< 1478391264 0 :carado!~carado@78.250.150.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478391415 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tdlnojqsbhlsmmer QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478391642 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-fcqkubjbmnpflkvn JOIN :#esoteric < 1478391716 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :32kb file with 900 lines of markdown < 1478391734 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long do you expect the rendering process to be? < 1478391775 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1478391829 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying several markdown things for terminals < 1478391835 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and none of them takes less than 2s < 1478392270 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1478392599 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: I can't see it taking enough time for a human to notice < 1478392607 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a properly optimized implementation < 1478392627 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i'm starting to write < 1478392941 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BurgerFlipper14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50159&oldid=50158 5* 03Zemeckis 5* (+11) 10 < 1478394347 0 :godel!~gonzalo@96-251-231-201.fibertel.com.ar QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1478396087 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I want to calculate quantiles of data that is arranged in an array where the sample data is the index and the value is how many samples have that value, is there any better way to calculate it than to put them into a list and then sort it? < 1478396159 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also have the sum of the data, and the total number of samples, precalculated, in case that helps) < 1478396358 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: aren't they already sorted, essentially? < 1478396434 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I suppose they are, yes. < 1478396456 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should not be too difficult to iterate through it. < 1478396462 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just forgot! < 1478396473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in that case, calculate partial sums of number of samples up to each index, and from then you can use binary search. < 1478396477 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, you are correct; if the total number of samples is known, it is easy. < 1478396489 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you want to calculate many) < 1478396549 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, that is similar to what I thought of right after you mentioned they are already sorted. < 1478396661 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, calculating the partial sums also gives you the total, if you haven't already precalculated it. < 1478396703 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes of course it does < 1478396810 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My thoughts did not involve binary search though; I just thought, calculate partial sums until you come to 1/4 of the total number of samples and then that is the first quartile, and so on. < 1478396864 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes; binary search is only good if you want to be able to look up quantiles easily later. < 1478397354 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know why I did not think of it until you mentioned that they are already sorted and then I realized?) < 1478397557 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I saw some picture someone made of how they might arrange the buttons and so on on a TI-92 calculator if they were designing for games; but I also thought if you design for games you might also add a colour display and audio, and that these features will be useful even for stuff other than games, too, such as if you are plotting multiple functions on the same screen it can help to be different colours, and you might want it to beep when a long < 1478399000 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478399612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the OKest font? < 1478399616 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1478399616 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett said 7h 54m 41s ago: That would have been helpful, if it weren't for the fact that I actually knew that already. < 1478399623 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mezzacotta is topical today. < 1478399645 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also, remember remember. < 1478399653 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, probably not for you anymore...) < 1478399667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"anymore"? < 1478399694 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1478399704 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well, i _am_ the rememberlord hth < 1478399739 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, yes < 1478399745 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "anymore" is a word, isn't it? < 1478399762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just not connecting the bits hth < 1478399777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never been clear on whether "anymore" or "any more" is considered correct; I guess they're in the process of merging and I'm on the merged end? < 1478399807 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym mergedend hth < 1478399839 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, that'sn't merging yet < 1478399870 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hurryup < 1478399907 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hm, "that'sn't" and other "-'sn't"s are actually a fairly nice group (or maybe semiring? I haven't proved it yet) of contractions... I thing I'll start using them...) < 1478399934 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion[1] < 1478399942 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also nice are the 'd-a and 'm-a contractions, like "I'd-a" "I'm-a") < 1478399949 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: WHYYYYYYYYYY < 1478399953 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] se describe en las notas al pie. ¿Porqué no los dos? Nadie lo sabe. No es tan cluecless. < 1478399959 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1478399960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your revertable itymologist 9gneiss rememberlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1478399963 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Could you formally invent those contractions? < 1478399980 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? abyss < 1478399981 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1478399985 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tswett < 1478399991 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What are you reverting? < 1478400003 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1478400005 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Soviet Russia, the abyss gazes into you first. Other than that, it's pretty much the same. < 1478400006 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett is livin' it up with the penguins. He's a title under the cruxite in the lathe. < 1478400007 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is HackEgo slow again < 1478400014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append hppavilion[1] Él aspira a ser más incomprensible que esta sabiduría. < 1478400017 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'hppavilion[1]': hppavilion[1] se describe en las notas al pie. ¿Porqué no los dos? Nadie lo sabe. No es tan cluecless. Él aspira a ser más incomprensible que esta sabiduría. < 1478400036 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn abyss/`? you < 1478400038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'abyss': `? you < 1478400041 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? abyss < 1478400041 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? you < 1478400044 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1478400045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1478400051 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? warrigal < 1478400051 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i can't use `now to show what i reverted < 1478400052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric's resident dingo. Sometimes pretends to be a human. < 1478400055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much funnier, imo < 1478400058 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it'll forever remain a mystery tdnh < 1478400061 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`before < 1478400064 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/abyss//In Soviet Russia, the abyss gazes into you first. Other than that, it's pretty much the same. < 1478400070 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1478400070 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`now wisdom/oerjan < 1478400075 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your revertebrate itymologist 9gneiss rememberlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1478400076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1478400084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? abyss < 1478400085 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Soviet Russia, the abyss gazes into you first. Other than that, it's pretty much the same. < 1478400094 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`before wisdom/oerjan < 1478400094 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Bah! Mine was much funnier. < 1478400098 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your revertable itymologist 9gneiss rememberlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1478400168 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :,( < 1478400194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: please don't invent hppavilion[1]isms twh < 1478400403 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd warrigal//s/^/warrigal is / < 1478400405 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Taneb < 1478400406 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :warrigal//warrigal is #esoteric's resident dingo. Sometimes pretends to be a human. < 1478400409 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1478400415 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why is warrigal lowercased < 1478400429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because it's a nick hth < 1478400439 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, a nick which is usually capitalized. < 1478400447 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no it was not. besides we have heaps of those sorts of entries already. < 1478400467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well it's not here very often. feel free to fix. < 1478400507 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jan. 12th, 2017. After an intense firefight over the golden gate bridge, President Trump's motorcade was overtaken by cavalry of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, assisted by Mexican drugloard artillery < 1478400509 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd taneb//s#(.*#He sometimes invents without noticing it (see: tanebventions).# < 1478400511 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb//Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. He sometimes invents without noticing it (see: tanebventions). < 1478400542 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd warrigal//s/w/W/ < 1478400546 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :warrigal//Warrigal is #esoteric's resident dingo. Sometimes pretends to be a human. < 1478400562 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :AlWays capitalize the letter W; thanks. < 1478400581 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick tsWett < 1478400745 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? soviet russia < 1478400746 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soviet Russia used to be a synonym for the Soviet Union. In reality, the Soviet Union dissolved. Meanwhile, Soviet Russia dissolved reality, and you are a figment of its imagination. < 1478400779 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, this used to be one of them, until i got confused by it. < 1478400807 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of whom? < 1478400838 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: those entries that are making fun of `? itself < 1478400846 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1478400847 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478400871 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1478401024 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? special relativity < 1478401025 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :special relativity? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478401028 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tensor < 1478401029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tensor? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478401034 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1478401035 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, string diagrams, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, the long line, locales, and histograms. < 1478401043 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1478401045 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, special relativity, metar, weetoflakes, sand, dragons, persistence, the BBC, _46bit, progress, sanity, the Oxford comma, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: maths. