< 1480204876 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. does anyone know of a short vingette about an author fleeing assasins because an corporation wants his works to be in the public domain in 70 years time? < 1480205039 0 :computing!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1480205136 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1480205152 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good syntax highlighting is subtle and compelling. it's the smell of freshly brewed sourj. a Danish butter cookie crumbling in your mouth. < 1480205168 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't, but it sounds fun! copyright assasins. < 1480205198 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :70 years is a lot of time for that to make any sense < 1480205229 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we need that in _exactly_ 70 years. we cannot afford to wait 80, because our seers said so" < 1480205345 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: well the plot was that the corp wanted the writings in the public domain sooner than later hence the covertly hired assasins < 1480205351 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would make sense in a cyberpunk setting like morgan's, but i don't know if copyright will be a thing like today in those < 1480205389 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not convinced < 1480205445 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking about corps makes me want to build new netrunner decks... < 1480205603 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1480205641 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have actually played that. I find it hillariously badly confused what hacking is actually about. < 1480205670 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacking in the senes of gaining access to something without consent < 1480205722 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :'series of tubes with firewalls' < 1480205927 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's caricaturally hollywoodian, and runs with it all the way through, with flavour and lore and extra material. < 1480205942 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not meant to be serious hacking. < 1480205953 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :netrunner should have cards that are on a corps server such when reviealed it says "Congratulations! You gained access to the sysadmins breakroom fridge wishlist!" < 1480206080 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :there there is another card: "You can hire an tech to make te sysadmins new fridge act like an exfiltration device for getting out goodies without being detected" < 1480206160 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, does intercal have exceptions of some kind? < 1480206177 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on error come from perhaps?) < 1480206195 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480206279 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helløily < 1480206652 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah, I know it is caricaturally hollywoodian which is based on something an script writer half remembered when asking phone phreaks and hackers how they did it. < 1480206671 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hence the 'trace' and such stuff. < 1480207024 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you need to ask ais523 that hth < 1480207029 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reminds me, I remember I saw in one movie that came after War Games where an combination of computer clubs bought one pager (with service) and a 900 number. They then cloned the pager and linked the 900 number to its number. Then they used it for sort of data 'broadcast' for their members. (You could send alphanumerical text to the pager via DTMF scheme the pager service published) < 1480207040 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1480207043 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth ([ʰtʰh̩]) is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1480207118 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the members connected their 'pagers' to their home computers and left them running) < 1480207155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems unlikely to work hth < 1480207182 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :the data broadcast service the clobbed together? < 1480207190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1480207190 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :they* < 1480207229 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :why was it unlikely to work? pager systems in those days didnt use cell phone architecture < 1480207275 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd assume the telecom network would track approximate pager location, and not be able to register several simultaneously... < 1480207304 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless the service was actually designed for having several pagers on one number < 1480207307 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :an pager was bascially an small recieve only radio hard tuned to the pager service broadcast frequency and knew its id code < 1480207340 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok receive only? i guess it could work then. < 1480207356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then only in the designated area the broadcasts reach < 1480207387 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was usually whole of USA (in that movie at least) < 1480207411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic. < 1480207448 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess with low enough customer base they could do that. < 1480207501 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :the customer base was huge, many hospitals, police forces, fire stations and so on used these from what I have read < 1480207533 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see the data sent for a page wasnt that much < 1480207572 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg hth < 1480207575 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9673:2016-11-12 slwd hth//s/\xca\xb0\xc9\x99/h\xcc\xa9/ \ 9672:2016-11-12 slwd hth//s/\xc9\x99\xcc\xa5/\xc9\x99/ \ 9671:2016-11-12 slwd hth//s/ / ([\xca\xb0t\xca\xb0\xca\xb0\xc9\x99\xcc\xa5]) / \ 6776:2016-02-10 ` echo \'hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.