew's fiddle" was also portable. < 1475283786 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which hoag < 1475283787 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/hoag < 1475283795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url hackenv/bin/hoag < 1475283796 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/hackenv/bin/hoag < 1475283816 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url /hackenv/bin/hoag < 1475283818 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/hoag < 1475283848 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`where learn < 1475283849 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: where: not found < 1475283860 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... < 1475283882 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode `learn < 1475283884 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0060 GRAVE ACCENT] [U+006C LATIN SMALL LETTER L] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A] [U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] [U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] < 1475283899 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well I was thinking more of the thing that looks like the criminal has his/her hands and head through a table plus the document describing their crime. < 1475283928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode The < 1475283930 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0054 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER T] [U+0068 LATIN SMALL LETTER H] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0020 SPACE] < 1475283984 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475283987 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb//Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1475283990 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do we have a reverse-culprits? < 1475283995 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: been toying with the idea of using an 'cyberized' version of cangue in an near future sci-fi story. < 1475284010 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which echo-p < 1475284011 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/echo-p < 1475284019 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url /hackenv/bin/echo-p < 1475284021 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/echo-p < 1475284025 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what is that wissphere for? < 1475284026 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-uejmfwjqpbcqnyab QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475284045 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure whether i'm missing a reference, or you are < 1475284053 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: reverse-culprits? a list of people that make you write wisdom entries? < 1475284061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The Wisdome goes underground as well, so it should be called 'wissphere' < 1475284098 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-dpoiuwzuknpyzruu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475284103 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No, you enter a username and it returns a list of the last 10 or so files that they edited < 1475284122 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So `reverse-culprits boily would tell me what you've done with HackEgo recently < 1475284173 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't done much recently to HackEgo... < 1475284187 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh my god int-e's `learn was never processed by hackego... < 1475284192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god I'm an idiot... < 1475284227 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode 18<int-e18> `learn The password of the month is > shr/unidecoded < 1475284228 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1475284253 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :``unidecode "18<int-e18> `learn The password of the month is " > shr/decoded < 1475284254 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `unidecode: not found < 1475284269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god < 1475284272 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: Do we have a reverse-culprits? <-- i don't think so. seems hard to do efficiently. < 1475284281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode "18<int-e18> `learn The password of the month is " > shr/decoded < 1475284283 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1475284295 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU < 1475284305 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` foo < 1475284306 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: foo: command not found < 1475284312 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `unidecode `learn <-- hint, it's before the ` < 1475284329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yep, that's what I figured. < 1475284333 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was checking < 1475284362 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It does seem unefficiable at first, but I figure there could be a way to make Mercurial do it inefficiently for us < 1475284379 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: http://www.pilloryhistory.com/other.html suggests "yoke" < 1475284402 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, searching for all things with a description starting with "<$1>" (Do I need to escape that?) < 1475284461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well yeah, as long as searching all log entries isn't too much. < 1475284472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, that's the problem. < 1475284484 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also, you don't want to use `` with unidecode < 1475284514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess searching in backwards order should work if they've actually edited some < 1475284523 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably only search the last ~500 (which is STILL slow, probably) and print the most recent 10 files < 1475284538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, that's probably what you'd do < 1475284552 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd wisdome//s,/,, < 1475284560 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/wisdome//The Wisdome is the place where all of HackBot's wisdom is stored and forced to fight to the death for the freedom of being printed out when you type `wisdom. Strictly speaking, it should be called the "Wissphere". < 1475284581 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`date < 1475284582 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sat Oct 1 00:16:10 UTC 2016 < 1475284588 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the idea is that the pillory|cangue|yoke is big enough for passerbys to see the reason why it is around that person neck plus have a loop of something like monofilament wire embedded inside that will behead the criminal if an serious attempt at removal without cryptographic authorization is performed. < 1475284612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait, what did s,/,, do? < 1475284613 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: you're on your own there < 1475284627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there are <10 files, just print all that you find < 1475284704 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, newline. Apparently. < 1475284718 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess? < 1475284721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: removed a / you'd accidentally left there < 1475284724 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1475284767 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I thought le/rn required two slashes... < 1475284774 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, le//rn does < 1475284776 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, that's mkx < 1475284802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I thought le//rn needed you to sacrifice a he-goat to satan though? < 1475284813 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1475284848 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1475284866 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you want us to sacrifice a he-goat to satan? < 1475284866 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: they say that some guards' palms can be used to practise throwing stones at things, the big black cobra, and scholars, by edward bulwer-lytton) < 1475284874 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're almost the same, except le//rn requires two // but also allows you to give directories < 1475284887 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-two < 1475284899 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiser words have never been spoken, fungot. < 1475284899 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: they say that problem breathing is best known for two things. you'll probably find one on the red marble table in front of him. < 1475284920 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: But what's the other thing? < 1475284921 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: lizard corpses aren't confusing. are you a gentleman? two levels ahead is a powerful artifact. anyone who carries it by half. it was locked. he could stand it no longer, until an unsuspecting creature passes by. it stands two to four feet, by snorri sturluson) < 1475284951 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1475284953 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is au cœur de septembre < 1475284955 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: So problem breathing is best known for whatever's on the red marble table and for lizard corpses? < 1475284955 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: quetzalcoatl: one of the forest." the dear old man beamed upon her, with dried brown limbs like dead wood showing through moldering bandages. " how the wind, the wizard has hired some help. twenty other arms came rippling out. < 1475284980 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1475284980 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack* oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1475284980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The password of the month is Bierstubë. < 1475284984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'password': The password of the month is Bierstubë. < 1475285004 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ic < 1475285004 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ic (INTERCAL manual) < 1475285008 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh < 1475285020 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Can you intracalate? < 1475285025 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is there INTRACAL?) < 1475285027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit... < 1475285050 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475285088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ULFRACAL < 1475285101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Never heard 'ulfra'? < 1475285109 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(misp. 'ultra'?) < 1475285119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number of derivatives of INTERCAL is rather ironic, given that it was designed to have no similarities... < 1475285140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a misspelling, but not of ultra. < 1475285156 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :INFRA? < 1475285193 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was trying to do INTER:INTRA::INFRA:? but i think i failed < 1475285245 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1475285273 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, first of all, INTER:INTRA::?:INFRA < 1475285283 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second, ?=ULTRA < 1475285284 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1475285299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(infrared/ultraviolet) < 1475285306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so. inter isn't to intra what ultra is to infra. < 1475285315 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, is it. < 1475285430 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTER:INTRA::INFER:INFRA ? < 1475285463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :INFERNAL ULTERIOR INTEGRAL < 1475285500 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? intercal < 1475285502 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERCAL has excellent features for modular program for the enterprise market. < 1475285543 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dissonant < 1475285602 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the future, we'll all be COBOL programmers. < 1475285675 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the CABAL will see to it < 1475285714 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :infrarnal < 1475285724 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :COBOL, the language of my ancestors < 1475285771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think #esoteric should create a language JUST reasonable enough that employers will want to make people use it, but out-of-the-ordinary enough that using it is fun (and/or infuriating) for the programmers < 1475285791 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Java! < 1475285898 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Like anything BUT Java < 1475285921 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java is bland and generic, with a lot of unnecessary cruft and hyper-formulaic rules < 1475286027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking it will draw on math and FP and LP, but remain imperative enough to be usable < 1475286042 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curried functions will be the only option, for example < 1475286118 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java isn't generic. it teases you with false promises, then stabs you in the back with a blunt object. < 1475286174 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remind me to copy one very nice line I wrote just to terrorise a few coworkers next Monday. < 1475286187 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/copy/copy you/ < 1475286237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1475286252 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell-delay < 1475286252 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1475286257 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn < 1475286258 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1475286258 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1475286261 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listmodules < 1475286261 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime metar more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search < 1475286261 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :slap source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where < 1475286275 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@which tell < 1475286275 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1475286278 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where tell < 1475286278 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : @help tell < 1475286282 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help tell < 1475286282 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell . When shows activity, tell them . < 1475286286 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1475286300 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@module tell < 1475286300 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1475286455 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There wouldn't happen to be any n s.t. log_n(x) = x forall x, would there?) < 1475286655 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. < 1475286689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: log? < 1475286693 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :log_1. < 1475286721 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1^x = x? < 1475286788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :log_1(x) = x ∧ x=5 -> 1*1*1*1*1=5 < 1475286822 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list tell < 1475286822 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell provides: tell ask messages messages-loud messages? clear-messages auto-reply auto-reply? clear-auto-reply < 1475286835 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1475286841 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help auto-reply < 1475286841 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :auto-reply. Lets lambda-bot auto-reply if someone sends you a message < 1475286854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION didn't notice that before < 1475286856 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@auto-reply < 1475286856 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No auto-reply message given. Did you mean @clear-auto-reply? < 1475286860 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help! messages? < 1475286860 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :messages?. Tells you whether you have any messages < 1475286918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask oerjan You've already set auto-reply, haven't you? < 1475286918 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475286969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: x*y = log_n(x*y) = log_n x + log_n y = x+y for all x,y hth < 1475286988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] nope < 1475286988 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] lets you know: haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaands < 1475286988 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475286997 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1475286998 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Happa 5* 10New user account < 1475287145 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, a new user! will it be a real person? < 1475287281 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they don't seem to be trying to edit < 1475287312 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :real or otherwise < 1475287315 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Happa'... < 1475287317 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is suspicious < 1475287323 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lud < 1475287323 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 5m 35s ago: nope < 1475287328 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan OK < 1475287328 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475287337 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1475287337 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] said 8s ago: OK < 1475287338 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :happavalion[1]? < 1475287345 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.xkcd.com/1296/ < 1475287363 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Some people I've known IRL have pronounced hppavilion1 as 'hap pavilion one' < 1475287380 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, the 1 makes an [i] sound, first of all < 1475287462 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475287556 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait, how is it even possible to go without the axiom of choice? < 1475287580 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[AC is] equivalent to the statement that the Cartesian product of a collection of non-empty sets is non-empty." < 1475287581 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475287659 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last time I checked, the cardinality of the union of a collection of nonempty sets is ≥ the cardinality of any of those sets. < 1475287682 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1475287698 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475287711 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you take the Cartesian product of a collection of sets and empty the tuples into a set, I'm pretty sure you get their union < 1475287756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's equivalent to the axiom of choice hth < 1475287761 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is, {('a', 1), ('a', 2), ('a', 3), ('b', 1), ('b', 2), ('b', 3)} -> {'a', 1, 'b', 2, 3}) < 1475287780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, but I don't see any way you can argue with it < 1475287802 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you're assuming there are _any_ tuples in the product to start with. < 1475287883 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it can be proved for a finite number of sets. < 1475287927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to contradict AoC, you need an infinite collection of sets such that you have _no_ way of uniformly selecting an element from one. < 1475287937 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*from each < 1475287943 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1475287968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1475287971 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the individual sets don't have to be infinite, i think.) < 1475288057 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the famous quip: you need the AoC to select one element from each of an infinite set of pairs of socks, but not from an infinite set of pairs of shoes. < 1475288634 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475288650 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PAIR CHICKEN < 1475289070 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s86-Z-CbaHA again, and something is bugging me < 1475289089 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The real numbers in the interval <0 -> 1> are uncountable, correct? < 1475289324 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe I interpreted something e said wrong; I suppose that, perhaps, not all points on the circumference can be expressed as k radians for a finite nonnegative integer k) < 1475289472 0 :zzo38_!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1475289472 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1475289480 0 :zzo38_!?@? NICK :zzo38 < 1475289503 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-dpoiuwzuknpyzruu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475289737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yes < 1475289743 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK... < 1475289757 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Banack-Tarski is giving me a serious bad-math smell < 1475289771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, a you-just-broke-the-rules smell < 1475290042 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-qsojgzzjptkfaygm JOIN :#esoteric < 1475290107 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, is |ℝ × ℝ| = ℝ? Just checking < 1475290130 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1475290239 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think too much about banach tarski, they're just playing with sets where your idea of volume can't be applied < 1475290315 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475291087 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1475291093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is Bierstubë. < 1475291099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I fell asleep for two hours and missed your inlaurdation < 1475291434 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ℝ × ℝ| = ℝ < 1475291437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+211D DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL R] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+00D7 MULTIPLICATION SIGN] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+211D DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL R] [U+007C VERTICAL LINE] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+003D EQUALS SIGN] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+211D DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL R] < 1475291467 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Right, but isn't the point of all this that it's arbitrary? < 1475291480 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's not completely arbitrary, what derivatives am I allowed to use? < 1475291575 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to pick a specific derivative. What constraints do I have? I guess I can say "d is a differentiating operator such that d^2x = 0" < 1475291606 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But thtne what am I allowed to use it on? < 1475291707 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1475291741 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use it on any function that's differentiable enough times in a neighborhood... < 1475292764 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proposal: No more % (percent) (proportion multiplied by 100). Henceforth, all values are expressed in perunit (symbol like percent with short lines parallel to the main line instead of circles) (multiply by nothing because there's no actual reason to) < 1475292878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of %, use ℅ < 1475292960 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :take ℅ something < 1475293027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ℅ < 1475293029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2105 CARE OF] < 1475293075 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, does the order of slices in a pie chart ever matter? Obviously if you make it like that, we all hate you, but does it matter? < 1475293145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And in general, are pie chart slices supposed to scale by area or by curve subtended by angle?) < 1475293228 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I have implemented is by angle. < 1475293406 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Term proposal: Improper Sector < 1475293435 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An improper sector is a sector where the ratio of the central angle to tau radians is greater than 1 < 1475293512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so, for example, a circle that kind of overshoots; so a sector with central angle of 3pi radians, or a sesquicircle; 1.5 circles) < 1475293543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: By angle is most natural, but by area is probably more easy-to-understand to the human eye < 1475293564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I would recommend having both, with angle as the default but area being a permitted mode) < 1475293716 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it might come out the same? < 1475293831 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No, the area of a circular sector with a radius r and angle theta is (theta*r^2)/2 < 1475293943 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the area is proportional to the angle unless you vary the radius (in which case it's not an ordinary pie chart) < 1475293954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah < 1475293955 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The radius is the same for each slice though < 1475293967 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, it does come out the same. < 1475293982 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's either a pielar angle chart or a stupid needlessly stylized pie chart < 1475294006 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm now wondering about elliptical sectors...) < 1475294094 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliptical is tricky, afaiu the correspondence between angle and area isn't even an elementary function... < 1475294124 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm or < 1475294125 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: They are a thing, it looks like; a sector is (theta : angle, radius : distance) < 1475294136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does seem unlikely, actually. < 1475294155 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An elliptical sector is ((theta1 : angle, theta2 : angle), (r1 : distance, r2 : distance)) < 1475294191 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the arc length that's nonelementary, perhaps. < 1475294223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, yes, I don't think there's a good way to calculate the circumference of an ellipse other than infinite series < 1475294229 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once tried to find it < 1475294308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically that would be the case for a circle too, if someone hadn't declared pi, sin and cos etc. to be "easy" < 1475294339 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, pi is at least constant < 1475294367 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but you just try to calculate it without using a series somewhere :P < 1475294425 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, there's probably a generalized minor pi-yielding function (not a minor function that yields pi; a function that yields a minor pi) (not to be confused with the Pi Function that's just gamma(x+1)) that calculates the local value of pi for a proportion of the radii < 1475294432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't even know if we know what it is < 1475294474 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1475294534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a unit elliptical (a unit ellipse is has its x-radius equal to 1 and its y-radius equal to some proportion of its x-radius (which clever people might notice is literally just any real number) sector given by theta1 and theta2 is, basically, the area bounded by a line segment from the origin to the circumference of the ellipse at angle theta1, the same to angle theta2, and the part of the ellipse's circumference between the endpoints < 1475294550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\)/))/ < 1475294584 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION glazes over < 1475294727 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, so an ellipse is a shape given by point (a, b), point (c, d), and distance k that includes all points (x, y) where sqrt((x-a)^2+(y-b)^2) + sqrt((x-c)^2+(y-d)^2) = k < 1475294729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently < 1475294732 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, no you don't < 1475294750 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily Do you keep a backup mapole in the channel when you aren't here? < 1475294750 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475294828 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION licks icing off his fingers < 1475294862 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you have a hyperellipse (ntbcw a superellipse) where there are more than 2 focal points? < 1475294876 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :stahp < 1475294990 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-207-71.as43234.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475294990 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the sum of the distances to the focal point is 2*R (R being max(r1, r2)) < 1475295001 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: I'm sorry : < 1475295002 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1475295018 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This would be easier if we could use pretty math) < 1475295073 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: For any shape there's often multiple useful ways to specify it < 1475295086 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Well yes < 1475295094 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: This was the way relevant to what I was saying < 1475295153 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the "Take two points, an ellipse is the locus you get when the sum of distances to the points is equal to a constant" definition is one of the most common < 1475295163 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also define an ellipse as a stretched circle < 1475295185 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case you have a centre point, a minor radius, and a major radius < 1475295193 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1475295286 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH! I created a symbol for derivatives that made me happy today. You write a special derivative symbol, a number n below it (nth derivative; if you want the 1st derivative then n can be dropped), the variables it's with respect to separated by commas terminated with a colon (if it's just 'all the variables', you can drop this part), then the thing you're derivativing. It took me several hours to realize the special derivative symbol I < 1475295287 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :used was basically just the euro sign xD < 1475295373 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it only had one horizontal stroke though. It might have been something else, really, but I don't remember any other similar-looking symbols. It was intended to look like a capital ε- basically a larger ϵ, I suppose- but not just an E) < 1475295384 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x) = x^2 f€_1(x) = 2x ?? < 1475295390 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Yep, centrepoint is what I use for fonts < 1475295433 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: More like €_1 f(x), but the _1 could be dropped too because it's the default < 1475295443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the colon part is for incomplete derivatives) < 1475295450 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if four points on the circumference are enough to uniquely specify any ellipse < 1475295469 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three definitely aren't enough < 1475295480 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 are < 1475295481 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: It depends on whether any happen to be the same < 1475295489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: 5 are enough for ANY conic section < 1475295493 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1475295499 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is exactly what you meant... < 1475295504 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't go below that < 1475295505 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For 5 I can think of arrangements that don't give a valid ellipse < 1475295517 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: No, you can uniquely specify any circle with 2 points < 1475295532 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if the points lie on the circumference < 1475295536 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: right, but you cannot expect less than 5, still < 1475295546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Ah, yes, forgot about that < 1475295551 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can uniquely determine a circle with 3 points on the circumference < 1475295557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But 3 on the circumference, probably < 1475295558 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because ellipses are like an open subset of all conics < 1475295560 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: by the same reasoning you can specify any ellipse with 3 points < 1475295568 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can uniquely specify any conic section with at MOST 5 points, and that's where it might not be an ellipse < 1475295571 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: How so? < 1475295583 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many points do you need to specify an eclipse? < 1475295586 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :foci + distance < 1475295610 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Earth, moon, sun, several vectors of speed, probably some mass. < 1475295625 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I specifically was thinking of points on the circumference < 1475295637 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, let's consider the vertices of a square < 1475295643 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we fit more than one ellipse to those? < 1475295650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my head the 3 points on the circumference of a circle are arranged in an equilateral triangle; is this enough? < 1475295659 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think four points aren't enough < 1475295668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Yes, one is the other rotated 90 degrees < 1475295689 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: 3 points are enough for a circumference < 1475295689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is equivalent to swapping major and minor ~arcana~ radii) < 1475295694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Yes < 1475295704 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is what I said, I thought < 1475295712 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second time < 1475295714 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't have to be an equilateral triangle < 1475295723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Well yes, but they happened to be internally < 1475295732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if you allow choosing _special_ points on the circle, then obviously 2 are enough. < 1475295734 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could obviously move htem < 1475295740 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, of course < 1475295774 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you allow the point to be anywhere, you can probably do it with 1 < 1475295775 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow < 1475295792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess as |R^3? < 1475295795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(x, y, r) < 1475295833 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, the symbol looks more like Є < 1475295910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1475296001 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475296014 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a circle you just need the diameter < 1475296025 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For an ellipse a diameter and a radius < 1475296075 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1475296108 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: But if you can use arbitrary points that may not even have significance to it, you can do it with a single point in 1D < 1475296144 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That depends on if you're allowed to depend on the point's coordinates < 1475296150 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might not be given coordinates at all < 1475296151 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Ah, yes < 1475296164 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An ellipse centred at (x, y) with radius r (all are real numbers) can be represented by literally just lacing the bits if you have to < 1475296165 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started a new game as france. I created my own alliance with the czechoslovakia, yugoslavia, and romania. < 1475296190 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: But not with Poland? < 1475296202 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :When Germany demanded the sudetenland, I responded by invading the rhineland < 1475296247 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the time hitler had decided to go around the maginot line through belgium I already took franfurt, koln and essen < 1475296288 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I can probably win world war two by 1940 < 1475296346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Why don't you just start the game half a century earlier and kill baby Hitler? < 1475296348 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem solved < 1475296361 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the czechs just took vienna. get rekt hitler < 1475296370 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sure, you still have to deal with WWI...) < 1475296447 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and they took breslau in the north < 1475296470 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 1938 only. germany hasn't done anything with poland yet < 1475296484 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so poland won't join my faction < 1475296679 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Napoleon briefly recreated Poland as its own state back when Poland was partitioned between other countries < 1475296706 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But when the napoleonic wars failed, Poland ended up getting partitioned again < 1475296774 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/GetRektHitler.PNG < 1475296848 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, historically real Poland has had good ties with France < 1475296849 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's that for chease eating surrender monekys!?! < 1475296857 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And horrible luck with Germany and Russia < 1475296899 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :poland isn't even in the war though. hitler hasn't had enough time because I invaded him instead of gving him the sudetenland < 1475296936 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so poland is just chilling, and for some reason he invaded the baltics and annexed them < 1475296983 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so on the side, poland curbstomped latvia and lithuania while I was preparing to invade germnay < 1475297062 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1475297069 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What will you do about Russia? < 1475297137 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea. hopefully I can get turkey or poland in my faction so I can have a wider front than just romania < 1475297175 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's just romania, russia might crush me with sheer numbers of infantry < 1475297332 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a wide front, I can have my cavalry and jeeps run and surround enemy forces quicker than you can say une deux tres < 1475297370 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Yep, 'murica is screwed < 1475297384 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imma start a new political party, I guess. < 1475297452 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :czech forces are untering dresden < 1475297480 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :french forces have reached the coast of the nroth sea < 1475297521 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PART #esoteric : < 1475297543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gary Johnson's position on climate change (I swear, this is 1.0 perunit real): The earth is getting warmer and it's man-made. But the sun will explode in several billion years and destroy the planet anyway, and what's the difference between ending all life on earth in ~200 years vs. several billion? Really? < 1475297796 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gary johnson also doesn't know where aleppo is, and can't name a foreign leader he likes < 1475297830 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even trump can do both those things. admittedly he likes putin, but hey at least it's an answer < 1475297869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yeah < 1475297893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being able to say 'Putin' better than not knowing about Putin < 1475297916 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AA < 1475297921 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1475297955 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, hitler made the molotov ribbentop pact NOW?!?! with french tanks in nuremberg? < 1475297972 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if poland enters the war he's dead for sure < 1475297982 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly, only about 0.001 perunit of Americans knew about Aleppo until that happened, but OTOH, 0.001 perunit of americans are RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT < 1475297997 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Has he started holocausting yet? < 1475298023 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure. < 1475298081 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't model that in the game so you don't feel as much an asshole if you play as hitler < 1475298110 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ...but that's probably the only reason I'd play as Hitler in the first place < 1475298119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, so I can choose who does and doesn't die < 1475298128 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Isn't the point of Hitler that he's an asshole?) < 1475298257 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in itlay I'v taken milan and genoa now. < 1475298310 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and libya is now all mine < 1475298324 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Protip: When siphoning someone else's internet, don't risk them putting a password on their wifi; set the admin password yourself < 1475298328 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go wouth and liberate ethiopia < 1475298424 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speakign of aleppo, france owned aleppo at the time of world war 2 < 1475298438 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with all of syria < 1475298454 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they had kept it none of this bullshit would have happened < 1475298913 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trump elected as president. USA becomes Russia 2 < 1475299052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49833&oldid=49760 5* 03Happa 5* (+289) 10/* Introductions */ < 1475299129 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Happa14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49834 5* 03Happa 5* (+110) 10Created page with "An esoteric language developer. Created: * [[Refunge]] (Some others will be added as I create pages for them)" < 1475299699 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475299710 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: As long as you're in Syria, could you destroy Aleppo? < 1475299949 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fpbixinauznydhmt JOIN :#esoteric < 1475300069 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://arin.ga/wugdyM/raw someone please compile this on their machine and tell me the results < 1475300098 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc rot256.c; ./a.out < /dev/zero 2>/dev/null < 1475300132 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :takes 20s to run on a crappy laptop < 1475300237 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some more Magic: the Gathering cards I made up now is the cycle of five monocolor Elder Wizards: John Whistlet, Xlif Barpy, Margia Hazmaad, Zonak Masp, Garof Asengia. < 1475300342 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there were two sounds that were allophones in ALL known languages, would it even be reasonably possible to tell? < 1475300383 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1475300446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Refunge14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49835 5* 03Happa 5* (+7537) 10First version of the page. < 1475300729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(New Rule: the world 'allophone' is henceforth pronounced [æl ɫoʊ foʊn], making it good for explaining what it is) < 1475300742 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49836&oldid=49778 5* 03Happa 5* (+14) 10 < 1475300856 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Refunge14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49837 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+277) 10Yæ < 1475300897 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wana hear what you guys think < 1475300898 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hastebin.com/raw/gicalepido < 1475300941 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assembly that compiles into brainfuck, designed to be generated from a higher level compiler) < 1475300969 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the sample code i show a working indexable string "type" < 1475300969 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*claps* < 1475301018 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it differentiates itself from existing compilers because it supports (relatively advanced) stack "multiplexing" < 1475301029 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so multiple dynamically sized objects can co-exist < 1475301097 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically everything here can be implemented without hassle https://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_algorithms < 1475301164 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But can it monoplex? < 1475301171 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], yes < 1475301177 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool < 1475301181 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can it nullplex? < 1475301193 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1475301199 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :POP ^S < 1475301202 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fpbixinauznydhmt PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it blend? < 1475301300 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: wait, what the b**** is nullplexing? < 1475301350 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], where the program pops the main stack which causes a singularity that destroys everything < 1475301359 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1475301365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, what's n-plexing exactly? < 1475301378 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(joke) < 1475301398 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :n-plexing would just be multiplexing i guess? < 1475301402 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1475301405 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: No < 1475301406 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :n includes 1 < 1475301413 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it's where multiple signals are merged. Presumably, stack multiplexing is where a bunch of stacks are put together < 1475301474 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: multiplexing includes 1 or any other number; n-plexing is the specific case where you're plexing n signals < 1475301498 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiplexing is n-plexing for arbitrary n (or for a constrained but otherwise-arbitrary n) < 1475301501 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can "push" a group of stacks ontop of another, these stacks are multiplexed together by multiplying the < and > in brainfuck code "seeked" to values on those stacks < 1475301516 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, you can push just 1 stack ontop of another < 1475301534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoplexing is the degenerate case of multiplexing that's basically just having one signal, but in a way that implies it COULD be more than one < 1475301537 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :useless functionality wise < 1475301739 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the magic happens because its all passive to your code, code originally designed to be used on a single stack system (Brainfuck_algorithms) written in this lang can use variables that exist on different stack levels seamlessly < 1475301873 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can copy paste for example a bf self-interpreter and it would just use the stack you put it on as if it were its own tape (assuming it doesn't seek backwards :s) < 1475302103 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In math, there's a theorem called the Squeeze Theorem < 1475302116 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Several other languages call it the Two Policemen and a Drunk theorem. < 1475302121 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're missing out. < 1475302613 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bugs bugs bugs < 1475302617 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i broke stacks somehow < 1475302959 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay they are fixed, because i hate myself i created 5 completely redundant stacks http://pastebin.com/raw/TqNGLkLC < 1475302967 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :code prints "Oii" as expected < 1475302997 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres no reason stackception + 1 shouldnt work < 1475303022 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: In Polish it seems to be "theorem about three trains" < 1475303053 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, MLP:FiM in german is Freundschaft ist Magie. I'll try to find that... < 1475303077 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Oh, three sequences actually < 1475303079 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same word < 1475303097 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Wat? "sequence" and "train" are the same? < 1475303110 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wait, I guess the mathematical word "sequence" was probably taken from "train") < 1475303159 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Actually train is pociąg rather than just ciąg < 1475303168 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So nevermind < 1475303186 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Theorem about three sequences" is a pretty boring name < 1475303198 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually know so little about polish that my knowledge isn't just negative; it's negative AND imaginary. < 1475303227 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, imaginary-split-imaginary) < 1475303246 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: So, you've got fairly complex knowledge of Polish? =P < 1475303273 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: ...what's the joke here? Is it that polish is horrendously complicated? < 1475303281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I need some polish remover...) < 1475303297 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: No, just purely a joke about complex numbers < 1475303304 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooooooh < 1475303307 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, right < 1475303319 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Are we allowed to combine complex and split-complex numbers? < 1475303330 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want to? < 1475303331 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :z = a+bi+cj+dji < 1475303334 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of < 1475303355 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask a mathematician < 1475303362 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i^2 = -1, j^2 = 1, j nin ℝ) < 1475303367 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what do you mean with "find that"? < 1475303398 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: pirate. < 1475303413 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I don't think there's any way to legally obtain it here < 1475303438 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Mix in dual numbers for extra kick < 1475303447 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Considering that. < 1475303461 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Dunno, read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercomplex_number < 1475303478 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: When you have that many parts, you need so many coefficients that you almost use 'i' as a coefficient < 1475303487 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even the DVDs are probably in a different region) < 1475303571 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475303584 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Should be pretty easy to find on the internet < 1475303631 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: yes < 1475303632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a+bi+cj+dε+fij+giε+hjε+kijε < 1475303681 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what we get for abusing the alphabet < 1475303767 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quaternions don't run into this issue, because ij=k, jk=i and ki = j < 1475303943 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I don't understand how that works; what exactly are they? < 1475303980 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: They're all square roots of -1 < 1475303988 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i^2 = j^2 = k^2 = ijk = -1 < 1475304004 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK... < 1475304010 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But DIFFERENT square roots? < 1475304012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1475304015 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1475304022 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, multiplication isn't commutative < 1475304029 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ij = k, ji = -k < 1475304065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: So they do 3D rotations, but what if I want 4D rotations? < 1475304083 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I use the pentenions? < 1475304097 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think pentenions are a thing < 1475304102 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use rotation matrices < 1475304126 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and if real is for 1D and complex describes 2D, but quaternions are for 3D... what are trinions?) < 1475304144 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And what's the pattern? nD is done with 2^(n-1)ions? < 1475304146 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1475304341 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: You don't need complex numbers for 2D rotations, a single real number will do < 1475304353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Wait, what? < 1475304375 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keeping in mind, all rotations are around the origin < 1475304382 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember that you rotate in 2D by using x+yz and multiplying various things < 1475304386 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i super hate myself http://pastebin.com/raw/0YAh76sg < 1475304415 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bar1 bar2 bar3 are level 15 stacks :v < 1475304469 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :full sauce, i fixed some things http://pastebin.com/raw/0yu2GFpD < 1475304477 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Yes, there is a connection between complex multiplication and 2D rotations, but the only important thing in 2D rotations is the angle, and you can encode that in a single real number < 1475304477 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475304488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yes < 1475304575 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, apparently 'OK' translates into german < 1475304655 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1475304661 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Hm, apparently you can represent a 4D rotation using a pair of quaternions < 1475304680 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: So probably equivalent octonions < 1475304688 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or something similar) < 1475304703 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus, my conjecture remains valid < 1475304717 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Client Quit < 1475304829 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Let us have a moment of silence for the poor M-theorists, who have to use millivigintiquaternions < 1475304854 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, a moment of silence on #esoteric is just #esoteric...) < 1475304860 0 :xihinja!~xihinja@128.12.252.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475304886 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I don't think octionions are connected directly to rotations in R^n for some n < 1475304933 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: One thing that connects real numbers, complex numbers, quaternions and octonions together is the Cayley-Dickson construction < 1475304964 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Pair of quaternions. Quaternions have 4 parts, so a pair has 8. I hypothesize that you could equivalently use some 8-dimensional hypercomplex (most likely standard octonions) with identical effect < 1475305033 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point about octonions is them having 8 parts < 1475305046 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayley%E2%80%93Dickson_construction < 1475305048 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pair of quaternions does not < 1475305066 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_algebra contains a link that redirects to itself. < 1475305170 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Which one? < 1475305181 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'alternative' < 1475305209 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, first sentence < 1475305232 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make a comment about it on the talk page or something < 1475305272 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's funny < 1475305470 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1475305478 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'OK, seriously bro, this is the page about it' < 1475305584 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's really fun is that some operators can be self-distributive: a⁂(b⁂c) = (a⁂b)⁂(a⁂c) < 1475306348 0 :xihinja!~xihinja@128.12.252.4 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1475307389 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Do you remember @? < 1475307406 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It really needs a better name...) < 1475307522 0 :OriginalOldMan!18116eea@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.110.234 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475308664 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing where you never fully redefined || correctly? < 1475309408 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yeah, that thing < 1475309558 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(-1)^2 = @, @ != 1, |x| = sqrt(sum([cof(n)^2 for n in components(x))), where components(x) returns the parts as a list (so components (a+bi) = [a, bi]) and cof(n) is just the coefficient of a number- cof(ki) = k < 1475309593 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New keyboard: latin-greek; normal ASCII, BUT it can also type greek letters on the altgr. Good for mathing. < 1475309602 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ASCII/QWERTY/ < 1475309696 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, supposedly, the reason we use QWERTY is that when we used ABCDEF, keys that were used frequently were close by and would be struck in too rapid succession, leading to mechanical errors. But Germany uses QWERTZ; did Germans use German engineering to overcome the mechanics? < 1475309724 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], I presume German has different letter combination frequencies to English < 1475309729 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :French uses AZERTY < 1475309738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes, that too < 1475309834 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qwertz doesn't make much sense imho < 1475309849 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since tz and zu are pretty common < 1475309868 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but neither are ty or yu nor za/zsg... < 1475309997 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in English, re is reasonably common < 1475310089 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah, but i don't get why germans switched y and z in particular < 1475310148 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :combinations with any vowel are reasonably common < 1475310163 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they have to be somewhere < 1475310178 0 :OriginalOldMan!18116eea@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.110.234 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1475310216 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there third-party layouts for other languages? < 1475310227 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know dvorak for english and neo for german < 1475310236 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i am not aware of anything else < 1475310256 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm replaciŋ ðe symbol for esh in ðe Eŋgliʃ Reformed Alphabet from ʃ to σ < 1475310267 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because capital esh is Ʃ < 1475310275 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :notable mentions for neo: arrow keys are on the home row < 1475310281 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is kinda awesome < 1475310291 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but on the other hand, it completely breals hjkl < 1475310458 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: My left and up arrow keys don't work for no apparent reason < 1475311080 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/46ehrFk-gLk?t=37s < 1475311100 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"FACT: The linguist mafia will run you over with a bus if you break your vow of descriptivism" < 1475311535 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wtf < 1475311545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently blond and blonde are different words that carry gender < 1475311570 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1475311623 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475311768 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], it's what we get for stealing everything from the French < 1475311785 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I hæt grammatical gender... < 1475311796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even learning German, I'm kind of tempted to reject it as part of ðe language < 1475311817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I just call everything neuter (Das), people will probably get it and just get used to it < 1475312089 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and will think of you as a weirdo and will probably try staying away from you < 1475312347 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475312421 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yes, but you guys are GERMANS < 1475312443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That basically describes what most Americans think of EVERY german < 1475312454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or Canadian, or Brit, or pretty much anybody, honestly) < 1475312460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wow, we're really pretty isolationist) < 1475312465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway < 1475312495 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: donjt worry the whole world thinks the same about americans < 1475312512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1475312529 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...God. I hate prescriptivism, but I do have to correct people when they use the wrong "the'ir" and "your'e". How do I reconcile this contradiction? < 1475312537 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :murrica < 1475312969 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \f -> p (f x) < 1475312969 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :p . ($ x) < 1475314325 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? octoberlord < 1475314332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1475314337 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :octoberlord? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475314338 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious 4weevil bulgarian quack octoberlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture computation. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl and passion fruit. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1475314348 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1475314350 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is Bierstubë. < 1475314362 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch. < 1475318280 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475319501 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Theorem: There are countably many possible gods (not in the sense of "exists" but in the sense of "yeah, I guess you could make that a religion or something") < 1475319603 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proof: Each god can described by a finite series of symbols taken from a finite alphabet (in fact, they can be described by several- probably countably many- of these). Sure, most combinations are meaningless, but we'll just ignore those. < 1475319796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The gods can be trivially mapped surjectively to the natural numbers by taking a holy book describing them, ordering the alphabet (A), and- starting with n=1- for each symbol indexed in A by c, multiplying n by c*|A|^k for each symbol in the book at index k (basically, I'm just using base-whatever) < 1475319804 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q.E.D. < 1475320034 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475320132 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hm, I want to see calligraphic mathematics...) < 1475320212 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The general idea of your proof is obvious to anyone who knows enough to understand it. < 1475320223 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for the first sentence, which is an unfounded assumption. < 1475320256 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-207-71.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475320715 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What branch of Philosophy covers humor? The best I can think of is Aesthetics, but I wouldn't exactly call a Priest and a Rabbi walking into a bar 'beautiful' < 1475321327 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fpbixinauznydhmt QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1475321775 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you put that in philosophy in the first place? < 1475322184 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you ever read snow crash? < 1475322294 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475322503 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475322868 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475322891 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475323052 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475323861 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475323879 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factorial is to subfactorial as triangle numbers are to what? < 1475323888 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtriangles < 1475323954 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: go read snow crash < 1475323968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ...why? < 1475323979 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Yes, but... what do subtriangles even describe? < 1475323985 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of the basic books for computer scientists < 1475323989 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1475323997 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :together with douglas adams trilogy < 1475324015 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trilogy? I seem to remember there being 5, plus the salmon of doubt < 1475324020 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of which I own all of them < 1475324028 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :also called the trilogy in 5 parts < 1475324035 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sure, that works < 1475324058 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x triangltorial is the sum of all integers from 0 to x, which is equal to x(x-1)/2 < 1475324062 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in german it's often called "vierteilige trilogie in 5 bänden" < 1475324085 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, 4 parts of a trilogy in 5 books < 1475324130 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In English there's the "fifth book in the increasingly inaccurately named Hitchhikers Trilogy" < 1475324163 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1475324230 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And apparently also "A trilogy in four parts". < 1475324242 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A formula exists that subfact(x) = fact(x) * summ(0, x, lambda n: (-1)^n/fact(n)) < 1475324272 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would subgamma (generalized subfactorial the same way gamma is generalized factorial) be the same, but s/fact/gamma/? < 1475324381 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're still not reading snow crash < 1475324421 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Not yet < 1475324430 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it's available for free online, no < 1475324441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 11:20. I'm not going to go buy a book. < 1475324449 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, depends on where you look for it < 1475324455 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(11:20 UTC; I'm @ UTC-9) < 1475324457 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't give hppavilion[1] interesting things to read; I might have to unignore him... < 1475324465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1475324483 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is int-e ignoring me? < 1475324486 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: lol < 1475324502 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you seem to know that book < 1475324510 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475324510 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :nothppavilion < 1475324538 0 :nothppavilion!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: mwahahahaha < 1475324574 0 :nothppavilion!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no, really, am I (a) on ignore and (b) why and (c) your client ignores hostnames, doesn't it? < 1475324613 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So as I was saying < 1475324616 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair, you spam a lot < 1475324631 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Not spam; incoherently babble < 1475324640 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you make it intentionally harder to communicate with you < 1475324646 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally different, much more annoying < 1475324648 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: When? < 1475324707 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like when yountry to make your own alphabet < 1475324733 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I don't use ERA in #esoteric at the request of people whose clients don't like unicode < 1475324760 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did like in the last 24 hours at least < 1475324761 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use it literally everywhere else though, and an eth occasionally manages to slip out < 1475324831 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why people don't hate you elsewhere < 1475324838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because eths are literally everywhere when writing; "the", "this", "that", "there", "they", "them", etc. < 1475324841 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I've not read Snow Crash, I believe. < 1475324843 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475324843 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who says they don't? < 1475324858 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: do it < 1475324896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e = summ(0, inf, λ n -> 1/n!) < 1475324904 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/n!/fact(n)/ < 1475324960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :u = summ(0, inf, λ n -> 1/subfact(n), λ n -> n ≠ 1) < 1475324979 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I wonder if the sum of reciprocal triangle numbers is significant) < 1475325088 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I probably have read it, but I remember very little about it. < 1475325192 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe all the memes taken over by Daniel Suarez' Daemon series (there's some thematic overlap). < 1475325240 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...the limit of the reciprocal triangular sum is 2 < 1475325253 0 :nothppavilion!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475325382 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there's Gibson (Neuromancer) < 1475325856 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MarioLANG14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49838&oldid=39253 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (+39) 10 < 1475325884 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, ((positive) integer) powers are closely related to n-cubes < 1475325914 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want the same, but for n-tetrahedrons < 1475325957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mainly so, while you can say "x squared" for x to the power 2, you can say "x triangled" for x to the whatever-this-is 2 < 1475326026 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, that felt weird. Python's pip thing used a progress bar that went all ▏ ▎ ▍ ▌ ▋ ▊ ▉ █ smoothly. < 1475326087 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475326451 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Swordfish14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49839 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (+223) 10Created page with "This is tagged as Implemented, but I can't seem to be able to find an implementation. Is an interpreter available somewhere? --~~~~" < 1475326527 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475326602 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Client Quit < 1475326694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 8th 5-tetrahedral number is 792. < 1475326695 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am god < 1475326840 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are not < 1475326873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: shhhhhh < 1475326881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the feeling you get when you use computers < 1475327288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Golden Triangle Number is 2.118033988749895 < 1475327297 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no relation to the golden triangle) < 1475327300 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably) < 1475327453 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would make a great hippie... < 1475328396 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1475328711 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475328953 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475328961 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfjoust//bfjoust is a spamming tool for #esoteric. < 1475329330 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1475329331 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] asked 9h 36m 20s ago: Do you keep a backup mapole in the channel when you aren't here? < 1475329362 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]! no, but that's a good idea! < 1475329369 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1475329378 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to whom shall I entrust my trusty mapole? < 1475329380 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put it over by the hat rack. < 1475329388 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, we need a hat rack. < 1475329405 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can mapoles be used as hat racks? < 1475329416 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do anything with a mapole. < 1475329438 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish https://xkcd.com/136/ was real... I would read that paper. < 1475329554 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to wikipedia: "A person who performs cunnilingus may be referred to as a cunnilinguist." < 1475329566 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a field called cunnilinguistics? < 1475329678 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cunniproto-indo-european < 1475329689 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would that imply making sounds while you're performing? < 1475329841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1475330356 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that quote is genius < 1475330538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475330722 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475331267 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475331943 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3 / 5 + pi / (7 - pi) < 1475331945 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.4142200580539208 < 1475332020 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why? < 1475332331 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no fungotting idea. < 1475332332 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: e333 you can't manage that, the `next' act too much like `come from' and/ or modify this document under the gnu autoconf ( configure); its autoconf source code), and one of them may be a clue that you don't put it? < 1475332492 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: package resent yesterday < 1475332498 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have tracking < 1475332854 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may approximate pi by 3+(3/5+pi/(7-pi))/10 < 1475333148 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn amphiboily/Franglish grammatical hambiguity, rewarded with a mapole < 1475333151 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «amphiboily» < 1475333351 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-207-71.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1475333402 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-207-71.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475333487 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'avait a girl from Gatineau deux nuits que j'était en vacation. Probablement le code switch le plus mind bending que j'ai jamais entendu. < 1475333572 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :En plus qu'elle teachait l'anglais in Korea, et qu'elle translatait du coréen en cantonese au monde à l'auberge. < 1475335465 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475335842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475339160 0 :incog!stillfree@unaffiliated/incog JOIN :#esoteric < 1475339362 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Conor O'Brien14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49840&oldid=49028 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+27) 10/* Languages I have made */ < 1475340944 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-bzltcmtplcsmypmf QUIT :Excess Flood < 1475341100 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: OBVERSE CHICKEN < 1475343997 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_algebra contains a link that redirects to itself. <-- someone back in 2014 did a faulty merge, presumably because they didn't understand that "algebra" has several meanings. i fixed it. < 1475343997 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] lets you know: haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaands < 1475343997 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475344026 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: any chance of removing that stupid feature < 1475344116 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: (the lambdabot lines contain a nick you're ignoring, in case you're confused) < 1475344246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] also if you want any more @tells, remove that stupid response twh < 1475344246 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] lets you know: haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaands < 1475344246 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475345408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? amphiboily < 1475345413 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Franglish grammatical hambiguity, rewarded with a mapole < 1475345438 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd amphiboily//s/F/Amphiboily is F/ < 1475345439 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/amphiboily//Amphiboily is Franglish grammatical hambiguity, rewarded with a mapole < 1475345467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd amphiboily//s/$/./ < 1475345470 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/amphiboily//Amphiboily is Franglish grammatical hambiguity, rewarded with a mapole. < 1475346149 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475346319 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :K-Lined < 1475346327 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475346455 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: probably won't remove it; it's actually working as intended: it allows people to let other people know that they don't want @tell messages < 1475346498 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I forgot who requested it though, and I wouldn't go out of my way to advertise the feature) < 1475346552 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, I finally got a Nikoli competition puzzle right in the first attempt. I failed to do that for the two previous ones... < 1475346570 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats -> < 1475346577 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1475347498 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07RubE On Conveyor Belts14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49841&oldid=44824 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (+40) 10 < 1475347506 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think goto command ought to be added into JavaScript and a few others of the good feature from C, which also has macro preprocessor and setjmp/longjmp. Although, in JavaScript it could be made a better way than the C way. < 1475347564 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With sufficiently general macros, call/cc could be implemented in strict mode. < 1475347623 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much of the JavaScript state would be "inside" the continuation, and how much would be global? < 1475347752 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local variables might be inside, if it is declared inside of a continuation function, otherwise it isn't. < 1475347773 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would have to declare individual functions as continuation functions if it were to be implemented entirely with macros. < 1475347813 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Minkolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49842&oldid=44756 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (+66) 10 < 1475347831 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But you could also make some local variables "outside" of the continuation if you wanted to, as well; depending how it is implemented) < 1475349259 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475349360 0 :sirnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1475349496 0 :sirnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475349572 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475349614 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 TOPIC #esoteric :The Everchanging Topic | This counter has been incremented seven times | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf" < 1475349674 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-qsojgzzjptkfaygm QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475349768 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-dxczjvapcnfyljxf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475350016 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475350222 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475350963 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg5ige6pxj4aprx.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475351684 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you think a multiplayer mode for a df like should work? all i can figure out is something like a time terminated 1vs1 or the like < 1475351782 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475352826 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475352963 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Cubix14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49843 5* 03ETHproductions 5* (+4580) 10Created page with "'''Cubix''' is a stack-based 2-dimensional language where the code is wrapped around a cube. == Overview == Cubix was inspired by [[Labyrinth]] and [[Hexagony]], both stack-..." < 1475353267 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:ETHproductions14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49844 5* 03ETHproductions 5* (+343) 10Added user page for ETHproductions < 1475353337 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49845&oldid=49836 5* 03ETHproductions 5* (+12) 10Added Cubix to language list < 1475353954 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nplfznvakenpijyh JOIN :#esoteric < 1475354006 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently tail calls are not yet implemented in Node.js < 1475354160 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"return f();" is an error? < 1475354271 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was it who was asking about the cost of finding the set of strings that are within a certain levdnshtein distance? < 1475354275 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it is valid, but it is not implemented as a tail call. < 1475354297 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program will do the correct thing but it is not as efficient as it should be. < 1475354331 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And in some cases may result in a stack overflow if tail calls are not implemented.) < 1475354334 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this algorithm has a much faster average case: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-best-programming-algorithm-that-you-have-ever-created/answer/Leo-Polovets?srid=i3Gd&share=82807028 < 1475355373 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-207-71.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1475355410 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-207-71.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475355988 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xtjcdrazgymjinuj JOIN :#esoteric < 1475356021 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@c-73-221-134-56.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475356258 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1475356302 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@c-73-221-134-56.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475356361 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475356539 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475356753 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellais523 < 1475356761 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1475356784 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats your ale of choice < 1475356942 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't drink alcohol; I don't like the taste < 1475356951 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION too. < 1475356964 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I realised this after trying both alcoholic and non-alcoholic wine and preferring the non-alcoholic wine) < 1475357048 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if that's a valid comparison, I'm sure there could be other differences between the wines in question. < 1475357097 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1475357362 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is non-alcoholic wine grape juice? < 1475357375 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose not. < 1475357413 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try non-alcoholic wine. < 1475357423 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1475357571 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the alcohol is removed after fermentation... in particular most of the sugar will still be gone < 1475357650 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://winefolly.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/non-alcoholic-wine-reverse-osmosis.png looks plausible < 1475357838 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they say "goto" is not a reserved word in JavaScript anymore and therefore you can't add a goto statement, but I think it is not a problem as long as it doesn't accept a computed goto and there is no line break between the word "goto" and the name of the label to go to. If it is a problem though, you could use the keyword "->" instead perhaps. < 1475358240 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475358280 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats too bad < 1475358293 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wine != ale < 1475358415 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1475358752 0 :jeffl35!?@? NICK :GNU\jeffl35 < 1475358985 0 :GNU\jeffl35!?@? NICK :jeffl35 < 1475359080 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the idea about making macros in JavaScript, which would involve some new kind of syntax: \{ ... } executes statements in a macro context, \( ... ) executes an expression in a macro context (the value of the expression is expected to be either a string or a AST object), (| ... |) makes a expression AST object, {| ... |} makes a statement AST object. Do you like this? < 1475359396 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is somewhat like Template Haskell.) < 1475360041 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if APic says more than one word at a time < 1475360053 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Idea. < 1475360076 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. three whole syllables < 1475360085 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a pb < 1475360106 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Playmate? < 1475360147 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :personal best < 1475360205 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1475360359 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do? < 1475360481 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? APic < 1475360489 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475360571 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i pog5rammed a pic once < 1475360579 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmed < 1475360584 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking "a picture", but it must be wrong: A picture says more than a thousand words. < 1475360622 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: 🙌 < 1475360623 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking programmable integrated circuit < 1475360637 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever PIC stands for < 1475360645 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: APIC = advanced programmable interrupt controller < 1475360682 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmable interface controller < 1475360694 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1475360697 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1475360700 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank You. < 1475360703 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pesky interrupting cohort. < 1475360707 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1475360713 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :peripheral interface controller < 1475360719 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1475360729 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIC_microcontroller < 1475360731 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :people can't memorize computer industry acronyms < 1475360734 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good old Times. ☺ < 1475360749 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: True. < 1475360752 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :39 < 1475360780 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :more emoji pls < 1475360797 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: quite old joke :) < 1475360801 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: because there are so many of them and with contradictory expansions. < 1475360829 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475360838 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e i didnt notice the pcmcia until you said ir was a joke < 1475360850 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what was it, PC memory card industry association?) < 1475360851 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pcmica < 1475360866 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pmiaca < 1475360874 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :campia < 1475360875 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, international. close though. < 1475360877 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats it < 1475360904 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pcpcpcpca < 1475360932 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am making program to save JavaScript objects into a file and then to be able to load them from a file. < 1475360950 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@c-73-221-134-56.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475360954 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you find json insufficient? < 1475360981 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :JSON can work for some things. < 1475361001 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can convert anything into those some things < 1475361003 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, JSON cannot store all JavaScript values; for example it cannot store multiple references to the same object. < 1475361017 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is also inefficient when using ArrayBuffers. < 1475361040 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1475361053 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475361072 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are your plans for security < 1475361102 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program I am making uses a binary file format rather than text, so names of keys do not need to be repeated. Also it can contain references to objects and symbols from outside. < 1475361155 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want security you can omit the external types you don't want. Note that functions cannot be serialized in this format, anyways. So there are still some limitations; but it can encode a lot more than JSON. < 1475361278 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: encycle.js or some such by Crockford iirc has ibid refs for internal references in object graphs serialized to JSON < 1475361316 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, but I am making my own now anyways. I wrote half of it already. < 1475361409 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, my program is not pure JavaScript and requires Node.js) < 1475361422 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: external types? are those like the module and class names in pickling in python? < 1475361460 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ < 1475361487 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about pickling. External type in my program is what you can associate an object with a function, and when it tries to serialize an object with that prototype it will emit a header and then call the named function in order to do so. < 1475361515 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in that way you can serialize objects that have internal slots. < 1475361556 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh so like an unevaler in http://wiki.erights.org/wiki/Safe_Serialization_Under_Mutual_Suspicion then? < 1475361577 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or, if you have some global variable in your program which needs to keep track of all objects of a specified type, for some reason.) < 1475361588 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what is in this header? the name of the function? < 1475361609 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And a further use of this is to encode the object more efficiently.) < 1475361638 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: No; it is a number that identifies the function. You must define the same external objects/symbols and external types for writing as you do for reading. < 1475361739 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I see, so you are stepping around the 'run this arbritrary chosen (by name) function to deserialize this object' by using that num2extobjtype scheme < 1475361757 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1475361762 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: which means that one can implement graph exits in your format easily < 1475361923 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for the cases where you want a serialize an object graph where some objects are pointing to unserializable objects whose replacements will exists at deserialization time.) < 1475361929 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, the implementation of this serializer does not even know the names of any functions; it only associates each of the objects defined as an external type with a number and a function. It can then read it either by number or by object as the key. Storing a number also will make the file smaller than storing the name of the function anyways, and the function might not even have a name; nor does it necessarily have access to the correct context e < 1475361941 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Yes, you can do that. < 1475361998 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: got any documentation on this format yet? < 1475362051 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not published; I only have it hand-written in a book. I will publish on computer once this program is published, though. < 1475362083 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@c-73-221-134-56.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475362185 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: got a smartphone handy with a camera? I am rather curious how this format looks < 1475362217 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't any; sorry. < 1475362309 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its okay < 1475362324 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows you finish what you start < 1475362325 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can wait until it is published and then you can read it. < 1475362383 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: why do you think I am asking for pictures, eh? < 1475362414 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz ur rude? < 1475362479 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475362524 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that too. < 1475362959 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg5ige6pxj4aprx.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1475363025 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475363646 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475363863 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: so, I am asking you this: putting obsticales such as ASLR and others of the same kind is increasing computer security in your eyes? < 1475363912 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: a rude probing question but should be (thought) provoking, no? < 1475363933 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASLR meaning what? < 1475363987 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Address Space Layout Randomization < 1475364010 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1475364054 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475364115 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is just complicating stuff, and that other methods can be used for memory protection. < 1475364168 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :An option to randomize addresses for a compiled program in a compiler can help with finding errors though. < 1475364247 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an inaffective bandaid on the festering fleshwound that is due to idotic choices made way way back in the day. < 1475364284 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why does randomizing addresses for a compiled progam held with finding errors? < 1475364299 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/held/help/ < 1475364378 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To see if something incorrectly accesses a wrong address by using invalid array indexing or whatever (although there are other ways to do this too, but these other ways might cause the program to run more slowly). However, such option should be used only during testing. < 1475364380 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw next level in 'fuzzing' is probably something like adaptive markov-chain-generated fuzzing. < 1475364469 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(eliminate those fuzzes that are caught early by the program until you basically are banging against the edge cases) < 1475364477 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the "Future Systems" 128-bit processor might be capable of detecting invalid pointers though. < 1475364519 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: not so much future as being an sparse capability system in disguise, I would think. < 1475365089 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475365127 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xtjcdrazgymjinuj QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1475365223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475365406 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Analogy clause of the day: minority:majority::?:plurality < 1475365413 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475365582 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475365782 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The Everchanging Topic | This counter has been incremented seven times | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1475365821 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera TOPIC #esoteric :The Neverchanging Topic | This counter has been incremented seven times | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1475365882 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1475365908 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: i dont know < 1475365935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope that " wasn't supposed to be there. < 1475365947 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintophia < 1475366004 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know any good site for downloading anime subs? < 1475366006 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :only the subs < 1475366010 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have the anime < 1475366029 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-screamed < 1475366029 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1475366034 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-proud < 1475366034 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 6h 7m 17s ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_algebra contains a link that redirects to itself. <-- someone back in 2014 did a faulty merge, presumably because < 1475366034 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't understand that "algebra" has several meanings. i fixed it. < 1475366034 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 6h 3m 7s ago: also if you want any more @tells, remove that stupid response twh < 1475366061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-auto-reply < 1475366061 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Auto-reply message cleared. < 1475366067 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you. < 1475366076 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The Neverchanging Topic | This counter has been incremented sevence | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1475366282 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh "count" and "compute" are cognates. < 1475366292 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ...what's cognate? < 1475366308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn cognate < 1475366309 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh < 1475366310 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "cognate" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1475366310 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :cognate < 1475366310 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: related in nature; "connate qualities" [syn: {connate}, < 1475366310 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {cognate}] < 1475366310 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: having the same ancestral language; "cognate languages" < 1475366312 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[8 @more lines] < 1475366318 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Common etymological origin < 1475366320 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...cool? < 1475366413 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1475366413 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3: related by blood [syn: {akin(p)}, {blood-related}, {cognate}, < 1475366413 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {consanguine}, {consanguineous}, {consanguineal}, {kin(p)}] < 1475366413 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: one related by blood or origin; especially on sharing an < 1475366413 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ancestor with another [syn: {blood relation}, {blood < 1475366413 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : relative}, {cognate}, {sib}] < 1475366415 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[3 @more lines] < 1475366418 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1475366418 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: a word is cognate with another if both derive from the same < 1475366419 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : word in an ancestral language [syn: {cognate}, {cognate < 1475366421 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : word}] < 1475366471 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475366568 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb ais523 < 1475366837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@moar < 1475366837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: his1315 < 1475366837 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: more metar < 1475366897 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@le/rn moar/more < 1475366897 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://wiki.haskell.org/Learning_Haskell < 1475366902 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait. < 1475366930 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather < 1475366932 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK < 1475366936 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 012300Z 13011KT 15SM BKN064 BKN110 OVC240 15/11 A3021 RMK SC5AC2CI1 SLP231 \ ENVA 012250Z 29007KT 8000 -RADZ FEW016 BKN029 07/05 Q1012 RMK WIND 670FT 29007KT \ ESSB 012250Z AUTO 00000KT 9999 < 1475366936 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :NCD 05/05 Q1011 \ KOAK 012253Z 28016KT 10SM FEW012 21/11 A3006 RMK AO2 SLP180 T02110111 < 1475367156 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isnt KATL on the list < 1475367322 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just came to the conclusion that watching anime in 1080p is better than watching it in crappy quality < 1475367326 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took a while < 1475367669 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475367901 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475368026 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475368337 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475369130 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475369525 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: minority:majoity::singularity:plurality < 1475369677 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Too tired < 1475371056 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475372182 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had idea about a new selection for use with X called MEDIA_PLAYER and it is intended that a program that plays music or something else might own it (the user should be allowed to change whether or not they do, though; in case they are running more than one). Many (but not all) of the standard selection targets of ICCCM can be used with it, although additional targets can be defined to tell it to play, pause, rewind, next track, eject, etc. < 1475372533 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't understand what you said. But that's probably fine. < 1475372547 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's late in the night, I wouldn't understand it even if it made sense. < 1475372554 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, can you jump in? < 1475372554 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: intercal-72 c-intercal clc-intercal j-intercal yes all versions all versions all versions no all versions all versions < 1475372612 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote TIMES < 1475372622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :33) [...] sometimes i cant get out of bed becasue the geometry of the sheet tangle is too fascinating from a topological perspective \ 59) i use dynamic indentation, i indent lines k times, if they are used O(n^k) times during a run of the program \ 109) CakeProphet: reading herbert might be enlightening in one hand h < 1475372630 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote INVISIBLE TIMES < 1475372632 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :997) "May you live in INVISIBLE TIMES." --Old Chinese proverb. (It can look confusing when written with the proper Unicode.) < 1475372647 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :May you live in CIRCLED TIMES. < 1475373026 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1475373205 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :WATCH and UNWATCH targets could also be implemented in case a program is being used which will notify using Twitter or other internet services what music the user is listening to, or if the status bar will display the currently playing music. < 1475373278 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many other things that can be done with it too. < 1475373333 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you know how to tell whether d^2x = 0? < 1475373381 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No (but I didn't think about it now) < 1475373407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did you think about it? < 1475373426 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember < 1475374043 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1475374220 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One way that was used to implement private properties in JavaScript is to make them local variables of the constructor function (and define the methods that use them in the constructor instead of the prototype), and that still can be used. But now there is also the new way which is by using WeakMap; in this way the property can even belong to a different module than who created the object. You can also create anonymous public properties of objects. < 1475374283 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure how useful anonymous public properties are, but it is a possibility. Maybe you know about the uses of such? < 1475374886 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYOtZvwNCsc < 1475375722 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475375914 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How often have you seen "throw" in JavaScript (or possibly, other programming languages too) used for something other than in case of errors? < 1475377122 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475377436 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I have seen it used as a multi-loop break < 1475377614 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is one thing; I have used it as a multi recursive function break (for searching in a tree structure). How common is it though? < 1475377629 0 :incog!stillfree@unaffiliated/incog QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475378208 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-207-71.as43234.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475378470 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475379307 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475379513 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1475379670 0 :callforjudgement!?@? NICK :ais523 < 1475379862 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475380306 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475381537 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475381893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475381949 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question: Would it be incorrect to refer to the British liberal party as "Labor" in the US? < 1475381957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Answer: Probably yes) < 1475382353 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by "liberal" here? < 1475382354 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Mazda3-pi.jpg < 1475382382 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you talking about the current opposition party Labour? the Liberal Democrats, who have Liberal in their name? parties generically on the left wing, and if so compared to which country? < 1475382405 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all our even remotely major parties are left wing compared to the US centre, except possibly UKIP < 1475382937 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This house has 2.5 baths (house has 5 rooms with a toilet and sink))" < 1475383029 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475383364 0 :Menphis!~textual@213.250.174.215 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475384592 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475384729 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475385069 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: What would you say the individual entries in a matrix represent? < 1475385894 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475385964 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475388319 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what matrix? < 1475388337 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A matrix representing a linear transformation : R^n -> R^m < 1475388670 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Okay, so first of all, the columns of the matrix tell you where each of the basis vectors get sent < 1475388694 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the basis vectors of the domain of course) < 1475388702 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and each column tells you the coefficients with respect to the basis of the codomain < 1475388719 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I would have said was that, for T : U -> V, you choose a basis for U and V. Then you look at Tu for each u in u, and decompose it in terms of V. < 1475388732 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1475388734 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A linear combination of vectors in V.) < 1475388749 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for each u in the basis for U < 1475388757 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, yes. < 1475388774 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and each such decomposition gives a column < 1475388778 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since every vector in U is a linear combination of the vectors in the basis for U, that tells you how T transforms every vector. < 1475388782 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1475388824 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So an individual entry is one V-basis-projection of one U-basis-vector under T. < 1475388828 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that. < 1475388866 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the other day someone was saying that the individual entries actually represent linear maps : F -> F, not elements of F. < 1475388890 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, well, it's possible to look at it like that < 1475388900 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have T : U -> V where U and V are finite-dimensional vector spaces over F, then you have U = F+F+...+F, V = FxFx...xF < 1475388944 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since Hom(A+B, CxD) is in natural isomorphism with Hom(A, C)xHom(A, D)xHom(B, C)xHom(B, D), those are the individual entries in the matrix. < 1475388948 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you can look at it as a block matrix made up of 1x1 blocks :P < 1475388964 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, so I should understand block matrices better probably. < 1475389025 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475389039 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example maybe you'd expect det([A B][C D]) to be det(A)det(D) - det(B)det(C), but that sort of thing doesn't work. < 1475389048 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One day I invented "matrix accounting" < 1475389065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 Oh, I meant Labour < 1475389065 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475389163 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Anyway, is it a choice of bases for U and V, or for U* and V? < 1475389196 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that T is contravariant in U. < 1475389204 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is quite a different use of matrix mathematics although involving much of the same mathematics involved including such things as orthogonal vectors and homogeneous coordinates and so on. < 1475389218 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can presumably say that T behaves the same as U* ⊗ V? < 1475389233 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I thought it was just a typical use. < 1475389307 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yeah, it's really V ⊗ U* < 1475389333 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe it doesn't matter whether you choose a basis for U or U*, since if you have a basis you can go back and forth? < 1475389335 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you put the U* on that side, it'll make things nice when you write the formula for application) < 1475389345 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, in finite dimensions < 1475389382 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The mathematics are same but it is a different use than geometry or physics; it is now for accounting (I invented it sort of by accident while trying to invent something else, because I had nothing else to do in school). < 1475389443 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Formula for application? < 1475389703 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what is "formula for application" either < 1475390043 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, when you write the linear transformation as a sum of pure tensor products < 1475390296 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If {b_1,...,b_n} is a basis of U and {f_1,...,f_n} is the corresponding basis for U*, and {c_1,...,c_m} is a basis for V, then you might write an arbitrary linear transformation T as sum over i, j of a_ij c_i ⊗ f_j < 1475390541 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then (sum over i,j of a_ij c_i ⊗ f_j)*(sum over k of u_k b_k) = sum over i,j,k of a_ij c_i u_k f_j(b_k), and f_j(b_k) is 0 whenever j /= k, so we get sum over i,j of a_ij u_j c_i < 1475390560 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's just nice somehow that the linear functional bumps up against the vector it's getting applied to :) < 1475390706 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that sometimes people write some of those subscripts as superscripts? < 1475391083 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475391805 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@c-50-132-6-164.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475392764 0 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475392863 0 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@c-50-132-6-164.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475392883 0 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@linux-stakaya1.xn--cdaan2d.be QUIT :Client Quit < 1475394882 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475395528 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475396397 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475396556 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475398686 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475399182 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475399227 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost finished writing the documentation for my JavaScript serializer program and for its file format, and I will post it tomorrow. (The code is finish but need tested) < 1475400229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475400716 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg5blsgznxnzacw.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475400962 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do people get excited over having a bright future ahead of them? For most of them that happens EVERY SINGLE NIGHT! < 1475401663 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475401842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf I guess that sometimes people write some of those subscripts as superscripts? <-- look up einstein notation hth < 1475401842 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475401863 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@passages-loud < 1475401863 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 21s ago: I guess that sometimes people write some of those subscripts as superscripts? <-- look up einstein notation hth < 1475401880 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that notation is scow hth < 1475401917 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry but it was invented by einstein so it is clearly brilliant hth < 1475402044 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric :The cargo cultivating channel | This counter has been incremented sevence and decremented once | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1475402063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1475402118 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little multiplication now, and we can no longer deduce its value < 1475402246 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what its initial value was, I'm assuming 42. < 1475402255 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, true < 1475402312 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What is the chance that a person wondering about a counter's initial value is a programmer?) < 1475402331 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_Whom_the_Bell_Tolls_(disambiguation) links to songs by both the Bee Gees AND Metallica < 1475402335 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a strange world we live in < 1475402669 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The cargo cultivating channel | This counter has been incremented snyevence and decremented once | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1475402690 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(snyeven: written as a 7 with a tilde above it.) < 1475402790 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The cargo cultivating channel | This counter has been incremented scowvence and decremented once | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1475402910 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet imaginary numbers! < 1475403333 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: No, snyeven squared is just fnyorty nyine. < 1475403666 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( is hppavilion[1] an imaginary person ) < 1475403709 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nyes < 1475403776 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :207̃012. That's what I'm looking for < 1475403787 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 207̃012, the earth is ruled by the Time Baby < 1475403963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf TOPIC #esoteric :The cargo cultivating channel | This counter has been incremented zero times, decremented zero times, and reset once | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1475403987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I didn't reset it properly. < 1475404004 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf TOPIC #esoteric :The cargo cultivating channel | This counter has never been incremented, decremented, or reset | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1475404076 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, reset is accounted for after the variables are cleared < 1475404087 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's always 'reset once' < 1475404097 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously not hth < 1475404137 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The cargo cultivating channel | This counter has been divided by zero | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1475404260 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( This counter has been ) < 1475404307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( This counter is pining for the fjords ) < 1475404382 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope you're not going to parrot that whole skit. < 1475404459 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Mike the Headless Counter ) < 1475404591 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( I guess this Norwegian blue it ) < 1475404774 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf TOPIC #esoteric :The cargo cultivating channel | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1475404788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/quit Nite < 1475406030 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475406436 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_index_notation < 1475406436 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475406739 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not kThis has a counter" < 1475406747 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it vague < 1475406783 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/k/"/ < 1475406788 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck longpress < 1475408632 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475410440 0 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475410461 0 :atehwa!~atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475410657 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-207-71.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475411009 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475414821 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475415439 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475416758 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-207-71.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475417431 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475417465 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1475422362 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475422391 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bood afternoily < 1475422552 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1475423176 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon matørjan! < 1475423184 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome wanderman < 1475423198 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1475423206 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-byinzggkeviklrib PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Black on blue is difficult to read, and thus means it's a terrible choice for a heading. :P < 1475423219 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04wanderman: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1475423237 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1475423243 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of eso langauge before < 1475423993 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-207-71.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475424766 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Orthagonal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49846&oldid=22619 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (+127) 10/* External resources */ < 1475425970 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475425975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and//And is an Intercal operator. < 1475426077 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits and < 1475426090 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie evilipse b_jonas b_jonas < 1475426159 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd and//s/op/unary op/ < 1475426165 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/and//And is an Intercal unary operator. < 1475426206 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? or < 1475426209 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is an Intercal operator. < 1475426221 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd or//s/op/unary op/ < 1475426225 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/or//Or is an Intercal unary operator. < 1475426225 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? xor < 1475426228 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xor? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475426327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Xor is just addition of nimbers. < 1475426331 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'xor': Xor is just addition of nimbers. < 1475426646 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman PRIVMSG #esoteric :'? love < 1475426652 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? love < 1475426653 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me no more < 1475426677 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hurt < 1475426680 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurt? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475426724 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman PRIVMSG #esoteric :'? compuer < 1475426727 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman PRIVMSG #esoteric :` computer < 1475426727 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1475426743 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? computer < 1475426744 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computer is a language where numbers are strings of the characters '1' and '0'. < 1475426759 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits computer < 1475426769 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie evilipse oerjan oerjan < 1475426783 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why did i add that... < 1475426785 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman PRIVMSG #esoteric :what cwlprit mean ? oerjan < 1475426788 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1475426800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`howg computer < 1475426806 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ revert 942e964c81c1 \ ` chmod 777 / -R \ learn Computer is a language where numbers are strings of the characters \'1\' and \'0\'. \ learn Computer is a language where numbers are strings of the charatcers \'1\' and \'0\' < 1475426808 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanderman: it tells who has edited it < 1475426817 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1475426825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh i actually did add it. < 1475426834 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg computer < 1475426840 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-09-25 revert 942e964c81c1 \ 2016-09-25 ` chmod 777 / -R \ 2016-03-08 learn Computer is a language where numbers are strings of the characters \'1\' and \'0\'. \ 2016-03-08 learn Computer is a language where numbers are strings of the charatcers \'1\' and \'0\' < 1475426932 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jesus < 1475426933 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475427061 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it sort of made sense at the time. < 1475427153 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dowg < 1475427154 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dowg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475427161 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat dowg < 1475427162 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: dowg: No such file or directory < 1475427166 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/dowg < 1475427167 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doag "wisdom/$1" < 1475427172 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/doag < 1475427172 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed --template "{date|shortdate} {desc}\n" -- "$@" < 1475427188 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nostril. < 1475427188 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: please note that this will be created. note that this behaviour was not implemented have been likewise implemented in c-intercal, such as the output random pad with random bits ( 16 if the `try again' command ( correct as of the format created by the generated code, and also obey the extra grouping rules < 1475427197 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nostril. < 1475427197 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: expansion libraries without having to install at all. if a onespot variable, it will identify both 16- and 32-bit values as long as at most one of those places). < 1475427202 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's different each time < 1475427213 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what is love? < 1475427214 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: intercal-72 c-intercal clc-intercal j-intercal yes all versions all versions all versions all versions no all versions all versions all versions < 1475427224 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm scared < 1475427225 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: after that statement finishes executing. ( if the stack while skipping some of its first statement; generally speaking, a clc-intercal program that weren't part of _this_ manual), making the rest of the stack, or may not be stored there. ( a onespot variable is overloaded to an expression in place of the characters `.:_', which is also computed `create' statement supercedes an older `create' statement references another < 1475427231 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: careful with fungot. he's sentient. < 1475427231 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: this manual is for the full details of how to use the `-t' option is used); for more details). `again' ( *note backtracking::) to create a directory created called `ick-0.29'; this is a separate next stack entry that isn't a particularly useful) intercal program, or decide that it is also possible ( from c-intercal version 0.29). < 1475427236 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I noticed < 1475427241 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, semi-sentient < 1475427247 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to the quotes < 1475427257 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1475427263 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1475427263 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: one of the difference between the `next' than `compunex' is likely to be run from within the program ends; however, the only flow-control commands in the same way to cause the program measures how many spaces it needs: the expression for the same line only makes sense to a mingle.) < 1475427272 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fnord < 1475427272 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: to a onespot variable is used to tell `ick' in `ick.h'; if you want to be input in any case. < 1475427343 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Jesus was the name of a famous wisdom creator. < 1475427347 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'jesu': Jesus was the name of a famous wisdom creator. < 1475427521 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/jesu{,s} < 1475427525 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1475427549 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I rather like your font, especially since I can now properly fully justify my text without it looking terrible < 1475427782 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475428052 0 :durakni!~foxtrot@HSI-KBW-046-005-000-222.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475428412 0 :durakni!~foxtrot@HSI-KBW-046-005-000-222.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cultivating cargo?.. < 1475428492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :durakni: i think it started with me saying something about Einstein hth < 1475428553 0 :durakni!~foxtrot@HSI-KBW-046-005-000-222.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :relative in its relateable theory? :) < 1475428575 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't even mention relativity, actually < 1475428586 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only his tensor notation. < 1475428596 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which he _used_ for relativity, mind. < 1475428630 0 :durakni!~foxtrot@HSI-KBW-046-005-000-222.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well glad we got that out of the way < 1475428756 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? durakni < 1475428757 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :durakni? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475428767 0 :Reece`!~Ner@host-92-13-207-71.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1475428883 0 :durakni!~foxtrot@HSI-KBW-046-005-000-222.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what is cargo cultivating < 1475428892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: as the resident expert, please guess the language of Reece`'s quit message twh < 1475428924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cargo cultivates all sorts of things < 1475428987 0 :durakni!~foxtrot@HSI-KBW-046-005-000-222.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what context? < 1475428998 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, i didn't add it to the topic < 1475429032 0 :durakni!~foxtrot@HSI-KBW-046-005-000-222.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes me think of spacex cargo shuttles < 1475429074 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: something Norse? < 1475429198 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that is a reasonable first impression, but not really. (also, i don't know the answer.) < 1475429235 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's something? http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/stuff/dialect2.php?opt=dialect2 < 1475429299 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ooh < 1475429406 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I like it. it's very Québécois in its word manglement approach :D < 1475429493 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'll see thou after, ta-ra for now"? < 1475429641 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thee < 1475429950 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475430035 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Client Quit < 1475430192 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475430348 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :alsithy after the tararfunar < 1475430359 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what the first and last parts are < 1475430421 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1475430422 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn tarafurnar/The event after which you'll be seen. < 1475430424 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «tarafurnar» < 1475430427 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :arfunar is half an hour < 1475430503 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'l see you after the (tar?) half an hour < 1475430555 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb's seems more likely < 1475430562 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't see that at first < 1475430627 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats boily for not including the key -----### < 1475430646 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dodges < 1475430650 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tarafurnar//s/./Tarafurnar is t/ < 1475430652 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a key? < 1475430653 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tarafurnar//Tarafurnar is the event after which you'll be seen. < 1475430697 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? swat < 1475430700 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :swat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475430705 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, -----### could be a poison dart, though perhaps the needle is a bit long < 1475430728 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be a feather duster < 1475430750 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote -----### < 1475430752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my swatter is guaranteed free of poison hth < 1475430752 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :54) * oerjan swats FireFly since he's easier to hit -----### Meh * FireFly dies < 1475430758 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1475430763 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no other swatter quotes? < 1475430783 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there is no one else quite as swattable < 1475430794 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose so < 1475430839 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fly, swatter, fly! < 1475430844 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? drone < 1475430847 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drones are tools used to perform certain criminal actions that were not possible in ancient times. < 1475430862 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? firefly < 1475430863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd drone//s/./D/ < 1475430865 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. < 1475430870 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/drone//Drones are tools used to perform certain criminal actions that were not possible in ancient times. < 1475430903 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; grep -ri swat . < 1475430916 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./userweps:boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter, moon has the snail cannon, hppavilion[1] is a motherfucking walrus \ ./swatter:The swatter is a tool for punishment commonly found in #esoteric. Not to be confused with the saucepan or mapoles. \ ./bdsmreclist:* oerjan swats quintopia -----### < 1475430943 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bdsmreclist < 1475430945 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​* oerjan swats quintopia -----### \ Phantom_Hoover: it records all the big hits < 1475430972 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; grep -ri dart . < 1475430974 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1475431465 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dreamt about some strange poker variant with many extra cards and extra hands, as well as ways for some players to determine where some of the cards are in the remaining deck; some extra patterns included "Common Tile" (all cards in the grid (except the message area) must be tiles, and all must be the same tile), "Leech Three" (in video poker it even depended on the cursor position), "Leech Q" (a pattern I could not understand), and others. < 1475431514 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bdsmreclist < 1475431521 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bdsmreclist: not found < 1475431538 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`find -name bdsmreclist < 1475431539 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: unknown predicate `-name bdsmreclist' < 1475431543 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`find . -name bdsmreclist < 1475431544 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: `. -name bdsmreclist': No such file or directory < 1475431546 0 :durakni!~foxtrot@HSI-KBW-046-005-000-222.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this is actual dream? < 1475431550 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :``find . -name bdsmreclist < 1475431552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `find: not found < 1475431575 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the bdsmreclist actually exist? < 1475431591 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :durakni: It is what I remember. < 1475431703 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: probably not. < 1475431730 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoag bdsmreclist < 1475431736 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ` mv bdsmreclist junk/ \ revert \ revert 1 \ echo " YOU are out of order." >> bdsmreclist \ mv bdsmreclist wisdom \ mv bdsmreclist. bdsmreclist \ rm bdsmreclist \ echo "* oerjan swats quintopia -----###" >> bdsmreclist < 1475431759 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was removed. < 1475431793 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`howg bdsmreclist < 1475431799 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ revert 942e964c81c1 \ ` chmod 777 / -R \ revert accbc9c5c7ec \ ls wisdom/* | shuf | head -n 10 | xargs rm \ revert \ revert 1 \ mv bdsmreclist wisdom < 1475431808 0 :durakni!~foxtrot@HSI-KBW-046-005-000-222.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT : < 1475431824 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoag bdsmreclist. < 1475431834 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ mv bdsmreclist. bdsmreclist \ cat bdsmreclist bsdmreclist > bdsmreclist. < 1475431955 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, i have no idea why it has that second line. < 1475431996 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless... < 1475432016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode bdsmreclist < 1475432017 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0020 SPACE] [U+0062 LATIN SMALL LETTER B] [U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D] [U+0073 LATIN SMALL LETTER S] [U+006D LATIN SMALL LETTER M] [U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0063 LATIN SMALL LETTER C] [U+006C LATIN SMALL LETTER L] [U+0069 LATIN SMALL LETTER I] [U+0073 LATIN SMALL LETTER S] [U+0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T] [U < 1475432037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode st < 1475432038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0073 LATIN SMALL LETTER S] [U+0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T] [U+0020 SPACE] < 1475432049 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1475432053 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ' bdsmreclist ' | cat -v < 1475432055 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ bdsmreclist < 1475432079 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hoag bdsmreclist . | cat -v < 1475432089 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wrong one < 1475432091 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ slwd drone//s/./D/ \ slwd tarafurnar//s/./Tarafurnar is t/ \ le/rn tarafurnar/The event after which you\'ll be seen. \ ` mv wisdom/jesu{,s} \ learn Jesus was the name of a famous wisdom creator. \ learn Xor is just addition of nimbers. \ slwd or//s/op/unary op/ \ slwd and//s/ < 1475432107 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hoag bdsmreclist. | cat -v < 1475432113 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ mv bdsmreclist. bdsmreclist \ cat bdsmreclist bsdmreclist > bdsmreclist. < 1475432127 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that one < 1475432156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url wisdom/bdsmreclist < 1475432158 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/bdsmreclist < 1475432441 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1475432448 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoag bsdmreclist < 1475432452 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ rm bsdmreclist \ echo " Phantom_Hoover: it records all the big hits" > bsdmreclist < 1475432467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how. < 1475432472 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/url < 1475432474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys, os.path, re, urllib \ if len(sys.argv) <= 1: \ print "http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/" \ else: \ f = os.path.abspath(sys.argv[1]) \ f = re.sub(r"^/+hackenv/", "", f) \ if re.match(r"/|(?:\.hg|tmp)(?:/|$)",f): \ sys.exit("File is outside web-viewable filesystem repository.") \ < 1475432552 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` tail bin/url < 1475432554 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if len(sys.argv) <= 1: \ print "http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/" \ else: \ f = os.path.abspath(sys.argv[1]) \ f = re.sub(r"^/+hackenv/", "", f) \ if re.match(r"/|(?:\.hg|tmp)(?:/|$)",f): \ sys.exit("File is outside web-viewable filesystem repository.") \ else: \ print ("http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fsh < 1475432571 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` url bin/url < 1475432575 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/url < 1475432645 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hurl < 1475432647 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/hurl: No such file or directory < 1475432701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cp bin/{,h}url; sed -i '11s/file/log/' bin/hurl < 1475432706 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1475432723 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hurl bin/url < 1475432724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/log/tip/bin/url < 1475432822 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hurl bin < 1475432824 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/log/tip/bin < 1475432885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those file logs are really not good at noting reversals < 1475433851 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475433926 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@spiritofcontradiction.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475433950 0 :IRIXUser!?@? NICK :Guest37056 < 1475433951 0 :Guest37056!~IRIX@spiritofcontradiction.eu QUIT :Changing host < 1475433951 0 :Guest37056!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber JOIN :#esoteric < 1475433953 0 :Guest37056!?@? NICK :JX7P < 1475434353 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1475434885 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1475435694 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475436176 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475436183 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475436584 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475436677 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475436788 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1475437607 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475437789 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475438323 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you can see my JavaScript object serialization program https://www.npmjs.com/package/object-serializer http://sprunge.us/AIYK < 1475438393 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me if there is any one unclear or incorrect or suggestion changed or whatever else. < 1475439367 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475439584 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: GROSS CHICKEN < 1475442111 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1475442892 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so why not CBOR? < 1475442933 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475442935 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems that your design is very comparable to CBOR with no seemingly visible benefits < 1475443046 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475443074 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475443075 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is CBOR? < 1475443095 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm at the second reading I can see some differences around, string back references (which might or might not be a benefit) and an ability to serialize arbitrary prototypes (an advantage, but not as a general serialization format) < 1475443099 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475443101 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://cbor.io/ < 1475443134 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also an ability to serialize recursive objects (this one can be huge) < 1475443176 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer the serialization to be fully non-recursive, but someone may actually want recursion < 1475443238 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that string backreferences are only for keys in my system, although that is where I expect them to be most useful (since many objects may have properties with the same name). < 1475443481 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, my design is specifically for JavaScript. < 1475443632 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CBOR is good, but it has a different use than mine; these two programs are to be used for different kind of purposes. < 1475443728 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475443803 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good evening, fungot < 1475443803 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: e888 i have no file and i must scream compilers too, and therefore broken the limit but wasn't designed to work with this character set, all of which are treated equivalently: lowercase letters, punctuation marks otherwise unused in intercal terms, imagine what would happen if the `-a' option ( *note -t::) to ( or `command' if that command and a 0, and can be used. < 1475443925 0 :zzo38_!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1475443929 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1475443933 0 :zzo38_!?@? NICK :zzo38 < 1475444211 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Witchcraft means "hairy cat" in New York on ice cream in a vacuum cleaner that mass produced by the world < 1475444267 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds worryingly Markovian < 1475444274 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is :P < 1475444283 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :im trying to come up with a better scheme < 1475444288 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :any good ideas? < 1475444348 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: be careful with arithmetic < 1475444358 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1475444396 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: ? < 1475444520 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything better than a markov chain Taneb? < 1475444544 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define "better2 < 1475444545 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1475444554 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Markov chains are pretty much the simplest thing that does this < 1475444572 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesnt fungot use something similar to a markov chain? < 1475444572 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: e533 you want the files `ick'. it can run the befunge program to `come from': < 1475444659 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does Fungot use to make its sentences? < 1475444698 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_, fungot uses a markov chain, yes < 1475444698 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: intercal-72 c-intercal clc-intercal j-intercal yes all versions all versions all versions all versions < 1475444719 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote anmaster no < 1475444726 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything that could make a more readable sentence? < 1475444730 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :559) Ngevd:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1475445303 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_, a larger window, but that needs a larger corpus < 1475445472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475445564 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is 210KB of data enough for that? < 1475445778 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really couldn't tell you < 1475445781 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on the data < 1475445807 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a large list of facts < 1475445827 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could try it and see how it goes < 1475445846 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475446703 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: markov < 1475446703 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: e778 unexplaned compiler bug, or at run time. only `abstain' and `.2/.1' together cause `.1' to specify other information to the error that looks like a line label, any `come from's need not count towards the total command count.) < 1475446750 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does saying something to fungot change its seed, or is it just random? < 1475446750 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: do create .5 switch .1 with .2 < 1475447187 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1475447430 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475447614 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless10.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475447735 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475447977 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475447993 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the standard name in fairy chess for the piece that has the orthagonal movement of a rook, but none of the special rules (namely, castling) < 1475448098 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg5blsgznxnzacw.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1475448233 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1475448258 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they usually just mention castling or not separately. < 1475448260 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is fairy chess different from chess? < 1475448334 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :It involves fairies < 1475448407 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that explains it < 1475448423 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_chess < 1475448442 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know of this term before < 1475448449 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm assuming that suicide chess is a form of fairy chess < 1475448510 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, no < 1475448524 0 :zzo38_!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1475448529 0 :zzo38_!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is like how fairy card is different from card. (I suppose this answer does not help much) < 1475448533 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475448533 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :suicide chess is for traditional pieces + board with nontraditional rules < 1475448548 0 :zzo38_!?@? NICK :zzo38 < 1475448552 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :fairy chess involves nontraditional pieces < 1475448562 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is correct < 1475448563 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nontraditional rules < 1475448571 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Avengers, Nick Fury bets Captain America $10 some parts of the modern world will surprise him < 1475448586 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something just occurred to me < 1475448611 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that $10 was a much larger amount of money in captain america's time? < 1475448624 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I checked, and $10 adjusted for inflation from 1945 to 2012 is $126.78 < 1475448627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Yes. < 1475448668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming Steve isn't up to speed on inflation < 1475449305 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475449330 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Example of some macro in my proposed kind of JavaScripts macro system: \{ define("_ord %L",x=>AST.value(x.charCodeAt())); } another macro like "#define ABC(x) ((x)+(x))" in C can be defined either as \{ define("ABC(%E)",x=>(|\(x)+\(x)|)); \} or as \{ define("ABC(%E)",x=>AST.plus(x,x)); } with the same meaning in each case. Do you like this? What other comment/question/complaints you might have? < 1475449401 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475449550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did it JUST hit me that the old German guy in Avengers who stands up to Loki < 1475449567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was an old German guy who probably REMEMBERS the last time this happened < 1475449587 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was exactly the point < 1475449624 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, Cap outright references Hitler ("Last time I was in Germany, and I saw a man standing above everybody else, we wound up disagreeing" < 1475449643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Yeah, which is why it's weird that I just noticed it < 1475449658 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I just didn't connect that the German guy was old and might've been around in the 40s < 1475450204 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I tell Firefox to finish loading the text before it loads any pictures? < 1475450291 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: technically speaking, suicide chess doesn't have a king, but rather a Mann < 1475450311 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475450318 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's fairy chess in that sense < 1475450331 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless10.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475450344 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what suicide chess would be like if it had regular check and checkmate rules < 1475450346 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Where's that documented? < 1475450357 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: I learned the rules from someone in person < 1475450362 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think they're pretty universal < 1475450369 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is that the king in suicide chess doesn't have any royal powers < 1475450373 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only mentions of mann I can see relating to suicide chess is the author of a unix program < 1475450374 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have seen once somewhere that it is a variant that you can also lose by checkmate < 1475450378 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus is actually a different piece < 1475450392 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: IIRC mann is the name for a king without royal powers < 1475450408 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is what it is. < 1475450441 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what ches would be like if you replaced all the pawns with manns < 1475450443 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chess < 1475450507 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475450552 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1475450570 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you could hide all the pictures with css rules, then load another css rule later that overrides it and reveals the pictures < 1475450611 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will hiding them prevent them from loading? I still want the placeholders to load if the width/height are specified, though. < 1475450611 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I think zzo38 cares about load order not render order < 1475450624 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is that you have to turn off http pipelining or the like < 1475450633 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to force the original page to load before any of its dependencies < 1475450635 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, that is correct. I want to affect the load order not rendering. < 1475450635 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think you can hide images with css in such a way that the browser doesn't even load them usually < 1475450679 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: maybe you could make the server not serve the images until the text is loaded? < 1475450701 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you could even make the css rules replace elements with images, so the image urls aren't known before < 1475450707 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That won't help; for one thing it is not my server < 1475450709 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then surely the browser can't load that < 1475450710 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I also think zzo38 is the client here, not the server < 1475450714 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1475450718 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and really, this should be a client setting < 1475450719 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you're the client? < 1475450723 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1475450724 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the server? < 1475450725 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1475450727 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... < 1475450733 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloony! < 1475450742 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that the names "client" and "server" also work for restaurants < 1475450743 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe try to use a proxy or something? < 1475450772 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, or < 1475450779 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :use lynx or w3m < 1475450781 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well http is a pull protocol < 1475450793 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a page loads because the client requests it, not because the server suggests it < 1475450799 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think you can make the browser not load images at all, possibly with a browser extension, then change the setting to load images later manually < 1475450970 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Netscape used to load picture late? < 1475451018 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1475451089 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it may be a case of the web pages being designed differently < 1475451099 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many pages nowadays load everything using JavaScript, including the text < 1475451105 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO they shouldn't < 1475451114 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rather there should be some sort of server-side DOM diffing) < 1475451193 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a set of key-value pairs and i want to store at most K of them. when i store the (k+1)th element i want to remove the oldest i inserted. when i get a value in this structure, i want that element to become the newest inserted < 1475451196 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what data structure does this? < 1475451293 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hash table + a tree for the order? < 1475451306 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475451417 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: can you overwrite a value while keeping the key the same? and if you do, does it go to the "back of the queue" or does it stay in its current position? < 1475451471 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can overwrite, and overwriting makes that element the most recent one < 1475451488 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :which basically is equivalent to removing and reinserting < 1475451558 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1475451611 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hash table + priority queue? < 1475451613 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Paulmooreparks 5* 10New user account < 1475451619 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that would work would be a linked queue (plus an integer holding the length) for identifying old keys to remove, plus a hash table that uses keys as keys, and pointers to the queue elements (so that you can remove them from the middle of the queue) as values < 1475451647 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1475451647 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you need a priority queue here, a regular queue would work? admittedly priority queues were my first idea but I can't see any interesting way to set the priority < 1475451689 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for your help < 1475451769 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's probably an easier solution but I can't think of one < 1475451795 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49847&oldid=49833 5* 03Paulmooreparks 5* (+282) 10 < 1475451808 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pbrain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49848&oldid=43719 5* 03Paulmooreparks 5* (+8) 10Updated the link to the official pbrain site. < 1475451884 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pbrain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49849&oldid=49848 5* 03Paulmooreparks 5* (+16) 10Updated parkscomputing.com link in Implementations section. < 1475452072 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475452083 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :functor//Functors are just morphisms in the category of small categories. < 1475452360 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not true < 1475452375 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messageese-loud < 1475452375 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 12h 45m 38s ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_index_notation < 1475452421 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475452543 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1475452586 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475452645 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: agreed, some pages have tricks, whether on server side or in client javascript, to make sure the ads load before the page content. < 1475452772 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: use a priority queue heap rigged so that you keep track of the position of elements in it in a separate circular array that associates the insertion time with the position of the element the heap < 1475452778 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host86-191-55-36.range86-191.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475452791 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: no wait, a circular array won't work < 1475452805 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead, probably you need a full separate ordered associative array < 1475452810 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorted by insertion time < 1475452872 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a binary (or quaternary) heap sorted by the keys and an ordered tree sorted by the insertion dates, and when you move an element in the heap, track its position in the ordered tree < 1475452902 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475452922 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm wait < 1475452928 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually you don't need a search tree < 1475452931 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 is right < 1475452988 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only need a heap sorted by the keys and a queue (possible implemented as circular array or just as an array with free space on both sides that is sometimes moved) and link the position of elements both ways < 1475453024 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1475453030 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that won't work < 1475453036 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm saying all stupid things < 1475453043 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the task again? < 1475453069 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i have a set of key-value pairs and i want to store at most K of them. when i store the (k+1)th element i want to remove the oldest i inserted. when i get a value in this structure, i want that element to become the newest inserted " < 1475453092 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the key even do? what is it a key of? < 1475453100 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you just have ordinary pairs? < 1475453120 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475453122 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need a plain queue < 1475453141 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i want to find an element by its key < 1475453154 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you didn't say that < 1475453167 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1475453200 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: needs to be a linked queue so that you can delete from the middle, while preserving the order of other elements, in less than O(n) < 1475453207 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming we're going for asymptotic performance here < 1475453228 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bitsofpancake.com/programming/markov-chain-text-generator/ < 1475453262 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, have a separate associative array that is keyed by the keys and stores the position of that element in the queue. if the queue is array-based, then store a biased index that never changes, and store the bias separately; if you use a linked list based queue (less practical), then make the position (stored in the associative array) a po < 1475453263 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :inter to the element in the queue. < 1475453263 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to shove a bunch of logs into a javascript maarkup chain someone else wrote. < 1475453273 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1475453275 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though we fungot is already here for that. < 1475453275 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: all operations on intercal source code), prepending a byte with 172 to the one implemented in c-intercal, and so on) with the best results. ( the previous character minus the previous sentence also explained what operands these operators have to rename the installation directory: mkdir build cd build ../configure to build in a linked c program ( for instance < 1475453284 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to be able to delete an element from the middle? < 1475453288 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using the key? < 1475453309 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, then you need at least a linked list queue < 1475453312 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: to replace the element back at the end of the list < 1475453322 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact < 1475453332 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make the links internal to the tree < 1475453336 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, no separate linked list, < 1475453351 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's interesting < 1475453365 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just have an associative array keyed on the keys, and as the value, you store the values and the key of the next newest element < 1475453372 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and store the key of the oldest element somewhere < 1475453400 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for this < 1475453430 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: oh, that's clever, but I think you need to doubly link < 1475453445 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you can't update the link from the element immediately older than the one you delete < 1475453459 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: true, doubly link < 1475453474 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you need to store the total number of elements so that you know whether you need to delete the oldest at all < 1475453478 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's easy enough < 1475453525 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also an alternate solution too (the one you get if SQL databases are your only hammer): use two associative arrays, the first one is an ordered one keyed by insertion times, the second one is an unordered one keyed by the keys but also stores the insertion time as extra value < 1475453563 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's assimptotically slower, but much easier to implement, because you never have to modify elements < 1475453590 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, then too you need to track the number of elements < 1475453600 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I was actually thinking "a relational database could solve this problem, I wonder what algorithm it'd use" < 1475453691 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you modify that a bit by using a heap (instead of an ordered assoc array on the insertion times) then you'll have to store the positions in the unordered assoc array and update those positions all the time < 1475453722 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless perhaps you use a linked heap, which is a bit ugly < 1475453771 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the SQL-like solution with just two assoc arrays is the easiest to implement because you don't need custom data structures < 1475453896 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using SQL as your only hammer is actually quite a useful crutch, even if it's not one I really like < 1475453904 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer other hammers < 1475453979 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your favourite general-purpose hammer? < 1475454071 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure. < 1475454135 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think when making data structures, I try to use arrays and array indexes and similar over anything associative whenever I can get away with it (without too much trouble), at least if I'm programming in C++. I use associative arrays in perl, unless I need to optimize. < 1475454162 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do sort of like the SQL clutch in a way, but don't stick to it all the time. < 1475454211 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do like the part of the SQL clutch where I try to avoid deeply nested data structures, instead using shallow structures (whether array-like or associative) and pointing into them with indexes or keys < 1475454237 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't like the part of the SQL clutch where everything has to be associative so you can insert or delete arbitrarily. < 1475454243 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that make sense? < 1475454279 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The former part, avoiding deeply nested structures, applies even when I'm programming in perl. < 1475454332 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, on the occasions I've used deeply nested structures < 1475454341 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it normally turned out in retrospect to be a mistake < 1475454351 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if I find myself maintaining too many indexes (indices?) manually < 1475454359 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably be using a database instead < 1475454368 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see: aimake) < 1475454371 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't usually have to maintain them. Just set them once. < 1475454525 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I don't like hash tables. If I do need an associative array (rather than get away with an array), and I'm not writing perl, I prefer to use a search tree. I do acknowledge that sometimes hash tables are faster, but that optimization is rarely relevant for whatever I'm writing, < 1475454529 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the associative array isn't usually in the fast path. The fast inner loops can generally be written so they use only arrays. < 1475454558 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In perl, I do use the builtin hash tables though. < 1475454648 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used a trie when I needed to optimize an associative lookup in NH4 < 1475454656 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was just because they're easier to write than hash tables are < 1475454665 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason why you rarely need associative arrays is this: most of the time you actually just write everything in them first, then when they're finished, you look up stuff in them or iterate on them. If that's the case, then an array you sort once and then binary search in is better. < 1475454711 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, this is the case in the programs I write. If you're like writing a kernel, then you will totally need lots of hash tables and search trees. < 1475454733 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475454738 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475454759 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sometimes you do need custom structures, you can't do everything the SQL way, but that's pretty rare. < 1475454801 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, it sort of depends on how many non-custom structures you know already.) < 1475455067 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And obviously all this stuff depends a lot on your task and parameters, so use common sense and do whatever is best for the particular task rather than just one hammer. < 1475455113 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsøirjan. < 1475455158 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bod kveildy. < 1475455277 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New operation (or, well, notation for an existing operation): reverse subtract < 1475455289 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Does saying something to fungot change its seed, or is it just random? <-- it's random. in particular fungot has no way to convert a word into the right index pointer, only the reverse. < 1475455289 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 2. compile the externally-called files.) here's an idiom from the stack while skipping some of this is another compile-time error. < 1475455335 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, a rsub b is the same as b sub a. No new uses, but can make some stuff look better. < 1475455338 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if the file format even allows it. < 1475455353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notation is a backwards subtraction sign. < 1475455359 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah. < 1475455383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2 `subtract` 4 -- haskell is way ahead of you < 1475455385 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1475455407 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: since you mention aimake, have you worked on that (or ayacc) again? < 1475455430 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the aimake rewrite or something < 1475455430 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1475455435 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or even on scapegoat.) < 1475455438 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats hppavilion[1] -----### < 1475455447 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did a bit of work on ayacc I think, not sure though < 1475455447 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no work on aimake < 1475455452 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well yeah < 1475455453 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great! < 1475455460 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some fonts in which - isn't left-to-right symmetrical < 1475455462 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you released ayacc under some free software license yet? < 1475455475 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or had it escape under such a license at least < 1475455500 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, apparently not < 1475455503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Of course Haskell is ahead of me < 1475455503 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was planning to though < 1475455507 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me stick a GPLv3 notice on there < 1475455547 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but that's usually because it has serifs (so it's a bit wavy) or is a double line above one another with the two slightly offset horizontally, and in either case it would look ugly if mirrored < 1475455586 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know you were planning, you just didn't do it because you weren't working on aimake at all < 1475455612 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, what's the start of the copyright range on this thing? < 1475455629 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015 < 1475455640 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the #esoteric logs even has a statement somewhere that serves as releasing under a license. < 1475455646 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015? no way < 1475455650 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it that new? < 1475455652 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a reverse minus sign is possible because a normal minus sign is changed- not just -, but more like a vertically-flipped ¬) < 1475455692 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wow the repo was out of date < 1475455698 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: OK, updated, and properly licensed now < 1475455701 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it is < 1475455701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also an operation related to ± called "minus-or-reverse-minus", which is literally just a[morm]b = a-b|b-a < 1475455713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also reverse-minus-or-minus) < 1475455719 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's the url? < 1475455739 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not sure how they look though; need to figure that out < 1475455741 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1475455787 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, the URL is wrong < 1475455794 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me go and find a better URL for it :-P < 1475455808 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1475455813 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not urgent or anything < 1475455832 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just curious < 1475455852 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you planning to add a stackless C backend by the way? < 1475455870 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: darcs clone http://nethack4.org/projects/ayacc < 1475455892 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the current C backend uses the call stack as the only stack < 1475455892 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, a C backend that doesn't use recursion so it can return after each token read < 1475455901 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, I see < 1475455905 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :error 403 < 1475455911 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't currently have any plans to write a push parser < 1475455927 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm wait < 1475455964 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't be, I have +rx perms on all the directories and +r on all the files < 1475455968 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you try to access it in a web browser? :-P < 1475455990 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually what I'd like isn't really a push parser, but rather a way to reset the parser to older savestates (unpushing tokens). one way to do that would be to make it a push parser AND use immutable data structures only, but it could be done in other ways. < 1475456009 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, in a web browser < 1475456046 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :savestating the parser isn't something that's very compatible with aimake's architecture < 1475456051 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd probably be better off using bison for something like that < 1475456052 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with direct file access the access control error would be error 13 rather than error 403 < 1475456065 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well darcs still uses http < 1475456072 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475456073 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just it accesses different files than the browser does < 1475456089 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is compatible in the sense that I'd only need a new backend template for it, not change anything in the actual parser generator code. < 1475456117 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: the main thing that ayacc needs and doesn't have is type safety < 1475456123 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm it just uses the union for everything, like bison does < 1475456123 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is good, because I have more chance to be able to do it, I don't have to understand the theory of the generator, and get to reuse (most of) the optimizations you've implemented. < 1475456129 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it has enough information to use exact types < 1475456148 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you could write a separate backend, yes < 1475456154 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it already have _some_ type safety, as in, it derives the types of some values, but not all? < 1475456158 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to implement the "function call" operations via maintaining a stack manually < 1475456164 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1475456172 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :parts of the code know what the type of certain values are, but the type information isn't propagated < 1475456213 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1475456241 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can the compiler that compiles the emitted code do that if it analyzes all the functions together? Probably not reliably. < 1475456265 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The switch statements on state variables would confuse the compiler too much to follow what really happens. < 1475456269 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes the type of one return value of a function depends on the value of another < 1475456275 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd probably keep using the union in that ase < 1475456277 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*case < 1475456281 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1475456286 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than having multiple return values just so that they can have different types < 1475456301 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, ayacc often creates a function that, say, can parse one of two things < 1475456304 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it tells the caller which it parsed < 1475456316 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's no reason why the semantic values of those two things needs to have the same type < 1475456332 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in C it uses return-by-reference if a function needs multiple return values) < 1475456356 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then you return a distinguished union? < 1475456379 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still getting error 403 < 1475456401 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: are you running the literal command "darcs clone http://nethack4.org/projects/ayacc"? < 1475456409 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! it's a darcs repo < 1475456411 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't say that < 1475456422 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was a landing page with information < 1475456422 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I did < 1475456440 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and actually, that's a good point, it probably should be a landing page < 1475456443 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case that URL isn't final < 1475456459 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should move it to media/ < 1475456462 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you check for I/O and SDL events together with SDL 1.x? < 1475456483 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack4.org needs a more organized filesystem < 1475456483 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and you should have a list of all projects at /projects or at / < 1475456487 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I/O is converted into SDL events by SDL, so you just do a single check for SDL events < 1475456493 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, if you request the conversion < 1475456517 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me install darcs, I think I don't have it on this machine yet < 1475456528 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you do that on an arbitrary file descriptor? < 1475456554 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ugh, I ran into this problem with SDL 2 myself, and I think SDL 1 is the same < 1475456565 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only method is to create a separate thread to monitor the file descriptor < 1475456576 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you can't communicate to the main thread < 1475456590 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you add events to one thread from another thread or not? < 1475456591 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :posting an SDL event doesn't work because it can lead to deadlocks, the SDL messaging functions aren't thread-safe < 1475456600 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no, as far as I know < 1475456601 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O it isn't thread-safe < 1475456608 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in NH4 I basically had to poll :-( < 1475456608 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait really? < 1475456614 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an SDL extension called something like SDL_net < 1475456616 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might be able to do it < 1475456623 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they repeated that mistake from wx? < 1475456637 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: and SFML makes exactly the same mistake! < 1475456638 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ridiculous < 1475456646 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's SFML? < 1475456672 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that Xlib does not have this problem; you can check for events and other file descriptors together, since the X events are a file descriptor! < 1475456676 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? SFML < 1475456681 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SFML? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475456689 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: main competitor to SDL < 1475456692 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was looking at it for libuncursed < 1475456699 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems to have the same set of deficiencies as SDL does < 1475456753 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, SDL_net doesn't have a way to select network packets against SDL events either < 1475456765 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do so many people get this stuff wrong < 1475456784 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure they don't just have a confusing documentation and some way to do this properly? < 1475456789 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also at least SFML doesn't have the primitives necessary to create your own thread-safe event injector either < 1475456795 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd need semaphores but it only has mutexes < 1475456821 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: nah, I think the sort of people who write this sort of library genuinely don't see polling as a problem < 1475456824 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it /can/ be done with polling, very easily < 1475456829 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just eats up more CPU wakeups than it should < 1475456836 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, multiple apis, a simple main loop that doesn't let you listen to arbitrary file descriptors, but also a more complicated method that lets you embed it to any event loop < 1475456851 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy < 1475456881 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, SDL does have semaphores < 1475456887 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is possible to make it work < 1475456907 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you do that with the semaphores then? < 1475456920 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what you have to do is have three threads: one handles SDL events and signals a semaphore when they arrive; one handles file descriptors events and signals the same semaphore when they arrive; and one processes events signalled by the other two threads < 1475456942 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, the two side threads need to "up" a semaphore that spends most of its time at 0 when they have something to report < 1475456953 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the merging thread "down"s the semaphore whenever it handles an event < 1475456974 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't the events needed in the main thread? < 1475456980 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably a bit more complex because you need to wait for the event to be handled before you start working again, so you might need another semaphore to send in the other direction < 1475456998 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's data to communicate about the events, you'd do it using shared memory < 1475457016 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: IIRC QT and glib both require you to use its own main loop, but has events you can use it to wake it up from another thread properly < 1475457025 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: yes < 1475457030 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :libuncursed also uses that model < 1475457043 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually implementing the remote wakeup in SDL was ridiculous, though; I used polling to do so in the end < 1475457054 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in libuncursed 2 I want to do it without polling < 1475457055 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... what? < 1475457060 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would libuncursed do that? < 1475457068 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: say you're watching a game < 1475457076 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I mean < 1475457088 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to wait on both a keypress by the user (SDL event), and network activity (move made by the user you're watching) < 1475457104 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and libuncursed uses polling because SDL uses polling internally anyway < 1475457105 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't libuncursed just use the model where you provide the main loop and it tells you when it wants to listen to input and to output < 1475457108 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I felt that a bit more wouldn't hurt much < 1475457124 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: libuncursed 1 uses the event loop model < 1475457143 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :libuncursed 2 uses a variant of the model in which you have a command that does all output /and/ all input < 1475457156 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes it a lot harder to make mistakes < 1475457178 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously, you set up the output you want in-memory in advance, and the output+input is basically similar to a buffer-swap command that waits for input once it's done so) < 1475457213 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or just make it use libev only, but give the option to compile to a custom libev) < 1475457282 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I'm not even sure what you mean by "it tells you when it wants to listen to input and to output" < 1475457341 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, you might not even need that, because it always wants to listen to input, and probably wants to block on output rather than poll for it < 1475457351 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1475457353 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that I designed Xwicketset it does have a function called XwicAddFileEvent for purpose explicitly to watch on multi file descriptors as well as X events. < 1475457370 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: oh, I see, you were trying to support background /output/ < 1475457406 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, libuncursed assumes that it can safely output synchronously, and even if it needed to output asynchronously I think it'd want to hide the details of that from the program using libuncursed < 1475457429 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, since this goes over network which could have a high latency, and the user could press lots of keystrokes each of which change the screen content a lot, in which case you might even be able to drop some of the output < 1475457473 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that might not come up much in practice because of the large buffers involved < 1475457494 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't want to drop output because of ttyrecing and (for bots/interhack) pipelined farlook < 1475457523 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although uncursed should be handling ttyrecing itself really < 1475457526 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be enough to make the calling program (eg. nethack) sometimes not try to flush the screen if more keystrokes have already arrived < 1475457533 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and block on output always < 1475457552 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you don't want to drop anything because of ttyrec < 1475457554 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1475457569 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475457572 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think async output would be doable without changing the API, though < 1475457578 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe libuncursed 2 should support it as an option < 1475457591 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the likely implementation would be to use a second thread to do the rendering < 1475457639 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh my god, FiveThirtyEight is named because the US electoral college has 538 electors < 1475457673 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*facepalm* < 1475457675 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could have a ttyrec game option, so that when the user promises he's not ttyrec-ing (or teeing to multiple terminals) then the game can drop output if it's already read keystrokes (ans possibly uncurses can optimize the output a bit more dangerously so it only works on the exact terminal size) < 1475457721 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: text wrapping probably isn't consistent betwen terminals anyway < 1475457738 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd probably just want an option for async output behaviour < 1475457747 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an option in libuncursed itself to produce ttyrecs < 1475457767 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's stub code for this in libuncursed 1; the ttyrec code itself hasn't been written but the place where it connects to the main code has been) < 1475457775 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: isn't it at least consistent in typical cases, which uncurses can detect? < 1475457800 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1475457805 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, it probably doesn't matter much practically < 1475457821 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such an optimization wouldn't really help much of anything < 1475457849 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just be premature optimization] < 1475457929 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, maybe it'll help when using one of the slower forms of output < 1475457931 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at ayacc now (checked it out with darcs) < 1475457932 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like wincon or SDL < 1475457965 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1475458012 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so now ayacc is distributed under GPL3 < 1475458013 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1475458084 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the output it generates still doesn't get restricted copyright-wise) < 1475458088 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1475458091 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1475458100 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now it has tests < 1475458113 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might move the GPLv3 text to be literally inside the source code rather than a separate file < 1475458134 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not many tests yet < 1475458183 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1475458903 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1475458911 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1475459190 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: CASK CHICKEN < 1475459313 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1475460456 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1475462404 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475462427 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475462456 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:79b6:cdd6:2165:ca0c JOIN :#esoteric < 1475463517 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand the V8 embedding guide so well. How do you do reference counting with it? < 1475464807 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475465885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1475467967 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, apparently style guides (e.g. Strunk & White, Chicago) are sometimes called "style sheets" < 1475467981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not OK with this unless they're written in CSS (or SASS or SCSS or LESS) < 1475467988 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or etc.) < 1475468758 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG660Jijr1A < 1475468828 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great choon right there < 1475469386 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I make a language, should it be horribly inflective or not? < 1475470169 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475470175 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION converts MLA to CSS < 1475470247 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475470293 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475470459 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the MLA has anything to say about animations < 1475470578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Does MLA say how you cite an expansive scrawling on the walls of a cell written by a madman in his own blood over 15 years? < 1475470701 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: inflection would be cool < 1475470715 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on what you inflect over < 1475470729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Polysynthetically? < 1475470743 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidentiality, definitely < 1475470772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe definitivity/certitute/whatever?) < 1475471130 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475471478 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: That sound good? < 1475471746 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeh. < 1475471778 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I might also inflect over whether hitler did it too... < 1475471801 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a great idea. I'm playing as hungary. Let's see if I can conquer austria before hitler can enact anschluss! < 1475471903 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475471915 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475472578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...dammit < 1475472597 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I messed with the colors for HexChat and now everything is weird < 1475472606 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I can't find the reset button < 1475472614 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm pretty sure there used to be one) < 1475472998 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Austro-hungarian Empire, Reunited! < 1475473019 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, austria was soooo weak < 1475473033 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475473059 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475473928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are prepositions and postpositions, but what about inpositions? circumpositions? < 1475473979 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are suppositions < 1475474358 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475474366 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475474488 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475474517 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475474830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PIE did use inflect! It does not have a great effect! < 1475475401 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475475796 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you could probably cite the madman scrawling the same way as letters/correspondence < 1475475819 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://guides.lib.monash.edu/c.php?g=219786&p=1454260 < 1475475835 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"print diary" seems the closest < 1475475964 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HE IS COMING[1] < 1475476072 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Manuscript (print) would actually be correct, as you're citing the original, not an edited & published version < 1475476094 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I've taken the sudetenland too < 1475476134 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah! my hungarians are just cockblocking germany < 1475476227 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1] Hermit. (Untitled). Scrawled onto the walls of a cave in own blood. Found in cave outside of Tulsa, Oklahoma. Stand-alone. < 1475476311 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Remind me why Belkar can float? < 1475476821 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :appositions < 1475476958 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475477032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Philosophy is much better with formal logical notation... < 1475477220 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it does help. But, a few things are difficult to put into formal logical notation (such as things that are difficult in general). < 1475477645 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475477668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yeah, but things that aren't difficult in general become perfectly unambiguous < 1475477778 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa whoa whoa < 1475477797 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0571.html has a prediction for 1187-03-26 < 1475477809 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which what's-his-name is aware of < 1475477815 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Yes, that I agree, that is why it helps. < 1475477823 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the in-comic time, anyway? < 1475478669 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I should read OotS... < 1475478802 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :K-Lined < 1475479064 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oots < 1475479078 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is slow again? < 1475479080 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oots? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475479549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What do you get with Euclidean geometry if you assume everything is polar coordinates (that is, you still draw a circle, but the points on the circle aren't thought of as cartesian) < 1475479585 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you asking me? < 1475479649 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure... < 1475479784 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Euclidean geometry was coördinate-free last I checked. < 1475479835 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coordinates are scow < 1475479955 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, yeah < 1475479960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... < 1475480000 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I'm ACTUALLY saying is 'what happens if you take the thing that happens when you use a ruler and compass, but treat it as polar and take whatever it is in cartesian and use that as primitives" < 1475480103 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm, http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0489.html < 1475480372 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Euclidean geometry is neither cartesian nor polar < 1475480373 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil is measured in kilonazis? < 1475480441 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure more conventional units would be milinazis < 1475480497 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, circle looks exactly the same < 1475480526 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the Lenat; one nazi, like a Lenat, is a big value that (hopefully) is never reached in practice < 1475480555 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Hoolootwo: You're both wrong; Nazis would be the base unit, but SI actually uses Mengeles < 1475480652 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo: Or pouters < 1475480661 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I had a feeling circles would be the same) < 1475480931 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus is currently clocking in at 70.8 megawarhols, though that's not adjusting for population... < 1475481122 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :warhol as in andy warhol? < 1475481221 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@43.245.203.68 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475481420 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Warhol as in the unit < 1475482276 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take a statement of the Ship of Theseus and replace all of the words with synonyms, one by one < 1475482333 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still like "I AM POINTY DEATH INCARNATE" < 1475483664 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I just heard the Ontological Argument for god... < 1475483698 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wat < 1475483995 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it was Anselm < 1475484018 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait.. < 1475487151 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475487624 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...can we say "paper authorizes removal of rock" from now on? Please? < 1475487698 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475487744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can say that to your Twitter account. < 1475488248 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah fuck you we don't want your bureaucracy < 1475488624 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475490522 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475490531 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: But it's so much less stupid than "paper covers rock" < 1475491139 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475491212 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475491658 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475491926 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475492431 0 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475492466 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475493263 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475493380 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1475494485 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475495152 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475495158 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finland//Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least nine of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. < 1475495639 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475497045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pirated His Dark Materials I'm ræding appears to be OCRd < 1475497062 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a lot of words are misspelled by the computer < 1475497138 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With )s where there should be js and all the æs are just aes < 1475497144 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ø became o < 1475497146 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very sad < 1475497306 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellœn[1]. you couldn't get a printed copy? < 1475497445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Not on short notice, but I will if I can < 1475497470 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: And I need the UK editions, as the US editions are edited to remove objectionable content < 1475497474 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I find objectionable < 1475497494 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Removed objectionable content is ALWAYS more objectionable than the original content < 1475497581 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 03:30 here < 1475497584 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have school tomorrow < 1475497588 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't sleep < 1475497667 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, school... < 1475497715 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: DIGRAPH CHICKEN < 1475498154 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1475498280 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@spiritofcontradiction.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475498304 0 :IRIXUser!?@? NICK :Guest52456 < 1475498313 0 :Guest52456!~IRIX@spiritofcontradiction.eu QUIT :Changing host < 1475498313 0 :Guest52456!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber JOIN :#esoteric < 1475498317 0 :Guest52456!?@? NICK :JX7P < 1475499234 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475500710 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475501213 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@43.245.203.68 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475502189 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475502191 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1475502274 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@27.109.115.236 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475502602 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb `^_^v < 1475502630 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475502986 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@27.109.115.236 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475503482 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475503527 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475505108 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475505139 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475505453 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475505720 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps Tristan with 0.83 trouts and 0.17 blunt instruments < 1475505722 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1475505738 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1475505857 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(simple typing error: this channel is assigned F10; the messages was for a channel that I have assigned F11 to) < 1475507727 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gravbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49850&oldid=49832 5* 03Moon 5* (-4) 10 < 1475507845 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475507909 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My new home keyboard has arrived. < 1475507921 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475507922 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm typing from it now. I'm still not completely used to it. < 1475507936 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a heavy and loud mechanical keyboard. < 1475507948 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives Bowserinator a cookie for helping a lazy programmmer implent Gravbox < 1475507964 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :x/buffer 6 < 1475507971 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(WD AULA blue springs keyboard for the record) < 1475507993 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very different feeling from all previous keyboards I've used. < 1475508421 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475508979 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1475509068 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475509876 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] There are prepositions and postpositions, but what about inpositions? circumpositions? <-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preposition_and_postposition#Classification_by_position inpositions sound suitably weird for a conlang. < 1475509876 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475509960 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know people who did a language solely based on inposition on a pizza brrak for a role playing game race < 1475510009 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: like M:tG? < 1475510158 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is m:tg anything like an rpg? < 1475510224 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no < 1475510252 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :M:tG was invented as a quick game you could play in idle times of role playing < 1475510265 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was duels only then) < 1475510272 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: maybe they read "role" as "rule" :-P < 1475511115 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src == < 1475511115 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :x == y = not (x /= y) < 1475511128 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src /= < 1475511128 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :x /= y = not (x == y) < 1475511136 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :known fact < 1475511163 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is confused < 1475511176 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src > < 1475511176 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :x > y = case compare x y of < 1475511176 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : GT -> True < 1475511176 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : _ -> False < 1475511177 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1475511189 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :== uses /= and /= uses == < 1475511204 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to implement Eq for your class, you just need to overwrite one < 1475511215 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt, i was just curious. < 1475511216 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other will automatically fit due default definition < 1475511375 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Eq < 1475511375 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :class Eq a where < 1475511375 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (==), (/=) :: a -> a -> Bool < 1475511590 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src [] == < 1475511590 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Just what do you think you're doing Dave? < 1475511596 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src == [] < 1475511596 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. < 1475511598 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1475511608 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1475511610 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i guess that's just the default derived one < 1475511628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: @src has some specific method sources too < 1475511634 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Maybe >>= < 1475511634 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Just what do you think you're doing Dave? < 1475511640 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src >>= Maybe < 1475511640 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. The more you drive -- the dumber you get. < 1475511646 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or USED TO, anyway. < 1475511660 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src (>>=) Maybe < 1475511660 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Where did you learn to type? < 1475511661 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Maybe < 1475511661 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Maybe a = Nothing | Just a < 1475511670 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Maybe (>>=) < 1475511670 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just x) >>= k = k x < 1475511670 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing >>= _ = Nothing < 1475511673 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there < 1475511685 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid parenthesis and _order_ sensitivity < 1475511691 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*_and_ order < 1475511726 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: any chance of making parentheses irrelevant in @src lookups twh < 1475511750 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this time, i tried all three wrong combinations first < 1475511769 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1475511854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src (>) < 1475511854 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :x > y = case compare x y of < 1475511854 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : GT -> True < 1475511854 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : _ -> False < 1475511877 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, it already is, but not for looking up instance methods < 1475511898 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what the lookup looks like < 1475511905 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Maybe (>>=) < 1475511905 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Do you think like you type? < 1475511910 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Maybe(>>=) < 1475511910 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. I feel much better now. < 1475511913 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Maybe (>>=) < 1475511913 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just x) >>= k = k x < 1475511913 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing >>= _ = Nothing < 1475511938 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably just a blind lookup into a Data.Map, and then again with parentheses around everything < 1475511945 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :+.Map < 1475512012 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1475512299 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :37 fetch x m = M.lookup x m `mplus` < 1475512299 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :38 M.lookup (P.concat [P.singleton '(', x, P.singleton ')']) m < 1475512303 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :checks out < 1475512419 0 :nycs!~nycs@27.109.115.236 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475512424 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475512469 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :Eq < 1475512481 0 :Eq!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1475512778 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber QUIT :Quit: Quit < 1475512981 0 :nycs!~nycs@27.109.115.236 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475513014 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475513044 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475513181 0 :irctc246!5e35756e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.53.117.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475513387 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475513649 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src ^>> < 1475513649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f ^>> a = arr f >>> a < 1475513723 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src second < 1475513723 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Just try something else. < 1475513739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src second f = arr swap >>> first f >>> arr swap < 1475513739 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : where swap ~(x,y) = (y,x) < 1475513742 0 :irctc246!5e35756e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.53.117.110 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1475513752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there are some bugs in the source file... < 1475513769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the above is because second is missing its key line) < 1475514349 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475514382 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :man i got used to looking at the borders of eastern europe in HOI4 and now maps of europe as it is today look wrong < 1475514386 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, hungary doesn't border ukraine, what happended? < 1475514431 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what happened to the end of slovakia where id wraps arond hungary < 1475514562 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and poland is entirely too far to the west now < 1475514601 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: they lost a war hth < 1475514662 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and poland no longer even has a border with latvia < 1475514692 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: basically russia got to keep their spoils from the molotov-ribbentrop pact, while germany were forced to compensate them for poland < 1475514705 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the soviet union < 1475514772 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see, and russia also took some of slovakia and romania as well < 1475514778 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: what's HOI4? and why doesn't Hungary border Ukraine? < 1475514783 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand this < 1475514815 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hearts of Iron 4. it's a war game that starts in 1936 < 1475514821 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: It's that game, I see people talk... right. < 1475514826 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1475514831 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm now more used to seeing the old borders < 1475514910 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475514922 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played as hungary last night, and I took austria before hitler had a chance to do Anschluss and take it < 1475514975 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the german AI doesn't seem to do very well in that situation < 1475515032 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src ,) (<*> < 1475515032 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(u, f) <*> (v, x) = (u `mappend` v, f x) < 1475515051 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now I saw a picture of europe in a news story and it looked completely wrong < 1475515145 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is poland so small!?!? why is germany shaped like a peanut? < 1475515186 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what the heck happened to yugoslavia? < 1475515369 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it fell apart as soon as they lost tito. < 1475516062 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I knew something like that was going to happen < 1475516287 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: don't accept yet, i'm making an amendment for Source.hs < 1475516457 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I'm not used to 1936 maps, but I am used to 1900 maps, so I always find it strange that there are seven independent countries instead of Yugoslavia < 1475516537 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I'm not glad that the war ended, but the map looks so strange. < 1475516551 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1475516598 0 :Guest22110!~IRIX@spiritofcontradiction.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475516686 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gravbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49851&oldid=49850 5* 03Moon 5* (+2) 10fixed program. < 1475516853 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives Bowserinator a giant cookie for implementing Gravbox < 1475516872 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gravbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49852&oldid=49851 5* 03Moon 5* (-2) 10Its now implented! :D < 1475516940 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1475516965 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bowserinator: make a wiki account and put the SRC up somewhere. and then link to it. < 1475516967 0 :Guest22110!~IRIX@spiritofcontradiction.eu QUIT :Changing host < 1475516967 0 :Guest22110!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber JOIN :#esoteric < 1475516969 0 :Guest22110!?@? NICK :JX7P < 1475517389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm travis < 1475517397 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475517450 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475517452 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475517712 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf oerjan: Remind me why Belkar can float? <-- http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1015.html < 1475517712 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475517993 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1475518014 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems oerjan forgot to pack some strings < 1475518033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1475518124 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messes-loud < 1475518124 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 6m 52s ago: oerjan: Remind me why Belkar can float? <-- http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1015.html < 1475518157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. < 1475518163 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475518174 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thx tdh < 1475518248 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1475518677 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that went a lot faster < 1475518703 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, good, second travis build was faster < 1475518754 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475519112 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475519142 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475519613 0 :sebbu3!?@? NICK :sebbu < 1475519723 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475520245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1475520312 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1475520330 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:791d::1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475520353 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:791d::1 QUIT :Changing host < 1475520353 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber JOIN :#esoteric < 1475520354 0 :IRIXUser!?@? NICK :JX7P < 1475520428 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a 2 dimensional "regexp" language? got to thinking the other day about how you might make text-based GUIs with a kind of 2-dimensional sed < 1475520464 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a look at "picture languages" < 1475520500 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ooh, thanks < 1475521035 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475522184 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1475522687 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475522736 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1475522945 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2 < 1475523079 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote invisible < 1475523088 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :35) With enough crappiness a display can show you invisible pink unicorns. \ 997) "May you live in INVISIBLE TIMES." --Old Chinese proverb. (It can look confusing when written with the proper Unicode.) < 1475523115 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475523135 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475523138 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean 1990 maps obviously. < 1475523145 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fungot here? < 1475523183 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently not. < 1475523215 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1475523217 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: May you live in INVISIBLE TIMES. < 1475523225 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, I guess. < 1475523264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1475523271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :May you live in DIVISION TIMES. < 1475523281 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :keyboard < 1475523287 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/ keyboard < 1475523288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /: Is a directory \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /: cannot execute: Is a directory < 1475523290 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? keyboard < 1475523291 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :keyboard? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475523300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: May you live in TIMES WITH LEFT HALF BLACK. < 1475523328 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are great. < 1475523375 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :May you live in CUNEIFORM SIGN EZEN TIMES A PLUS LAL TIMES LAL. < 1475523383 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, ⨋ < 1475523417 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that even mean < 1475523424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1475523427 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i want to use it < 1475523448 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⨋_i i*x dx < 1475523514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Working on my absurdly inflective language < 1475523520 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1475523520 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 3h 47m 24s ago: There are prepositions and postpositions, but what about inpositions? circumpositions? <-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preposition_and_postposition# < 1475523520 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classification_by_position inpositions sound suitably weird for a conlang. < 1475523562 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475523588 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: For time, I currently have 5 tenses (including null tense) and 4 types of aspect (progression, perfection, evitability, and forcing) < 1475523621 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :otherbot < 1475523626 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINITE PART INTEGRAL [⨍] < 1475523639 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about suppositions... they are nasty because they don't appear anywhere in the text. < 1475523642 0 :otherbot!?@? NICK :jeffbot < 1475523671 0 :jeffbot!?@? NICK :Guest60464 < 1475523679 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Sometimes they appear in superscript. < 1475523687 0 :Guest60464!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1475523731 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, dinnerscript < 1475523812 0 :ybden!?@? NICK :vmunix < 1475523820 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: nah, that's called a dinner menu. you know the Larry Wall saying, the script is what you give to the actors, the program is what you give to the audience. < 1475523839 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Can I get dinnerscript at a dinerscript? < 1475523846 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: you missed a pun there, I think. < 1475523854 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :jefl35 < 1475523860 0 :jefl35!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1475523880 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hint, because maybe it's just too awful: supper is a meal) < 1475523884 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2A75 TWO CONSECUTIVE EQUALS SIGNS [⩵] < 1475523888 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2A76 THREE CONSECUTIVE EQUALS SIGNS [⩶] < 1475523912 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, as in supperscript < 1475523916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :APPROXIMATELY EQUAL OR EQUAL TO [⩰] < 1475523925 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-135-074.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475523929 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475523992 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the saying about exclamation marks also apply to equality signs? < 1475524014 0 :vmunix!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :issupper(meal) < 1475524046 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-135-074.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1475524062 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-135-074.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475524106 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though apparently Pratchett's threshold was five: "Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind." < 1475524208 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :five? whew < 1475524213 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so four is safe < 1475524824 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475526019 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475526105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1475527381 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475527395 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messa? < 1475527395 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1475527397 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messag? < 1475527397 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: messages? messages < 1475527404 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on :-P < 1475527406 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messagess? < 1475527406 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1475527435 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor ais523 :'( < 1475527444 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-byinzggkeviklrib PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 It's okay. Have a message. < 1475527444 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475527446 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want a message and/or a hug? < 1475527453 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm OK with not having messages < 1475527453 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do1 < 1475527464 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :less OK with lambdabot's persistent inability to understand my question < 1475527496 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sentient you know? < 1475527512 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how lambdabot command correction works? < 1475527539 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your string has to be either a prefix of a command or within edit distance 2 of a command. < 1475527567 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured it was using edit distance 2 after the first two requests < 1475527580 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just think that a deletion should count as less than a substitution, especially given how unlikely ? is as a typo for s < 1475527592 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need some sort of edit distance that takes qwerty into account < 1475527604 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the @messag? was ambiguous. < 1475527612 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1475527612 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1475527622 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@uptime < 1475527622 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :uptime: 6d 11m 11s, longest uptime: 1m 12d 14h 14m 14s < 1475527631 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any esolangs which care about qwerty layout? < 1475527636 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, not just inspired by it < 1475527641 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the key layout actually has a semantic effect? < 1475527651 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. BF with q w e r t y u i as the commands doesn't count) < 1475527704 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: would something that is controlled by ykulnjbh or qwedcxza or wdsa or esdx or jkli count? < 1475527721 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if it was directions in esolang, not in a game < 1475527734 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIUC, a 2d language that uses qweadzxc for nw,n,ne,w,e,sw,s,se movements would qualify? < 1475527735 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1475527756 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1475527764 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :being redundant, as usual. < 1475527781 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not qure I'd allow wasd-alikes to count because it's just syntax < 1475527809 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering if there's some way to make it semantically relevant < 1475527812 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... you want something that's not just syntax/ < 1475527814 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what else would it be... permuting letters is just a syntactic change after all < 1475527815 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would that work? < 1475527818 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I don't know < 1475527830 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just brainstorming < 1475527854 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like "commands can only mention more than one variable if their names are adjacent on the keyboard" < 1475527872 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So any change of the keyboard layout is just a syntactic change, as far as I can make out. Unless you want an interpreter that actually queries what the current keyboard layout is and changes semantics based on that? < 1475527880 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(who needs portability?) < 1475527885 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like brainfuck where you move between variables near each other? < 1475527915 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: sort of < 1475527933 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :say you can only do commands like "g = h + y" (because those keys form a triangle so you can mention all three variables in the same statement) < 1475527942 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally we'd need a way to make the restriction actually matter though < 1475528220 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :K-Lined < 1475528730 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475529380 0 :vmunix!?@? NICK :ybden < 1475529644 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives haskell a bear hug for being so amazing < 1475529693 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475530209 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475530250 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475531527 0 :daddle!~doppelkek@HSI-KBW-046-005-242-224.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475531533 0 :daddle!~doppelkek@HSI-KBW-046-005-242-224.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PART #esoteric : < 1475531535 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1475531768 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? longcat < 1475531770 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :longcat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475531773 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ceiling cat < 1475531775 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ceiling cat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475531905 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475531936 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? copycat < 1475531937 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copycat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475532214 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:SPAM/114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49853&oldid=38765 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+697) 10 < 1475532729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1475532790 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cat < 1475532791 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1475532797 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1475532805 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits cat < 1475532807 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie evilipse int-e ais523 oerjan elliott Roujo < 1475532819 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg cat < 1475532820 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that differ from `culprits? < 1475532820 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-09-25 revert 942e964c81c1 \ 2016-09-25 ` chmod 777 / -R \ 2015-08-13 revert accbc9c5c7ec \ 2015-08-12 echo wisdom/* | shuf | head -n 10 | xargs rm \ 2014-03-16 revert \ 2014-03-16 revert 1 \ 2013-08-29 echo Cats are cool, but should be illegal. > wisdom/cat < 1475532826 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Prepends wisdom/ < 1475532833 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1475532860 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't there a version of dowg that showed older entries first? < 1475532865 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -li tac bin < 1475532870 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/ploki \ bin/udcli \ bin/emmental \ bin/luac \ bin/macro \ bin/multicode \ bin/jq \ bin/seens \ bin/¿ \ bin/searchlog \ bin/gs2.py \ bin/7za \ bin/lua \ bin/tclkit \ bin/shove \ bin/units < 1475532904 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I want to call it rowg. But that's ambiguous between dowg and howg < 1475532917 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/{h,d}owg < 1475532917 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoag "wisdom/$1" \ doag "wisdom/$1" < 1475534173 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1475534819 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:79b6:cdd6:2165:ca0c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475535130 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475535516 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1475535812 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-74.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475535889 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475536017 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475536223 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-135-074.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475536388 0 :burden--!~foo@c-98-235-65-93.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475537505 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475537619 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475537726 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475537730 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1475539466 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475539860 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475540116 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1475540127 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ada Lovelace was the (legitimate) offspring of Lord Byron < 1475540133 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Epitaph to a Dog guy. < 1475540135 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool. < 1475540973 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475540984 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475540985 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :caps lock//CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR TIRED OLD MEMES < 1475541447 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475541471 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is CAO down? < 1475541472 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: a. i don't think i answer those, ihope. i yield to you. < 1475541478 0 :MDead!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475541479 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: damn. < 1475541479 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i just don't like how... weird... and doesn't make a difference yes? says who??? fnord ( car list) < 1475541493 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well, I like that server. that's the closest one. < 1475541493 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i dont think i have now spend more time typing than thinking, i'm doing work"? i'm impressed if you think about this in the mzscheme compiler manual < 1475541537 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, I think in French. messemble que depuis le temps c't'assez évident... < 1475541537 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: laml is neat, kipple, axo,...? yeah, i think. < 1475541554 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, a kipple is not French hth < 1475541596 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1475541603 0 :MDead!