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1478401049 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is special relativity mathematical? < 1478401054 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about the universe? < 1478401061 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not entirely. < 1478401073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the universe < 1478401074 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The universe was invented by Taneb as an opposing force to oerjan. Escardó proved that it was indiscreet. < 1478401093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? universe < 1478401094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A universe is a poem in one stanza. < 1478401108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, which one of those shall I augment? < 1478401126 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you do that < 1478401136 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to mention that it's characterized by a universal property. < 1478401155 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? a universe < 1478401156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that fits in either. < 1478401156 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a universe? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478401175 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, indiscreteness is a universal property, I guess? < 1478401187 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indiscrete things are typically right adjoint to a forgetful functor? < 1478401195 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know. < 1478401220 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that one is harmed least, anyway, the other one sort of needs to be brief. < 1478401237 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, "harmed least" < 1478401243 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for your vote of confidence tdh < 1478401245 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...OK, what's Taneb's 0.08008382305190409th gender? (though, knowing #esoteric, either it's m or f or the other two are both neither m nor f...) < 1478401258 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHA* < 1478401292 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has annoyed me ever since I noticed that "er" is for more and "est" is for most, but there's nothing for "less" and "least" < 1478401307 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn versal < 1478401309 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "versal". < 1478401328 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"adjective: of or relating to a style of ornate capital letter used to start a verse, paragraph, etc., in a manuscript, typically built up by inking between pen strokes and with long, rather flat serifs." < 1478401333 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: last you brought it up someone gave a reference that it's a universal that _no_ language has inflections for those hth < 1478401347 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Then all languages are bad. hth. < 1478401358 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thausible. < 1478401370 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newspeak has words like ungooder and ungoodest < 1478401380 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, but those aren't as good < 1478401380 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty regular in that respect < 1478401391 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are better < 1478401408 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :four endings good, two endings better hth < 1478401448 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is forgetting to eat < 1478401458 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I like maybe -oss [o:s] and -ost [o:st]; "meanoss"; "biggoss, longoss, and cut") < 1478401467 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1478401489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: They're goodoss than this system. < 1478401508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But then "most" sounds like it means "least") < 1478401515 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+... < 1478401607 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: maybe m can mean little hth < 1478401614 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oooh, < 1478401635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "meanem", "biggem, longem, and cut"? < 1478401649 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i meant to make m-ost fit < 1478401658 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilem mashem stickem < 1478401666 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1478401761 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( buy this book by celebrated cook Ina Stew ) < 1478401866 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1478401867 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your revertebrate itymologist 9gneiss rememberlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1478401875 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, it should be chef, obviously < 1478401892 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is that true? Are you Glaswegian? < 1478401904 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm definitely wegian < 1478401927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s/remember/potato/ < 1478401930 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan//Your revertebrate itymologist 9gneiss potatolord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1478401935 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you part of the glasgow wegime < 1478401966 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pitte Reich... < 1478401995 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1478402000 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CAN NEITHER CONFIRM NOR AFFIRM THAT < 1478402005 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: pitte? < 1478402009 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s43424 < 1478402010 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan//Your revertebrate itymologist 9gneiss potatolord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1478402015 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1478402016 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: As opposed to Dritte < 1478402028 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Dritte is third (I think), so Pitte is...? < 1478402029 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: still makes no sense afaict < 1478402040 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely nothing? < 1478402041 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hint: The 'i' is [a:i] < 1478402060 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//1s19121 < 1478402063 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan//Your revertebrate itymologist 2gneiss potatolord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1478402089 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1478402095 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s44&4 < 1478402097 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :π. It's pi, oerjan. The pith reich. < 1478402097 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan//Your revertebrate itymologist 2gneiss potatolord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1478402101 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1478402135 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION beats up hppavilion[1] for suggesting pi is an ordinal. in a 'wegian way. < 1478402157 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's frequently used as an ordinal, so... < 1478402211 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it now. < 1478402213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And anyway, an sequence is basically a function from |N to , so generalization to |R is possible in many cases- for example, factorial to gamma < 1478402239 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know that a convering sequence is a function from the one-point compactification of N? < 1478402247 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A continuous function, I mean. < 1478402255 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, N with an extra point at infinity. < 1478402268 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With the appropriate topological structure.) < 1478402268 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes? < 1478402287 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty good, huh? < 1478402293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: itym converging? < 1478402304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, converging. < 1478402319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i it's compact, which means that every open converge has a finite subconverge < 1478402345 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1478402364 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reich(3) = NAZIS < 1478402384 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is still forgetting to eat < 1478402393 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the feeling that compactness is very important but I don't have sufficient intuition for it. < 1478402403 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also fun: pinary < 1478402443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0p10 ≈ 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706798214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812848111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196442881097566593344612847564823378678316527120190914564856692346034861045432664821339360726024914127372458700660631558817488152092096282925409171536436789259036001133053054882046652138414695194151160943305727036575959195309218 < 1478402468 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're spamming the channel too much < 1478402469 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is your pinal warning < 1478402470 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1478402488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How many warnings do I get? (or is pinal second-to-last?) < 1478402519 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is pinal tap < 1478402528 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, if "final" is last, assuming "fi" is one, then given "first, second, third"... well, second-to-last would be something different given that it has a different suffix < 1478402541 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "secnal" and "thirnal" sound nice < 1478402543 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"final" is only last in finite cases. < 1478402545 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but i don't want to let him have 11 warnings < 1478402548 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe 0πDD...D would be a better notation) < 1478402551 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In an infinite sequence the last element would be infinal. < 1478402560 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Ah, yes < 1478402580 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Though, it's possible to have an infinite set (but not sequence) with a last element... < 1478402608 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sets don't have last elements. < 1478402612 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: second-to-last would obviously be senile hth < 1478402632 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a convergent sequence certainly has a last element, which is what it converges to. < 1478402635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: poset/woset? < 1478402637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(∞) < 1478402647 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but which infinity tdnh < 1478402648 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :podude/wodude < 1478402660 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already specified that it's the one-point compactification of N. < 1478402665 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's only one. < 1478402668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, I know < 1478402672 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a pod-ude? < 1478402690 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To calculate the quantiles I used a JavaScript code like: var rt=0; const qu=[]; var c; for(c=0;c=qu.length*count/quantiles) qu.push(c); } < 1478402708 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: In modern JavaScript, you can use "let" instead of "var", which has better scoping behavior. < 1478402723 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't read past the first token in your code. < 1478402727 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I am aware of that, and do use let in those cases. < 1478402777 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At first I had "if" instead of "while", which sometimes resulted in a too short result, so I changed it to "while" and now it seems to be working OK.) < 1478402828 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if twan van laarhoven invented an algorithm for computing quantiles, it would be called twantiles < 1478402831 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the case I used var here though it doesn't matter, because it is top-level code. < 1478402941 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, this isn't my actual code, although it shows the algorithm in use.) < 1478403053 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1478403064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fneingott! < 1478403219 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this algorithm looks OK to you? < 1478403435 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg zzo38 < 1478403436 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :771:2012-10-06 revert \ 770:2012-10-06 run rm -rf wisdom \ 196:2012-04-08 revert 0 \ 194:2012-04-08 run rm -rf wisdom/* \ 0:2012-02-16 Initial import. < 1478403449 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hlnp < 1478403449 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :revset='tip:0 & ! (9071 | 9070 | 5897 | 5895 | 9075 | 9074 | 4530 | 4531)' \ hg log -r "$revset" "$@" | sed 's/\(<[^>]*\)\([^>]>\)/\1̈\2/' < 1478403480 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/hlnp//1s#..