\' > wisdom/hth \ < 1480207581 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck with many pagers in a group then only one packet needed to be sent as each pager in the group also listened for the group id code < 1480207592 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/hth < 1480207596 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjän oerjän oerjän zgrëp hppavilion[1̈] boil̈y boil̈y < 1480207757 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :the funny thing is, in that movie, the telecomms company found out what the clubbers were doing. But all calls to the pagers number went through the 900 number so the bill broke even. The company just put a rate limter on the pager number and didnt care further. < 1480207892 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :This and other stuff, might have been the inspiration for Outernet.is (which isnt an Icelandic site though it is registered via ISNIC) < 1480208162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :til < 1480209152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480209352 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It it", "Is is", "If is", "Illinois", "I hiss", "Titties", "Ibis", "Iris", "Italy", "[DATA EXPANDED]". < 1480209539 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1480210208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480211045 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right you no longer need let in ghci < 1480211396 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The date today is Ah, 1993-09-8489 < 1480211420 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Ah, // < 1480211794 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa whoa whoa < 1480211802 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should upgrade sometime. < 1480211803 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode h̩ < 1480211805 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0068 LATIN SMALL LETTER H \ UTF-8: 68 UTF-16BE: 0068 Decimal: h \ h (H) \ Uppercase: U+0048 \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+0329 COMBINING VERTICAL LINE BELOW \ UTF-8: cc a9 UTF-16BE: 0329 Decimal: ̩ \ ̩ \ Category: Mn (Mark, Non-Spacing) \ Bidi: NSM (Non-Spacing Mark) \ Combining: 220 (Below) < 1480212066 0 :computing!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1480212073 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1480212273 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1480212599 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\. it's a syllabic h hth < 1480212613 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people still use Haskell? < 1480214019 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Incident14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50408&oldid=50406 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+1107) 10/* O(log n) version */ Comparison < 1480214048 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1480214060 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's useful for calculations hth < 1480214124 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like those i just posted) < 1480214805 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think your date is wrong < 1480214971 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realizes many (most?) people here weren't born when eternal september started < 1480215037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: ...how? < 1480215152 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ummmmmmmmmmmm its 2016 < 1480215164 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What date will be the 10000 of september? < 1480215191 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1480215205 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me calcit < 1480215280 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which year was the eternal September of? < 1480215289 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :every year hth < 1480215312 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there must have been ephemeral Septembers before that, no? < 1480215326 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :before eternity? < 1480215333 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 2021-01-15 is 1993-09-10000 < 1480215342 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait < 1480215346 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last ephemeral september was 1992 hth < 1480215352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I got that date, it was tomorrow in the local timezone < 1480215403 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was born before that, but too young to experience it < 1480215420 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` date --date 'September 10000, 1993' < 1480215421 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :date: invalid date `September 10000, 1993' < 1480215432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappoint < 1480215477 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` date --date 'September 30, 1993' < 1480215477 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thu Sep 30 00:00:00 UTC 1993 < 1480215584 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SEDUCTIVE CHICKEN < 1480215597 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that program can do it < 1480215602 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can read about it in the mandate hth < 1480215614 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` date -d 'September 1, 1993 + 9999 days' < 1480215615 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sat Jan 16 00:00:00 UTC 2021 < 1480215630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1480215632 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "it was tomorrow"? < 1480215644 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: and you ask how..... < 1480215652 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will have been tomorrow < 1480215665 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: at least that is gramatically correct < 1480215676 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is "it was tomorrow" < 1480215682 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1480215684 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the error is not grammatical < 1480215689 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's even an error < 1480215700 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :temporally incorrect < 1480215701 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no error at all, actually, not in that fragment < 1480215733 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What day did we decide on, again? Ah, right, it was tomorrow." < 1480215774 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1480215866 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :you thought the day for jam was tomorrow, but it will have been changed to yesterday < 1480215949 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1480215996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you will have found it to have continued to be jam tomorrow even tomorrow. < 1480216698 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480216752 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :⌑(¬jam ∧ ◯jam) < 1480216852 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shem, Jam, and Hafet < 1480216913 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ham and jam sounds interesting < 1480217047 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :more interesting than the other entry to the language design competition, it seems < 1480217058 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they should have used a white queen… < 1480217108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What entry? < 1480217117 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/ARGENTOS < 1480217140 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Were there only two entries? < 1480217245 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :only two are listed on the esowiki < 1480217530 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1480217658 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Is that something modal then there now? < 1480217912 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode < 1480217912 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0020 SPACE] < 1480218577 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHH < 1480218600 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TTF is a HORRIBLE format!!!! < 1480218776 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOO why doesn't it worrrrrrrrrkk < 1480218926 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then use a different format; there are many better ones < 1480219038 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: did you decide? < 1480219071 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Decide what again?? < 1480219088 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if we can be friends? < 1480219104 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Oh :P < 1480219106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yes < 1480219110 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEY < 1480219111 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1480219123 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so sorry for making you wait < 1480219131 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will never happen again < 1480220622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1480220659 0 :zpez!