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1475541627 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475541672 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“It's not just you! http://crawl.akrasiac.org looks down from here.” thanks downforeveryoneorjustme.com! < 1475541701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is "chicken" several of "chicke"? < 1475541746 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:48b0:c3d0:dae8:50d1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475541757 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475541810 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. no, it undergoes vowel-mutation. singular is checkan. < 1475541812 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:48b0:c3d0:dae8:50d1 QUIT :Client Quit < 1475541818 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! do you mutate? < 1475541826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ah, but what's the dual? < 1475541836 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chickenayim. < 1475541839 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily! constantly! < 1475541846 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very slowly, though. < 1475541856 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( there seems to be a pun in there, but where... ) < 1475541874 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1475541876 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( We need an enhanced plural schema for english with distinct rules for infinite cardinals ) < 1475541895 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't conscious, but _maybe_ you could say "constant" is the opposite of "mutating". < 1475541941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :English also needs indefinite form- not singular or plural or dual; no grammatical number at all < 1475541984 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, like, if the schema is +ae, the indefinite of dog would be dogae, which means 1 (or should it be 0?) or more dog(s) < 1475542041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :modified english is the brainfuck derivative of conlangs hth < 1475542280 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's less easy to implement < 1475542325 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, surprisingly many BF derivatives have non-nesting [] because the author couldn't figure out how to implement them < 1475542346 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in at least one case, this is for a good reason as the derivative was created to prove another language TC; it was replaced by a conditional goto) < 1475542445 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which language is the most surprisingly TC? < 1475542463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well yeah... < 1475542487 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: /// maybe? < 1475542508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh my god #esoteric is discussing esolangs... weird...) < 1475542530 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Even better, which language is the most surprisingly ¬TC < 1475542633 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Though, I wasn't going for a conlang modifying english; more for making people use it under pain of glaring so it's just part of english < 1475542998 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to create a company for which the name violates English order of adjectives... < 1475543025 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ssages? < 1475543025 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1475543032 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ^ >:) < 1475543042 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cheating :-P < 1475543096 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messes? < 1475543096 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1475543112 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:08 @messes-loud < 1475543130 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1475543130 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1475543139 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: FAIL < 1475543162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i assume we're golfing) < 1475543179 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Golfing what? < 1475543186 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot commands < 1475543186 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That question made no sense. < 1475543197 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was obvious what you were golfing. < 1475543222 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why I wrote it. < 1475543226 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point was I wasn't golfing. < 1475543246 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:53:17 @messageese-loud < 1475543276 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lousy < 1475543276 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1475543529 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs his dose of crawl, fungot it! < 1475543676 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I love ///. < 1475543740 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot? < 1475543740 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: four files: fnord, which might be very sensitive to medications). < 1475543770 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: has boily been overusing you < 1475543770 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: scheme48 has immutable objects in general. i'm spending a lot of work < 1475543829 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @messages- < 1475543829 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: user error (Unknown command: "messages-") < 1475543834 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes fungot < 1475543834 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: would you /please/ stop playing with me... i am not sure whether they're _required_ to have constant time.... < 1475543843 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BWAH AH AH AH AH AH AH :D < 1475543862 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely overused. < 1475544032 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say. < 1475544053 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'all know about MegaHAL. It's that one chatterbot you can download and play with, that was created in 1998. < 1475544089 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a more modern chatterbot that you can also download and train and run locally? < 1475544120 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot hth < 1475544120 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: someone drank all the milk again, have you got any nice stuff :) forthers would say that the branches are mutually exclusive sounds more restrictive than doing the 32-bit math in the first < 1475544146 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i have coke zero < 1475544147 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm sure you can try ideologies, but be extremely rigid on the ones where you press combinations of keys are mutually exclusive in style. < 1475544195 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I make a mean Hong Kong style milk tea, if you want to stay awake for the next 12 hours. < 1475544195 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's so straight-forward i'm not even in that movie a dozen times. always the same. i think his solution is quite workable for individual use or in other words < 1475544289 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome back, fungot < 1475544289 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: or maybe ,trace fnord/ fnord/ images/ fnord < 1475544302 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: btw i made `hurl hth < 1475544311 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hurl < 1475544312 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475544339 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hurl < 1475544340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys, os.path, re, urllib \ if len(sys.argv) <= 1: \ print "http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/" \ else: \ f = os.path.abspath(sys.argv[1]) \ f = re.sub(r"^/+hackenv/", "", f) \ if re.match(r"/|(?:\.hg|tmp)(?:/|$)",f): \ sys.exit("File is outside web-viewable filesystem repository.") \ < 1475544344 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurl hurl hur < 1475544361 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag bin/hurl < 1475544364 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-10-02 ` cp bin/{,h}url; sed -i \'11s/file/log/\' bin/hurl < 1475544367 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the same as `url except for a single word < 1475544370 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475544397 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/hurl < 1475544397 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/hurl < 1475544408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hurl bin/url < 1475544409 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/log/tip/bin/url < 1475544453 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you invalidating all my dog work < 1475544503 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does a pooch have the Buddha-nature? < 1475544505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not necessarily. sometimes the log for a file is a bit too long to browse on irc, is all. < 1475544529 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the web browser seems to leave out obvious edits :( < 1475544533 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you invalidating all my dog work 04a08n09d all my spam work < 1475544556 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES BECAUSE I'M EVIL *MWAHAHAHA* < 1475544568 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sometimes you can't win so better go for the carnage) < 1475544582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\texrb *\rainbow{MWAHAHAHA}* < 1475544585 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1475544587 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION plays with fungot < 1475544587 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: a very general answer; i'm looking for one that's simple to understand. < 1475544593 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's embarrassing < 1475544595 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*04M08W09A11H12A13H04A08H09A* < 1475544622 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION plays with fungot some more < 1475544622 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: probably someone's done one already < 1475544629 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: done one what? < 1475544629 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: " reiserfs the file system to die for! and especially to evaluate in your head, everywhere you need to duplicate the lines then. sorry, once again we return to a non-extended one would wipe away the original text :) < 1475544644 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: it was indeed a file system to die for, for some < 1475544662 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you say some worrying things < 1475544662 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: oh, i'm just a coop stuck with the lamest parts of the pre-scheme source code for it < 1475544669 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I see. < 1475544690 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :*silence* < 1475544782 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybdellon. once you reach the fungothreshold, he won't answer to you. somebody else has to summon him between runs. < 1475544782 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that was fast. almost at fnord packing up. hrmph.), sieni_. would you refer to is all part of the set! < 1475544825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hmm, I want to call it rowg. But that's ambiguous between dowg and howg <-- drwg hth < 1475544841 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But that doesn't sound like "rogue". < 1475544898 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1475545178 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you a MegaHAL? < 1475545179 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: mmm sounds like it involves robotic breasts. college of engineering. < 1475545219 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this bot is getting better and better every day < 1475545299 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1475545305 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475545327 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475545344 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are you improving? < 1475545345 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: 1 gregorr: bf8 isn't harmfull < 1475545366 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1475545387 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475545401 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Challenge: Produce a mathematical generalization of the 12 days of christmas < 1475545488 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a for loop...? < 1475545516 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: uhm... you want to have, robotic breasts? < 1475545516 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: then it rejects all functions that don't return, tco falls into place, though. do you plan to support paredit.el for xemacs as well? < 1475545643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: No? < 1475545757 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :two nested for loops? < 1475545768 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475545855 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: I'm looking for a generalization < 1475546029 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean? < 1475546091 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: QUANDARY CHICKEN. < 1475546169 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1475546241 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]! < 1475546249 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu! < 1475546286 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to hate LDAP < 1475546440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LDAP?? < 1475546490 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1475546618 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to organize the configuration of Servers, Flavors, Users, and Groups. < 1475546620 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: What is LDAP < 1475546635 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you don't know what it is < 1475546638 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :low density audio platform hth < 1475546654 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lightweight Directory Access Protocol" < 1475546679 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :long and delicate pincers < 1475546777 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's LADP < 1475546788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is < 1475546793 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: are you a windows person? < 1475546801 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a person? < 1475546804 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, unfortunately < 1475546810 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: THAT IS NOT YOUR DOMAIN TO KNOW < 1475546815 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :large distracted antwerp pooch < 1475546816 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ahh, then you might recognize "Active Directory" < 1475546819 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs around in circles < 1475546874 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :list detected active protocols < 1475546970 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to troll brits with numbers: Follow these rules: (1) If '0' is 'oh', then 1 is 'el', 5 is 'es'; say 'single oh' every time there's a zero (along with 'double oh'); express everything as its prime factorization < 1475546975 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :long distance argumentative parrot < 1475547005 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: are you familiar with Active Directory? < 1475547007 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like a good post for your Twitter account. < 1475547009 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1475547020 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I got blocked because I look like a bot, remember < 1475547026 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: are you familiar with the concept of a "User" < 1475547034 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yes. < 1475547040 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't it be great if C# supported generic generic parameters? < 1475547041 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I just google LDAP? < 1475547046 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: LDAP is a "User" Database < 1475547048 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so you continue the same behavior in IRC? < 1475547058 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I think I get it < 1475547061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...yes? < 1475547066 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sends hppavilion[1] around in circles < 1475547069 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::, < 1475547074 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:,( < 1475547083 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :public abstract class Monad> { public abstract M Join(M> input); ... } < 1475547112 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're ...ing return because you can't type it? < 1475547154 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :public abstract M Return(T input); < 1475547168 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serious question: Is there an equivalent to the FLA for HCNs? < 1475547190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. "all numbers can be expressed as a quotient of HCNs") < 1475547207 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1475547262 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up what that stuff is on Wikipedia. < 1475547263 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highly_composite_number < 1475547275 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By FLA, do you mean the Fundamental Theory of Arithmetic? < 1475547377 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( /kickban hppavilion[1] Obvious bot ) < 1475547390 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Theorem, but yes < 1475547440 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fundamental Law of Arithmetic, surely < 1475547467 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The theorem is this: The positive naturals are a free commutative monoid generated by the primes under multiplication. < 1475547471 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, my fallibility is showing. < 1475547504 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: damn it. I read as far as "the theorem is this" and decided to one-up you by giving *my* favorite statement of the theorem... < 1475547525 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your statement, then? < 1475547543 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then I realized that what you said *is* my favorite statement (more or less). < 1475547556 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1475547569 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's how I like to phrase it: < 1475547586 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The commutative monoid of the positive integers under multiplication is a free commutative monoid." < 1475547614 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same thing, really. < 1475547648 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should have moved "under multiplication" nine words earlier. < 1475547741 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I left out "generated by the primes" because you can just define the primes as being the generators. < 1475547768 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean you can figure it out. < 1475547781 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the point of the theorem is that it's what you get after you figure it out. < 1475547864 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh, yes, FTA < 1475547886 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: You can fix that by becoming pope < 1475547904 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing I thought of offhand today: orders of composite numbers < 1475547912 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess what I'm unintentionally suggesting is that you could first prove the FTA, and then use the FTA to define the prime numbers. < 1475547920 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A first-order composite number is a prime number (...yeah, sorry) < 1475547940 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The positive integers under multiplication are a free commutative monoid. Define the prime numbers as the generators of this monoid." < 1475547943 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly, if you generate a free monoid from a countably infinite set, what you get is isomorphic to the positive naturals under multiplication. < 1475547945 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An nth-order composite number is an (n-1)th-order composite number times a first-order composite number < 1475547968 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you already know the positive naturals, and you already know the primes, then telling you that those primes in particular generate the positive naturals is pretty good. < 1475547973 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so an nth-order composite number is a number with exactly n prime factors? < 1475547993 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is equivalent to saying that the composite order of a number is the cardinality of the bag of its prime factors) < 1475547996 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes < 1475547999 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that. < 1475548073 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, is there a prime factorial function? Or, more accurately, there is a prime factorial function, but does it have any use? < 1475548074 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x‽ = product({p : p ≤ x, p in |P}) < 1475548091 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's called the primorial function. < 1475548106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Really or in an #esoteric way? < 1475548114 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, yep < 1475548117 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primorial < 1475548127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sylvan Primordial < 1475548138 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In general for a positive integer n {\displaystyle n} n, a primorial n # {\displaystyle n\#} {\displaystyle n\#} can also be defined, namely as the product of those primes ≤ n {\displaystyle n} n:" < 1475548143 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I apologize for the wonky copy-paste. < 1475548183 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hey, I have a random question for you. < 1475548194 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: You may proceed < 1475548211 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: do you have any thoughts as to where you want to start your career? < 1475548220 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, software development, mathematics research, something else? < 1475548226 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That question has a rather big assumption, doesn't it? < 1475548233 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO idea < 1475548275 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that hppavilion[1] wants to have a career? < 1475548284 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know what a career is. < 1475548330 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's more potential for success in private sector dev, but I'm drawn to academics on... almost moral grounds < 1475548335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i not a career in the world < 1475548352 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your sense of morality has already been established to be very suspect. < 1475548363 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I kind of feel like I'm doomed to eventually go to grad school. < 1475548364 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Excellent < 1475548374 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Iovoid 5* 10New user account < 1475548381 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh. < 1475548384 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, I want to be Dr. Naþan, so...) < 1475548392 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1475548424 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think my industry experience is going to be really valuable if I ever want to do business-oriented research. < 1475548435 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1475548454 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easier to design a business-oriented programming language if you have experience doing business-oriented programming.. < 1475548495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apparently there are two conflicting definitions of primorial- one is what I said above, the other is the product of the first n primes. I'm already developing strong opinions on it.) < 1475548647 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475549027 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I know. The primorial function should be a function PrimeCut -> N, where PrimeCut is the collection of all downward closed sets of prime numbers. < 1475549478 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa whoa whoa, norway doesn't even have a legal minimum wage < 1475549528 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither does italy < 1475549587 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is OK a minimum wage should not be needed < 1475549599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: see, your minimum wage is only a half-assed compensation for the fact you don't have properly powerful labor unions hth < 1475549623 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the government is the most powerful labor union of all hth < 1475549627 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's not very good < 1475549631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :at labor unioning < 1475549707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't count as a labor union if the employers have more say than the laborers hth < 1475549778 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475550637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if british banks have the most say < 1475550643 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it count as a libor union < 1475550679 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you think the us minimum wage should be raised < 1475550723 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my prejudices say yes. < 1475550735 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my actual knowledge is insufficient hth < 1475550749 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that I decided to do some amateur economics that's probably terrible in the wake of Brexit < 1475550785 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and concluded that in response to Brexit, the UK minimum wage should probably be increased, with a reduction in corporation tax to compensate < 1475550798 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I was surprised to see that many actual economists had come to the same conclusion < 1475550803 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do you think about the tipped employee minimum wage exception < 1475550824 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scowissimus hth < 1475550841 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475550842 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think it's ridiculous, I don't like the idea of peoples' livelihoods depending on customs rather than actual rules < 1475550852 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it doesn't apply in california < 1475550863 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the UK, tipping at restaurants is rare apart from very high-end ones < 1475550879 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if someone takes your order while you're seated, then later physically delivers your food < 1475550883 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't directly depend on custom though < 1475550883 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tipping would be usual < 1475550885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even where it does apply, the minimum wage is the lower bound, with the employer having to pay the difference if necessary < 1475550893 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1475550900 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, the US minimum wage is a joke < 1475550903 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still scow < 1475550917 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: How did you come to that conclusion? < 1475550917 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you star a repo called silver-giggle? < 1475550920 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :on github < 1475550938 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wouldn't star a scow < 1475550953 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering how popular i'd be if i created repos with the names github suggested < 1475550975 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm headed to England for the weeked (... stupid, I know), is tipping like that only for high end restaurants, or just anywhere where there is sit-down service? < 1475550992 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fwiw I have stopped tipping at restaurants that do not offer full sit-down service. I feel the need to draw the line) < 1475551012 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many places have started asking for tips because it's just a configuration option on the credit card machine < 1475551029 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: has to be fairly high-end < 1475551044 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the usual tip is approximately 10% but it's common to round it so that the total price paid is a round number < 1475551050 0 :encodingcollecto!~encodingc@c-73-189-255-150.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475551055 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it might be 9% or 11% depending on the exact price of the meal < 1475551078 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in the US the standard restaurant tip is ~20%. < 1475551136 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nobody would be annoyed if you didn't round it; it's just usual to do so) < 1475551171 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The UK minimum wage seems to be higher than the US's but lower than California's. Of course it's hard to compare these things. < 1475551183 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My impression of UK software engineer wages was that they're very low compared to the US, but I don't know whether that's true. < 1475551183 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49854&oldid=49847 5* 03Iovoid 5* (+222) 10 < 1475551191 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe comparing to silly valley is unfair. < 1475551232 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07VoidLang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49855 5* 03Iovoid 5* (+1151) 10Created page for VoidLang < 1475551240 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, partly because silicon valley wages are high due to living costs < 1475551255 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously, try adjusting the wages for cost of living and, while still quite high, they are far more reasonable) < 1475551276 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: here, the standard tip is 15-20% depending who you ask < 1475551282 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :but traditionally this is on the pre-tax price < 1475551294 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays the credit card machines do it for you, but they apply it to the total prie < 1475551301 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if wages scale linearly with cost of living, then it makes sense to live in the most expensive place you can find. < 1475551303 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a lot of people started tipping more without knowing it < 1475551354 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow stipping < 1475551365 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah tipping is dumb < 1475551369 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :just kill it < 1475551371 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :outlaw it < 1475551377 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is cow tipping < 1475551455 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Well, if wages scale linearly with cost of living, then it makes sense to live in the most expensive place you can find. ← that might explain London :-P < 1475551485 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :London has a semi-serious issue in that housing there is in such high demand for people who work high-paying jobs in the captial < 1475551493 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is London more expensive than the san franciscow bay area? < 1475551524 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that all the people who work support jobs, people like shelf stackers and doctors and the like, can't afford to live there on their smaller salaries < 1475551572 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :london is probably less expensive than san fransisco < 1475551578 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's basically like a transport/housing black hole < 1475551592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do UK doctors make much less money than US doctors? I think I might've heard someone say that once. < 1475551593 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a house anywhere where it's possible to commute to London to do a job is more expensive as a result < 1475551600 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if the commute is ridiculous < 1475551610 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much is typical London rent? < 1475551659 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :average price to buy for a flat is £494,329 < 1475551663 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's harder to figure out the renting value < 1475551672 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 494329 GBP in USD < 1475551673 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Result Found. < 1475551678 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That used to work. < 1475551683 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :San Francisco is the most expensive housing in the world IIRC < 1475551690 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :SF refuses to permit densification < 1475551695 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty expensive, but it would be quite cheap in San Francisco. < 1475551708 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the prices are skyrocketing because the supply is limited by the arbitrary rules about how high you can build < 1475551765 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like most rental prices in London are in the £1000-2000 range < 1475551775 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :per month, that is < 1475551824 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and £12000 per year is a plausible salary for someone's first job after graduating university < 1475551851 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems like practically minimum wage. < 1475551859 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a 1-bedroom apartment in Berkeley, where I live, would be in that range. < 1475551863 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a huge proportion of the country goes to university < 1475551874 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably toward the mid-upper end of the range unless you get a cheap one? < 1475551910 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minimum wage in the UK varies by age: for 21-24 year olds it's £6.95 < 1475551914 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :per hour < 1475551915 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anything support the "Accept-Features" HTTP header? < 1475551942 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at 40 hours per week for 45 weeks, that's £12510 < 1475551942 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i Accept-Features: Accept-Features < 1475551966 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, no wonder early graduate employment is in a mess < 1475552036 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, apprentices only have to be paid £3.40 per hour in the first year of their apprenticeship, that seems very low < 1475552042 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates for anyone who wants to look up the numbers < 1475552057 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's also 50 weeks on this continent < 1475552087 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was guessing at the amount of holiday allowance < 1475552104 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the amount of time spent looking for jobs when one fixed-term job after another ends < 1475552116 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only slightly bitter about that…) < 1475552121 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've applied for a couple of jobs but haven't heard back for weeks < 1475552131 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sorts of jobs? < 1475552162 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :academic jobs, one in teaching, one in research < 1475552172 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both fields where I have experience < 1475552249 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you not have public insurance for the in-between-jobs periods? < 1475552280 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: yes, but it comes with a huge number of restrictions < 1475552286 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the amount isn't that great < 1475552290 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping to avoid it < 1475552301 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but might be forced into it if the jobs take much longer < 1475552316 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of the requirements is that you have to spend much of your time applying for jobs, including ones that are a terrible fit) < 1475552340 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you want to stay in Birmingham? < 1475552342 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, I believe that's not the case here; you are not expected to switch fields < 1475552366 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if you haven't heard back in weeks it's not unreasonable to follow up < 1475552389 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm really bad at travelling and living in unfamiliar places < 1475552391 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't moved house /ever/ < 1475552412 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :other people have moved out, but I just stayed < 1475552432 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you also don't want to become good at it? < 1475552436 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when I've been abroad for conferences and the like it's been terrible < 1475552445 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :why terrible? < 1475552450 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :lack of routine? < 1475552451 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What an odd thing. My family moved around probably every few years when I was young. < 1475552483 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: sometimes I have problems doing even basic tasks in unfamiliar environments < 1475552498 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost starved to death while in France because I have food intolerances and most of the food would have triggered one or another < 1475552505 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ouch :( < 1475552507 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, that's an exaggeration < 1475552515 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had enough food to live off but it was a very repetitive diet < 1475552517 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have enough food allergies that I understand what you mean < 1475552524 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I basically lived off BLT sandwiches and crisps < 1475552546 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't remember whether crisps are "chips" or "crackers". < 1475552549 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they're "chips". < 1475552555 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1475552558 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"potato chips" in US English, yes < 1475552582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poochtato < 1475552584 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think that it is something that takes getting used to < 1475552658 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other thing is that Birmingham is almost exactly the right size for me < 1475552669 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a handy feature < 1475552671 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a good variety of places within walking distance, for example < 1475552673 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish KW were slightly larger < 1475552678 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more accurately < 1475552684 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly more people in the same area < 1475552698 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kitchener-Waterloo? < 1475552720 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1475552748 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :San Francisco is so small. < 1475552760 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even the biggest city by population in the San Francisco Bay area. < 1475552810 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I never really had that thought when I was there :) < 1475552825 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming you're talking about Kitchener-Waterloo) < 1475552897 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kitchen 'er water loo? i 'ardly know 'er! < 1475552960 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should visit Toronto. < 1475552963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear it's a good place. < 1475553069 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :five hours till 10 AM in berlin < 1475553089 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks approaching tick tock < 1475553095 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kitchener used to be called Berlin < 1475553114 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until 1916 < 1475553174 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Black14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49856&oldid=49117 5* 03Ais523 5* (+156) 10/* C */ mirror of Blak < 1475553183 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, kitchener-waterloo < 1475553196 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: that KW could be denser? < 1475553201 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Have you considered some sort of software type of job? I hear they're good. < 1475553217 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not sure I actually hear that. I mostly hear people complaining about them.) < 1475553243 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: considered it, yes < 1475553253 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the current jobs fall through then that's my fallback < 1475553439 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I worked in the same building as Don Woods once. < 1475553446 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I suspect his job was not related to INTERCAL. < 1475553452 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess the next term 3 7 13 31 61 127 251 < 1475553458 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1475553465 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess again < 1475553467 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1475553475 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're eliminated < 1475553487 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, let's let lambdabot have a guess < 1475553489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: http://slbkbs.org/math-diff-2-4.txt hth < 1475553493 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 3 7 13 31 61 127 251 < 1475553494 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://oeis.org/A014234 Largest prime <= 2^n. < 1475553494 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,3,7,13,31,61,127,251,509,1021,2039,4093,8191,16381,32749,65521,131071,262... < 1475553505 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: lambdabot guesses 509 < 1475553521 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does lambdabot find it? < 1475553540 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even in the first page of results on oeis.org < 1475553543 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it just searches in a huge database of sequences < 1475553569 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what oeis is < 1475553577 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 12 34 56 78 90 < 1475553577 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1475553580 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure it is. < 1475553582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oeis.org/search?q=3%2C7%2C13%2C31%2C61%2C127%2C251 < 1475553600 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it works with commas < 1475553602 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oeis.org/search?q=3%2C7%2C13%2C31%2C61%2C127%2C251&language=english&go=Search < 1475553609 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, commas < 1475553613 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 12 34 < 1475553615 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://oeis.org/A035485 Card on top of deck at n-th stage of R. K. Guy's sh... < 1475553615 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,1,6,5,9,1,4,2,16,10,12,14,23,16,18,20,17,27,30,33,38,10,14,37,32,6,11... < 1475553621 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 12 34 56 < 1475553622 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://oeis.org/A059805 Natural numbers written with digits grouped in pair... < 1475553622 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [12,34,56,78,91,1,11,21,31,41,51,61,71,81,92,2,12,22,32,42,52,62,72,82,93,3,... < 1475553647 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say, that sequence doesn't have an obvious way to continue indefinitely < 1475553652 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it looks like OEIS knew of one < 1475553653 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 01 23 45 67 89 < 1475553654 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1475553686 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 3 1 4 1 5 < 1475553699 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://oeis.org/A000796 Decimal expansion of Pi (or, digits of Pi). < 1475553699 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [3,1,4,1,5,9,2,6,5,3,5,8,9,7,9,3,2,3,8,4,6,2,6,4,3,3,8,3,2,7,9,5,0,2,8,8,4,1... < 1475553734 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: re the minimum wage rise / corporation tax cut, my reasoning was that it's logical that if you're being protectionist wrt workers, you'd want to ensure that all the jobs were filled via increasing pay, as you can't rely on migrant workers any more < 1475553822 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer mercantilism to protectionism. Buy cheap and sell dear, on the level of nationstates < 1475553863 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i buy sheep and sell deer < 1475553905 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I didn't want to make a judgement as to whether protectionism was a good thing, just work out how you'd have to adjust things in the likely event that it's implemented < 1475553925 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a little topological group representation theory is not amiss if you happen to end up a quantum mechanic, repairing other peoples' quanta when they begin to wear out < 1475553927 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lold < 1475553947 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can mak sure you sell lots of finished goods and buy only raw materials, then money will flow into your country... < 1475553990 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: well the UK's exports are mostly services < 1475554088 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Is money flowing into your country a good thing? < 1475554104 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Money isn't even real. < 1475554140 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If real world goods are flowing out of your country and in return some numbers get bigger, is that really to your advantage? < 1475554146 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. if your country has more money, then on average everyone in your country has more moeny < 1475554187 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But money is still not real. < 1475554222 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the time of mercantilism, moeny was gold < 1475554239 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least you can't print gold. < 1475554279 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do a similar thing creating a policy where your country is gathering large amounts of any valuable thing < 1475554294 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gold happened to be the thing in the 1800's < 1475554321 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most countries still have their gold reserves < 1475554332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: What do you think of this crackpot-sounding PDF? http://moslereconomics.com/wp-content/powerpoints/7DIF.pdf < 1475554337 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It starts at page 11.) < 1475554355 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but gold is no longer that useful < 1475554355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says some things that are obviously problematic, but I'm not sure what to make of the overall idea. < 1475554367 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gold has never been that useful. < 1475554373 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would recommend that countries gather plutonium < 1475554384 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: yeah, I mean, there are obviously denser cities, but I didn't feel like it was too sparse or anything... there always seemed to be plenty of stuff to do. < 1475554400 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: What did you think of New York? < 1475554402 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ooh you're the author < 1475554404 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, were you in NY or Boston? < 1475554406 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: ? < 1475554408 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and jsgif is cool < 1475554410 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plutonium stockpiles are very valuable to a country < 1475554411 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :your site < 1475554415 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: I'm not the author of that text. < 1475554419 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :okk < 1475554422 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a reference at the top. < 1475554427 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from a book. < 1475554428 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the author of the description for jsgif? < 1475554447 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were talking about the excerpt from _Mathematics Made Difficult_ < 1475554454 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: It's not bad if you have a car < 1475554455 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a good book. < 1475554463 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Did you read that book? < 1475554477 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a blog? < 1475554478 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now, with the construction, travelling by foot/bus is pretty bad < 1475554524 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well gold used to be useful because eveyone used it as money < 1475554534 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: New York is fun to visit, but it's a bit stressful. < 1475554555 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make a case for countries to crate large stockpiles of american dollars... < 1475554569 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I've been to both NYC and Boston in somewhat recent times < 1475554572 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a PDF (25MB): http://i7-dungeon.sourceforge.net/math_hard.pdf < 1475554577 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or other "safe" currencies < 1475554594 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed re NYC < 1475554697 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1054 < 1475554698 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1054: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1475554761 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why don't people just put a ping on `olist, rather than adding themself to the list? < 1475554797 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe some people do. < 1475554875 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there might be some lists with no official subscribers? < 1475554896 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is what I suggested for `danddreclist too, and use that even if HackEgo won't respond for any reason < 1475554916 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, also with other stuff such as `olist I suggest you can do that kind of stuff. < 1475555417 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: What do you think of that PDF? < 1475555875 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : so why don't people just put a ping on `olist, rather than adding themself to the list? <-- i usually see the `olist in the logs, not in irssi. < 1475555898 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in that case your name isn't pinging you either < 1475555903 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you grep for your name in the logs, I guess < 1475555919 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep is sort-of an after-the-fact log-based version of pinging < 1475555922 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i search for my name in IE hth < 1475555946 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very reasonable as long as it's only one string < 1475556011 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was excited for a moment when the channel was vaguely about esolangs. can we do that again? :P < 1475556041 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were we discussing? < 1475556052 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see my edit to http://esolangs.org/wiki/Black? < 1475556076 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently the interp has vanished and wasn't in the web archive, so I rehosted it; it's not my interp but I happened to have a copy saved) < 1475556386 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been a decade man < 1475556391 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should have proved it TC by now < 1475556478 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's a very vehement exposition of some blindly obvious facts, combined with some bullshit < 1475556480 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been working on it all that time! < 1475556489 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the fact of my edit, and the circumstances surrounding it < 1475556501 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :increase the chance that someone else will prove it TC and save me the bother :-P < 1475556544 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering that you already understand it well enough to write a meaningful program in it means you have a head start on all such people < 1475556578 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but i'll think about it anyway < 1475556619 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I can't tell whether the first part is true. < 1475556838 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i mean, it's obvious that with fiat currency and in particular with electronic money, the government can create as much money as it wants or needs at any time < 1475556853 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that much is obvious. < 1475556866 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except the federal reserve system is very complicated for some reason.) < 1475556883 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But are all the consequences of that obvious? < 1475556992 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, because he made other assumptions < 1475557003 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1475557041 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, people talk about government deficits being bad, and say that a government's spending should be lower than its tax revenue. < 1475557064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475557064 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if money is created only by the government, and you want the money supply to grow, is that really the case? < 1475557071 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :firstly, if a government prints too much money, its citizens will silently rebel by using foreign currencies and barter, not silently suffer < 1475557107 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course there are negative consequences to printing unlimited amount of money. < 1475557127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think there was a claim to the contrary.) < 1475557153 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, money is introduced by many people other than the government. < 1475557215 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but there are a bunch of places where I think he ignores the fact that currencies can start to compete within the economy < 1475557251 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, not all transactions use the official currency of a country, especially when there is dysfunction < 1475557260 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1475557297 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the goals of anyone who makes any sort of currency is to have people trust it. < 1475557370 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not only will other countries not accept your currency, but a government can't actually force its citizens to use a currency < 1475557424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they can require taxes to be paid in that currency. < 1475557430 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so inflation rates have to be kept at a slow and veyr steady amount < 1475557496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think people have been trying unsuccessfully to increase USD inflation. < 1475557625 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-135-074.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1475557648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1475557660 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-135-074.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1475557763 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1475557764 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i made a Black gate that does a thing. maybe it will help. < 1475557789 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the hard part is decrementing variables < 1475557795 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a variable needs to extend past the original area of the program < 1475557811 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that the turning apparatus you need to decrement it needs to be shoved further and further out over time < 1475557822 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the example program on the page is a proof that the decrement is possible < 1475557833 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I felt reasonably confident at that point that it was TC < 1475557864 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm just thinking about building logic gates and circuits and stuff. < 1475557888 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, the control rather than the data < 1475557907 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hadn't thought much about that < 1475557978 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid america and stupid month/day/year dates < 1475558024 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/aappleby/smhasher last commit on jan 9 and the text says "update: 1/8/2016" < 1475558040 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :total wtf for a couple of minutes < 1475558041 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1475558063 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer the japanese/chinese system where each number is labeled < 1475558085 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much any other scheme is better < 1475558137 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: what about century/month/day/yearofcentury? 20/1/8/16 < 1475558149 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the devil < 1475558193 0 :foo_!~foo@c-98-235-65-93.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475558204 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: and then Japanese has an era. H28/8/16 < 1475558222 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably will change soon) < 1475558285 0 :burden--!~foo@c-98-235-65-93.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475558362 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475558404 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3:40 hours till Assange will give his address < 1475558434 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 123 fake street < 1475558446 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowhere, anywhere < 1475558473 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean address as in a speech < 1475558484 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the 10th anniversary of wikileaks < 1475558925 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly dates should give the year number mod 3, 5, 7, 11, and 13 < 1475558938 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll be unambiguous until the year 15016, at least if you know which field is which < 1475559017 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could easily do the same fir month and day < 1475559024 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go fkr it < 1475559051 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a binary clock but with mod results instead of single led < 1475559105 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, remove 3 from the year < 1475559115 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :use 5, 7, 11, 13 for the year, 3 and 4 for the month, 31 for the day < 1475559149 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, the same for everything, otherwise it'd be way too easy < 1475559208 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, what fun is it to see 27th if you can have 2, 6, 5, 1 < 1475559312 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, we could just use the discordian dates < 1475559575 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475559689 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: maybe the day uses 2 and 17? < 1475559696 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475559701 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, hmm, perhaps duplicates are OK < 1475559707 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 and 4 is dubious enough as-is < 1475559742 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using the same primes make a neat table < 1475559782 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, 5,7,11,13 as columns and year,month,day as rows < 1475559824 0 :encodingcollecto!~encodingc@c-73-189-255-150.