$# | 770 | 771&# < 1478403482 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/hlnp//revset='tip:0 & ! (9071 | 9070 | 5897 | 5895 | 9075 | 9074 | 4530 | 4531 | 770 | 771)' \ hg log -r "$revset" "$@" | sed 's/\(<[^>]*\)\([^>]>\)/\1̈\2/' < 1478403496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/hlnp//1s#..$# | 196 | 194&# < 1478403498 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/hlnp//revset='tip:0 & ! (9071 | 9070 | 5897 | 5895 | 9075 | 9074 | 4530 | 4531 | 770 | 771 | 196 | 194)' \ hg log -r "$revset" "$@" | sed 's/\(<[^>]*\)\([^>]>\)/\1̈\2/' < 1478403501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg zzo38 < 1478403502 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0:2012-02-16 Initial import. < 1478403557 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits zzo38 < 1478403560 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitia < 1478405002 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom of the ancients. < 1478405011 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION now has food < 1478405021 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? food < 1478405022 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :food? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478405086 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1478405089 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't make it work < 1478405109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :make what work < 1478405126 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wisdom entry I was going to make for food. < 1478405132 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad. < 1478405144 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :happens. < 1478406327 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( I want to give people almond-scented drinks and see how many of them try to shoot me ) < 1478406834 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when life serves you almonds, make almonade. < 1478406899 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: When life gives you capture by the Soviets, eat some almonds? < 1478406999 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv57SfUVYAEp5cu.jpg < 1478407478 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I love almonds! < 1478407840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Cyanide tastes like almonds hth < 1478407859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :R.I.P. \oren\ < 1478408640 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you poison almonds with cyanide? < 1478408652 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Definitely. < 1478408717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, wait, is Jehovah (a) [jɛ.hoʊ.vʌ] or (b) [dʒɛ.hoʊ.vʌ]? I always heard (b), but I've always assumed it was people being stupid about (a), but now Wikipedia says (b) but also mentions (a) without giving context < 1478408743 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have heard both < 1478408777 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as well as a third variant) < 1478408784 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh? < 1478408797 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yahweh is different form Jehovah if that's what you're going for < 1478408835 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I really can't see YHWH meaning (b); (a) just (read [jʌst] if punning) seems so much more likely < 1478408916 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it is different < 1478409008 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What's the third one you've heard?? < 1478409017 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION must knoooooow < 1478409043 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is like (a) but with a "w" sound < 1478409062 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: [jɛ.woʊ.vʌ]? < 1478409077 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean in place of "v" < 1478409088 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1478409105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[jɛ.hoʊ.wʌ]... that seems more correct < 1478409117 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I can't send non-ASCII with this IRC client, although it can receive any ASCII-compatible character encoding just fine) < 1478409133 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as long as the terminal emulator supports it) < 1478409722 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: consider that the same pronunciation change has happened for all of "John", "James/Jacob", "Joshua", "Jesus", "Jude/Judas", "Jason" etc. ... < 1478409786 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(all except the last from hebrew and probably from a prefix version of YHWH) < 1478409869 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found out that "Sean" comes from "John". < 1478409875 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1478409889 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which of course has its own rich etymological history. < 1478409936 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "Sean" is pronounced "Seen" in my book. Parents are free to name their kid "Sean" and insist it's pronounced wrong, but it's no different from any of the other name misspelings < 1478409955 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your book is wrong. < 1478409970 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The correct way to pronounce someone's name is however they want it to be pronounced. < 1478409999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all of which would be pronounced with /j/ in norwegian, except James doesn't really exist. < 1478410067 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Sean is irish spelling. they do _strange_ things with the vowels hth < 1478410084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The irish is wrong < 1478410108 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, but the problem is the PARENT insists that it's spelled in a way incompatible with spelling < 1478410133 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no such thing as "incompatible with spelling" in English. < 1478410154 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If people are young enough that they haven't been able to make their own choice about their names, I have no opinion. < 1478410303 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: irish gaelic, to be specific. < 1478410322 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Gaaaaaaæeeeee < 1478410335 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I had trouble deciding how to drag an æ, so I did that...) < 1478410353 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because you're gææææææææææææææææærn < 1478410365 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(norwegian for craaaaaaaaaaaaaazy) < 1478410400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(colloquial spelling _and_ pronunciation) < 1478410529 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think that the name should be pronouse how they want it to be pronounce. However, then you should write it down in proper way if you can know of. You should also to spell their name in the way they would intend to spell their name, too, if possible. < 1478410580 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( In norwegian they use ø. In swedish they use ö. German also uses ö, so by the law of analogy, German can be properly spelled with ø instead of ö ) < 1478410624 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Don't question it, it's a joke. But given that I have an ø (still not sure whether to write "a" or "an" before "ø") key, I might just write german with ø in place of ö) < 1478410673 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK you can, but it does not mean you should, unless you intend to make the auto search/replace with it. < 1478410791 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Nø, I just wånt tø ånnøy the Germåns. hth. < 1478410799 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1478410817 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like to ignore the English too? < 1478410823 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'd say "itym Ø, ØK", but yøu can't ø, can you < 1478410826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: A little? < 1478410850 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1478411067 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of annoying people, I recommend that you don't try to be annoying. < 1478411118 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...*fine* < 1478411215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New definition: Fixpoint quine: A superset of quines where it is not required that the program itself output its own source code, but that it either outputs its own source code OR outputs a fixpoint quine in the same language < 1478411279 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So every program is a "fixpoint quine". < 1478411347 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How so? < 1478411360 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so; some programs will output stuff that is not a valid code. < 1478411368 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It has to be in the same language < 1478411370 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, exactly < 1478411385 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on what counts as "in the language". < 1478411420 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But every Jot program is a "fixpoint quine". < 1478411422 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The following is not a valid C code: Hello, World! < 1478411427 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You say it's a fixpoint quite in , since all text is a fixpoint quine in some language < 1478411438 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't like the word "fixpoint". < 1478411441 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know whether I should like it < 1478411444 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not. < 1478411463 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also probably don't like it in this context < 1478411465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's a fixpoint in that if you repeatedly run the code, you eventually enter a point where the output it always the same < 1478411476 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not true. < 1478411479 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...that's what a fixpoint is, isn't it? Like the Y fixpoint combinator?) < 1478411489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll continue to say "fixed point". < 1478411509 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: If there's a better word, switch to that < 1478411580 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's just smartassy to make a quine by saying that what language to use is whatever-will-make-it-a-quine, or if the language is very quiney like cat < 1478413136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\n s->var$s++show(n+1)++show s)1"(\\n s->var$s++show(n+1)++show s)" < 1478413138 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (\n s->var$s++show(n+1)++show s)2"(\\n s->var$s++show(n+1)++show s)" < 1478413143 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ^ < 1478413150 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never repeats. < 1478413170 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ergo it's not a fixpoint quine < 1478413174 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by your original definition, a fixpoint quine. < 1478413180 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, what? < 1478413219 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. you meant _smallest_ set. i interpreted it as the _largest_. < 1478413222 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OK, can you repeat back to me what my definition is in your own words? I can't see... < 1478413264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: when defining things recursively like that, you can interpret it as any set that fits. there's a smallest and a largest one. < 1478413277 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, right, I see < 1478413310 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I see the issue. I forgot something < 1478413312 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's sort of data vs. codata. < 1478413321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ...codata? wat? < 1478413388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: example data: finite lists. example codata: lists which may be infinite. < 1478413399 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1478413403 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell "data" is the latter, actually, because of laziness. < 1478413565 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the question about "this sentence is true" hth < 1478413579 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also interpreted it as the largest, which is obviously the best way to interpret it. < 1478413612 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like the most interesting yeah < 1478413641 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can get a lot of strange stuff but you need to make sure it always parses... < 1478413676 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say that a compiler error also counts as output. < 1478413693 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example I would call a program that generates a compiler error equal to its source code a quine. < 1478413707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we call that a "kimian" quine. < 1478413717 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...for some reason. < 1478413736 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fnord < 1478413739 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: Variable not in scope: fnord < 1478413750 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> error: Variable