~packt@89.249.74.218 JOIN :#esoteric < 1480220998 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have recently added into OAA a compile-time optimization for arithmetic operations on constants. (For example if you type 1 2ADD it will automatically replace it with 3) OAC does not have this feature. < 1480221969 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some programming languages have no bitwise operations (such as, OASYS VM doesn't have, and I think Pascal also doesn't have; if you look at the code of TeX and METAFONT you will see that they don't use bitwise operations; also TI-92 has no bitwise operations), although I have figured out ways to do anyways (depending what needs to be done you can simplify it). Have you ever done stuff like this too? < 1480222117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480222175 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of programming languages use `s and ~s and ^s < 1480222192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is weird because they're etymologically supposed to be diacritics that lost their diacriticism < 1480222273 0 :zpez!~packt@89.249.74.218 PART #esoteric : < 1480222304 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are used because they are ASCII characters is I think mainly why < 1480222459 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well yes < 1480222481 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: They're only in ASCII because they were used as diacritics, but they were never meant to stand alone < 1480222552 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They may have been intended as such, but actual ASCII systems never supported them as such. < 1480222569 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though a decent number of the national ASCII variants did. < 1480222627 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make overtype by backspace, but that is unlikely on a VDU anyways. < 1480222652 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what would happen if ASCII had *more* diacritics than just gràve, tĩlde, câret? What might programming languages use a floating macrōn or brĕve, dȯt or ümlaut, ri̊ng or carǒn for? < 1480222673 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yeah, that was the original usage afaict. It applied to lots of other combinors too < 1480222701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, rule: All names for diacritical marks should contain the diacritical mark. < 1480222706 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you can make cents sign too for example. But as I said such uses are more suitable for paper than for VDU. < 1480222728 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes < 1480222729 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, ASCII was a 1963 spec. < 1480222752 0 :paul2520_!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1480222758 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was straight-up assumed output would be to a hard-copy teletypewriter. < 1480222762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The name shouldn't be derived from languages where the symbol is used; the symbol should just have a generic, perhaps systematic name) < 1480222765 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes < 1480222850 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, and now that is rarely the case, although you can still fake it if necessary < 1480224239 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1480224600 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It'd be interesting to see software emulating overtype. < 1480224732 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I can think of a really easy (if lame) way of doing it just to cover textual use. < 1480224756 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Replace backspace-and-diacritic with the Unicode combining character < 1480225159 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, or whatever kind of typesetting system you may be using < 1480225713 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :combining backspace < 1480226092 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Frontspace? < 1480226490 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's just called space < 1480226865 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok I can't figure out at all why this doesn't work < 1480227147 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1480233209 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1480233877 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody on #xkcd on Foonetic just described Darmok as being about the characters meeting a culture that only talks in memes xD < 1480237797 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1480239781 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1480242229 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1480242753 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1480242854 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1480244552 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@2a02:a448:4a62:1:7dce:10:5341:f0e8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1480248202 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1480248539 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:a5b3:c469:23cc:9933 JOIN :#esoteric < 1480250812 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:a5b3:c469:23cc:9933 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1480253219 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1480253646 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( early adopter, n.: guinea pig. ) < 1480253937 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480254957 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Javagony14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50409&oldid=46003 5* 03Flawr 5* (+4) 10 < 1480255190 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd4bd0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.75.