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00:06:22 <fizzie> Seen in an ad: "This X facing larger than average X apartment based within X House boasts stunning views from the X floor and also benefits from a spacious winter garden overlooking the X."
00:06:31 <fizzie> Sounds a little... generic.
00:06:59 <moonheart08> lol
00:08:09 <shachaf> http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-37686909.html
00:08:26 <fizzie> It was actually a different place in rightmove.
00:08:44 <fizzie> Same estate agent, though.
00:09:05 <shachaf> Are you buying real estate?
00:09:17 <fizzie> No, just looking.
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00:10:12 <shachaf> Do you think buying bay area real estate is a good idea?
00:10:30 <fizzie> I have absolutely no qualifications to give out investment advice.
00:10:35 <fizzie> I hear it's pretty expensive though?
00:11:03 <fizzie> Someone from our team just moved to thereabouts the other week.
00:11:09 <fizzie> Took their cat and all.
00:11:17 <shachaf> So is London real estate, going by the link above.
00:11:20 <fizzie> Not sure if they're buying or renting.
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00:13:32 <oerjan> @messages-cloudy
00:13:32 <lambdabot> boily asked 12h 9m 58s ago: hellørjan. am I missing something? it is very confuzzling → http://imgur.com/a/SV0VK
00:13:32 <lambdabot> int-e said 12h 1s ago: ä?
00:13:32 <lambdabot> boily said 11h 47m 18s ago: hellørjagain. äëḧïöẗüẅẍÿ.
00:13:52 <moonheart08> boily == extra chicken jokes
00:14:41 <shachaf> helloerjan
00:14:50 <oerjan> @tell boily your client probably doesn't recognize that it is utf-8, because of the weird private use chars which i was trying to warn you about.
00:14:50 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
00:14:59 <shachaf> Is buying Trondheim real estate a good idea?
00:15:33 <oerjan> quite probably, it is growing fast
00:15:56 <oerjan> although norway _does_ probably have a housing bubble, so...
00:16:03 <shachaf> Do the current prices not take that into account?
00:16:12 <shachaf> I don't know anything about the real estate market.
00:16:13 <fizzie> I've heard there's a tax trick you can do if you buy a newly constructed apartment in Finland.
00:16:17 <fizzie> That's probably a good idea.
00:16:22 <shachaf> What's the trick?
00:16:39 <oerjan> i am not paying enough attention to tell you who is right about this hth
00:16:39 <shachaf> I like tax tricks.
00:17:08 <shachaf> I did some small tax tricks this year but nothing really fancy.
00:17:20 <fizzie> I didn't quite catch the details. It's something to do with the thing where they sell the apartment at a price that doesn't cover all of it, and then you also get a share of the loan.
00:17:39 <fizzie> Then you can do some deductions.
00:18:10 <fizzie> http://www.hs.fi/kaupunki/art-2000004881249.html hth
00:18:14 <shachaf> Why are capital gains tax rates so low?
00:19:15 <fizzie> 34% isn't that low.
00:19:58 <shachaf> Oh, it's higher in Finland than in Norway.
00:21:01 <shachaf> In the US the maximum is 20%, and even that's only on amounts over $415,050/year apparently.
00:21:03 <fizzie> And of course Finland reserves the right to tax me anything the UK doesn't.
00:21:32 <shachaf> On the other hand California will charge up to 13.3% on top of that. So I guess it works out similarly to Finland at high amounts.
00:21:42 <shachaf> But it's still much lower than income tax.
00:22:04 <fizzie> In Finland it's a non-progressive 34% with no allowances, if I recall correctly.
00:22:23 <fizzie> No matter if it's your one euro bank account interest, or what.
00:22:40 <shachaf> Interest is taxed as capital gains?
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00:23:30 <fizzie> I think it's actually slightly different, it's a 30% "lähdevero", I don't know what that is in English.
00:24:12 <fizzie> Some special kind of interest get taxed as capital gains. Or something like that.
00:24:15 <fizzie> It's all so complicated.
00:24:15 <shachaf> "Withholding tax is levied in Finland for longer than six months from receiving incoming alien force from Finland."