not in scope: error < 1478413752 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:21: error: parse error on input ‘in’ < 1478413766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :1:21: error: parse error on input ‘<' < 1478413769 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<’ < 1478413777 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<' < 1478413779 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<’ < 1478413784 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUCCESS < 1478413799 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, is there more than one? < 1478413845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would need a different format error, at least < 1478413895 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm is that actually a fixpoint in (except for erroring) hppavilion[1]'s sense? < 1478413934 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :1:21: error: parse error on input ‘in’ < 1478413936 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<’ < 1478413946 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it is. < 1478413963 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it seems like > autostrips the initial space. < 1478413975 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (:) < 1478413977 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1478413977 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • No instance for (Typeable a0) < 1478413977 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M764240908133430608317677’ < 1478413986 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1478414001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: you're making this hard :( < 1478414010 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`abc < 1478414012 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: abc: not found < 1478414012 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> error: error < 1478414015 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1478414015 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Couldn't match expected type ‘[[Char] -> a]’ < 1478414015 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type ‘[Char] -> a0’ < 1478414024 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: abc: not found < 1478414025 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits:: No such file or directory < 1478414043 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits:: No such file or directory < 1478414044 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits:: No such file or directory < 1478414051 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1478414056 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^] < 1478414067 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUNGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT < 1478414076 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ hi < 1478414077 0 :ffj-bot!eldis4@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |value error: hi < 1478414081 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1478414087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ |value error: hi < 1478414088 0 :ffj-bot!eldis4@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |spelling error < 1478414088 0 :ffj-bot!eldis4@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: | |value error: hi < 1478414088 0 :ffj-bot!eldis4@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: | ^ < 1478414102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :grmbl so verbose < 1478414106 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :( hi < 1478414106 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-008-069.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable hi < 1478414111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :( No such variable hi < 1478414111 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-008-069.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :builtin:Type mismatch between < 1478414112 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-008-069.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Dec 13prop (Type of 04No 13contra) < 1478414112 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-008-069.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1478414112 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-008-069.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : _ -> _ (Is 04No 13contra applied to too many arguments?) < 1478414112 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-008-069.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1478414130 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) hi < 1478414149 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1478414150 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question: How many can there be? < 1478414153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :] hm < 1478414159 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: many what? < 1478414173 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "there"? < 1478414182 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The answer is "only one" < 1478414206 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has five letters hth < 1478414218 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Question: How many can there be? < 1478414221 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:33: error: < 1478414221 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) < 1478414249 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hi < 1478414249 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hitchcock ... Hitchcock's Bible Names Dictionary (late 1800's) < 1478414259 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hitchcock ... Hitchcock's Bible Names Dictionary (late 1800's) < 1478414260 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, look up one word at a time please. < 1478414262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hi jacob < 1478414264 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "Jacob" hitchcock "Hitchcock's Bible Names Dictionary (late 1800's)" < 1478414264 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jacob, that supplants, undermines; the heel < 1478414264 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1478414268 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@Sorry, look up one word at a time please. < 1478414268 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1478414275 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@Unknown command, try @list < 1478414275 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1478414321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?Unknown command, try @list < 1478414321 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1478414338 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t abc < 1478414339 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: < 1478414339 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Variable not in scope: abc < 1478414339 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Perhaps you meant ‘abs’ (imported from Prelude) < 1478414343 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1478414349 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t error: < 1478414351 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: < 1478414351 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) < 1478414357 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1478414367 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k abc < 1478414368 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: Not in scope: type variable ‘abc’ < 1478414376 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k error: Not in scope: type variable ‘abc’ < 1478414378 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: parse error on input ‘in’ < 1478414384 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k error: parse error on input ‘in’ < 1478414386 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: lexical error at character '\8216' < 1478414392 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k error: lexical error at character '\8216' < 1478414394 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: parse error on input ‘'’ < 1478414402 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k error: parse error on input ‘'’ < 1478414404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :loopy loop < 1478414405 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: lexical error at character '\8216' < 1478414407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1478414420 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in scowpe < 1478414437 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hi < 1478414438 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478414441 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is most crucial bot because who can remember all the prefixes? < 1478414445 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hi? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478414446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi? ¯\(°​_o)/¯? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1478414451 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOPE < 1478414459 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes < 1478414459 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ . < 1478414478 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hi < 1478414486 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, not here, right. < 1478414486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think there are any more that are actually here < 1478414496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar hi < 1478414501 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even j-bo has been replaced < 1478414511 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+t < 1478414515 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar < 1478414521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :success? < 1478414530 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1478414534 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1478414542 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1478414542 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1478414551 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listmodules < 1478414551 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime metar more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search < 1478414551 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :slap source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where < 1478414564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many modules < 1478414575 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle hi < 1478414578 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Approximate.Type hi :: HasApproximate c_aj1A a_afRM => Lens' c_aj1A a_afRM < 1478414578 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :package hi < 1478414578 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agda.Auto.CaseSplit data HI a < 1478414601 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle Data.Approximate.Type hi :: HasApproximate c_aj1A a_afRM => Lens' c_aj1A a_afRM < 1478414601 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1478414609 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle No results found < 1478414610 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1478414621 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl hi < 1478414621 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1478414636 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty pointless < 1478414649 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@elite hmmmm < 1478414649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hMm/\/\/\/\ < 1478414657 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@elite hMm/\/\/\/\ < 1478414657 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmM/\/\/\/\ < 1478414671 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@elite hmM/\/\/\/\ < 1478414672 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :HM/\/\/\/\/\/\ < 1478414680 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@elite HM/\/\/\/\/\/\ < 1478414681 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :HM/\/\/\/\/\/\ < 1478414691 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@elite HM/\/\/\/\/\/\ < 1478414691 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm/\/\/\/\/\/\ < 1478414702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it really count if it's nondeterministic < 1478414714 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayhaps not < 1478414722 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time hi < 1478414738 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud hi < 1478414738 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1478414743 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud You don't have any messages < 1478414743 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1478414799 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are some spectacularly bad type variable names for Approximate there. < 1478414816 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure why that's happening. http://hackage.haskell.org/package/approximate-0.2.2.3/docs/Data-Approximate-Type.html just uses c and a < 1478414833 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would it use the GHC identifier like that? < 1478414860 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is IRP too nondeterministic for this approach < 1478414889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea: "Choose Ye Own Adventure"; a choose-your-own-adventure style game where you control MULTIPLE characters, and try to manipulate events to a desired outcome < 1478414905 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is IRP to nondeterministic for this approach < 1478415546 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1478415546 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 060650Z 09006KT CAVOK M06/M11 Q1021 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 09012KT < 1478415554 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the rain is over for a while. < 1478416884 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:4100:15f2:7d51:bca9:b22:6436 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478417017 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone wrote about ignoring STRONGNAT (a Wikipedia guideline for an article about a country or something with strong ties to that country or is about an author, then that article should use the same language as that country or author if Wikipedia's language is the same language as that language or country) for dates. I do not quite agree because if it is not the pure numeric format then it is not ambiguous. < 1478417051 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I think it makes sense to ignore STRONGNAT if following it would cause ambiguities.) < 1478417057 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think of it? < 1478417219 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also prefer year month day as the order anyways when the date is written numerically; when writing in words, use whatever order you prefer.) < 1478417718 0 :fuxximus!ca0929ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.9.41.