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1480255352 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1480255378 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1480255394 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1480256665 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480257139 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1480258543 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480258610 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1480259414 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1480262251 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480262511 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1480263582 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhat appropos to the netrunner chat yesterday: http://www.cap-lore.com/Economics/DSR/SilkSec.html ;-Þ < 1480263715 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd4bd0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.75.208 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 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:moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1480270732 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Incident14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50411&oldid=50408 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+358) 10/* O(log n) version */ Updated calculations < 1480270952 0 :function!~root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: /dev/null is full < 1480271116 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1480271399 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480271451 0 :function!~root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1480271710 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1480271837 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1480272416 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Incident14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50412&oldid=50411 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+380) 10/* O(log n) version */ Larger charsets < 1480272431 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1480272503 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ObCode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50413&oldid=50162 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+2) 10 < 1480276380 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1480276785 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Calculator14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50414 5* 03Slnetaiga 5* (+2109) 10Initial < 1480276928 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1480276931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Slnetaiga14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50415&oldid=50404 5* 03Slnetaiga 5* (+17) 10 < 1480278138 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480279086 0 :computing!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1480279140 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1480280080 0 :function!~root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: found 1 in /dev/zero < 1480280144 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480280168 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1480280179 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :backward//¯\(o​_°)/¯ ?sdrawkcab < 1480280292 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sdrawkcab < 1480280294 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdrawkcab? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1480280296 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? drawkcab < 1480280297 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drawkcab? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1480280304 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew. < 1480280441 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olle-tni. < 1480280549 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :?ti deen uoy nehw elopam eht si erehW < 1480280549 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: tic-tac-toe ticker time wn v thx rc pl id do bid bf @ ? . < 1480280559 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tic-tac-tow < 1480280560 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a nice game of chess? < 1480280593 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know that command. < 1480280642 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ... there's a typo: < 1480280645 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help tic-tac-toe < 1480280645 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry Dave, I'm affraid I don't know that command < 1480280745 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lends int-e his mapole < 1480280785 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles boily straight into the 21st century. < 1480280805 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow. < 1480280874 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480281059 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-75-233.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1480281206 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1480282166 0 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1480282169 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1480282169 0 :sdhand!kyubiko@unaffiliated/kyubiko QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1480282184 0 :int-e_!?@? NICK :int-e < 1480282199 0 :sdhand!kyubiko@irc.sircmpwn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1480282223 0 :sdhand!?@? NICK :Guest29830 < 1480282277 0 :puckipedia!puck@puckipedia.com QUIT :K-Lined < 1480282337 0 :Guest29830!?@? NICK :sdhand < 1480282350 0 :sdhand!kyubiko@irc.sircmpwn.com QUIT :Changing host < 1480282350 0 :sdhand!kyubiko@unaffiliated/kyubiko JOIN :#esoteric < 1480282361 0 :puckipedia!puck@puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1480282495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480283141 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :All The Tropes Wiki includes, on its article about "Every Man Has His Price", says about Magic: the Gathering, "[...] this is the default behavior of black, which uses everything as a resource". But what about, using costing you the game in later duels in a match as a resource, or in a team game, using players as a resource? < 1480283192 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think black might often use players' loyalty as a resource. < 1480283452 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Players can concede at any time, so even in a Archenemy game with ten vs one, the team might find a way to win that involves nine of their ten players conceding, and the remaining player winning, therefore allowing the entire team to win. < 1480283548 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another idea I thought of is to write the card: Indirectly phase out target permanent. < 1480283848 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The rules would need to be adjusted slightly, but depending on your point of view this may be considered merely a clarification.) < 1480284863 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1480284867 0 :hppavilion[0]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480285059 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1480285102 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1480285268 0 :computing!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1480285319 0 :hppavilion[0]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1480285805 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1480286410 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1480286411 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if//If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss: < 1480286619 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1480286736 0 :hppavilion[0]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480286768 0 :hppavilion[0]!?@? 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