00:24:52 <oerjan> huh, i was right. i saw a car plate starting with EK197 today, and thought "that means we must be just about rounding 100000 electric cars in norway"
00:25:37 <oerjan> googled it, and the news said it was passed today.
00:25:58 <shachaf> https://cleantechnica.com/2016/05/13/norway-4th-country-hit-100000-electric-car-sales/ says it was in May?
00:26:05 <oerjan> oh?
00:26:32 <shachaf> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_electric_vehicles_in_Norway says "Registrations of light-duty plug-in electric vehicles in Norway passed the 100,000 unit milestone in April 2016.[20][21]"
00:26:40 <shachaf> Anyway, that's a lot of cars.
00:27:10 <oerjan> hm they must be counting slightly differently.
00:29:47 <fizzie> Maybe it's total sold/registered cars vs. cars registered at a given time.
00:30:07 <oerjan> possibly.
00:31:11 <fizzie> From what I've heard, Finland's lagging a whole lot behind when it comes to these electric thingamajiggers.
00:31:48 <shachaf> fizzie: why don't you produce some car-shaped ascii art over in that other channel hth
00:32:02 <fizzie> shachaf: I'd get mugged, I think.
00:32:23 <fizzie> I already saw that 'evilpatterns' thing.
00:32:39 <shachaf> Oh, you looked at the code.
00:32:44 <shachaf> Are you going to submit a patch?
00:33:28 <fizzie> I'm not sure I'm artistic enough. I left open tabs for the repository and a picture of an Eurostar train, I think that's enough.
00:33:33 <fizzie> I'll clean them up in a year or so.
00:34:31 <hppavilion[1]> Conditional proof of q given p: A proof that p -> q; Contingent proof of q given p: A proof that p <-> q
00:35:26 <fizzie> Wikipedia "Electric car use by country" article says there were "about 2250" plug-in electric cars on "Finish" roads as of October 2016.
00:37:38 <shachaf> Are Finns good at driving in snowy and icy conditions?
00:38:17 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: Well, the entirety of Fennoscandia is pretty snowy and icy most of the time, so I doubt they'd even give you a license if you couldn't drive in it
00:38:39 <fizzie> I think relatively speaking, allegedly, yes.
00:38:39 <FireFly> [citation needed]
00:39:00 <shachaf> Are you good at driving in snowy and icy conditions?
00:39:21 <hppavilion[1]> Who?
00:39:35 <fizzie> At least a practical session on a slicky surface is a mandatory part of the driver's license education.
00:39:45 <shachaf> FireFly: HireFly
00:40:03 <shachaf> maybe fizzie can HireFly to draw an ascii art eurostar train
00:40:04 <FireFly> that is the case here too, and apparently it is also very fun to slide around with the car
00:40:10 <FireFly> hachaf
00:40:14 <hppavilion[1]> fizzie: I've argued that, here in Alaska, there should be two levels of driver's license (well, aside from all the other versions for buses and motorcycles and big rigs and such)
00:40:47 <shachaf> Here there aren't even different levels of driving license for manual and automatic cars.
00:40:56 <hppavilion[1]> A Summer License and a General License, where the Summer License is invalid in Winter whereas a General License applies year-round
00:40:57 <fizzie> I vaguely recall some sort of a downhill track with things you had to swerve past.
00:41:04 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: I'm not sure they have those anywhere...
00:41:58 * hppavilion[1] is proud of himself for saying "Fennoscandia"
00:42:15 <shachaf> In many places you can get an automatic-only license.
00:42:50 <hppavilion[1]> Huh, never heard of that
00:43:14 <shachaf> Well, there are no manual cars in the US.
00:43:21 <hppavilion[1]> `? svaldbard
00:43:27 <hppavilion[1]> `? svalbard
00:43:28 <HackEgo> svaldbard? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
00:43:29 <HackEgo> svalbard? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
00:43:35 <fizzie> I don't think I've ever driven a "proper" automatic transmission car. I did rent one of those Smart cars which had the poor man's variant, where the car shifts on its own, though.
00:43:42 <hppavilion[1]> >:D
00:43:54 <hppavilion[1]> Until a better idea comes along
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00:44:40 <shachaf> fizzie: What's the difference between that and proper automatic transmission?