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478417872 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1478418360 0 :grumble!~grumble@freenode/staff/grumble QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1478418523 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdYGQ7B0Vew < 1478419045 0 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:FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478421792 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478421826 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478421827 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478422201 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478422202 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478422419 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478422420 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478422460 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478422461 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478422461 0 :scoofy_!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478422477 0 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1478422936 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478422937 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478423112 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell FireFly FireFlood < 1478423112 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1478423213 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478423214 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478423340 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478423341 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478423449 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478423450 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478423475 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7rh1tdsqv40aq.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1478423525 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478423526 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478423554 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478423554 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478423802 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this kind of card with Magic: the Gathering: {T}, Pay 1 life: You gain 1 life. < 1478423839 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like it could be abused for something... < 1478423858 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a bad thing though < 1478423913 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and that is why the cost includes {T} < 1478423935 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(another variant is to put mana instead of {T}) < 1478423973 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, haven't played magic for a while < 1478423983 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478423984 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478424018 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478424019 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478424052 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478424052 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478424087 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478424088 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478424114 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are things that can be done while the ability is on the stack (such as effects that exchange life totals), or you can use triggered abilities with it. < 1478424118 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478424119 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478424148 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478424149 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478424184 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478424185 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478424214 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478424215 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478424280 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478424281 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478424309 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478424310 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478424343 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478424343 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478424403 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what if it was {T}, Gain 1 life: You lose 1 life. < 1478424470 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478424471 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478424531 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478424532 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478424591 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478424592 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478424593 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Actually I did think of that too (but then decided against writing it too) < 1478424657 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478424658 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478424677 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might give you life point to pay life for some other ability to be placed above it on the stack that will let you to win the game, or the ability could be countered, or possibly other purposes as well; the same thing with triggered abilities can also work. < 1478424867 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478424868 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478424927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1478424993 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478424993 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425026 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425027 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425061 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425062 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425117 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425118 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425181 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425181 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425252 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if Transcendence is on the battlefield twnh < 1478425276 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425277 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425341 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425342 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425434 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425434 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425500 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425501 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425561 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425562 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425567 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then its triggered ability causes you to gain 2 life; the timing depend which version you are using. If you can remove Transcendence in time then you might win. Various convoluted puzzles can be made up, too. Or, use Donate with Transcendence. Also if you have Transcendence then you can use my first version even with only 1 life point and don't lose. < 1478425601 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was talking about your first version. < 1478425621 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425622 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425624 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, OK < 1478425655 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425656 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425688 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425689 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425723 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425724 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425782 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425783 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425786 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FixyourconnectionFly < 1478425848 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425849 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425877 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425878 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425910 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425910 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478425956 0 :Tanebot!~Tanebot@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425976 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478425977 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478426097 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478426098 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478426143 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478426143 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478426225 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478426226 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478426320 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478426321 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478426356 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478426357 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478426385 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478426386 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478426451 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478426451 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478426698 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478426699 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478426853 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478426854 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478426887 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478426888 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478426951 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478426952 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478426984 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478426985 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478427020 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478427021 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478427078 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478427078 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478427111 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478427112 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478427177 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478427178 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478427237 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478427238 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478427392 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478427393 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478427428 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478427429 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478427458 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478427459 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478427586 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478427587 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478427645 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478427646 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478427679 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478427679 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478427742 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478427742 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478427797 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is probably sleeping hmm < 1478427825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time fizzie < 1478427826 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for fizzie is Sun Nov 6 10:23:45 2016 < 1478427838 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478427839 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478427866 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478427867 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478427873 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, for irrsi: /ignore FireFly JOINS PARTS QUITS < 1478427887 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? int-e < 1478427895 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e är inte svensk. Hen kommer att spränga solen. Hen står för sig själv. Hen gillar inte färger. < 1478427991 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478427991 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428024 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478428024 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428058 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478428059 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428086 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh the last bit is the colors thing. < 1478428092 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478428093 