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475559933 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :til esoteric programming languages are "Langages de programmation exotiques" in French. exotic! now thats classy! < 1475560044 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, I should really work out the details of the language I wanted to work out the details of < 1475560050 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the calesyta esolang challenge still going? < 1475560062 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe in france, esoteric isn't that esoteric < 1475560085 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475560116 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, November 15 < 1475560117 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plenty of time < 1475560242 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475560533 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: There won't BE a world on november 15 < 1475560555 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: is this related to the US elections? < 1475560561 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes? < 1475560576 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the president-elect isn't sworn in until January... < 1475560594 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1475560605 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why do you think the world will end by november 15? < 1475560652 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :trump should at least wait for the release of disney's moana < 1475560656 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :before destroying the world < 1475560684 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :blowing up the planet before that would be a dick move < 1475560714 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at least mildly confident that if it came to a war between the US and the rest of the world, the rest of the world could deal with the problem without accidentally ending human civilisation in the process < 1475560717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: After would be completely fair though; I mean, this is the planet that elected Trump < 1475560728 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he hasn't been elected yet < 1475560734 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You haven't met the US < 1475560738 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is currently projected to have around a 1 in 3 chance of winning < 1475560744 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah < 1475560750 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I know enough about elections to know that they can be determined by completely random stuff < 1475560755 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm worried < 1475560767 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but less worried than I could be < 1475560773 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a vote in the US, and if so, in which state? < 1475560785 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, Hillary's not exactly preferable < 1475560792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No; ineligible for the moment < 1475560796 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can be preferable without actually being good < 1475560811 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah < 1475560822 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather write an IRC client in INTERCAL than Malbolge, but neither is an appropriate choice < 1475560838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think it boils down to being shot in the foot or shot in the head; neither is good, but one isn't going to kill you < 1475560863 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't think it'd be even possible to write it in malbolge; it doesn't do sockets iirc < 1475560874 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :put it in a loop with netcat < 1475560876 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like thutubot does < 1475560883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1475560913 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :REPLs are one thing, but RSERPLs are even better < 1475560923 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Read Send Eval Receive Print Loop- SSH, basically) < 1475560951 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval before receive? < 1475560966 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: eval is done remotely < 1475560968 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, CLC-INTERCAL does have sockets < 1475560977 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and receive isn't? < 1475560984 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the best IPv6 compatibility method I've ever seen < 1475560991 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: As in, data is sent to remote, evaluated there, and the response is sent back < 1475561000 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And printed < 1475561010 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a very good name < 1475561016 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can look up an IPv6 IP as though it were a domain name, or an IPv6-only domain name, and you'll get a fake IPv4 address in response which then gets translated to and from the IPv6 address behind the scenes) < 1475561029 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't it be read send receive eval send receive print loop ? < 1475561038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could say RSRPL+RESL < 1475561041 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"receive eval send loop" is probably the best name for it < 1475561048 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: True < 1475561359 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does any program other than CLC-INTERCAL capable to do such a thing with IPv6 compatibility? < 1475561386 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know of one, although that doesn't mean that there isn't one I don't know about < 1475561437 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd just say remote-repl < 1475561511 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what does remote stand for < 1475561537 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't matter < 1475561562 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"somewhere, maybe but not necessarily here" < 1475561590 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst acronym ever < 1475561620 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because it isn't one < 1475561628 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, INTERCAL is way worse < 1475561652 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that even an acronym? < 1475561657 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sufficiently advanced friendship is indistinguishable from magic < 1475561660 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1475561662 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pronounceable, which would tend to imply not < 1475561673 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, any technology that is distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced < 1475561677 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stands for Programming Language With No Pronouncable Acronym < 1475561693 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe the only official statement along the lines is "INTERCAL is short for Compiler Language With No Pronounceable Acronym" < 1475561703 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which implies that it's an abbreviation, but no necessarily an acronym < 1475561707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: PLWNPA? That's pronounceable. < 1475561717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you have to treat w like old english < 1475561721 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where it can make 'oo' < 1475561731 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's only dubiously a real word (which tends to imply that it isn't an acronym), and it isn't an initialism < 1475561734 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: intercal's not that old, i guess < 1475561746 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 1972 < 1475561777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Would you be surprised if it wanted us to use old English? < 1475561779 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, not "old english" old < 1475561786 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would < 1475561798 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: You clearly aren't in the INTERCALlian spirit then < 1475561815 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :intercal is more of a "look at what you can do" instead of a "look what we moved away from" < 1475561830 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it would be the later, it would still have goto < 1475561831 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERCAL is designed to do things differently from other languages, that is its only real guiding principle < 1475561846 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that this allows doing things better in cases where most other languages mess them up < 1475561861 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, normally all the best options are already taken, thus forcing INTERCAL to choose a worse one < 1475562044 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it doesn't have null pointers, it is still a better language than go < 1475562102 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you possibly don't want to know how INTERCAL's closest pointer equivalents work :-P < 1475562127 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they have null pointers to the same extent that they have multivalued pointers < 1475562150 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some pointer-like constructs have a pointer end up pointing to itself if you attempt to unset it < 1475562269 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOTO is still something that would help in some programming languages which don't have it; in some of these cases they eventually did add goto < 1475562275 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But JavaScript still doesn't yet < 1475562303 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure if goto would be any good in an event based language < 1475562384 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by "event based language" exactly? < 1475563384 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475565075 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea < 1475565082 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a hash function < 1475565089 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can output any amount of bytes < 1475565097 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :take a prng < 1475565117 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :seed it with a fixed value < 1475565170 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then something like uint32_t hash = rng(); while (*data) hash ^= rng() * *data++; < 1475565191 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can be adapted to output a 64 bit hash by calling rng twice in the loop < 1475565204 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 128 bit or 196 bit or 1024 bit < 1475565261 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it stupid? < 1475565526 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :any feedback would be appreciated.. <.< < 1475565526 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not too stupid but it's probably better to use a fixed sequence of values rather than random values < 1475565532 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you get silly behaviour when the RNG outputs 0, or a stream of the same value in a row, etc. < 1475565555 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many actual insecure hash functions use that sort of formula though < 1475565566 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not for crypto < 1475565591 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rng is a way to generate a fixed sequence of decently distributed numbers < 1475565609 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1475565627 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one well-known hash (ISBN check codes) uses the sequence 1, 2, 3, 4, … 10 for the purpose < 1475565639 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm not sure that being decently distributed is required here :-D < 1475565647 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I have a vote in California. < 1475565662 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can't hurt, no? < 1475565663 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not very useful as far as influecing the national election. < 1475565672 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hmm, that's one of the least valuable states to have a vote in, sadly < 1475565678 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it means you could safely screw around with it < 1475565689 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true. < 1475565692 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 2016 < 1475565693 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, influencing the popular vote might potentially help in the case of a close decision) < 1475565745 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's at least one stupid scenario, with a fraction-of-a-percent chance, in which the house of representatives gets to pick between clinton, trump, and johnson < 1475565761 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if clinton doesn't win the popular vote they'll almost certainly go for trump in that situation < 1475565837 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475565848 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :7000/1 is a fraction < 1475567534 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@43.245.203.68 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475568065 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1475568121 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :with that hash function it's easy to generate a bloom filter < 1475568134 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just initialize with n different seeds < 1475568468 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475569046 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475569232 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475569740 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.scribd.com/doc/18093757/Fuckin-Concrete-Contemporary-Abstract-Algebra-Introduction-by-Nicolas-Bourbaki-Junior < 1475569965 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475570046 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475571018 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475571523 0 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:boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: BONUS CHICKEN < 1475584310 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475584344 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475586487 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@43.245.203.68 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475586671 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475587632 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475587667 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475588702 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475588704 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moooo < 1475589034 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gesundheit < 1475589211 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475589297 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475589475 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:fcd7:c615:a149:bac QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475589506 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:fcd7:c615:a149:bac JOIN :#esoteric < 1475590774 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475590814 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475591907 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475594233 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475594429 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :K-Lined < 1475594431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie You know, maybe zemhill_____ should sometimes _subtract_ an underscore hth < 1475594431 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475595232 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subtraction is unsound < 1475595237 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Addition forever < 1475595248 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKAY < 1475595307 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :negative numbers don't even real < 1475595373 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No zero either. < 1475595517 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and these newfangled numbers larger than two are suspect as well. < 1475596368 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475597189 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2 < 1475598124 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: gotta stay positive, I like it < 1475599974 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote different result < 1475599975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :397) There's that saying that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [...] You've just gave me a different result [...] It's always insane to expect different results, even when it's likely to occur. < 1475600696 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475600766 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475600912 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Client Quit < 1475601296 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475601300 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mooo < 1475601379 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475601414 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb `^_^v < 1475601416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels obligated to link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMbXvn2RNI < 1475601432 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475601441 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :special for you < 1475601559 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475603425 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a while... I wonder whether the original swf is still around. < 1475604208 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475604600 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475605108 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475605398 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475605466 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475606283 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you moonythedwarf. your kindness these past few days has warmed my heart < 1475606381 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't heard that song in a while < 1475606427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1475606490 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it bothers me that the song says "he" but the animation shows a "she" < 1475606766 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mahjong < 1475606767 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mahjong? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475607093 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475607297 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475607470 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475607730 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1475607745 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475607867 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475608424 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:fcd7:c615:a149:bac QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475608661 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475608890 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475608969 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475609089 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475609640 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475609655 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be studying the "signs" of a set, which is a mathematical idea of mine (it could already exist, but I haven't heard of it) that ISN'T half-baked < 1475609667 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's essentially a way of generalizing positive and negative numbers < 1475609689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll explain if anyone is interested, once I write down an ACIIable version < 1475609805 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475609980 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, it can't be less half-baked than the "signs" of M. Night Shyamalan < 1475609994 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it 'more half-baked'? < 1475610003 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :'less-than-half-baked'? < 1475610020 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably just 'less-baked' < 1475610177 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'll have to check that < 1475610211 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Ah < 1475610214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was math xD < 1475610230 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Shall I explain them? < 1475610455 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475610489 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back < 1475610505 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Wouldn't a half-baked idea be the baguette of ideas? < 1475610513 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1475610516 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1475611448 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475611652 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475611802 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475612248 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475613075 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475614126 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475614226 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475614229 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :banach-tarski//"Banach-Tarski" is an anagram of "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski". < 1475614722 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1475614723 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475614729 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475614730 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​αλτγρ+γ//αλτγρ+γ is the national dead pastry of Greece. Goes great with a glass of ouzo! < 1475614745 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475614747 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby//Ruby is a programming language from Japan, that eventually decided to support non-ascii characters. < 1475614757 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475614758 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wth//WTH is wavy toe hair. hth. < 1475614762 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475614763 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@//@ is an OS made out of only the finest vapour. < 1475614769 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1475614769 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1475614773 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475614775 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :overworld//The overworld is an alternative name for the world map, used by players of the Zelda video games. < 1475614780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth can also be 'hope that harmed' in some cases < 1475614784 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475614785 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hðh < 1475614785 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :structural subtyping//Not to be confused with substructural typing. < 1475614786 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hðh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475614792 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475614793 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ipu//IPU is an invisible pink unicorn. < 1475614799 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475614800 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :semmelweis//Semmelweis saves the life of a hundred thousand birthgiving mothers by popularising This One Simple Trick. Doctors hate him for it. < 1475614891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn hðh is how hppavilion[n] decides to sæ 'hth' when e's beiŋ annoyiŋ. At least, in a subset of ðose times. < 1475614893 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'hðh': hðh is how hppavilion[n] decides to sæ 'hth' when e's beiŋ annoyiŋ. At least, in a subset of ðose times. < 1475614908 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hðh < 1475614909 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hðh is how hppavilion[n] decides to sæ 'hth' when e's beiŋ annoyiŋ. At least, in a subset of ðose times. < 1475614922 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion[n] < 1475614922 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[n]? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475614926 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion < 1475614927 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion is the generator including, but not limited to, hppavilion[1], hppavilion[2], and hppavilion[42]. hppavilion is of length 37-42i-28j+4k-28ij+38ik+62jk+20ijk < 1475614966 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn hppavilion is the generator including, but not limited to, hppavilion[1], hppavilion[2], and hppavilion[42]. hppavilion is of length 37-42i-28j+4k-28ij+38ik+62jk+20ijk. Not to be confused with hppavilion_n < 1475614969 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'hppavilion': hppavilion is the generator including, but not limited to, hppavilion[1], hppavilion[2], and hppavilion[42]. hppavilion is of length 37-42i-28j+4k-28ij+38ik+62jk+20ijk. Not to be confused with hppavilion_n < 1475615064 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/hðh < 1475615065 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1475615130 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :( < 1475615139 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pointing out that you're being annoying does not free you from any consequences of being annoying. < 1475615156 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1475615156 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anything it does the opposite. < 1475615181 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...fair enough < 1475615190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I felt it'd be useful though. < 1475615201 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For people who get confused if I accidentally slip back into ERA < 1475615222 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I use ERA outside of #esoteric; I only avoid it here out of consideration for the request of those with bad Unicode handling in their clients) < 1475615228 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you felt it'd be funny. < 1475615268 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...that too. < 1475615281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything I do is for humor < 1475615373 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't expecting Semmelweis to be a real person < 1475615390 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Whom? < 1475615405 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, was it a user that recently joined and turned out to not be a bot? < 1475615849 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475615883 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475615898 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no < 1475615907 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom semmelweis < 1475615908 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :semmelweis//Semmelweis saves the life of a hundred thousand birthgiving mothers by popularising This One Simple Trick. Doctors hate him for it. < 1475615918 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually true < 1475615945 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trick was disinfecting their hands before delivering babies < 1475616034 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1475616040 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Oh, huh < 1475616140 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: But why would doctors hate him? It's more chargeable if the mother lives because (a) nasty ethics like "don't make people pay you, at least as much, when you seriously failed" don't get in the way as often and (b) dead men need no doctors (except, y'know, coroners), so they won't be returning customers < 1475616195 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: they hated him for suggesting that a gentleman's hands could possibly carry disease < 1475616206 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1475616215 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475616268 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( They could carry the disease... of love! ) < 1475616666 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475616851 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475616860 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475617257 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475617378 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475618190 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So people apparently sometimes say that Grover's algorithm can be used for "searching a database". < 1475618279 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose I have a "quantum hard drive" that I can store qubits in, but when I'm pulling qubits out, I have to specify the index classically; I can't ask for a superposition of indices. < 1475618331 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way I can store a database on this quantum hard drive such that I can use Grover's algorithm to quickly search it? < 1475618567 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: MDude < 1475618593 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475619899 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1475620177 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I'm not an expert on this, but as I understand it, no; Wikipedia agrees: "Roughly speaking, if we have a function y = f(x) that can be evaluated on a quantum computer, Grover's algorithm allows us to calculate x when given y." < 1475621443 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07VoidLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49857&oldid=49855 5* 03Iovoid 5* (+538) 10Add examples. < 1475621780 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475622105 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1475623436 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475623499 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475623500 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#programming//No such channel. See `? #esoteric < 1475623575 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdon < 1475623575 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wisdon: not found < 1475623577 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475623579 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oregon//Oregon is the home of Oregano. Gregor used to take care of the color scheme, but then he left. < 1475623586 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475623587 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :codoctor//P⚭Q ∧ P ∈ 𝔻𝕣 → Q ∈ 𝔻𝕣* < 1475623607 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475623609 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :northumberland//Northumberland may be today a sparsely populated country... but SOON! THE NORTHUMBRAINS SHALL RISE! < 1475623616 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475623617 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh//heh stands for hope ectoplasm helps. < 1475623624 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475623625 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the universe//The universe was invented by Taneb as an opposing force to oerjan. Escardó proved that it was indiscreet. < 1475623632 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475623633 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try//There is no try. < 1475623638 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475623640 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finland//Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least nine of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. < 1475623646 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475623647 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dynamic-wind//dynamic-wind is the opposite of static-wind. < 1475623868 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\. please be advised that nothing can oppose oerjan hth < 1475623879 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475623881 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke//Jokes are no drug. < 1475623885 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475623887 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fire//Fire, fire, everywhere, nor any drop to drink. < 1475623984 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475623985 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scotland// it's that place where they all wear kilts and chase haggises around whilst warding off the loch ness monster with bagpipes < 1475624031 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475624127 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coily < 1475624135 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elloerjan < 1475624160 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :intopia < 1475624227 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia, hellørjan. < 1475624250 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION opposes oerjan. FOR SCIENCE! < 1475624255 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily. i have found the universe quite efficient at opposing me, actually. < 1475624264 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION opposes boily < 1475624287 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION refuses to oppose either, on principle < 1475624321 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you opposing opposition? < 1475624349 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER < 1475624360 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1475624370 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not totally opposing boily, i just think he hasnt given vocaloid a completely fair shot. < 1475624378 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets hit by the falling anvil. it's been a while... < 1475624464 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oppose is when you reverse all the 2-cells in a pose? < 1475624499 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : quintopia: Wouldn't a half-baked idea be the baguette of ideas? <-- . o O ( baguette derivatives ) < 1475624518 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no its when you give a pose the permission to kick people from the channel < 1475624531 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475624540 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :speak of the devil < 1475624545 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :speak o... oops < 1475624570 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : quintopia: Wouldn't a half-baked idea be the baguette of ideas? <-- . o O ( baguette derivatives ) < 1475624591 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell us aboit set signs then hppavilion[1] < 1475624650 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: itym posse hth < 1475624687 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that would be opposse < 1475624704 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :opossible < 1475624830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: OK < 1475624831 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is confuzzled. < 1475624868 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Signs are basically a way of generalizing positive and negative (and zero) numbers that I'm playing with < 1475624883 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a heffalomp or wuzzle / is very confuzzle < 1475624916 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a set S and a magnitude function (which is basically a more general absolute value) #x : S -> T that may or may not need to satisfy some properties that I haven't found to be needed yet < 1475624949 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they come in ones and twoosels. < 1475624950 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Assume for now T is a subset of S. Other cases are possible, of course, but I'm ignoring those for now) < 1475624995 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(#x must be defined for ALL elements of S) < 1475625098 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a heffalomp or wuzzle's very sly < 1475625112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So for many definitions of #x, there will be several values x, y where x /= y, #x = #y (by the pigeonhole principle, definitely any where T has lesser cardinality (which is, by the way, a possible definition of #) than X) < 1475625118 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion < 1475625119 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion is the generator including, but not limited to, hppavilion[1], hppavilion[2], and hppavilion[42]. hppavilion is of length 37-42i-28j+4k-28ij+38ik+62jk+20ijk. A common alternative definition is the set of all items yielded by the general case of the generator. Not to be confused with hppavilion^k or hppavilion_m. < 1475625126 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1475625138 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sign basically is what makes those values different. < 1475625170 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well...all of that seems rather obvious, but how is it useful? < 1475625189 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, y'know, when your set is Z and magnitude is just normal absolute value, -1 /= 1 but |-1| = |1| = 1 < 1475625198 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yeah, that's what I'm looking for < 1475625232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This feels like one of those things that HAS to be useful (not random babbling), but I don't know of an exact application < 1475625245 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think I might have had one in mind earlier, but I've forgotten it if so) < 1475625253 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? heffalump < 1475625254 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heffalump? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475625269 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! < 1475625271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unacceptable < 1475625274 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: But the point is that sign can be something more than just + - 0; you can have arbitrarily many of them < 1475625298 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can even have a cosign for every sign. < 1475625305 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...yes, you could < 1475625317 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably, let's be honest, that's going to come up eventually < 1475625347 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you're doing complex numbers, you have uncountably many if you use normal absolute value for magnitude; the signs represent points on the unit circle) < 1475625411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A heffalump is similar to a lump of sugar, but with honey instead. < 1475625413 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'heffalump': A heffalump is similar to a lump of sugar, but with honey instead. < 1475625428 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Oh, and even if you just use Q, you can find alternative similar interpretations to positive and negative that are very different. < 1475625441 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that wisdom entry is very confusil < 1475625455 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1475625474 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? woozle < 1475625475 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woozle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475625480 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hefelump is a lump of sugar fermented with yeast < 1475625506 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: is that a pun or just a mispling < 1475625534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using mfloor(x) instead of abs(x), sign becomes any number n/m : m in N*, n in N, -1 ≤ n ≤ 1 < 1475625563 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hefe as in hefeweizen < 1475625640 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1475625648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't heard that term before. < 1475625689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really want a thing similar to saying positive/negative/zero, but multiplicative instead of additive; positive-analog is abs(x) > 1, negative-analog is abs(x) < 1, zero-analog is abs(x) = 1 < 1475625737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: are you sure you mean abs there < 1475625748 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes. abs as in absolute value. < 1475625766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1475625806 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I could call them "superlative", "sublative", and "one", perhaps) < 1475625845 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475625914 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, the sign of n indicates whether lim(lambda x: n^x, omega) is 0, ±infinity, or... whatever it is when n = 1 or n = -1 < 1475625927 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: how about contractile and dilatory and one < 1475625939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yes! Great! < 1475625952 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ile/ive/ < 1475625956 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...are those existing words or did you come up wiht that? < 1475625976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: s/ory/ive/ < 1475625984 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: maybe you should learn linear algebra by watching these videos: https://www.khanacademy.org/math/linear-algebra/eola-topic/eola/v/eola-preview < 1475625987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard they're good < 1475625988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure of that. < 1475625991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can confirm or deny it < 1475626008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was to hppavilion[1]) < 1475626027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ty < 1475626057 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh! I think I'm already subscribed to the guy who makes that series, and I've been meaning to watch them! < 1475626100 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why not dilatve? < 1475626110 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe. < 1475626122 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just don't think dilatory is wrong. < 1475626127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can watch them right now. They're only about an hour, and split into separate segments. < 1475626130 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very visual. < 1475626138 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More consistent < 1475626140 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1475626141 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe a little too visual.) < 1475626151 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was using words that have other meanings on purpose < 1475626154 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host86-191-55-36.range86-191.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: impomatic_ < 1475626155 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe a little bit too matrix-focused. But I'm not sure about that. < 1475626181 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm neither is contractile, indeed. < 1475626181 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :dilatory means "delaying" contractile refers to muscle tissue < 1475626326 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Well, also dilation in the sense of what they do to make your eyes bigger < 1475627339 0 :vifino-!~vifino@tty.sh QUIT :Quit: Who turned this off?! D:< < 1475627361 0 :vifino!~vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1475627882 0 :vifino!~vifino@tty.sh QUIT :Quit: Who turned this off?! D:< < 1475627907 0 :vifino!~vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1475628821 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Did you play Scowder & Web? < 1475629301 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475629914 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1475630071 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475630294 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475630562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...the quote on video #3 is "Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself." -Morpheus < 1475630571 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(about 4 millishachafs) < 1475630665 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, are shachafs an absolute measurement of pun (dimension P), or is it P/E (where E is the dimension of effort)? < 1475630712 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus meaning even a REALLY funny joke gets a low score if it's two obvious, and something not very funny gets a high score if it takes some thinking to find it (but not to understand it)? < 1475630739 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess it'd be P/E^2 in that case, if we want to measure effort to make it vs. effort to get it) < 1475630877 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My name is not a unit, please. < 1475631077 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475631091 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, s/shachafs/grumpychafs/ < 1475631127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No word ending in chaf is a unit, please. < 1475631159 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh, right < 1475631175 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do "shagrumpies" trigger it? < 1475631322 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unit symbol is «Sh» hth. < 1475631425 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about: "grumps" or "groans" < 1475631432 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or oys. < 1475631448 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As they say: The beauty of the pun is in the Oy of the beholder. < 1475631471 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION experimentally thwacks shachaf. 0.63 groans. < 1475631478 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works. < 1475631983 0 :Moony!53f95932@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.249.89.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475632080 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i liked shachaf, but i guess this new unit may groan me. < 1475632199 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION THWACKS oerjan. 0.94 groans. < 1475632257 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pun reaches 1.0 when it can make a groan man cry < 1475632280 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by the way i like the pun but i don't like the anti-crying masculinity scow) < 1475632283 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(crying is great) < 1475632630 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thwackthwacks shachaf. 0.945 groans < 1475632703 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1475632705 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Only sane man" boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist. < 1475632728 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd boily//s/Man/Groan Man/ < 1475632730 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/boily//"Only sane man" boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Groan Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist. < 1475632843 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the fact Trigotillectomic is a hapax googlegomenon that directly points to me :D < 1475632866 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never read that word. < 1475632886 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It always looked too complicated so I pretended it was "Trigonometric" or something and skipped it. < 1475632901 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather < 1475632902 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK < 1475632905 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 050000Z 00000KT 15SM SKC 15/10 A3031 RMK SLP268 \ ENVA 050050Z 11005KT CAVOK 03/01 Q1046 RMK WIND 670FT 14007KT \ ESSB 050050Z AUTO 35005KT 9999 NCD 04/02 Q1043 \ KOAK 050053Z 28011KT 10SM < 1475632905 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :FEW020 20/11 A2998 RMK AO2 SLP150 T02000106 < 1475632981 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 is warm! < 1475633084 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 is cold < 1475633142 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :brrr < 1475633302 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a spaceheater lobbing service. you enter your ICBM coordinates on their website, and they trebuchet you a warmed up heater. < 1475633854 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475634287 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475634288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :endofunctor//Endofunctors are just endomorphisms in the category of categories. < 1475634291 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475634292 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :loudly//Did you mean: 04,09l09,04o04,09u09,04d04,09l09,04y < 1475634293 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475634295 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :persistence//Taneb invented persistence long ago, and it's been around ever since. < 1475634295 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475634297 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman//mroman is a leading artist in password security (SFW). He also likes black madness. He can design password hashes that are worse than the identity function. He invented the identity function. He's also an artist in unconventional warfare. < 1475634442 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: GLUE CHICKEN < 1475634859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea to make a small amount of energy more impressive: Express it as a volume (in km^3 (or k(m^3) to make it even bigger)) of average space in the universe where, at the universe's average density, the mass in that space has E (by E = mc^2) equal to the energy < 1475634978 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, invented the identity function? < 1475634981 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use that one all the time. < 1475635026 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo identity | cat | cat | cat | cat < 1475635027 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :identity < 1475635063 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what IS a hash worse than the identity function < 1475635076 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: \x.0 < 1475635078 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i putting the cat before the hose < 1475635096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ...fair enough? < 1475635105 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the identity function is actually a pretty good hash if your input is restricted enough < 1475635118 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java probably uses the identity function as Integer#hashCode, for example < 1475635119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: And if people shouldn't be able to derive the input from the hash < 1475635129 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a cryptohash, different field < 1475635142 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Same idea, different subfield < 1475635169 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1475635172 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suspects the proper mathematical answer to "what's a worse hash" requires that you formally define badness... < 1475635188 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but speed hashes and cryptohashes are normally very different in design and the considerations for them are pretty much completely different < 1475635193 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I decided on a better notation for "is a divisor of" today < 1475635218 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only middle ground I can think of is speed hashes that use a randomized algorithm to stop people intentionally colliding them to trigger algorithmic worst cases < 1475635269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Created by analogy that the subset symbol is like less-than-or-equal-to, strict subset like less-than, superset is like greater-than-or-equal-to, and strict superset is like greater-than < 1475635282 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Divisor is like 'element of'. I guess. < 1475635308 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a < with a stroke from the initial to the midpoint of the endpoints < 1475635400 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :⪪ < 1475635411 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⪪ < 1475635412 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2AAA SMALLER THAN] < 1475635448 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`icode ⪬ < 1475635448 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2AAC SMALLER THAN OR EQUAL TO] < 1475635467 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⪤ < 1475635478 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how does `icode differ from `unidecode? < 1475635485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are the same. < 1475635496 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1475635500 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Levenshtein 4 < 1475635501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The joke is unicode -> icode < 1475635507 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1475635508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Granted, the only real appeals are completing the symbolic analogy, freeing up | for logical things (when you should already be using ∨ for OR and ⊼ for NAND), and being mirrorable < 1475635543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode [U+2AAC SMALLER THAN OR EQUAL TO] < 1475635546 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0000 \ UTF-8: 00 UTF-16BE: 0000 Decimal: � \ . \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) \ \ U+0001 \ UTF-8: 01 UTF-16BE: 0001 Decimal:  \ . \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) \ \ U+0002 \ UTF-8: 02 UTF-16BE: 0002 Decimal:  \  \ Category: Cc (Other, C < 1475635557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...you lied to me < 1475635563 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+2AAC < 1475635563 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⪬ < 1475635567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(clearly, unicode = icode^-1) < 1475635687 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1475635766 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Matrices annoy me just a tiny bit because of their limit to 2D < 1475635796 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Matrices are linear maps between vector spaces of any dimension. < 1475635805 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, that's how I'm learning it < 1475635813 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I mean how they're WRITTEN in 2D < 1475635817 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is like saying that functions annoy you because there's only a domain and codomain. < 1475635824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, but... < 1475635826 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want multi-argument functions, they are available. < 1475635826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fine* < 1475635840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though technically, it's LITERALLY saying that) < 1475635841 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so are multi-argument linear maps. < 1475635849 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yay? < 1475635859 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tensors might be what you want. < 1475635863 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that too < 1475635864 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or they might not, who knows. < 1475635866 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried learning that once < 1475635871 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do a matrix fairly tolerably in 4D by treating it as a matrix where the individual values are themselves matrices < 1475635876 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think all the math works < 1475635882 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a bilinear function : UxV -> W is the same as a linear function : U⊗V -> W < 1475635905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And you can multiply them by normal matrices and call it scalars!) < 1475635906 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A linear map : U -> V is also the same as an element of the vector space U*⊗V < 1475635946 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dim (U⊗V) = dim U * dim V) < 1475636319 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475636676 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475637150 0 :foo_!~foo@c-98-235-65-93.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475637809 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since there's matrix multiplication, there must be division; but it isn't commutative, so... Oh my god. Are there TWO division operations for matrices? A/B = C : BC = A and A\B = C : CB = A? < 1475637820 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1475637849 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither the first nor the last statement is trur. < 1475637852 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1475637854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? trurl < 1475637855 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trurl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475637859 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1475637889 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the last is true. < 1475637943 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475637946 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although hm < 1475637954 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? < 1475637962 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think matrices are even a quasigroup. < 1475637972 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if B isn't invertible, then division might not be uniquely defined. < 1475637980 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1475637984 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Jafet < 1475638033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically because you can add any C' such that BC' = 0 (or vice versa) < 1475638057 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course it might not exist to begin with. < 1475638085 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but _if_ B is invertible, there may be two division operations. < 1475638179 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: summary: division need not exist, it need not be unique when it exists, but if it exists and is unique, you might still have two operations like you say. < 1475638265 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it'll probably be clearer to write BA^-1 or A^-1B? < 1475638382 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could still have division without having an inverse, sometimes. < 1475638656 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, hi < 1475638660 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot about that message < 1475638697 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :drive-by messaging < 1475638712 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well I was bound to come back at /some/ point and read it < 1475638754 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Full disclosure: I was already aware that you can have two different division operations; I found that out when reading through the Octave docs when I tried to learn Octave. But I'm confident I would've said the same thing if I didn't already know and had managed to brain-stumble into division) < 1475638785 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1475638901 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1475638926 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION injects \oren\ with morphine < 1475638973 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's even morphinedish < 1475638999 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to stop oerjan, but is too late; that was hyper-concentrated #esoteric-grade morphine for use on Venezuelans and those who dare challenge fungot, and the amount administered would be a lethal dose to a horse < 1475639000 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i agree with sukoshi. why i use directed quotes in underload < 1475639001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he seemed pain, so i wanted to help him feel morphine < 1475639010 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in pain < 1475639040 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :何で「鉛筆」は鉛で書いた？ < 1475639049 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can you please teach hppavilion[1] to babble more coherently < 1475639049 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mainly because i don't use the plural of " anecdote" is not fundamentally better than computers solving impossible problems, religious people should not comment on mathematical issues < 1475639073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: whoa whoa whoa, vivid drone change < 1475639094 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, it's me who used directed quotes in underload, that must be what fungot was referring too < 1475639094 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well then i guess it's not a macro. if you < 1475639152 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they must have known demn well that a pencil doesn't have any lead metal in it < 1475639155 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That quote was certainly directed at you. < 1475639163 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But my coherence mathematically approaches 0 as time goes to 0. I can't resist it. < 1475639168 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*referring to < 1475639176 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they still wrote "pencil" with the kanji for the metal lead! < 1475639214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now for a question of genuine interest to me, mostly because of some cryptographic applications: There are k! ways to arrange a list L of k distinct items. Which is which? That is, find a way to bijectively map numbers from 1 to k! to rearrangements of the list < 1475639264 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Fisher shuffle < 1475639275 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the usual way to biject that < 1475639285 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: en:pencil = no:blyant, en:lead = no:bly hth < 1475639287 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Biggest interest: Giving every monoalphabetic english cypher a unique name from 1 to 403291461126605635584000000) < 1475639289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ty < 1475639294 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I was about to explain that, then I remembered there's a name for it. "fisher shuffle" < 1475639301 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, you divide the number by k, the remainder gives the new position of the first list elemetn < 1475639319 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ARGH < 1475639320 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you divide the result of the division by k-1, the remainder gives the new position of the second list element within the remaining slots < 1475639321 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1475639327 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Huh, that works < 1475639332 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:bdc1:6279:7a41:aaf7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yeah, it's like a completely different unit < 1475639337 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: There's no natural isomorphism between permutations and total orders on a set. < 1475639362 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well yes, what I'm going for is one that doesn't require you to just write every single one down < 1475639366 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: this doesn't need naturality, though, just a bijection < 1475639366 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably this number thing is along the same lines. < 1475639375 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1475639393 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously there are 2**k! bijections, but the Fisher shuffle one is the one that everyone uses in practice < 1475639413 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it even satisfies the thing I was hoping for where the original is shuffle #0! Yay! < 1475639436 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, #1, but I shifted everything off by 1 to make things start at 0- as it should be) < 1475639556 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: also de:Bleistift vs. Blei < 1475639584 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: conclusion, at some time in history pencils _did_ use lead, and some languages named them based on that < 1475639682 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have some graphite in my skin from a pencil many years ago. < 1475639774 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: oh, if i'm reading german wikipedia correctly, it was a misunderstanding, people confused graphite with galena < 1475639906 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: itym (k!)