00:44:53 <fizzie> "A semi-automatic transmission (SAT) (also known as a clutchless manual transmission, automated manual transmission, trigger shift, flappy-paddle gear shift, or paddle-shift gearbox) --"
00:44:58 <fizzie> shachaf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_transmission hth
00:45:11 <shachaf> Aha.
00:45:39 <shachaf> So you still need to shift gears.
00:45:41 <hppavilion[1]> `learn Svalbard is the place where Norway keeps the seeds for its pseudo-RNGs so that they can recover their language if it is ever lost.
00:45:47 <HackEgo> Learned 'svalbard': Svalbard is the place where Norway keeps the seeds for its pseudo-RNGs so that they can recover their language if it is ever lost.
00:45:55 <fizzie> Well, no, it also has automatics to decide to execute a shift.
00:46:04 <fizzie> "-- execute gear shifts on input from the driver or by a computer."
00:46:06 <shachaf> I don't see the humour of that wisdom entry.
00:46:07 <fizzie> The latter kind.
00:46:21 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: I tried, OK?
00:46:21 <hppavilion[1]> `? humor
00:46:22 <HackEgo> humor? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
00:46:39 <shachaf> So what's the practical difference in that case?
00:47:14 <fizzie> shachaf: See the "Comparison to other automated transmissions" section, especially the "despite superficial similarity" paragraph hth hand
00:49:55 <shachaf> I see.
00:50:10 <shachaf> Do you think £1,100,000 is a good price for a 2-bedroom apartment in that part of London?
00:52:10 <fizzie> It sounds a little much.
00:52:19 <fizzie> But the Battersea Power Station is probably quite trendy.
00:52:32 <fizzie> I heard Apple's going to build their London engineering office there.
00:52:49 <fizzie> Or maybe a more general UK HQ, I don't know.
00:52:52 <fizzie> Apple something, anyway.
00:53:05 <fizzie> "The technology company has agreed to take 500,000 sq ft of office space across six floors in the power station’s central boiler house. It will move 1,400 Apple employees into the building in 2021 from its eight other London offices."
01:00:06 <oerjan> `learn Svalbard is the place where Norway keeps the Global Seed Vault, so that the world's PRNGs can be reseeded in case of a civilization-threatening disaster.
01:00:15 <HackEgo> Relearned 'svalbard': Svalbard is the place where Norway keeps the Global Seed Vault, so that the world's PRNGs can be reseeded in case of a civilization-threatening disaster.
01:01:13 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: That's better
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01:16:14 <oerjan> @tell boily Actually, it looks like it didn't cope with the trip through lambdabot.
01:16:14 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:20:51 <oerjan> @tell int-e <int-e> boily: I'm wondering whether @tell messes up unicode <-- it messed up that particular message. as even the original didn't show up as a snake for me, i'll have to defer to hppavilion[1] on it.
01:20:51 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:22:38 <oerjan> `unidecode 
01:22:44 <HackEgo> U+F80D - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: ef a0 8d UTF-16BE: f80d Decimal: &#63501; \  () \ Uppercase: U+F80D \ Category: Co (Other, Private Use) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+F80E - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: ef a0 8e UTF-16BE: f80e Decimal: &#63502; \  () \ Uppercase: U+F80E \ Categ
01:24:35 <oerjan> `unidecode 斬
01:24:37 <HackEgo> ​[U+65AC CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-65AC]
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01:25:09 <oerjan> @tell oerjan_ 斬!
01:25:09 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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01:25:19 <oerjan_> @messages-
01:25:19 <lambdabot> oerjan said 10s ago: 斬!
01:25:35 <oerjan_> @tell oerjan 
01:25:35 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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01:25:42 <oerjan> @messages-
01:25:42 <lambdabot> oerjan_ said 6s ago: ï ï Žï Žï Ž
01:25:46 <oerjan> that breaks
01:26:55 <oerjan> `unidecode � �� �� �� �
01:26:57 <HackEgo> ​[U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER] [U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER] [U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER] [U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER]
01:28:14 <oerjan> AAAAAA
01:29:05 <oerjan> ^ord 
01:29:05 <fungot> 239 160 141 239 160 142 239 160 142 239 160 142
01:29:38 <oerjan> @tell int-e oh. i think it may be our friend byte no. 160 again.