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428128 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478428129 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428186 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478428186 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428220 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478428220 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428344 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478428345 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428379 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478428380 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428409 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478428410 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428476 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478428477 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428536 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478428536 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e kommet att spränga solen? < 1478428599 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478428600 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428604 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heute die Welt, Morgen das Sonnensystem. < 1478428665 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :idag spränga världen, i morgon spränga solsystemet < 1478428666 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478428667 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428676 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :solen < 1478428680 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :idag spränga världen, i morgon spränga solen < 1478428786 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478428787 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428880 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478428881 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428916 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478428917 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478428950 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is FireFly OK < 1478429030 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1478429048 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :abridged version: @google how to erase lines from IRC backlog int-ello. you can't erase. all lines are permanent. the Internet's Ink is indelible. @google how to turn the Sun into a supernova full context is somewhere in http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/16.03.14 < 1478429091 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So anyway it would be for a good cause. < 1478429360 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dowry < 1478429361 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A dowry is a pribe paid for a brice, or maybe a bribe paid for a pride. < 1478429445 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -r scow wisdom | wc -l < 1478429453 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1478429457 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -r scow wisdom < 1478429458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/sbeef:sbeef is the culinary name for meat from scow < 1478433269 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478433776 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1478434270 0 :carado!~carado@78.250.149.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478434633 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-fcqkubjbmnpflkvn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478434733 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:ed32:e597:7805:d0d0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478434842 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-epbodeailhdvxkel JOIN :#esoteric < 1478435020 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1478435027 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :log//I think you might mean !logs < 1478435058 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1478435139 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-uefnrmbdlucnxxwr QUIT :Quit: https://fnordserver.eu < 1478435539 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1478435907 0 :fuxximus!ca0929ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.9.41.173 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1478436850 0 :izabera!~izabera@host68-57-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1478436853 0 :izabera!~izabera@host68-57-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ sudo blockdev --setrw /dev/mapper/CAC_VG-CAC_LV < 1478436855 0 :izabera!~izabera@host68-57-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ sudo mount -o remount,rw / < 1478436857 0 :izabera!~izabera@host68-57-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :mount: cannot remount /dev/mapper/CAC_VG-CAC_LV read-write, is write-protected < 1478436859 0 :izabera!~izabera@host68-57-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp < 1478436861 0 :izabera!~izabera@host68-57-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :what am i doing wrong < 1478436863 0 :izabera!~izabera@host68-57-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :blockdev succeded < 1478436998 0 :izabera!~izabera@host68-57-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :lvdisplay says it's in read-write mode < 1478437049 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabellora. what happens if you umount first, then mount in two steps? < 1478437169 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/224732 ← read the kernel logs? < 1478437179 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( where are the kernel logs? ) < 1478437203 0 :izabera!~izabera@host68-57-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already did what that answer says < 1478437286 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1478437289 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot? < 1478437294 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fungot. < 1478437964 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1478438268 0 :benderB787!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:587e:1183:a601:27cd JOIN :#esoteric < 1478438274 0 :izabera!~izabera@host68-57-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.6 < 1478438554 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungoooooooooot < 1478438608 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello. ↑ < 1478438873 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dmesg | tail -n 1 < 1478438874 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :random: perl urandom read with 5 bits of entropy available < 1478439337 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION commits sudoku for having forgot about dmesg < 1478439399 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh FireFly stopped flooding < 1478439407 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, sorry :< < 1478439413 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1478439413 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf said 4h 31m 40s ago: FireFlood < 1478439421 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1478439545 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FirelloFly. you flooded? < 1478439617 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :excessively, if the quit message can be trusted < 1478439625 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :messages, really. < 1478439671 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/16.11.06 has recorded the deed < 1478439698 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or not... the flooding seems to be hidden between the lines) < 1478439741 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I was asleep < 1478439814 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. that is professional flooding. < 1478439838 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleeping flood. slood. < 1478439919 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:ed32:e597:7805:d0d0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478439949 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: so is this the technical equivalent of snoring, then? < 1478439966 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha < 1478439988 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly a poorly configured ZNC is to blame < 1478440335 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1478441284 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does the fungot invocation dance. «ooga ooga wobble wobble ♪» < 1478441382 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478441501 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been thinking about how to decode morse, in an program, tapped out by a human. < 1478441518 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to have invoked a moon instead of fungot. < 1478441526 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, lol < 1478441545 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i seriously snipe your invokation attempt? :P < 1478441564 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes down the words to invoke a moon. < 1478441585 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are they? :P < 1478441600 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“ooga ooga wobble wobble” < 1478441606 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1478441632 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may work better if you PM them to me. *adds those words to ping list* < 1478441679 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Client: HexChat 2.12.2 • OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 with Bing (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2840 @ 2.16GHz (2.16GHz) • Memory: 3.9 GiB Total (1008.6 MiB Free) • Storage: 378.4 GiB / 382.7 GiB (4.3 GiB Free) • VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics • Uptime: 13h 42m 39s < 1478441682 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh derp < 1478441685 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit the wrong button < 1478441689 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1478441836 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478441887 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, say it again, it should highlight me :P < 1478441889 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION afks < 1478442035 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooga ooga wobble wobble < 1478442257 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:587e:1183:a601:27cd JOIN :#esoteric < 1478442343 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome super_bender < 1478442344 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08super_bender: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1478442402 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mutters something about 'leaky integrators' and 'two high marks' < 1478442480 0 :benderB787!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:587e:1183:a601:27cd QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478442536 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives some duct tape to unleak Zarutian's integrators < 1478442538 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks he can dispense with the leaky integrators and just use two ints. < 1478442941 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, what < 1478442993 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1478443140 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think I will try to do that thing I talked about that might make fungot to not hang indefinitely, so that I could make it auto-restarting. < 1478443151 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I haven't been writing Befunge in *so long*. < 1478443208 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a Befunge transpiler. < 1478443328 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll need to figure out if I even have access to the 'O' instruction from SOCK at all, or if I've loaded some other fingerprint on top of it. < 1478443408 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should've documented these remappings. < 1478443410 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:587e:1183:a601:27cd QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1478443443 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:587e:1183:a601:27cd JOIN :#esoteric < 1478443486 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm loading SCKE, FILE and REXP after SOCK. < 1478444073 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:587e:1183:a601:27cd QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1478444106 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:587e:1183:a601:27cd JOIN :#esoteric < 1478444133 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL: KEEPALIVE backwards is EVIL-A-PEEK. Sockets are EVIL. < 1478444205 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1478444241 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1478444283 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done the first bit (setting SO_KEEPALIVE on), will see if it works first, before attempting to do the auto-join part. < 1478444378 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nostril. < 1478444378 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily:...) succeeded. ai-ai_canonname: " fnord scsi terminator: use this if you try to < 1478444396 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses a fnord scsi terminator < 1478445771 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION steals boily's mapole(s) < 1478446076 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:587e:1183:a601:27cd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, thanks lol < 1478446092 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478446122 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eille! touche pas à mes mapoles! < 1478446147 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION glares at moony and grabs his precious mapoles back. «toé.» < 1478446193 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes and hide them in a secure safe. < 1478446199 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PEOPLE