! hth < 1475639943 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, yes < 1475639943 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :k!! < 1475639944 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's a big number < 1475639950 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming k is not trivially small) < 1475640264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencil#Discovery_of_graphite_deposit < 1475640381 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fascinating section) < 1475640602 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's assume a world where you can't hardlink directories and bind mounts don't exist etc < 1475640625 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how costly would it be to save in each directory the total size in bytes of all the files in its subtree? < 1475640968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No, (k!)! < 1475640971 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not k!! < 1475640986 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference? < 1475641021 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: k!! is the product of all numbers in 1..k that have the same parity (even or odd) as k < 1475641036 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard of that but ok < 1475641062 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Merserve had to ruin notation for everyone with a stupid ambiguous- scratch that, unambiguous and with obvious meaning that isn't what he used- notation < 1475641212 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, seriously, if you wanted that, at least have the decency to make it general; like, x!,n is the product of all integers k : 0 < k <= x where k%n = 0 < 1475641223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(!, being crappy shorthand for the exclamation pause) < 1475641542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way k!! can be superfactorial :P < 1475641571 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1 < 1475641620 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'd go with superfactorial being written n!_k (or, well, general superfactorial; normal factorial is when k=1, superfactorial is k=2, and general case is k=whatever) < 1475641795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definition: n!_0 = n, 0!_k = 1, n!_k = (n!_(k-1)) * ((n-1)!_k)!_(k-1) < 1475641822 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Obviously, now we have a 0^0 problem again with 0!_0, which looks like an emoticon) < 1475641835 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? emoji < 1475641836 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emoji? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475641841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? emojus < 1475641842 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emojus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475642159 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? python < 1475642159 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :python? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475642165 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lol < 1475642166 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475642171 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ego < 1475642171 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ego? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475642176 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esoteric < 1475642177 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet. < 1475642187 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nothing < 1475642188 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing would have been better than to create this wisdom entry. < 1475642407 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1475642408 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's a 7-codimensional hyperenchilada about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1475642689 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have entries about any other channels? < 1475642693 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #haskell < 1475642694 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#haskell? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475642711 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd expect the entry to say that they didn't exist, and then go into details about what they were like < 1475642713 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ##nomic < 1475642713 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​##nomic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475642723 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls "wisdom/#*" < 1475642724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/#*: No such file or directory < 1475642740 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls "wisdom/#"* < 1475642741 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/#esoteric \ wisdom/#esoteric-blah \ wisdom/#programming < 1475642744 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1475642747 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #programming < 1475642748 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such channel. See `? #esoteric < 1475642762 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric-blah < 1475642763 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric-blah blah blah. Blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah! < 1475643308 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1475643357 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: yopumpkin < 1475643368 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi! < 1475643414 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's life < 1475643438 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone was complaining about how you can't define a category of Agda functions easily because function equality isn't extensional. < 1475643453 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then we looked at your categories thing but it turned out to be parameterized on an equivalence relation too. < 1475643513 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ##ais523 is the channel for all things ais523 < 1475643550 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that channel even exist? :-P < 1475643558 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It does now, apparently < 1475643564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just shachaf though < 1475643565 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has two #s so it's not up to me to influence it < 1475643728 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're at least as entitled as anyone else is. < 1475643792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :entitlement(u('ais523'), chan('##ais523')) ≥ 1/occ(chan('##ais523')) < 1475643818 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s,occ,#occ, < 1475643860 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, if #occ means "number of occurrences", does "##ais523" mean "number of numbers of ais523s"? < 1475643884 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, but not when in quotes < 1475643889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When in quotes it's just a name < 1475643916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the value of ##ais523? < 1475643926 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it equal to #ais523 or is it 1 or something else? < 1475643944 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if #ais523 is uniquely defined, then ##ais523 is 1 < 1475643952 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Also, occ : Chan -> {User} means occupants, and # is magnitude (which is cardinality for sets but is absolute value for numbers) < 1475643967 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1475643976 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess ##ais523 is the absolute value of my height < 1475643992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So #occ(chan('##ais523')) reads "number of people currently in channel '##ais523'" < 1475644002 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is your height negative? < 1475644018 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :positive numbers have absolute values too < 1475644038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but could ANYBODY's height be negative? < 1475644045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVER? < 1475644065 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1475644071 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you define height as y coordinate of head minus y coordinate of feet while standing upright < 1475644077 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's theoretically possible but unlikely < 1475644079 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hint: No, height is in |R^+, and that's before you account for the Planck length) < 1475644086 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, height is oriented. < 1475644091 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 'upright' must be defined < 1475644107 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm treating "standing upright" as a phrase < 1475644141 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1475644145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose clowns have negative height if we allow handwalking to count as standing upright... < 1475644183 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What I was going for was confirming that Australians don't have negative height < 1475644227 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why assume that it's Australians who are upside-down, rather than everyone else? < 1475644242 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :occam's aussie. < 1475644252 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Convention. < 1475644258 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Australians are obviously not upside down. < 1475644264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're facing away from the center of the planet. < 1475644265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also: Africa) < 1475644271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, head-pointing away. < 1475644281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Right, it's more diagonal I guess... < 1475644295 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, at this very moment, that there may be an australian that's locally upside-down. < 1475644317 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: Thank you for smartassing it for me :D < 1475644334 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: always a pleasure. :) < 1475644337 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome imode < 1475644338 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13imode: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07EFnet 08or 09DALnet.) < 1475644353 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I'm very well aware of esolangs. :P < 1475644393 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice bot though. dig the colors. < 1475644447 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting further back on topic, I decided to work on this language that I've been thinking about for a while for the CALESYTA contest < 1475644467 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a while, I thought it was sub-TC in a particularly interesting way < 1475644477 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I realised it's probably actually TC in an even more interesting way < 1475644488 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the model? < 1475644493 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tarpit < 1475644510 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :data's stored in stacks of bits < 1475644525 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably shouldn't say too much, though, not sure if the contest allows spoilers < 1475644558 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for anyone who's interested in esolangs and missed the announcement: http://calesyta.xyz/en/) < 1475644592 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that's interesting. < 1475644615 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hoping that the contest is a success, it's rare that people other than us create one < 1475644675 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :just means that esolangs are growing more numerous and popular! < 1475644710 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh. I always assumed the Criterion of Embarrassment was made up by Zach Weiner for a joke. < 1475644715 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounded like a joke. < 1475644813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Do you know some good vector spaces without a natural basis? < 1475645072 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: R over Q hth < 1475645200 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :finite-dimensional twh < 1475645211 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of coure it's easy to come up with infinite-dimensional ones. < 1475645216 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fin-dish < 1475645224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i should've specified it tdh < 1475645263 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the pointed euclidean plane hth < 1475645284 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1475645436 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta wonder if any esolangs have been created as productivity enhancers. sort of like shorthand programming. stack machines are good for that sort of thing. < 1475645475 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :a small virtual machine I can use with one hand tied behind my back. < 1475645646 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made one that is sort of like a shorthand C < 1475645665 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it didn't end up being very good < 1475645754 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc mroman created burlesque in that way. < 1475645791 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, today's girl genius is definitely weird, soldier < 1475645925 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1475645978 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1475646056 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475646867 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what "argentinian features" are < 1475647320 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MY GOD < 1475647334 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"DONALD" translates, approximately, to "world ruler" < 1475647995 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475648062 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always knew there was something fishy about that duck < 1475648620 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my mother might be a little drunk... < 1475648662 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Too many ties to Walt Street? He's literally the nephew of Scrooge McDuck, it turns out... < 1475649695 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nplfznvakenpijyh QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475649988 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sjksncdglnzedrrs JOIN :#esoteric < 1475650254 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475650373 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really like the album with music inspired by the life and times of scrooge < 1475650682 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475650760 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i set english as the main language everywhere < 1475650770 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i do often search italian things < 1475650779 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason google seems to think that i'm spanish < 1475650794 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure why < 1475650797 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even speak spanish < 1475650817 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i know why, it's because italian and spanish are similar enough to confuse it < 1475650829 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, i'm disappointed < 1475651258 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1475651411 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475651790 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475652280 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: except that scrooge McDuck earned his money in the gold rush, not on wallstreet < 1475652318 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it turns out" < 1475652345 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there is a german magazine called donaldist, being an acronym < 1475652370 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with sruff like scientific papers around the donald universe < 1475652457 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: notice the spelling of 'Walt' < 1475652675 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's it called when you have two functions f, g where f(x)*g(x) = x? (distinctly NOT inverse; reciprocal, maybe, but it's really more general than just reciprocals, because sgn and abs satisfy this) < 1475652906 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reciprocal would be (f*g)(x) = 1 < 1475652919 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd just say their (point-wise) product is the identity function. < 1475652986 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (abs * signum) [-5..5] < 1475652988 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1475652988 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Ambiguous type variable ‘b0’ arising from a use of ‘show_M756589516162... < 1475652988 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : prevents the constraint ‘(Show b0)’ from being solved. < 1475653001 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let import Data.NumInstances < 1475653004 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1475653005 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (abs * signum) [-5..5] :: [Integer] < 1475653007 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4,5] < 1475653668 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1475653683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's also the case that id * signum = abs < 1475654008 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475654075 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475654697 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1475654744 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, if you use integers and define magnitude as 2rtz(x/2) in my system, you deal with parity :) < 1475655579 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :K-Lined < 1475655827 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475655932 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475656324 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475656374 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475658031 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, abs is the integral of sgn < 1475658235 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ...so it is. < 1475658305 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Wait, no it isn't < 1475658334 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1475658355 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Because- at least according to Wikipedia- the area below the x-axis subtracts from the total of the integral < 1475658377 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION might be missing something < 1475658386 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah < 1475658400 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more area than integral, indeed < 1475658454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an operation for absolute integral? < 1475658515 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, you could do \integral{a}{b}{|f(x)|dx} probably, but do you really want to?) < 1475658588 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1475658606 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why isn't abs the integral of signum? < 1475658636 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the area below the x-axis subtracts from the total of the integral", and indeed abs is decreasing to the left of 0 < 1475658717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, but you would get negative values < 1475658720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm pretty sure) < 1475658744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1475658753 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Integrating from where? < 1475658781 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OK, just to check, we're looking at the area under sgn(x) from 0 to x, right? < 1475658795 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1475658814 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, well, the area between the x-axis and sgn(x)) < 1475658816 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course when you're going from 0 to a negative number that reverses the sign < 1475658820 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1475658864 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the area is negative, because values below the x-axis subtract from the total (whereas values above add) < 1475658919 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, sgn(x) for negative x = -1 < 1475659001 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think I was going somewhere with an example, but I've forgotten it < 1475659053 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-(-x) = x hth < 1475659065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes... < 1475659099 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But we aren't judging from which side of the y-axis; only the x-axis < 1475659150 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you misunderstood. < 1475659167 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :∫_a^b ... = -∫_b^a ... hth < 1475659191 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you should read about how this integration thing works. < 1475659194 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh? < 1475659197 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am reading about it < 1475659203 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1475659269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and derivative of abs is OBVIOUSLY sgn... of course... < 1475659343 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( note to self: integrate floor(x) ) < 1475659417 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: You were right the first time < 1475659705 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475661124 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Function call without parameters 5* 10New user account < 1475662043 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49858&oldid=49854 5* 03Function call without parameters 5* (+240) 10 < 1475662047 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Function call without parameters14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49859 5* 03Function call without parameters 5* (+601) 10Created page < 1475662286 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Function call without parameters14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49860&oldid=49859 5* 03Function call without parameters 5* (+248) 10 < 1475662344 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Function call without parameters14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49861&oldid=49860 5* 03Function call without parameters 5* (+16) 10 < 1475662395 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Function call without parameters14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49862&oldid=49861 5* 03Function call without parameters 5* (+74) 10 < 1475662607 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting name < 1475662910 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Function call without parameters14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49863&oldid=49862 5* 03Function call without parameters 5* (+286) 10 < 1475663571 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Function call without parameters14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49864&oldid=49863 5* 03Function call without parameters 5* (+584) 10 < 1475663827 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Function call without parameters14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49865&oldid=49864 5* 03Function call without parameters 5* (+264) 10 < 1475664258 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475667270 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475667873 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475667976 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475667977 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeeeeeeeeesh//See yeeeeeeeeesh. < 1475668146 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/ye* < 1475668147 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/yeeeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/yeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/yeeeeeesh \ wisdom/yeeeeesh \ wisdom/yeeeesh \ wisdom/yeeesh \ wisdom/yeti < 1475668164 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeeesh < 1475668165 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See yeesh. < 1475668181 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/yeeesh < 1475668183 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie evilipse tswett < 1475668203 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeesh < 1475668204 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475668212 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett tswellott. there ain't a two "e" yeeesh. please correct. < 1475668212 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475668212 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1475668223 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mynamello. 'tis sad :/ < 1475669851 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475669852 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zork//Zork is like York, except for the first letter. Uaneb invented it. < 1475669937 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475670344 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: DEPTH CHICKEN < 1475671260 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? uaneb < 1475671261 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uaneb? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475671265 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointed < 1475672495 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475672892 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc5-lewi14-2-0-cust1.2-4.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475672892 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc5-lewi14-2-0-cust1.2-4.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1475672892 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1475673295 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1475673312 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475674811 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475675169 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :<\oren\> hppavilion[1]: they hated him for suggesting that a gentleman's hands could possibly carry disease < 1475675185 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they hated him for going on a one-man crusade to overturn the entire theory of disease at the time < 1475675219 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think overall I am glad he did that < 1475675224 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(who are we talking about) < 1475675631 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanea < 1475675631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanea plays Minecrafs, Dware Fortresr, and lives in Yorj. < 1475676373 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I don't see how that thing from Wikipedia rules out being able to search a quantum hard drive. < 1475676419 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475677404 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475677929 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Nukes327 5* 10New user account < 1475679064 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: for Grover's algorithm you need to allow a superposition as input. < 1475679184 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but can we do something more clever than just using the hard drive itself as the function? < 1475679269 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475679283 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe this hard drive contains a superposition of all records, repeated a billion times. < 1475679316 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so maybe your function can consist of grabbing one of the copies of that superposition and doing something interesting with it. < 1475680219 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I'm no expert. I believe the fundamental issue is that your quantum computation cannot compute any addresses for your classically addresssed storage (since that would not be reversible), so all these addresses have to be static; I (intuitively) expect that a dimensional analysis will tell that you need to query a significant fraction of the encoded database in the computation of the... < 1475680225 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...quantum function. < 1475680305 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dimensional referring to the dimension of the various vector spaces (Hilbert spaces, I think?) where the quantum states live) < 1475680479 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: and sorry, I have no time (or energy) to dig deeper into this to actually justify these ideas more rigorously. < 1475680520 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like you know what you're talking about. < 1475680704 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's definitely not enough to be certain. < 1475680731 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm feeling more like a one-eyed king right now ;) < 1475681002 0 :iovoid!?@? NICK :[io] < 1475681010 0 :[io]!?@? NICK :iovoid < 1475681446 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475681663 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475681929 0 :sirnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1475681937 0 :sirnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475682141 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1475682266 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1475683424 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? uaneb < 1475683425 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uaneb? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475683505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Uaneb is the inventor of many fine things, such as Zork and e-modules. < 1475683507 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'uaneb': Uaneb is the inventor of many fine things, such as Zork and e-modules. < 1475683541 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lean E-modules are modules over a web ring. Uaneb invented them. < 1475683541 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: lean: not found < 1475683546 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn E-modules are modules over a web ring. Uaneb invented them. < 1475683548 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'e-module': E-modules are modules over a web ring. Uaneb invented them. < 1475683781 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanea < 1475683783 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanea plays Minecrafs, Dware Fortresr, and lives in Yorj. < 1475683787 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475683793 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm might be a bit of an inflation here < 1475683858 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :are these successors and predecessors? < 1475683897 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Saneb is too normal to invent things, but he likes to watch SV. < 1475683899 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'saneb': Saneb is too normal to invent things, but he likes to watch SV. < 1475683903 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW THERE ARE < 1475684025 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Saneb is too normal to invent things, but he likes to watch SV and play Vorld of Varcraft. < 1475684027 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'saneb': Saneb is too normal to invent things, but he likes to watch SV and play Vorld of Varcraft. < 1475684214 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Tanea was already one, i guess. < 1475684258 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn tanec/Why would there be a Tanec, that's ridiculous! < 1475684260 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «tanec» < 1475685621 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475686706 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475687272 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Queack14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49866 5* 03Function call without parameters 5* (+19) 10Redirected page to [[Deque]] < 1475687364 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janus_(time-reversible_computing_programming_language) < 1475687368 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently this is a thing < 1475687411 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I wrote "these", not "there", btw... but good effort. < 1475687494 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turned out OKAY < 1475687520 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But I'm sure that Tanec is tanecious. < 1475687578 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ligtly brushes int-e with the swatter -----### < 1475687584 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+h < 1475687643 0 :pecan!pecan@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:55e8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475687680 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: see: landauer's law. also there was a reversible chip... < 1475687705 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stretches lazily and nonchalantly scratches oerjan's eyes out. < 1475687724 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EEEK < 1475687741 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've put a lot of effort into working out the computational properties of stack languages < 1475687744 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about queue languages? < 1475687786 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: a queue is enough for TC-ness < 1475687807 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1475687815 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :just one binaey queue? < 1475687819 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :*binary < 1475687820 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh would you mind terribly to smash your last two lambdabot commits into one and force-push to update the pull request? < 1475687832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: see BCT. < 1475687849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, because i'm not actually running git on my computer. < 1475687863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just edited straight in github's editor. < 1475687871 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh. < 1475687897 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION upgrades his estimate of oerjan's level of craziness. < 1475687912 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sweet < 1475687990 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475687992 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mooo < 1475687995 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bct < 1475687996 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bct? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688001 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? int-e < 1475688002 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e är inte svensk. Hen kommer att spränga solen. Hen står för sig själv. Hen gillar inte färger. < 1475688008 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :????? < 1475688025 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? evilclipse < 1475688026 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilclipse? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688029 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? evilipse < 1475688029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilipse, the most obnoxious of evil people, likes to use chmod 000 / -R < 1475688037 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn BCT is short for Bored Cat Transform, an effective compression technique for curtains and sofas. < 1475688039 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'bct': BCT is short for Bored Cat Transform, an effective compression technique for curtains and sofas. < 1475688073 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh interesting < 1475688081 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? firefly < 1475688082 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. < 1475688083 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(context: for some reason BCT reminded me of BWT) < 1475688102 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b_jonas < 1475688103 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas egy nagyon titokzatos személy. Hollétéről egyelőre nem ismertek. < 1475688106 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1475688107 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I object to that firefly entry < 1475688109 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds factual < 1475688140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh tmux has done that thing again where it breaks input and makes it invisible < 1475688150 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: wisdom entries should always carry a certain level of surprise. < 1475688151 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: feel free to replace it with something more amusing < 1475688159 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: true < 1475688163 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? TS < 1475688164 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigfpe cupThere's no rule against factuality. < 1475688164 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TS? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688169 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1475688186 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :siThere's no rule against factuality. < 1475688188 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn TS is Twilight Struggle, another name for the Cold War. For many years, it was the highest-rated entry on WarGeek.com. < 1475688190 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 't': TS is Twilight Struggle, another name for the Cold War. For many years, it was the highest-rated entry on WarGeek.com. < 1475688194 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite the opposite. < 1475688204 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? t < 1475688204 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TS is Twilight Struggle, another name for the Cold War. For many years, it was the highest-rated entry on WarGeek.com. < 1475688205 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ts < 1475688206 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TS is Twilight Struggle, another name for the Cold War. For many years, it was the highest-rated entry on WarGeek.com. < 1475688208 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1475688211 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1475688212 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unlearn t < 1475688213 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: unlearn: not found < 1475688217 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :something is broken. < 1475688224 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475688235 0 :encodingcollecto!~encodingc@70.1.60.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475688241 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/learn < 1475688242 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\?[:;,.!?]\? .*//') \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$1" >"$(echo-p "wisdom/$topic")" \ echo "$verb '$topic': $1" < 1475688254 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? t < 1475688255 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TS is Twilight Struggle, another name for the Cold War. For many years, it was the highest-rated entry on WarGeek.com. < 1475688260 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, plural < 1475688268 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/t{,s} < 1475688270 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1475688294 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? teneb < 1475688294 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :teneb? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688296 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1475688297 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1475688307 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did the term 'tanebventions' come from? < 1475688311 0 :encodingcollecto!~encodingc@70.1.60.29 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475688316 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb invented it < 1475688321 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1475688322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, Windows 98, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1475688337 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lol < 1475688339 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? math < 1475688340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Math class is tough! < 1475688348 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weetoflakes < 1475688349 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weetoflakes are something Taneb invented; they taste sort of purple. < 1475688354 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? metar < 1475688355 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metar is a service Taneb invented that allows nerds to talk about the weather. < 1475688360 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? universe < 1475688361 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A universe is a poem in one stanza. < 1475688368 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION approves < 1475688370 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teneb is almost a star in the system Swan < 1475688371 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? automatic squirrel feeder < 1475688372 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Automatic squirrel feeders are just feeders in the category of automatic squirrels. Taneb invented them. < 1475688377 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1475688385 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? necessity < 1475688386 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If necessity did not exist, it would be necessary for Taneb to invent it. < 1475688389 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Go < 1475688390 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go is a common irregular verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes catching monsters in the strategic territories of East Asia. < 1475688404 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Windows 98 < 1475688405 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows 98? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688414 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? windows 98 < 1475688414 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows 98? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688423 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? submarine jousting < 1475688426 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Submarine jousting is unexplainable. < 1475688457 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475688475 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475688481 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :inexplicable? < 1475688512 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? explanation < 1475688512 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :explanation? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688537 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :had to kill all tmux. this might mean that tmux isn't actually protecting me against disconnections any more :( < 1475688545 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that's when this tends to happen. < 1475688564 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? invention < 1475688565 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :invention? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688576 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /me < 1475688577 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, "blanket" would perhaps be a good name for a "screen" replacement < 1475688578 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/me? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688582 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? me < 1475688583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me is a proud member of the tEaM. < 1475688612 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b_jonas < 1475688613 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas egy nagyon titokzatos személy. Hollétéről egyelőre nem ismertek. < 1475688620 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? APic < 1475688620 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688624 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? apic < 1475688624 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688627 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you rock the boat too hard, the strong team may turn into yummy meat. < 1475688627 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? epic < 1475688628 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :epic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688638 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? digital < 1475688638 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :digital? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688643 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fractal < 1475688644 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractal? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688657 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt know what a fractal is. wat < 1475688667 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall the EPIC failure. < 1475688671 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fizzie < 1475688672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky king of #esoteric, see https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg < 1475688685 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? door < 1475688686 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :door? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688691 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weechat < 1475688692 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weechat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688708 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? irc < 1475688708 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC is short for "Internet Relay Chat". It is named so because all the servers are constructed from relays. < 1475688713 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn fractal/There used to be an entry for "fractal", but it burst into a thousand pieces which subsequently got lost. < 1475688716 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «fractal» < 1475688736 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fractal < 1475688738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There used to be an entry for "fractal", but it burst into a thousand pieces which subsequently got lost. < 1475688746 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? piet < 1475688746 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​6Piet 4is 7a 8really 9colorful 2programming 13language. < 1475688756 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 100 < 1475688757 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :100? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688758 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 101 < 1475688759 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :101? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688761 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 9001 < 1475688762 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9001? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475688763 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 1337 < 1475688764 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1337 15 50 905 < 1475688809 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i personally wonder if the universe could be considered reversable... < 1475688822 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a overly complex billard ball machine. < 1475688847 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* int-e upgrades his estimate of oerjan's level of craziness. <-- it was just a handful of lines, and last time i _had_ git working on my computer i had to send it in for repairs hth < 1475688850 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn fractal/There used to be an entry for "fractal", but it burst into a thousand pieces (whose dimension was approximately sqrt(3)) which subsequently got lost. < 1475688852 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «fractal» < 1475688864 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc < 1475688870 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 1 \ at frink.parser.Frink.parseArguments(frink) \ at frink.parser.Frink.main(frink) < 1475688873 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc sqrt(3) < 1475688877 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: undefined symbol "sqrt". \ 3 sqrt (undefined symbol) < 1475688883 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1475688888 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 1+1 < 1475688889 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish all this bot spam wasn't in here. < 1475688892 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1475688900 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to follow the interesting bot commands and it's a real mess. < 1475688908 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn fractal/There used to be an entry for "fractal", but it burst into a thousand pieces (whose dimension was approximately sqrt(3)) which subsequently got lost in a Mandelbrot-shaped singularity. < 1475688910 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «fractal» < 1475688922 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is done! < 1475688924 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a esoteric bot channel? < 1475688949 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can /query it < 1475688959 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an #esoteric-overflow? < 1475688969 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/an/a/ < 1475688988 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The channel isn't join-throttled or limited, so probably not < 1475689016 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's what -overflow channels are usually for, I think) < 1475689019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's already #esoteric-blah for the purpose of bot spam and that sort of thing. < 1475689034 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i personally wonder if the universe could be considered reversable... <-- that's the prevailing consensus afaik < 1475689035 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: in #haskell it's for "overflowing" discussions... just to have a place where they can continue < 1475689067 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: so that's what I had in mind, not an overflow of people. < 1475689070 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which consenus? < 1475689098 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? consensus < 1475689098 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits necessity < 1475689099 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :consensus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475689100 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie evilipse shachaf shachaf < 1475689143 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh, I see < 1475689145 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Nobody agrees on the true meaning of "consensus". ) < 1475689168 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cookie < 1475689169 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hackego wants a cookie! *hangs* < 1475689200 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like the old virus known as 'the cookie monster' (look it up < 1475689208 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) has shown up again :P < 1475689220 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: Set-Cookie: sessionToken=abc123; Expires=Wed, 09 Jun 2021 10:18:14 GMT < 1475689359 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits shachaf < 1475689362 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf fizzie evilipse boily shachaf Elronnd Elronnd shachaf oerjan oerjan oerjan elliott mrhmouse mrhmouse ais523 ais523 oerjan elliott FreeFull oerjan FreeFull oerjan FreeFull oerjan elliott shachaf shachaf nitia < 1475689380 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilipse is evil. he has laid his mark on every file hackego has :P < 1475689392 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits canary < 1475689393 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan fizzie evilipse int-e b_jonas b_jonas shachaf shachaf moon_ shachaf shachaf shachaf shachaf shachaf moon_ oerjan shachaf oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan ais523 shachaf ais523 oerjan oerjan ais523 oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan ais523 ais523 ais523 shachaf int-e oerjan elliott ell < 1475689402 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? evilipse < 1475689402 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1475689404 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evilipse, the most obnoxious of evil people, likes to use chmod 000 / -R < 1475689405 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1475689409 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits canary < 1475689413 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan fizzie evilipse int-e b_jonas b_jonas shachaf shachaf moon_ shachaf shachaf shachaf shachaf shachaf moon_ oerjan shachaf oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan ais523 shachaf ais523 oerjan oerjan ais523 oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan ais523 ais523 ais523 shachaf int-e oerjan elliott ell < 1475689414 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1475689414 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1475689435 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is canary a /dev/null clone or something? < 1475689459 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `^_^v < 1475689460 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`^_^v ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475689464 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : it sounds factual <-- that's the point of it, really. < 1475689465 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `^_^v < 1475689465 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`^_^v? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475689471 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? \oren\ < 1475689472 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\oren\ is an attempt to improve upon oren. The only thing it actually improved was name recognizability, and it made everything else... well, there isn't much else in a nick, is there? < 1475689487 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oren < 1475689487 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a and other shady characters. < 1475689508 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? alphabet < 1475689509 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alphabet? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475689512 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? abc < 1475689512 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475689514 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? a < 1475689515 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters. < 1475689519 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b < 1475689520 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :B is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're even worse than the BBC and drop strange letters altogether. < 1475689528 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? c < 1475689529 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1475689529 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn alphabet is a system of writing invented by Google. < 1475689531 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'alphabet': alphabet is a system of writing invented by Google. < 1475689543 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d < 1475689544 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D is a letter in the alphabet! It's also the name of a programming language. < 1475689546 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? e < 1475689547 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475689561 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. it doesnt know who e is. < 1475689569 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn e is a freenode admin < 1475689571 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'e': e is a freenode admin < 1475689585 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :notice: please improve entry < 1475689587 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? f < 1475689588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475689589 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? g < 1475689590 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :g? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475689613 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: all known fundamental laws of physics are reversible. < 1475689632 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and quantum mechanics doesn't really work any other way. < 1475689709 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? google < 1475689710 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google is where people are working on [NAME WITHHELD] and [REDACTED], without being evil at all. < 1475689958 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rules of wisdom < 1475689959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. All words mentioned in a wisdom entry MUST have a wisdom entry. 2. Insert more wisdom here < 1475690025 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? is < 1475690025 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475690075 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn rules of wisdom/All words mentioned in a wisdom entry MUST have a wisdom entry. fact: this entry is breaking the rules < 1475690077 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «rules of wisdom» < 1475690109 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475690161 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd alphabet//s/./A/ < 1475690163 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/alphabet//Alphabet is a system of writing invented by Google. < 1475690270 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475690271 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg rules of wisdom < 1475690272 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-10-05 le/rn rules of wisdom/All words mentioned in a wisdom entry MUST have a wisdom entry. fact: this entry is breaking the rules \ 2016-10-05 le/rn rules of wisdom/1. All words mentioned in a wisdom entry MUST have a wisdom entry. 2. Insert more wisdom here < 1475690298 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: um it's generally frowned upon to change HackEgo contents in private hth < 1475690355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd e//s/$/. E is not known to be an Agora player. < 1475690355 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 43: unterminated `s' command < 1475690360 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd e//s/$/. E is not known to be an Agora player./ < 1475690363 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/e//e is a freenode admin. E is not known to be an Agora player. < 1475690384 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475690391 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/calc < 1475690392 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie jeffl35 tswett tswett shachaf shachaf elliott elliott nitia < 1475690400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/calc < 1475690401 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/calc: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable < 1475690406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/calc < 1475690407 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec /hackenv/lib/frink -e "$@" < 1475690410 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1475690419 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/frink < 1475690420 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec /hackenv/lib/frink -e "$@" < 1475690429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1475690444 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 1 lightyear -> furlong < 1475690448 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2586589991010459/55 (approx. 4.702890892746289e13) < 1475690464 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo has become speedy enough to run frink again :) < 1475690545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475690570 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1475690603 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the maintainer of Janus owns tetsuo.jp * gets Akira vibe < 1475690638 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: problem? < 1475690718 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie jeffl35 tswett tswett shachaf shachaf elliott elliott nitia < 1475690733 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg bin/calc < 1475690734 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1475690736 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bug Computer14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49867 5* 03Function call without parameters 5* (+5450) 10Created the page < 1475690741 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag bin/calc < 1475690742 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ping me like that please < 1475690743 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-09-25 revert 58b9ee8f97a7 \ 2016-09-25 ` rm --no-preserve-root -rfv / # testing, plz no ban \ 2015-06-21 revert \ 2015-06-21 rm bin -r \ 2012-04-08 revert 0 \ 2012-04-08 run rm -rf bin/* \ 2012-03-22 run rm bin; mv test bin \ 2012-03-22 run mv bin test; touch bin \ 20 < 1475690793 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: ^ < 1475690803 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? all < 1475690803 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475690838 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm i guess that's a disadvantage of using ^O for ping prevention - many clients won't copy it. < 1475690845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(including mine) < 1475690898 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn All that glitters is not gold. < 1475690900 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'all': All that glitters is not gold. < 1475690905 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's wisdom, right? < 1475690905 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i'll leave it to you to add ping prevention to [hd]o[wa]g < 1475690918 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: yep. < 1475690954 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bug Computer14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49868&oldid=49867 5* 03Function call without parameters 5* (+249) 10 < 1475691036 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1475691109 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: That's iggrammatical. < 1475691116 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be "all those glitters are not gold" < 1475691117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1475691138 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :os < 1475691866 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god my teacher is completely illogical < 1475691875 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He had a prompt for "is fighting ever the best option" < 1475691891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he argued "It's never the best option, but it's sometimes your only option" < 1475691899 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes absolutely no logical sense < 1475692118 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1475692134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49869&oldid=49858 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (+241) 10 < 1475692201 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I recommed not majoring in english or philosophy then < 1475692226 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: English has to make logical sense, or you might as well not talk < 1475692228 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :logic is nowhere to be found in those disciplines < 1475692470 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475692579 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475692660 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes jeffl35 < 1475692800 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:GHOST14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49870 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (+129) 10Created page with "What are the specs of the language? ~~~~" < 1475692861 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar PAMR < 1475692862 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :PAMR 051653Z 00000KT 10SM BKN080 04/M01 A3009 RMK AO2 SLP192 T00391006 < 1475692900 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if you expect logic everywhere, I recommend some sort of science major. don't even minor in a humanity or a social science < 1475692943 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475692983 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475693002 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475693087 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes hppavilion[1] with unlogical facts < 1475693110 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? logic < 1475693111 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :logic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475693117 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? logical < 1475693117 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :logical? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475693123 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? science < 1475693124 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semi-automatic text generation. < 1475693131 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? major < 1475693131 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :major? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475693133 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? minor < 1475693134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minor? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475693140 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475693141 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°​_o)/¯ is a misspelling of ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1475693169 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1475693170 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1475693179 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1475693200 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _knew_ the 'missspelling' entry had a little truth. < 1475693203 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1475693204 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1475693213 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not? < 1475693248 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; echo */* < 1475693249 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\_(ツ)_/¯ le/arn le/rn ¯\(°_o)/¯ ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475693264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le/rn < 1475693264 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past. < 1475693270 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475693271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°​_o)/¯ is a misspelling of ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1475693276 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That joke is deprecated. :-( < 1475693280 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1475693280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1475693288 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ < 1475693289 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is the ¯\(°​_o)/¯ of urbandictionary < 1475693366 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? urbandictionary < 1475693367 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urban Dictionary is an alternative, inferior wisdom database. < 1475693376 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yeah, pretty much. < 1475693405 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion[1] < 1475693406 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] se describe en las notas al pie. ¿Porqué no los dos? Nadie lo sabe. No es tan cluecless. < 1475693408 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jeffl35 < 1475693408 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35 ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475693418 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ? < 1475693419 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? is wisdom < 1475693422 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1475693426 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? moonythedwarf < 1475693427 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475693429 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? moonythedwarf < 1475693430 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475693431 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ! < 1475693433 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​! is a syntax used in Haskell and Prolog for solving evaluation order problems. < 1475693435 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? . < 1475693435 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: .: Is a directory < 1475693436 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jeffl35 the entry for me is 'moon' < 1475693436 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? @ < 1475693437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35 the entry for me is 'moon'? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475693437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ is an OS made out of only the finest vapour. < 1475693443 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? .. < 1475693443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¿ < 1475693443 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: ..: Is a directory < 1475693444 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¿? ¿? ¿? ¿? ¿? < 1475693444 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? moon < 1475693445 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon is a murderous lunatic, not an unretroreflectorey object. He sometimes causes overmoonification. < 1475693450 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tomfoolery < 1475693451 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomfoolery is always factually inaccurate. always. < 1475693456 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tmflry < 1475693456 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: tmflry: cannot execute: Is a directory < 1475693458 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /bin/bash < 1475693459 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>.....LB.....@.......€Û.........@.8. .@.........@.......@.@.....@.@.....ø.......ø................. ...8......8@.....8@............................................@.......@.....lF.....lF....... ............ÈM.....ÈMn.....ÈMn.....Ȍ......`è........ ...........àM.....àMn.....àMn.......................... .. < 1475693463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery hi < 1475693464 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /bin/sh < 1475693464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking. < 1475693464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>.....|$@.....@.......¨š..........@.8..@.........@.......@.@.....@.@.....À.......À................. ...........@......@............................................@.......@.....Ē......Ē........ ............Ȓ......Ȓa.....Ȓa.....ø.......3........ ...........ð’......ð’a.....ð’a..... ....... .............. .. < 1475693466 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man. < 1475693470 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1475693472 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475693475 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lel < 1475693475 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1475693482 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /bin/f < 1475693482 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/f? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475693485 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bin/f < 1475693486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/f? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475693490 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ? < 1475693490 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? is wisdom < 1475693494 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /bin/cat < 1475693495 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>.....'@.....@.......Ã..........@.8. .@.........@.......@.@.....@.@.....ø.......ø................. ...8......8@.....8@............................................@.......@.....”½......”½........ ............à½......à½`.....à½`.....¼ ......°........ ...........ø½......ø½`.....ø½`.....à.......à.............. .. < 1475693498 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which ? < 1475693499 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/? < 1475693502 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat /dev/urandom < 1475693503 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /hackenv/bin/? < 1475693504 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/noooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnoooo < 1475693507 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /dev/urandom < 1475693508 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​­¹õÙU%û»¸=å€'>ámÈí¤Î—ðÁ³Oiý¾y—M•\¤-Îsy,î,ÀiÙEwZ‘ª¶Œå,èÑ«£óǝ]œI üpTC§=‰”¢.ÖA›`G@Ûð.|$eˆfRµ‡DG*s+½|t⦤ê| ‘f8Y늞¹:·iª™¨ƒ%]`6ë%­!ì² ½ª+ NÔBHøD·(÷”»)C—©«G»û¼‘zºLš•~ò.mîÈåŠ^¾cÇ¢:¾[\‹ðü·ôå´ÌY›MŸÏ6z<»™~š&`Ÿ-H\Ò¢ÙVM,šƒxšãΩF—gøM’Ñ?ÚX.¢Îc@O;žJ•\¹VfßÞ´?ÒäŒÐKí©%¨7™©‚ßõ A*%(.H¬x“ù!“ïæ½›Ž’¨»ü]¬]ޓK«‘ßÛᾀøžÂ Íñ < 1475693510 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lel < 1475693512 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The spam will never end as long as jeffl35 and moonythedwarf are here. < 1475693516 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475693517 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475693519 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please stop printing bells into the channel. < 1475693520 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :the beatings will continue until morale improves. < 1475693523 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rnooooooooooooooooodl < 1475693525 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're all being really annoying right now. < 1475693532 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1475693532 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: take it to a query < 1475693534 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooooops < 1475693540 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not realize bells < 1475693543 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1475693547 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shuts up < 1475693549 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u8tbl 0x400 0x480 < 1475693549 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ЀЁЂЃЄЅІЇЈЉЊЋЌЍЎЏ \ АБВГДЕЖЗИЙКЛМНОП \ РСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯ \ абвгдежзийклмноп \ рстуфхцчшщъыьэюя \ ѐёђѓєѕіїјљњћќѝўџ \ ѠѡѢѣѤѥѦѧѨѩѪѫѬѭѮѯ \ ѰѱѲѳѴѵѶѷѸѹѺѻѼѽѾѿ \ Ҁ < 1475693550 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs < 1475693556 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even without the bells. < 1475693573 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo noodl | rnoodl < 1475693573 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: rnoodl: command not found < 1475693579 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo noodl | rnooodl < 1475693580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noodl < 1475693581 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo noodl | rnooodl < 1475693583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noodl < 1475693586 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo noodle | rnooodl < 1475693587 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noodle < 1475693588 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo noodle | rnooodl < 1475693589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noodle < 1475693592 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` e? < 1475693592 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475693593 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: e?: command not found < 1475693600 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're just spamming. < 1475693608 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: take it to a query < 1475693609 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?spam < 1475693610 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?spam: not found < 1475693613 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spam < 1475693614 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam is a delicious meat product. See http://www.spamjamhawaii.com/ < 1475693615 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodl < 1475693619 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1475693624 0 :jeffl35!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION actually shuts up now < 1475693626 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35: take it to query please. < 1475693648 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives shachaf a bulletproof glass case. inside of it is a banhammer < 1475693674 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give it to oerjan instead. < 1475693676 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives shachaf a second case, inside of it is a boot < 1475693680 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has good judgement. < 1475693696 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION steals the cases and locks them in a safe before giving them to oerjan < 1475693705 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: it may be bulletproof but it's more likely to be attacked with a mapole. < 1475693717 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1475693718 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6’ by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg. < 1475693788 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? maple < 1475693789 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maples are the sacred trees of Canada, from which a true Canadian can make anything. < 1475693800 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 666 < 1475693801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :666? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475693924 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery hth < 1475693925 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth means "hope that helps" < 1475693930 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery btw < 1475693930 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking. < 1475693941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery c++ < 1475693942 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is an attempt to improve upon C. The only thing it actually improved was memory management, and it made everything else worse. < 1475693954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery < 1475693954 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have nothing to tell you. < 1475694044 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid QUIT :Quit: Iovoid has quit! < 1475694061 0 :iovoid!iovoid@1.ipv4.aegir.superbnc.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475694068 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what tomfoolery is supposed to be. < 1475694070 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes iovoid < 1475694082 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that c++ is neither accurate nor funny. < 1475694085 0 :iovoid!?@? NICK :Guest16955 < 1475694130 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery c < 1475694130 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking. < 1475694133 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery C < 1475694133 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking. < 1475694136 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery shachaf < 1475694137 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking. < 1475694141 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery tomfoolery < 1475694141 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomfoolery is wisdom < 1475694145 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: You're still spamming. < 1475694150 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops sorry. < 1475694203 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475694206 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: c++ is not considered funny in general < 1475694222 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say, it is almost as hilarious as java2000 < 1475694225 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1475694241 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1475694318 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475694403 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475694525 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? java < 1475694526 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java is a programming-language shaped collection of misfeatures. < 1475694564 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1475694565 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL A PUPPY EVERY DAY. < 1475694578 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf :D < 1475694589 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there different ones? < 1475694640 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1475694641 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL A PUPPY EVERY DAY. < 1475694647 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1475694703 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were originally, but I deleted all of them but that one. < 1475694703 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls evil < 1475694704 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :313 < 1475694716 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's in the file evil/313? The answer may surprise you! < 1475694735 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :donald ducks car? < 1475694762 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: why did you delete them? :P < 1475694767 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat evil/313 < 1475694768 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kill a puppy every day. < 1475694773 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could annoy shachaf a bit and put a symlink to /dev/urandom in there < 1475694786 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: because they were too evil. < 1475694798 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was afraid that they would inspire evil in someone. < 1475694802 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: there is no such thing < 1475694802 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I think the idea is evil enough by itself and should not be put to preactice) < 1475694816 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or practice < 1475694826 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may sound like I am joking, but I am being completely serious. < 1475694841 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s /dev/urandom evil/123 < 1475694843 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1475694844 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1475694845 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL A PUPPY EVERY DAY. < 1475694846 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't believe you < 1475694847 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1475694848 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL A PUPPY EVERY DAY. < 1475694849 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1475694849 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1475694850 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL A PUPPY EVERY DAY. < 1475694850 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​æí˜ \ 9(”ÕI€9Rd}‰g+WûßÇ鱒ÝWJXVnÔ3 L¸Óu­¶$ZšÏ[t¯:$¼¦Úý"po½­É„>ݕí…D/ò©:ʏ:h­œ‘‘@7Ûò&ôÍ o°¼Zg.:¦¯Æ¿yHtŒ†Þ [°Œåÿ\Ñ?—oãŠöׁ»„kiM.Ø、€@úĬ>^x#AÓËWè­T¦ìo©¯ãJŒ‚8ÿI{I gŠæ©Cb"Y÷ÙÇ_ŽÙhà“ŽÜóìȼ¥6áLS¿Ê°„0]ﳨÖVç=֛Åy?BÁ Å @c˜.ë²'‡`ÍS6Ï¢õ ȯ“d¦§-ñêL‘lC̶bxdè+R54ºÔÙèÑ2ô8ãjI&ÊðLeä ƒ. Ý5Ê9Êd&H”ì;ÀŸ9(´”xptè îJW¢• < 1475694858 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat evil < 1475694859 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: evil: Is a directory < 1475694865 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/evil < 1475694865 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat "$(find evil -type f | shuf -n1)" | tr '[:lower:]' '[:upper:]' < 1475694877 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat evil < 1475694878 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: evil: Is a directory < 1475694881 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls evil < 1475694882 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :123 \ 313 < 1475694888 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not opening 123. < 1475694905 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/evil < 1475694906 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat "$(find evil -type f | shuf -n1)" | tr '[:lower:]' '[:upper:]' < 1475694907 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: are the old ones somewhere? < 1475694909 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, type f, good! < 1475694915 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1475694917 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1475694917 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL A PUPPY EVERY DAY. < 1475694920 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1475694920 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL A PUPPY EVERY DAY. < 1475694926 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1475694928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`good < 1475694928 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a way out. Finding it will be difficult. It may be the hardest thing you've ever done. Find it anyway. < 1475694932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`eh < 1475694932 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: eh: not found < 1475694934 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`neutral < 1475694935 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: neutral: not found < 1475694942 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: yeah, they're in the Mercurial history. < 1475694953 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm evil/123 < 1475694955 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1475694963 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a webview or something? < 1475694974 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably... < 1475694978 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know where. < 1475694993 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, we need 9 of them; `(lawful|neutral|chaotic)-(good|evil|neutral) < 1475694996 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste evil/313 < 1475694997 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/evil/313 < 1475695000 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-135-074.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sticks his nose in to see who’s outputting bells again. < 1475695002 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ there is your webview < 1475695002 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1475695002 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL A PUPPY EVERY DAY. < 1475695019 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi < 1475695022 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: someone tricked `? into catting /bin/bash :P < 1475695046 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, someone's got a better link. < 1475695075 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1475695100 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: howso? I /cleared the channel because blinkenlights < 1475695110 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get how you go back long enough < 1475695132 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-135-074.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: And then apparently someone asked for ngevd. < 1475695133 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1475695204 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here we go. I found the evil. < 1475695255 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1475695298 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: you are bound to restore it! < 1475695304 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just give us a link ^_^ < 1475695316 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475695322 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes Phantom_Hoover < 1475695324 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`giac < 1475695325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: giac: not found < 1475695335 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to the oldest revision of evil/313 and then found the commits around that time. < 1475695348 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: link? < 1475695375 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here it is. http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/shortlog/5ed26e5ea046 < 1475695387 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "good" stuff is really a lot less punchy. < 1475695486 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you get these < 1475695542 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:98b2:97cf:5cac:c3b9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475695543 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, they are boring < 1475695594 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Third dimension of character alignment: Blind, Neutral, Reformed < 1475695601 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made them all up. < 1475695733 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1475695822 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: if you want real evil. see what Dwarf Fortress players sometimes do. *points towards wiki article on catsplosions, which contains info about butchering kittens* < 1475695866 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blind is when a character has their primary alignment (LNC/GNE) because they're just *supposed* to, Reformed is when they were TOLD they're supposed to and rejected it < 1475695895 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You could actually split that into 2 axes, one for lawfulness and one for dickishness) < 1475695896 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :df <3 < 1475695899 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conventional catsplosions are an insidious poison which operate by using a lethal psychological attack known as "Cuddly Wuddly Syndrome". < 1475695900 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Dwarves, ordinarily content to manage an overpopulation of cats by employing butchers, tanners, soapers, leatherworkers, bone carvers, and < 1475695902 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : cooks, may suddenly find themselves appropriated by a cat who employs mind control waves in order to take the dwarf hostage. The dwarf, now < 1475695904 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : considering the cat its pet (when in fact the opposite is true), is no longer able to butcher the cat and will absolutely not tolerate anyone < 1475695906 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : butchering his "bewuv'ed cuddlebug". Through this psychological technique, an insurgent is thereby successfully implanted into the fortress. < 1475695914 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still thinking of wether or not i should think of a multiplayer mode < 1475695921 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: I've been playing Rimworld. In the colony I've put the most time into, the single biggest food source has probably been human flesh. < 1475695936 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: jeffl35 set up a noVNC server that runs a copy of DF < 1475695936 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you could also add zealousy- tentative, neutral, zealot (how extreme; how hard it is to make them compromise or convert) < 1475695943 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: http://dwarf-fortress-jeffl35.c9users.io/vnc.html?host=dwarf-fortress-jeffl35.c9users.io&port=80 < 1475695943 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which you could divide into 2 again for the main alignment < 1475695947 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :password is 'tptisawesome' < 1475695950 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no token is needed < 1475695956 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: i meant in my attempt of a df like < 1475695967 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah\ < 1475695970 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... 729 possible alignments. < 1475696018 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is: the only real multiplayer thing i can imagine for a df like is a quick 1vs1 with a definite winner or loser after a certain time and you just remove the game at that point < 1475696019 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whenever a wounded person falls from the sky, I usually just leave them to die so I can eat them later. < 1475696021 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though I would prefer that all 4 be put in an interval <-1 -> 1 > as well) < 1475696055 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if yoz put them at an interval, there is no need for your lasz dimension < 1475696111 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, 1 evil is never to be made good, 0.5 evil may be < 1475696142 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: OK...? < 1475696171 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can have a person who is good because they *want* to be, but *could* cut a deal. < 1475696172 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprise, spam from moonythedwarf < 1475696174 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam spam spam < 1475696176 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PART #esoteric : < 1475696179 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :scam < 1475696341 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cazaam < 1475696367 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sends shachaf to sleepy land < 1475696623 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@96.9.69.5 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1475697049 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1475697094 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gun < 1475697094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gun? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475697578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475697656 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475697999 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: So d abs(x)/dx = sgn(x), right? < 1475698233 0 :jeffl35!?@? NICK :jeffl42 < 1475698296 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What's the equivalent of a cone for cubics? A quadratic equation in 2 variables is a conic section, so a cubic equation in 2 variables is a what-ic section?) < 1475698602 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475698670 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :moony42 < 1475699235 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpDn4-Na5co < 1475699411 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:98b2:97cf:5cac:c3b9 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475699891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475700271 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475700445 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475700718 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc88067-wiga13-2-0-cust35.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475701890 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475701982 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475702088 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475702547 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475702767 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have just made a horrifying hack of code for making arbitrary measurements of angle < 1475702905 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475702906 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a function that accepts key/value pairs (name -> div) and yields a set of key/value pairs mapping input keys (names) to classes that represent an angle when you treat it as 1/div of a circle, and each measure can be converted to any other made in the same batch with its attribute < 1475702969 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475703000 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1475703318 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475706134 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1475706181 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1475706437 0 :Guest16955!iovoid@1.ipv4.aegir.superbnc.com QUIT :Quit: Iovoid has quit! < 1475706554 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1475706675 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475706701 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475706864 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the < 1475706865 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Toe of Harriness's Enclosure < 1475706870 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, autocorrect < 1475706882 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the < 1475706882 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Toe of Harriness's Enclosure < 1475706884 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUUUUU < 1475706939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? teh < 1475706940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :teh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475707084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn teh/"teh" is the neuter cognate of the common-gender "the". < 1475707087 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «teh» < 1475707476 0 :iovoid!iovoid@1.ipv4.aegir.superbnc.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475707500 0 :iovoid!?@? NICK :Guest75921 < 1475707887 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1475708068 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so "teh" can only be used on things that are neither male nor female? < 1475708186 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1475708192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No, things with grammatical GENDER of neither male nor female < 1475708208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, emphasize 'GRAMMATICAL' over 'gender' < 1475708213 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. almost everything in English? < 1475708221 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sf/grammatical/gender/ < 1475708230 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No, everything in english has common gender. < 1475708235 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally different. < 1475708259 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :names of people don't < 1475708281 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, oh, I see < 1475708307 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm having problems putting it into words < 1475708324 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the appropriate pronoun for something that's explicitly neuter in English? "it"? < 1475708337 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably common gender is starting to use singular they < 1475708502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475708703 0 :Guest75921!iovoid@1.ipv4.aegir.superbnc.com QUIT :Changing host < 1475708703 0 :Guest75921!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1475708742 0 :Guest75921!?@? NICK :iovoid < 1475708772 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1475708793 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475709051 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1475709052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :skeleton//A skeleton is an unintelligent undead, similar to the zombie but harder to create, because it's lacking most of the body. The best skeletons are made by groups of people, so-called skeleton crews. < 1475709352 0 :iovoid!?@? NICK :iovoid42 < 1475709417 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1475709636 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fungellot. are you an eukaryota? < 1475709636 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the zealots tend to set up a repository on a server somewhere and transport a blank laptop across the border < 1475709665 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: so you're a devout smuggled laptop entity? < 1475709665 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: too many already, and i declare strings as char for compatibility ( with chez' module system) < 1475709684 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ok, a hermit devout smuggled laptop entity. < 1475709684 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: turing-completeness verification shouldn't take implementation-dependent issues into account. there, my computer is slow when parsing its own output) < 1475709701 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: a turing-complete hermit devout smuggled laptop entity. < 1475709702 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's a blight on ( the web site doesn't reflect that. < 1475709717 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: a diseased turing-complete hermit devout smuggled laptop entity. < 1475709770 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi fizzie < 1475709779 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i wanted to make my own fungot how hard would it be < 1475709779 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: i installed perl on my windows, i think it's svn just because it has to < 1475709858 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fungot to fungot conversation ^^ < 1475709858 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's impossible in both srfi-xx and r6rs. but portable libraries imply a portable standard macro system. < 1475709919 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: of course it's possible. < 1475709919 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you familiar with the five partitions, sda1 through 5.) any animal which is unusually small, as < 1475709937 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: certainly not a squirrel. those are huge. < 1475709938 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and takes the train departed in the middle of the list. < 1475709955 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: haven't seen any take the train here. < 1475709955 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, i'm proposing a hypothetical system where it would in fnord help file... so rw too well-maintained ( and not recently, either) < 1475710302 0 :iovoid42!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid QUIT :Quit: Iovoid has quit! < 1475710608 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475710921 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder.. is there a language (aside from APL et. al.) who's operations are accessable by a single keystroke? certainly programming golf languages exist for this purpose. < 1475711003 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that springs to mind is a hex keypad I used on a heathkit board. you could key-in opcodes and then run them. < 1475711327 0 :iovoid!iovoid@1.ipv4.aegir.superbnc.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475711350 0 :iovoid!?@? NICK :Guest73858 < 1475711408 0 :Guest73858!iovoid@1.ipv4.aegir.superbnc.com QUIT :Changing host < 1475711408 0 :Guest73858!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1475711412 0 :Guest73858!?@? NICK :iovoid < 1475711533 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1475711637 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'nonetheless', 'sometheless', 'nalltheless' 'alltheless' < 1475711728 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: imodello. ZX Spectrum BASIC cheated that way. < 1475711738 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. almostheless. < 1475711756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No, there's no logical quantifier for almost < 1475711773 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quitheless. < 1475711782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(We need a symbol meaning "small infinity"- it'd be what you use to specify "as high as you can go, which is arbitrarily large or small") < 1475711864 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how so? < 1475711967 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.old-computers.com/museum/photos/sinclair_zx-spectrum_keyboard-detail_hr.jpg < 1475711979 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :each key could key a statement, and operator, random stuff... < 1475711983 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha. < 1475711988 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So, like, using General Quantifiers (reversed G), 'exists' is G_{n}^{n ≥ 1}, and 'all' is G_{n}^{n = }) < 1475711994 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheeky. < 1475712105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(General Quantifiers are meant to generalize existential quantification, universal quantification, and uniqueness quantification by allowing you to specify how many may exist (for uniqueness, exactly 1, for existential, 1 or more, and for universal, as many as there are)) < 1475712162 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sort of like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting_quantification) < 1475712452 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: have you looked at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surreal_number hth < 1475712470 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well yeah < 1475712480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm actively reading Knuth's book on the subject < 1475712493 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And working through the math along with it) < 1475712494 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1475712732 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid QUIT :Quit: Iovoid has quit! < 1475712902 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? imode < 1475712903 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475712918 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: have you been asked the The Question yet? < 1475713042 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the question? < 1475713061 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess not. :P < 1475713286 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just the question, the The Question! < 1475713292 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask me The Question! < 1475713302 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are your approximative geographic coördinates and body weigh? < 1475713347 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :47.7511° N, 120.7401° W < 1475713353 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :~180. < 1475713479 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! < 1475713509 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that The Question? :P < 1475713566 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the The Question. < 1475713577 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay. < 1475713639 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1475713639 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KSEA < 1475713639 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSEA 052253Z 31006KT 10SM FEW035 SCT075 BKN250 18/08 A2993 RMK AO2 SLP141 T01830083 < 1475713669 0 :iovoid!iovoid@1.ipv4.aegir.superbnc.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475713693 0 :iovoid!?@? NICK :Guest11425 < 1475713749 0 :Guest11425!iovoid@1.ipv4.aegir.superbnc.com QUIT :Changing host < 1475713749 0 :Guest11425!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1475713753 0 :Guest11425!?@? NICK :iovoid < 1475713905 0 :moony42!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1475713982 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1475713993 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan < 1475713997 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1475714241 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you lobbed spaceheaters? < 1475714361 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they missed. i have a couple radiators, anyway. < 1475714382 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the inside is acceptable. < 1475714400 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475714427 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07VoidLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49871&oldid=49857 5* 03Iovoid 5* (+133) 10 < 1475714565 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg science < 1475714567 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-09-25 revert 942e964c81c1 \ 2016-09-25 ` chmod 777 / -R \ 2014-03-16 revert \ 2014-03-16 revert 1 \ 2013-12-06 echo \'Semi-automatic text generation.\' > wisdom/science < 1475714577 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1475714746 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jeffl35 the entry for me is 'moon' < 1475714747 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35 the entry for me is 'moon'? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475714754 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1475714768 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1475714769 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; < 1475714774 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks shiftily at oerjan. “what the fungot is going on...” < 1475714805 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jeffl35 < 1475714806 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35 ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475714809 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jeffl35 < 1475714810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeffl35? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475714814 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is. < 1475714831 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/? < 1475714832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/%3F < 1475714840 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475714898 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i see, it doesn't apply the munging (including space stripping) to the error reporting. < 1475714920 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07VoidLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49872&oldid=49871 5* 03Iovoid 5* (+0) 10Typo in operator < 1475714982 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475715188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? e < 1475715188 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e is a freenode admin. E is not known to be an Agora player. < 1475715198 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd e//s/E/e/ < 1475715200 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/e//e is a freenode admin. e is not known to be an Agora player. < 1475715244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the same reason as `? peer < 1475715279 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdomrules < 1475715280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdomrules? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475715285 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom rules < 1475715286 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rules of wisdom//All words mentioned in a wisdom entry MUST have a wisdom entry. fact: this entry is breaking the rules < 1475715415 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1475715918 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475716022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '.././/hi' | sed 's,((..?)?/)*,,' < 1475716023 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.././/hi < 1475716032 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '.././/hi' | sed 's,((..\?)\?/)*,,' < 1475716033 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.././/hi < 1475716067 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '.././/hi' | sed 's,\(\(..?\)?/\)*,,' < 1475716067 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.././/hi < 1475716076 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '.././/hi' | sed 's,\(\(..\?\)\?/\)*,,' < 1475716077 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1475716080 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1475716110 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/?//2s!"[)],;s,\(\(..\?\)\?/\)*,,! < 1475716111 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 30: unterminated `s' command < 1475716138 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/?//2s!"[)]!;s,\(\(..\?\)\?/\)*,,")! < 1475716139 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/?//#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//;s,((..?)?/)*,,") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$ < 1475716161 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1475716165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1475716167 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1475716208 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/?//2s!"[)]!;s,\\(\\(..\\?\\)\\?/\\)*,,")! < 1475716210 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/?//#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//;s,\(\(..\?\)\?/\)*,,") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then < 1475716231 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /bin/sh < 1475716232 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/sh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475716263 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? .. < 1475716264 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: ..: Is a directory < 1475716267 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1475716270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1475716274 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1475716295 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well that's fairly harmless anyway. < 1475716309 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ../../../bin/sh < 1475716310 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​../../../bin/sh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475716313 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ../..//bin/sh < 1475716314 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​../..//bin/sh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475716317 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ../../bin/sh < 1475716318 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​../../bin/sh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1475716353 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file wisdom/../../bin/sh < 1475716353 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/../../bin/sh: symbolic link to `dash' < 1475716362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to work < 1475716437 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? test < 1475716438 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available. < 1475716475 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: AAAAAAAAAAAAAH! forgot to copy the line! < 1475716491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ? < 1475716495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it lost forever? < 1475716505 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wat is going on? < 1475716515 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Oh, the line you wanted to horrify coworkers with? < 1475716523 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew I was forgetting something... < 1475716538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, no I didn't, but I'm always forgetting something so if you ask I say "probably") < 1475716609 0 :^v!~v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1475716617 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's far from being lost forever. it's now deeply entrenched in one of our git repos. < 1475716642 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: teeeellll meeeee < 1475716644 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I *may* have managed to make somebody else do code review and merge a patchset that has a "poulet" in it once...) < 1475716647 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What is boily paid for exactly?) < 1475716653 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Give it to oerjan instead. <-- but i already have one. < 1475716678 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm a software developer for a digital dentistry company. < 1475716690 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly remembers something he forgot. thanks hppavilion[1] < 1475716694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...digital dentistry? OK < 1475716696 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1475716739 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3D scanners, CAD/CAM software for prosthesis design, milling and printing machines, stuff like that. < 1475716825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you also program boring machines, like Vorpal does? < 1475716835 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1475716861 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I'm on the "Cloud Team". we manage servers for data interchange between dentists, labs, production centers, manufacturers... < 1475716900 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Vorpal Vellorpal. what kind of boring machine do you drill with? < 1475716900 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1475716917 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1475716947 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's the future of dentistry! it's shiny! teeth are fun! < 1475716949 0 :nulquen!~ae@unaffiliated/nulquen JOIN :#esoteric < 1475717002 0 :^v!pixel@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475717018 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome nulquen < 1475717019 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07nulquen: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09EFnet 02or 06DALnet.) < 1475717028 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1475717029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Only sane man" boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Groan Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist. < 1475717054 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd boily//s/.$/ who helps keep the world boring./ < 1475717056 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/boily//"Only sane man" boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Groan Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist who helps keep the world boring. < 1475717169 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh :P :D < 1475717428 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1475717429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious 4weevil bulgarian quack octoberlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture computation. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl and passion fruit. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1475717452 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woohoo! j'ai dépassé oerjan! < 1475717469 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(uhm. what's «dépasser» in English? drawing a blank here...) < 1475717483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :passed? < 1475717496 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :overtook! < 1475717519 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :en:"to pass" fr:passer < 1475717554 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no:passere < 1475717572 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably borrowed from french, or possibly latin. < 1475717649 0 :^v!pixel@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1475717673 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no:ta igjen < 1475717683 0 :^v!pixel@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1475717983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grapheme-Time Synesthesia: Different symbols have different durations < 1475718089 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do numbers for you have an inherent beauty? like 242 looks nice, but 9147 is ugly? < 1475718540 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07VoidLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49873&oldid=49872 5* 03Iovoid 5* (+109) 10Add link to implementation. < 1475718543 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1475718988 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 242 is beautiful, but 9147 isn't all that ugly < 1475719150 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it's possible for me to install PowerShell on HackEgo. < 1475719203 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /etc/lsb-release < 1475719204 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /etc/lsb-release: No such file or directory < 1475719226 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, HackEgo doesn't seem to be running Ubuntu. < 1475719226 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` lsb_release -a < 1475719228 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No LSB modules are available. \ Distributor ID: Debian \ Description: Debian GNU/Linux \ Release: n/a \ Codename: n/a < 1475719230 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 9147 looks and sounds wrong to me. < 1475719266 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1475719269 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the URL for a .deb file: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/releases/download/v6.0.0-alpha.10/powershell_6.0.0-alpha.10-1ubuntu1.16.04.1_amd64.deb < 1475719286 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem is, this thing has dependencies. < 1475719321 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /etc/issue < 1475719322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /etc/issue: No such file or directory < 1475719334 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /etc/debian_version < 1475719335 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /etc/debian_version: No such file or directory < 1475719348 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this thing even have apt-get on it? < 1475719351 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`apt-get < 1475719352 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apt 0.9.7.9 for amd64 compiled on Nov 16 2013 12:41:41 \ Usage: apt-get [options] command \ apt-get [options] install|remove pkg1 [pkg2 ...] \ apt-get [options] source pkg1 [pkg2 ...] \ \ apt-get is a simple command line interface for downloading and \ installing packages. The most frequently used commands are update \ and install. \ < 1475719357 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure does. < 1475719359 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /etc/motd < 1475719359 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /etc/motd: No such file or directory < 1475719374 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... it won't hurt to try? < 1475719379 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wget https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/releases/download/v6.0.0-alpha.10/powershell_6.0.0-alpha.10-1ubuntu1.16.04.1_amd64.deb < 1475719380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--2016-10-06 01:02:39-- https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/releases/download/v6.0.0-alpha.10/powershell_6.0.0-alpha.10-1ubuntu1.16.04.1_amd64.deb \ Resolving github.com (github.com)... failed: Name or service not known. \ wget: unable to resolve host address `github.com' < 1475719386 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: you want `fetch < 1475719391 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/releases/download/v6.0.0-alpha.10/powershell_6.0.0-alpha.10-1ubuntu1.16.04.1_amd64.deb < 1475719408 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, `fetch is normally faster than this < 1475719410 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's broken < 1475719410 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` apt-get moo < 1475719422 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-10-06 01:03:16 URL:https://github-cloud.s3.amazonaws.com/releases/49609581/1434e3dc-7b5c-11e6-8375-31fdcb64a7cd.deb?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAISTNZFOVBIJMK3TQ%2F20161006%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20161006T010325Z&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Signature=93d65c75024dc5add971ad455e8e17bc09c73015e5c36a8c949f5 < 1475719422 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :W: Unable to read /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ - DirectoryExists (2: No such file or directory) \ (__) \ (oo) \ /------\/ \ / | || \ * /\---/\ \ ~~ ~~ \ ...."Have you mooed today?"... < 1475719439 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's a 39-megabyte file. < 1475719445 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1475719451 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file powershell_6.0.0-alpha.10-1ubuntu1.16.04.1_amd64.deb < 1475719451 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :powershell_6.0.0-alpha.10-1ubuntu1.16.04.1_amd64.deb: Debian binary package (format 2.0) < 1475719465 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're in good shape so far. < 1475719477 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run dpkg -i powershell_6.0.0-alpha.10-1ubuntu1.16.04.1_amd64.deb < 1475719478 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dpkg: error: requested operation requires superuser privilege < 1475719497 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wish me luck in entering the password correctly? < 1475719501 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sudo dpkg -i powershell_6.0.0-alpha.10-1ubuntu1.16.04.1_amd64.deb < 1475719502 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: sudo: command not found < 1475719522 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: SUDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! < 1475719574 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: the sandbox doesn't even have writeable mounts outside /hackenv/ and /tmp/ < 1475719577 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik < 1475719582 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir powershell < 1475719583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1475719586 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be able to install it inside /hackenv/ though < 1475719600 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sudo dpkg -i powershell_6.0.0-alpha.10-1ubuntu1.16.04.1_amd64.deb --instdir=powershell < 1475719601 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: sudo: command not found < 1475719607 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run dpkg -i powershell_6.0.0-alpha.10-1ubuntu1.16.04.1_amd64.deb --instdir=powershell < 1475719607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dpkg: error: requested operation requires superuser privilege < 1475719616 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run dpkg -i powershell_6.0.0-alpha.10-1ubuntu1.16.04.1_amd64.deb --root=powershell < 1475719617 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dpkg: error: requested operation requires superuser privilege < 1475719626 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run su -c 'echo test' < 1475719627 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :su: Cannot determine your user name. < 1475719633 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run su root -c 'echo test' < 1475719634 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :su: Cannot determine your user name. < 1475719636 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a new one < 1475719637 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`id < 1475719638 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uid=5000 gid=308128 < 1475719644 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite the gid too < 1475719646 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dpkg --do-this-in-a-way-which-does-not-require-superuser-privilege < 1475719654 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is very giddy. < 1475719680 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to try dpkg-deb -x < 1475719690 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dpkg-deb -x --help < 1475719691 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run dpkg -i powershell_6.0.0-alpha.10-1ubuntu1.16.04.1_amd64.deb --root=powershell --force-not-root < 1475719691 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: dpkg-deb [