01:29:38 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:30:51 <oerjan> @tell int-e all the chars hppavilion[1] used start have the bytes 239 160 + one more.
01:30:51 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:31:18 <oerjan> i start cannot edit my own start line apparently
01:33:14 <oerjan> > var "\239\160\141"
01:33:16 <lambdabot> ïÂ
01:33:46 <oerjan> somehow that's still different from what boily saw
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01:36:28 <oerjan> @tell int-e so they get destroyed by the use of unwords . words or what it was.
01:36:28 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:41:41 <oerjan> @tell boily lambdabot @tell only messes up utf-8 chars containing the byte 160 (because of the stupid fact it's the only character 128-255 that's a unicode space, and lambdabot at one point treats the bytes are chars when reformatting). it's a known bug which i forgot hadn't been fixed.
01:41:41 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:42:04 <oerjan> @tell boily *as
01:42:04 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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02:46:25 <oerjan> @tell \oren\ <\oren\> uh... why is the dutch election on the Ides of March? <-- logically it's a very good day for the senate to be closed hth
02:46:25 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
02:48:11 <oerjan> @tell \oren\ never mind, that's the part they're _not_ reelecting, it seems.
02:48:11 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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03:29:31 <zzo38> For use with cgophserv I also made up a program "gopherhurl" which is used when you want to add a link to a protocol other than gopher, telnet, or phonebook. (For example, a HTTP link)
03:32:52 <zzo38> How to add support for new picture formats to Firefox by extensions?
03:34:28 <zzo38> (I want to add support for XBM and XPM formats)
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03:35:56 <hppavilion[1]> My father just said "No man is an ø" (ø = island in Danish)
03:39:22 <oerjan> especially, no man is Iceland
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03:45:39 <Jafet> apparently post-correspondence using 3×3 matrices is undecidable: https://arxiv.org/abs/1312.6700
03:47:56 <Jafet> “The matrix mortality problem is, given a set of d×d integer matrices, decide if the zero matrix can be expressed as a product”
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03:54:02 <zzo38> Now I added a program into Farbfeld Utilities to make a chess pattern.
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03:56:34 <zzo38> Do you like this?
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06:15:01 <hppavilion[0]> @tell \oren\ Maybe yꙮu shꙮuld just make ꙮ the default glyph fꙮr 'o' in neꙮletters
06:15:01 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
06:18:15 <myname> wtf unicode space
06:23:33 <Jafet> `unicode monocular o
06:23:43 <HackEgo> U+A668 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER MONOCULAR O \ UTF-8: ea 99 a8 UTF-16BE: a668 Decimal: &#42600; \ Ꙩ (ꙩ) \ Lowercase: U+A669 \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+A669 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER MONOCULAR O \ UTF-8: ea 99 a9 UTF-16BE: a669 Decimal: &#42601; \ ꙩ (Ꙩ) \ Uppercase: U+A668 \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowerc
06:23:50 <Jafet> `unicode binocular o
06:23:53 <HackEgo> U+A66A CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER BINOCULAR O \ UTF-8: ea 99 aa UTF-16BE: a66a Decimal: &#42602; \ Ꙫ (ꙫ) \ Lowercase: U+A66B \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+A66B CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER BINOCULAR O \ UTF-8: ea 99 ab UTF-16BE: a66b Decimal: &#42603; \ ꙫ (Ꙫ) \ Uppercase: U+A66A \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowerc
06:28:10 <Jafet> `unicode Ꙫ⃝
06:28:14 <HackEgo> U+A66A CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER BINOCULAR O \ UTF-8: ea 99 aa UTF-16BE: a66a Decimal: &#42602; \ Ꙫ (ꙫ) \ Lowercase: U+A66B \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+20DD COMBINING ENCLOSING CIRCLE \ UTF-8: e2 83 9d UTF-16BE: 20dd Decimal: &#8413; \ ⃝ \ Category: Me (Mark, Enclosing) \ Bidi: NSM (Non-Spacing Mark)
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06:44:56 <hppavilion[1]> I have setup my intentionally-illegible font. Now to train myself to read it.
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09:09:00 <int-e> oerjan: I had conveniently forgotten about the unwords misbehavior
09:09:27 <int-e> oerjan: as for the snake, I think \oren\ is to blame for that, he has some silly custom characters in his font.
09:20:34 <oerjan> int-e: yeah i think i vaguely remember when he decided to include it
09:20:55 <oerjan> int-e: also, it's words that misbehaves, really
09:21:23 <oerjan> (assuming we sweep under the carpet the whole confusing-Chars-and-bytes thing)
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10:22:47 <quintopia> fungot: wazzup
10:22:48 <fungot> quintopia: i haven't been around for years for assessment. developing real, useful programs is more than fits into cmd.exe buffer god damnit!
10:23:46 <quintopia> fungot: interesting
10:23:46 <fungot> quintopia: don't bite me: yow")
10:23:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Wct]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50505&oldid=49100 * Mihip * (-135)
10:24:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Wct]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50506&oldid=49098 * Mihip * (+2) /* Updated. */
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10:36:45 <fizzie> fungot: You really should get your regular assessments done.
10:36:45 <fungot> fizzie: well some schemes evaluate it with c-x c-e in emacs? emacs doesn't know by default that you're not interested in
10:42:21 <quintopia> fungot: what if you wrote in vi instead?
10:42:21 <fungot> quintopia: s/ dissemination/ free fnord" ( fnord proc)) creates the same button fnord but other things have to be
10:46:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[MATL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50507&oldid=49767 * Luis Mendo * (-1) /* Fibonacci sequence */
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10:58:54 <Jafet> @yow
10:58:54 <lambdabot> FUN is never having to say you're SUSHI!!
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11:35:47 <boily> `wisdom
11:35:50 <boily> @massages-loud
11:35:50 <lambdabot> oerjan said 11h 20m 59s ago: your client probably doesn't recognize that it is utf-8, because of the weird private use chars which i was trying to warn you about.
11:35:50 <lambdabot> oerjan said 10h 19m 35s ago: Actually, it looks like it didn't cope with the trip through lambdabot.
11:35:50 <lambdabot> oerjan said 9h 54m 8s ago: lambdabot @tell only messes up utf-8 chars containing the byte 160 (because of the stupid fact it's the only character 128-255 that's a unicode space, and lambdabot at one
11:35:50 <lambdabot> point treats the bytes are chars when reformatting). it's a known bug which i forgot hadn't been fixed.
11:35:50 <lambdabot> oerjan said 9h 53m 45s ago: *as
11:35:53 <HackEgo> keenlist//keenlist is notification for when Tom Hall finally acquires the necessary intellectual property rights to create the videogame series Commander Keen: The Universe is Toast
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11:40:38 <boily> @tell oerjan hellørjan. the 160 bug strikes again. tdh.
11:40:38 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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12:21:05 <boily> `wisdom
12:21:08 <HackEgo> internationale//You have been reported to the House Un-American Activities Committee.
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13:21:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[LAMPA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50508&oldid=50441 * Slnetaiga * (+18) Update
13:29:32 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[OOLANG]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50509&oldid=50175 * Slnetaiga * (+189) It's turing complete?
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13:51:05 <moony> moo
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15:04:07 <zzo38> I want to propose three new functions for JavaScript typed array instances which are .byteSwap() .fromBigEndian() .fromSmallEndian() Do you like this?
15:07:26 <moony> hmm, i've never bothered with typed arrays
15:07:59 <moony> from what i know about them, it may be a nice idea
15:08:08 <moony> zzo38, +1
15:14:43 <zzo38> I think typed arrays were a good feature to add to JavaScript. (JSZM (which is a Z-machine implementation I wrote in JavaScript) uses them, and I think that it is good in general anyways.)
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15:17:02 <FireFly> I don't really see how they'd be necessary when you can have an ArrayBuffer with several differently typed views of it
15:17:58 <FireFly> or hm
15:18:23 <FireFly> there was also another interface that provides functions that you can use to read values with flipped endianness
15:18:25 <FireFly> let's see
15:18:34 <zzo38> Yes there is DataView
15:18:37 <FireFly> ah right
15:18:47 <FireFly> I guess one would have to use that currently
15:19:06 <FireFly> how would your methods work for typed arrays?
15:19:14 <zzo38> It is good, although it isn't ideal for all purposes
15:20:00 <zzo38> How my methods would work is: For 8-bit data all of these functions do nothing. For other data the .byteSwap() will byte swap all data in the array; on big-endian computers, .fromSmallEndian() does the same but .fromBigEndian() does nothing.
15:21:14 * moony wonders if a fullout excape for -js will be found, he also gives zzo38 another cookie for the concept
15:21:37 <moony> its workign so far, i plan on killing it when escaped, it has lasted :P
15:23:47 <zzo38> The definition could even allow to detect endianness to write something like (Int16Array.prototype.byteSwap!=Int16Array.prototype.fromSmallEndian) will be true for small-endian computers and will be false for big-endian computers. (Currently the detection require to create a typed array to check)
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16:08:01 <wlp1s1> wat
16:08:05 <wlp1s1> who is poking otherbot
16:08:06 <wlp1s1> -poke FireFly
16:08:06 * otherbot pokes FireFly
16:08:16 <FireFly> umm
16:08:20 <FireFly> well moony told me to
16:08:26 <wlp1s1> oh ok
16:08:27 <wlp1s1> ll
16:08:31 <wlp1s1> -poke
16:08:31 * otherbot pokes wlp1s1 for not knowing how to use the poke command
16:08:34 <wlp1s1> -poke
16:08:34 * otherbot pokes wlp1s1 for not knowing how to use the poke command
16:08:38 <wlp1s1> -poke wlp1s1
16:08:38 * otherbot pokes wlp1s1 for expecting otherbot to poke one of its creators
16:08:41 <wlp1s1> heh
16:08:56 <moony> wlp1s1, dont bother firefly, he's helping. ^_^
16:09:03 <wlp1s1> -
16:09:03 <otherbot> n00b
16:09:06 <wlp1s1> lol
16:09:06 <wlp1s1> -
16:09:07 <otherbot> Wi lojpa ahu legohtat hi coifu laifoido tazhihhi tevoka pum let jouljit vahci.
16:09:08 <wlp1s1> -
16:09:08 <otherbot> That isn't a command...
16:09:09 <wlp1s1> -
16:09:09 <otherbot> You have been derped
16:09:11 <wlp1s1> -
16:09:11 <otherbot> ohai wlp1s1
16:09:15 <wlp1s1> -js blah
16:09:15 <otherbot> 'ReferenceError: blah is not defined | at evalmachine.<anonymous>:205:1 | at ContextifyScript.Script.runInContext (vm.js:35:29) | at jssb (/home/ubuntu/workspace/modules/sandboxes/sandbox.js:8:50) | at process.on (/home/ubuntu/workspace/modules/sandboxes/sandbox.js:32:18) | at emitTwo (events.js:106:13) | at process.emit (events.js:191:7) | at process.nextTick (internal/child_process.js:744:12) |
16:09:15 <otherbot> at _combinedTickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:67:7) | at process._tickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:98:9)'
16:09:20 <wlp1s1> uh
16:09:29 <wlp1s1> moony: TRUNCTUATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
16:09:35 <wlp1s1> <_<
16:09:46 <wlp1s1> -js process.exit()
16:09:46 <otherbot> 'Error: process.exit() is not allowed | at Object.process.exit (evalmachine.<anonymous>:203:9) | at evalmachine.<anonymous>:205:9 | at ContextifyScript.Script.runInContext (vm.js:35:29) | at jssb (/home/ubuntu/workspace/modules/sandboxes/sandbox.js:8:50) | at process.on (/home/ubuntu/workspace/modules/sandboxes/sandbox.js:32:18) | at emitTwo (events.js:106:13) | at process.emit (events.js:191:7) |
16:09:46 <otherbot> at process.nextTick (internal/child_process.js:744:12) | at _combinedTickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:67:7) | at process._tickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:98:9)'
16:09:53 <moony> ok
16:09:58 <moony> derp on my part
16:10:25 <moony> -reload
16:10:26 <otherbot> Reloaded modules
16:10:29 <moony> -js blah
16:10:30 <otherbot> 'ReferenceError: blah is not defined | at evalmachine.<anonymous>:205:1 | at ContextifyScript.Script.runInContext (vm.js:35:29) | at jssb (/home/ubuntu/workspace/modules/sandboxes/sandbox.js:8:50) | at process.on (/home/ubuntu/workspace/modules/sandboxes/sandbox.js:32:18) | at emitTwo (events.js:106:13) | at process.emit (events.js:191:7) | at process.nextTick (internal/child_process.js:7 (message truncated)
16:13:17 <iza> wut am dis
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16:13:27 <moony> hi iza
16:13:31 <iza> yo
16:13:44 <moony> can you explain what 'wut am dis' means? :P
16:13:59 <iza> this bot thing
16:14:04 <iza> wuzzat
16:14:27 <moony> oh, -js? thats achallange for people, if you can break out of the sandbox, you get my gratitude and a virtual cookie. so far its stood for a few months :P
16:14:40 <moony> otherbot is yab :P
16:14:46 <moony> owned by wlp1s1
16:14:48 <moony> i help dev it
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16:16:30 <wlp1s1> -poke iza
16:16:30 * otherbot pokes iza
16:16:31 <wlp1s1> heh
16:16:39 <wlp1s1> -help
16:16:40 <otherbot> Use 'help <command>'
16:16:48 <moony> -poke wlp1s1
16:16:48 * otherbot pokes wlp1s1
16:16:53 <moony> :)
16:16:57 <wlp1s1> ayyyyyyyy lmao
16:17:02 <wlp1s1> -poke wlp1s1
16:17:02 * otherbot pokes wlp1s1 for expecting otherbot to poke one of its creators
16:17:03 <wlp1s1> lol
16:17:14 <wlp1s1> -eval bot.cmds.poke.code.toString()
16:17:14 <otherbot> 'function (args,chan,host) {\n if (!args[0]) {args[0] = host[0]+\' for not knowing how to use the poke command\';}\n if (args[0].toLowerCase() == config.nick.toLowerCase() || args[0].toLowerCase() == "self" || args[0].toLowerCase() == "itself") {args[0] = host[0]+\' for expecting \'+config.nick+\' to poke itself\';}\n if (nopoke.indexOf(args[0].toLowerCase()) != -1) {args[0] = host[0]+\' for expecting \'+c
16:17:14 <otherbot> onfig.nick+\' to poke one of its creators\';}\n bot.sendMsg(chan,\'\\x01ACTION pokes \'+args[0]+\'\\x01\');\n }'
16:17:24 <moony> i didnt change anything :)
16:17:31 <moony> #invisiblecharactersftw
16:17:32 <wlp1s1> i can't poke myself lol
16:17:36 <wlp1s1> oh lol
16:18:04 <wlp1s1> -poke yourself
16:18:04 * otherbot pokes yourself
16:18:06 <wlp1s1> lol
16:18:08 <wlp1s1> -poke itself
16:18:08 * otherbot pokes wlp1s1 for expecting otherbot to poke itself
16:18:21 <wlp1s1> i mean
16:18:27 <wlp1s1> -list
16:18:27 <otherbot> wlp1s1: Command groups (use list <group>): general alias capitalism chanop fact fun main sandbox tpt track
16:18:31 <wlp1s1> -list sandbox
16:18:31 <otherbot> wlp1s1: pyc pad padol pyr giac befr padclr lolr ><>r js rsc ul
16:19:06 <moony> -pyc print "this isnt a challange, this is a actual sandbox :P"
16:19:07 <otherbot> ​this isnt a challange, this is a actual sandbox :P |
16:19:16 <wlp1s1> moony: strip ending \n?
16:19:27 <moony> wlp1s1, yea, its doing that
16:19:35 <wlp1s1> ok
16:20:01 <moony> ultrabasic replacements dont understand prettiness
16:20:12 <moony> :P
16:20:35 <moony> -help padol
16:20:35 <otherbot> moony: Override a line in your pad
16:20:46 <moony> -pad print 1+1
16:20:49 <moony> -pad print 2+2
16:20:57 <moony> -padol 2 print 3+3
16:20:57 <otherbot> You dont have a codepad with that line!
16:21:02 <moony> -padol 1 print 3+3
16:21:06 <moony> -pyr
16:21:06 <otherbot> ​2 | 6 |
16:31:47 <wlp1s1> oh hey look
16:31:52 <wlp1s1> you made otherbot a basic line editor
16:31:52 <wlp1s1> <_<
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16:51:15 <moony> wlp1s1, :P
16:51:21 <moony> its for multiline code
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18:33:48 <iza> sharks can grow back their teeth
18:33:52 <iza> #themoreyouknow
18:37:29 <zzo38> When Firefox is displaying Japanese text with bold fonts, it appears Korean with dots over. Non-bold fonts do not have that problem. How to fix it?
18:38:29 <shachaf> Fix it by not displaying Japanese text with bold fonts.
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18:39:51 <zzo38> But some webpages are programmed to do that anyways, and I think there is no CSS selector that could be used to check for Japanese text (which is not always marked with the language).
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19:12:19 <zzo38> Why are the SVG examples on W3C full of XML errors?
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19:34:18 <pikhq_> zzo38: There is the :lang() selector, but that does require explicit language tagging.
19:34:43 <zzo38> pikhq_: Yes, and as I said it will not always be explicit language tagging.
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20:00:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Osuka * New user account
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20:57:58 <\oren\> but i think square has a trademark on 神羅電気動力株式会社
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22:37:57 <int-e> I don't like the accusative tone of the latest xkcd (yesterday's, I suppose)
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22:57:51 <izabera> "Clean the place out, m'hearties!"
22:57:54 <izabera> a pirate said that
22:57:59 <izabera> what does that mean?
22:58:09 <izabera> the m'hearties part
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23:07:57 <fizzie> izabera: "hearty ‎(plural hearties) 1. (obsolete or humorous nautical) a term of familiar address and fellowship among sailors."
23:08:30 <izabera> ah i see
23:08:32 <izabera> thanks
23:09:00 <boily> `? pirate
23:09:19 <HackEgo> pirate? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
23:09:22 <izabera> is that something a native english speaker would understand without looking it up?
23:09:40 <boily> `learn Pirates are humourously nautical persons. Their grammar is friendly and plural.
23:09:46 <HackEgo> Learned 'pirate': Pirates are humourously nautical persons. Their grammar is friendly and plural.
23:10:23 <LKoen> izabera: if he's seen all four disney's pirates of the caribbean, yes
23:10:29 <LKoen> he must have heard that word at least 80 times
23:14:04 <fizzie> I think they would at least know that the adjective "hearty" is a positive one.
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23:38:24 <ybden> izabera: yes, it is
23:38:34 <ybden> I've not seen that film
23:38:42 <ybden> Or, read any books involving pirates, etc
23:39:36 <shachaf> hybden
23:40:07 <shachaf> Pirates' grammar is plural?
23:40:14 <shachaf> Would they call molum mola?
23:41:21 <ybden> I should ask a pirate
23:41:25 <ybden> This I do not know
23:45:12 <boily> hellochaf. mola mola.
23:45:53 <boily> fizziello, izabellora, ALLôen, ybdellon.
23:46:05 <shachaf> ybden doesn't know much about the antemolum period
23:46:37 <FireFly> bohily
23:47:59 <boily> FirelloFly!
23:48:12 <boily> shachaf: of course, it didn't have warfare cutlery yet.
23:49:11 <FireFly> Hmm
23:49:27 * FireFly is reminded of the chef in the place with trains in GG now
23:49:43 <shachaf> the place with trains?
23:49:51 <shachaf> TRAAAAAINS
23:49:57 <shachaf> underwhelming
23:50:15 <FireFly> ...fictional place in Girl Genius, not that other place with TRAAAINS
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23:52:50 <FireFly> http://girlgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Brother_Vadaxxus this guy, rather
23:52:57 <FireFly> he knows his stuff about warfare cutlery
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