CHICKEN < 1478446232 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478446984 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478448248 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:587e:1183:a601:27cd QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478449426 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1478449427 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is ⛄ < 1478449439 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⛄ < 1478449439 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW] < 1478449447 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtle. < 1478450177 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1478451411 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1478451669 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1478451704 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:4100:15f2:adae:8ac1:1115:5169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478451815 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I can no longer confirm the "without snow" part < 1478451843 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1478451850 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, where are you? < 1478451878 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Innsbruck. < 1478451926 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went vaguely near there in August! < 1478451937 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(visited Lienz) < 1478451951 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(very vaguely near) < 1478451968 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Austria... ~575m elevation, and today's rain brought some dripping wet snow with it... enough to cover cars in white, not cold enough for it to stay on the ground) < 1478452003 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:4100:15f2:adae:8ac1:1115:5169 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478452064 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was staying in Moos over the border in Italy < 1478452116 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, close enough < 1478452133 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION keeps mixing up Linz and Lienz though < 1478452164 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478452182 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Lienz has a very similar population to Hexham < 1478452200 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was very helpful. not. < 1478452257 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but true. < 1478452313 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a list of european cities ordered by population? hmmm. < 1478452391 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(extending all the way down to maybe 1000 people?) < 1478452396 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means I have a point of comparison for describing my hometown to the friend I was staying with < 1478452399 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 10k, in this case. < 1478452401 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:4100:15f2:f8e4:7f18:6729:651d JOIN :#esoteric < 1478452452 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :half the population of Zerbst, now that would've told me something ;-) < 1478452651 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now I'm trying to find out what the size of the area of Hexham is. < 1478453013 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexham,_New_South_Wales < 1478453288 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478453965 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478454509 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:4100:15f2:f8e4:7f18:6729:651d QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478454544 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-180-181-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478454873 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-180-181-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478455213 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:4100:15f2:5449:176b:5869:9ce4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478455236 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:4100:15f2:5449:176b:5869:9ce4 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478455272 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-180-181-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478455513 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-180-181-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1478455808 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1478455896 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478456675 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1478457210 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478458842 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :mats valk 4.74s < 1478458846 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLksISrKtO8 < 1478458855 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1478458938 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everyone! does anybody remembers this? AFAIR, Don Knuth has an exercise in his book, to contrive sorting algorithm slower than any existing, but still correct and halting at finish. was it? < 1478458944 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1478459053 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478459144 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PinealGlandOptic: http://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/79895/is-bubble-sort-the-slowest-sorting-algorithm#79902 ? < 1478459234 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LKoen: thanks, this seems what I'm looking for < 1478459262 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll thank google for you < 1478459311 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an easy one < 1478459351 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider a check of wether a sequence is sorted or not: a sequence is sorted iff each subsequence is sorted < 1478459364 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will give you a solid O(2^n) to start with < 1478459386 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not make like bubble sort around it and check every iteration < 1478459403 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't matter much in face of 2^n, but still < 1478459481 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1478459554 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just found crippled Bubble sort implemented incorrectly, the case for Daily WTF website. wanted to compare it with Knuth's approach, haha < 1478459699 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478459779 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :find max element, then compute the first 1 digits of pi < 1478459796 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :find max element in the remaining vector, then compute the first 2^2 digits of pi < 1478459798 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :these exercises looks like antichess, try to lose all pieces, but this can be tricky < 1478459798 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :find max element in the remaining vector, then compute the first 3^3^3 digits of pi < 1478459829 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dhi < 1478459913 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://4cdn.hu/kraken/image/upload/s--4EkaxxR4--/6vtVAA1Q6CwFDZFUs.jpeg as a german, i find this funny < 1478459929 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478460023 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION steals boily's mapoles while he/she is not here < 1478460066 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Reductio ad Hitlerum? comparison of Stalin to Hitler is especially popular < 1478460095 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :PinealGlandOptic, you new? < 1478460104 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: your algorithm is cheating since the digits of pi do not matter the slightest in the calculation < 1478460124 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: find an algorithm that is still correct if you omit a subset of lines < 1478460135 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :any subset? < 1478460150 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at best, yeah < 1478460188 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. there should not be a subset of code that still produces the right result on every given input < 1478460198 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which your algorithm has < 1478460226 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: did you just negate the requirements? < 1478460270 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, i actually find that rather funny too, even tho im an American, i dont think either candidate are worthy of presidency :P < 1478460298 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i guess not? < 1478460317 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on izaloves algorithm, you can omit the calculation of pi < 1478460328 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore it is not valid < 1478460350 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i can just put the subset of lines that do not compute pi and get a valid result < 1478460351 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: picking a subset and taking a subset away are the same thing, but first you wanted the results to still be correct, now you want them to be incorrect, something is wrong here, unless there are no possible inputs at all. < 1478460377 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: where did i want them to be incorrect? < 1478460400 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i.e. there should not be a subset of code that still produces the right result on every given input" < 1478460425 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i repeat: where did i want them to be incorrect? < 1478460431 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right there. < 1478460434 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not correct = incorrect < 1478460445 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i said is: each subset of code _must_ produce at least one wrong output < 1478460456 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :each real subset < 1478460471 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"find an algorithm that is still correct if you omit a subset of lines" < 1478460518 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I feel I'm wasting my time on something not very interesting here... sorry that I barged in, will drop the topic. < 1478460542 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one was stupid, yeah < 1478461895 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ObCode14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50160 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+7276) 10Created page with "'''ObCode''' is a stack-based [[esoteric programming language]] created by [[User:Challenger5]]. It could be considered a [[Turing Tarpit]] if it is proven Turing Complete. I..." < 1478461971 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ObCode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50161&oldid=50160 5* 03Challenger5 5* (-1) 10 < 1478462006 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little hostile, don't you think < 1478462040 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ObCode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50162&oldid=50161 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+1) 10 < 1478462121 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50163&oldid=50116 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+13) 10/* O */ < 1478463308 0 :fractal!fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478463489 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-epbodeailhdvxkel QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478463522 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-vzvdtwvukpfntmby JOIN :#esoteric < 1478464807 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-vzvdtwvukpfntmby QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478464842 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-juakjyvupuxkglqu JOIN :#esoteric < 1478464893 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-juakjyvupuxkglqu QUIT :Excess Flood < 1478464962 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bvkgecaznryoifau JOIN :#esoteric < 1478465368 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1478465426 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478465788 0 :fractal!fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1478466004 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1478467001 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478467051 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't a Sequel be called a "Postquel" < 1478467073 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1478467332 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I been wondering for a long time now what Sequel is sequel of? Because I am sure the original is much better. < 1478467482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: You mean what the word for the original is? < 1478467494 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or is there a movie called Sequel or..?) < 1478467537 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A movie that takes place roughly coherently with another is an Equel < 1478467538 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I meant in the sense of SQL -> Sequel and as anyone who has watched some movie series, the orignal are often better than the sequels < 1478467543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Oh xD < 1478467558 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Not sure, but I think tswett is making the reboot < 1478467583 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Equel", ntbcw "Equal") < 1478467587 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1478467602 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to make a database language that is not based on "English prose"? < 1478467614 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Yes, it looks very nice at the moment < 1478467626 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Still in early dev. Let me see if I can find the linky < 1478467646 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: https://laserdb.blogspot.com/ hth < 1478467741 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again SQL seems like it was written by whoever made COBOL < 1478467777 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman PRIVMSG #esoteric :NoSQL please < 1478468015 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I program in SQL, but there are other stuff too < 1478468193 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What do you think a good database query language would be like? < 1478468225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shouldn't even say language. Database query API, and database query UI. < 1478468514 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQL seems good enough for most purposes, although a UI with autocomplete and split-screen and so on could help. API is also good, especially if you can have remote API; SQLite's virtual table API (with some extensions) could be of some help here. Having to prepare a SQL query to deal with a database in a programming language other than SQL doesn't make that much sense, but there are some advantages. < 1478468524 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are tables other than arrays of records so to speak? Then the API should be similiar to how you can do stuff like .filter(), .map() etc < 1478468555 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that does make some sense. < 1478468643 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some kind of JavaScript program or extension could perhaps to be written that can implement it like that. One thing that such thing won't do, but that SQLite's virtual table mechanism can do, is consumed constraints. < 1478468666 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :but such would need analyses of code. If we take the .filter() example. It takes what exactly? An function? < 1478468683 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is consumed constraints? < 1478468738 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is JavaScript then for arrays, .filter() and .map() do take functions. (And, actually, now that I think about it, there is a way to do consumed constraints with it, if you implement them as functions that return functions that are marked in some way.) < 1478468791 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: What I mean is for example, in SQLite, the xBestIndex method of a virtual table implementation can see some parts of the WHERE clause, and can use those to implement its own filtering rather than to have SQLite retrieve all records and then filter some out. < 1478468841 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I agree the filtering should happen where the data lives < 1478468912 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with .filter() in ecmascript there is nothing preventing you from chaining them. < 1478468937 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Yes I know you can chain them. < 1478468989 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :which to me seems like what virtual table implementation seems to be used to achive in your example. < 1478469016 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I meant is something like that instead of writing .filter(x=>x[2]==3) you might write .filter(columnEquals(2,3)) instead; on something other than a database table it would act the same way. < 1478469050 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(On a database table, the former would simply be slower, but would give the same result.) < 1478469120 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other thing than a database table? I take that you can make an intermediary result table (that only lives conceptually) that further filtering can then be done on (or any other processing) < 1478469140 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQLite virtual tables can allow some filtering to occur "where the data lives"; however, you can't do this with LIMIT/OFFSET clauses (which would probably be useful if you are accessing the data over the internet). < 1478469171 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck the database could be a continously streamed event-sourced records in the FlowBasedProgramming style < 1478469173 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: By "other thing than a database table" I mean calling columnEquals(2,3)(x) directly. < 1478469232 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :x being like a row or record here? < 1478469257 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1478469272 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1478469291 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that I dont find that any special and it shouldnt be < 1478469348 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the whole stuff with SQL is that it is not as easy to speficy that columnsEquals(2,3)(x) < 1478469371 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck columnsEqual seems to me like an Curry-nator? < 1478469383 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of how SQL works, you don't need to. < 1478469406 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is one kind of thing making SQL suitable for database queries. < 1478469608 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but what it seems to me, at least from codebases I have seen, SQL is used from sort of text literal (often in some sort of sprintf style query builder) to get the first stage results which is then processed further by stuff native to the programming language the main program is written in. < 1478469638 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and that isn't very good, I agree. < 1478469661 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although, if you are doing that, you should use host parameters when possible rather than a string builder.) < 1478469667 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :a similie would be like asking directory assitance to fax you the "Ab" section of the phonebook < 1478469712 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it is somewhat. < 1478469715 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I am talking about a host parameterizer or what it is called. Much better than just concatinating the query string together. < 1478469759 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I mean is as a stand-alone programming language for database operations, SQL works well. < 1478469766 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but what I mean is that the 'whole' query isnt in the SQL sent < 1478469772 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If used stand-alone, then you won't be using (nor need) host parameters.) < 1478469828 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Yes, although the SQL code does not have to be parsed again if the parameter changes, too. < 1478470275 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :my point is that to a programmer handling data that lives in a database there is no impedience missmatch so to speak < 1478470334 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1478470392 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense < 1478470466 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks, superficially, like you are just dealing with arrays of records but in reality the proxy_objs are actually sending the most spefic query or update back to the database. < 1478470594 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, I recall there was this project at Google (dont recall its name though) that used esprima to parse functions passed to .filter() and co to construct map and reduce tasks. < 1478470600 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is what I thought of too < 1478470767 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I don't know what is esprima and thought to use special functions (such as a function returned by columnEquals) instead. < 1478470903 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Apparently, subvocalization (reading silently to yourself) is characterized by your speechers still wobbling a tiny bit < 1478470912 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I found an information leak usable for mind reading >:) < 1478471652 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1478472877 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7rh1tdsqv40aq.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1478473404 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478473795 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1478474174 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The plural of "wug" is "wux" < 1478474202 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what even is a wug < 1478474386 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: There was an experiment done to see how children acquire the rules of language; "This is a WUG. Now there is another one. There are now two ____" < 1478474416 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay? < 1478474430 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: The expected answer is "WUGS", but english plurae are bizarre and random, so I declare the correct answer to be "WUX" < 1478474456 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does not answer my question < 1478474476 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: It's a nonsense word intentionally having no meaning, but it appears to be presented as a bird usually < 1478474603 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478474608 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i declare the correct plural to be gub, because why the fuck not < 1478474991 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mynamello. what are gub? < 1478475030 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: multiple wug, obviosly < 1478475059 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wug is something hppavilion[1] came up to look for a plural < 1478475060 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: That works too < 1478475073 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: No, it's an actual experiment predating me < 1478475085 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Berko_Gleason#Children.27s_learning_of_English_morphology.E2.80.94.E2.80.8B.E2.80.8Bthe_Wug_Test < 1478475351 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never quite been clear on whether the SMBC guy's last name is Weiner or Weinersmith < 1478475373 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1478475375 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know he has a name < 1478475385 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of people do < 1478475395 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it is likely < 1478475400 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even Zach Weiner(Smith)? < 1478475404 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that does not let me be sure < 1478475527 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Maybe Kelly (his wife)'s maiden name was "Smith" and his... Masculaiden name was "Weiner", so they just concatenated them into "Weinersmith" on marriage? < 1478475573 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellœrjan, Tanelle, hppavellon[1]. < 1478475588 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahøily < 1478475642 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boheily < 1478475687 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :portmarriage < 1478475715 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o and ö are nøw øbsølete. All gløry tø the Ø. < 1478475730 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1478475735 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why so busy < 1478475814 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: your naming assumption is correct < 1478475833 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellœpia! < 1478475849 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was volunteering for an event yesterday, and today was mahjong. < 1478475857 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1478475900 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh rait < 1478475967 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my wallet was agonizing from the shock it received Saturday. I took it around the shed and did what I had to do. < 1478475990 0 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1478476041 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1478476073 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i spent less than $100 saturday < 1478476082 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1478476088 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in USD, it's about... < 1478476133 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 120 * 0.7481 < 1478476136 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 89.77199999999999 < 1478476163 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay. < 1478476166 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so did you < 1478476205 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gave 30 to nanowrimo and bought a clock and an mp3 player for a grand total of (undisclosed) < 1478476283 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you give money to nanowrimo? < 1478476342 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a sandalwood comb, a bottle of beard oil, and two boardgames. < 1478476561 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :beard oil < 1478476564 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 dollars from that was food. < 1478476573 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Helloover. beard oil :D < 1478476592 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for smoothing the beard and make it smell good. < 1478476696 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds