< 1482192083 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1482192298 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1482192559 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1482192637 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482192641 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482192933 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1482193081 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1482193565 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... < 1482193576 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My client has labeled #esoteric as the network... < 1482193585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Quit: PH'NGLUI MGLW'NAFH HPPAVILION[1] LA'SKA WGAH'NAGL FHTAGN < 1482193604 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482193659 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1482193674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482193694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fix'd < 1482194264 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482194281 0 :benderB747!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:46a:5482:2913:3313 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482195389 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: yopumpkin < 1482195397 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's your pooch < 1482195453 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1482197448 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: As the first player, with Thorium Dynamo: DD-D1-DD, or DD-D1-1? < 1482197668 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you understand how this program is working? http://git.imagemagick.org/repos/ImageMagick/blob/master/MagickCore/fx.c#L3708 Is there an explanation anywhere? < 1482197717 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :magick hth < 1482198725 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1482198739 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :sin-leimeri.xm hth < 1482198896 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a famous song, I can't not see the substring "plasma" and not think of it.) < 1482199287 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziello. it doesn't appear to be on youtube. < 1482199398 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so it's not *that* famous. < 1482199420 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCLZ7P0Kw0U < 1482199446 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from the byterapers collection of Finnish demoscene music, http://www.byterapers.scene.org/scene-music.htm < 1482199457 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a direct link to that file? < 1482199485 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1nMhWc1Kok < 1482199504 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be ftp://ftp.byterapers.com/pub/extra/modules-humorouscollection/sin-leimeri.xm but it's not really relevant to your original question, and also the singing, it's in Finnish. < 1482199519 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, those links seem to have rotted away. :/ < 1482199544 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have my mirror at https://zem.fi/tmp/byterapers-modules-humorouscollection/sin-leimeri.xm anyway. < 1482199544 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK. I am not so good at Finnish anyways. I am not Finished. < 1482199735 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lyrics go approximately: "[expletive] I'm not a lamer / I can make a plasma effect / [expletive] I'm not a lamer / I'm just like Jmagic". (That would be Jmagic of Complex.) < 1482199849 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote non-Microsoft-specific < 1482199858 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :115) Why shouldn't I just do everything in non-Microsoft-specific C#? it's like trying to write non-IE-specific JavaScript with only Microsoft documentation and only IE to test on < 1482199885 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That quote may be old < 1482199905 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm implementing my database query language in C#. I'm doing all the development under Linux, with only FOSS tools. < 1482199917 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly, I'd much rather be using Visual Studio! < 1482199956 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have Visual Studio, use it then, but then don't use Microsoft-specific stuff, and then it will work on Linux too and other people can also to do the development under Linux with only FOSS tools. < 1482199968 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite database is the good old directory full of csv files < 1482199985 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... I don't think I have any actual reason not to use Visual Studio. < 1482200047 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly you should use Tcl. Because something recently reminded me of Tcl despite its terribleness for anything practical and/or security sensitive < 1482200380 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, I've thought a lot about doing mathematics without any ambient theory. < 1482200501 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing but sequences of symbols, and rules that you come up with. < 1482200537 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that like typographical mathematics? < 1482200552 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to talk about the integers? Haha, there's no such thing as "the integers". You need to come up with a sequence of symbols that you feel *represents* the integers, and then you can study those symbols. < 1482200565 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Typographical" in the way that was meant in Godel Escher Bach) < 1482200597 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, a lot like that. < 1482200598 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one chicken, two chickens, three chickens... < 1482200623 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I've found is that it seems to be a pretty miserable experience. < 1482200659 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98e0:7e6:a5a7:2e3a:c339:159a PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How many Dynamos do you want? How aggressive is the set? The only real downside to Thorium is that it cripples your ability to rush and defend against really early rushes somewhat. < 1482200671 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98e0:7e6:a5a7:2e3a:c339:159a PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Otherwise, I'd say just get as many as you can fit. < 1482200688 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it squanders one energy to build the dynamo at that point. < 1482200709 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it worth it in the case that there's no immediate attack coming? < 1482200730 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98e0:7e6:a5a7:2e3a:c339:159a PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's fair, though I would suspect you make the value back in most cases, just because Thorium is a better unit than drone. < 1482200776 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on things like how much green you need and whether you expect to get breached, I guess. < 1482200782 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though with the dynamo green is always good. < 1482200835 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now I want to find a really conservative mathematical framework to work inside of. < 1482200878 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZFC? Puh-lease! You can't even convince me that that's consistent. < 1482200898 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or maybe you can, I dunno.) < 1482200940 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can define the Ackermann function in it, it's too strong for me. < 1482201528 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boom. killed Antaeus. < 1482201565 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :up to 14! woohoo! < 1482201712 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98e0:7e6:a5a7:2e3a:c339:159a PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the green can always be converted to gold at some point, but unless you have just the right amount of green production, it might be locked away for a turn or so. It's still very efficient in the long run, and even if you're defending, it's always handy to be able to make a forcefield here and there. < 1482201753 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course if you're heavy on the dynamos you might not be able to make many forcefields. < 1482201762 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume this is Prismata discussion but I don't recognize dynamos < 1482201778 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wake me up to prismata when there's a good single-player runthrough to make me not terrible < 1482201789 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98e0:7e6:a5a7:2e3a:c339:159a PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cale.hn.org/reflex/PrismataUnits/PrismataUnits.jsexe/ < 1482201920 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98e0:7e6:a5a7:2e3a:c339:159a PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett_: Not accepting the Ackermann function is pretty extreme :) < 1482201927 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1482202781 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: nah, that's not extreme. < 1482202800 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extreme would be only admitting functions that are constant except on finitely many inputs. < 1482202877 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x) = 2x? Nope, infinite image. < 1482202880 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x) = x? Nope. < 1482202954 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fifteen. < 1482202973 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x) = 15? Yep, that's permitted. < 1482203001 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett_: This reminds me of something I think about every once in a while: Finite-domain functions. Is there some branch of math dedicated to them? < 1482203050 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hmm, dunno. < 1482203067 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In general playing with domain and codomain is interesting < 1482203154 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, we all know what a primitive-recursive function is. < 1482203163 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a function defined by such-and-such blah blah blah rules. < 1482203203 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¦ is an operation f ¦ S (function f, set S) which yields a function f' < 1482203242 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's some "well-known" concept of a "primitive-recursive proof of equality of two primitive-recursive functions". < 1482203265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f' is defined for all values which are in dom(f) ∩ S as the same as f; f' is undefined for any values not in dom(f) ∩ S < 1482203286 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why restrict it to finite domains? < 1482203295 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://plus.google.com/117663015413546257905/posts/X11re8mVHBR < 1482203345 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That one isn't restricted to finite domains < 1482203405 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Looks like bullshit < 1482203640 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1482203826 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNEEEEEEEEEEEER! :D :D :D < 1482203853 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! < 1482204134 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Al runer, woho? < 1482204143 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, let's see. < 1482204146 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aal ruuneer, woohoo? < 1482204152 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's probably it. < 1482204241 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All. can't type. < 1482204260 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing crawl. won. fifteen. < 1482204269 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION 's brains are on the fritz < 1482204390 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yul Brynner. < 1482204512 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :morgue now online → http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/pfcuttle/morgue-pfcuttle-20161220-031651.txt < 1482204978 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found that the source code for ImageMagick does actually include a coder for sixel graphics, although it seem not compiled in, and is not listed on the webpage or on the "convert -list format". Sixel format is also one of the format I intend to support in Farbfeld Utilities. You can also contribute formats and/or effects if you want to do so. < 1482204999 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(either suggestions or codes (or both) can be contributed, according to your choice) < 1482205013 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you may also contribute examples/documentation if you want to) < 1482205332 0 :woozygoose!?@? NICK :boozymoose < 1482206733 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1482207366 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 QUIT :Quit: JUMPING CHICKEN < 1482207741 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? curring < 1482207744 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? currying < 1482207759 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :currying? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1482207759 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :curring? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1482207828 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn currying//Functions are curried by taking curry(f) < 1482207836 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'currying': Functions are curried by taking curry(f) < 1482207841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joke would work better if it required multiple arguments...) < 1482207884 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd currying//s/$/./ < 1482207890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :currying//Functions are curried by taking curry(f). < 1482208237 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(15? that's too many runes!) < 1482208415 0 :function!~root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1482209232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ͜ < 1482209246 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Smurf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50544&oldid=36127 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+136) 10 < 1482209247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+035C COMBINING DOUBLE BREVE BELOW] < 1482210009 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Sclipting14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50545&oldid=44707 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+371) 10 < 1482210603 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.224 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1482210612 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :soooooooooo < 1482210623 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long does it take to learn how to solder? < 1482210653 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a company that's hiring and on that page they mention that people must "Be OK wielding the occasional soldering iron." < 1482210666 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :among a bunch of other stuff < 1482210682 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-158.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get a soldering iron, a PCB you don't mind fucking up, and an afternoon. < 1482210727 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-158.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You won't be doing SMD stuff after that, but you'll be alright after a couple hours practicing. < 1482210824 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1482211413 0 :function!~root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: found 1 in /dev/zero < 1482211585 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1482212980 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a plasma drawing program that work similar to the one in ImageMagick, although my program is much shorter and also a bit more versatile. < 1482213031 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The part of the program of ImageMagick to implement such thing is approx 4 times bigger than mine, to my estimation.) < 1482213060 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482213118 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482213209 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1482214435 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482216064 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.224 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1482216948 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1482217308 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1482217557 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1482219385 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1482219393 0 :hydraz!matheus@heddw.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1482219394 0 :hydraz!matheus@heddw.ch QUIT :Changing host < 1482219394 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz JOIN :#esoteric < 1482219414 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1482221343 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1482221988 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bImJMH9FXPA < 1482222458 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1482222480 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482223141 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482224757 0 :benderB747!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:46a:5482:2913:3313 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1482226657 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1482226856 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jouluspämmi < 1482226962 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1482227117 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ei vielä ole joulu. < 1482227160 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spammers seem not to have noticed. < 1482227378 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I get most of my non-English spam in Swedish. < 1482227416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i got a norwegian one as well < 1482227451 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm not entirely sure it wasn't english) < 1482227451 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hej! Vi söker personal för distansarbete." < 1482227480 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the work involve sending email to people < 1482227524 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't actually say. They just say it's for "ett stort, internationellt företag", and that it pays 3000-6000 EUR/month, but not at all what the company does or I would do. < 1482227568 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok i'm sure they'll tell you for a small fee < 1482227679 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have to write spambots < 1482227697 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The message body is always the same, except that the name of the sender is random (I've got "Harriett", "Crystal", "Meghan", "Avis" and "Archie") and the subject line alternates between "deltidstjänst", "Samarbete med stor firma" and "Det underbara arbetet i kris!". < 1482227708 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Those names sound a little non-Swedish.) < 1482227718 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482227746 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.224 QUIT :Client Quit < 1482227748 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. i could imagine a swede named Crystal. < 1482228486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar PAMR < 1482228487 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :PAMR 200953Z 00000KT 1/4SM FZFG VV003 M08/M09 A2898 RMK AO2 SLP815 I1000 T10781094 $ < 1482228495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1482228495 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 200950Z 11008KT CAVOK 01/00 Q1015 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 15012KT < 1482228519 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: _two_ slashes? what is this heresy < 1482228622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Where? < 1482228643 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands hppavilion[1] some glasses < 1482228663 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I genuinely can't see anything... < 1482228677 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a migraine earlier today; maybe it's coming back < 1482228679 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/4SM and M08/M09 hth < 1482228682 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1482228690 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1482228691 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 200950Z 11008KT CAVOK 05/03 Q1022 < 1482228694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw that, but I figured you meant either consecutive or grouped slashes < 1482228706 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so either a/b/c or a // somewhere) < 1482230981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1482231113 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf hilsner <-- did you know that's a common misspelling of the norwegian word for "greetings" hth < 1482231113 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1482232962 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1482232963 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 201050Z 26013KT 220V280 9999 FEW080 04/M05 Q1023 WS R26 NOSIG < 1482232972 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :warm? very dry. < 1482232993 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 50%, apparently < 1482233666 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i bypass mod_security? < 1482233832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1482233857 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :several sites are rejecting my bot that posts the title of a page and posts it on irc < 1482233867 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :with user agent Mozilla/4.0 < 1482234105 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :same for Mozilla/5.0 < 1482235009 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. in an apache configuration context, "SecRuleEngine Off"? < 1482235506 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: anyway, perhaps the user-agent isn't real enough. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0 < 1482235520 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they usually come with a ton of additional information < 1482235538 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :other ideas include cookies; I imagine one could even look at the Accept-* headers. < 1482235603 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i tried exactly that a few minutes ago < 1482235609 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i still get rejected < 1482235622 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your IP got flagged < 1482235631 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1482235635 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :tried from multiple ips < 1482235645 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually have no clue what mod_security really does. < 1482235887 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you considered not posting titles of pages? < 1482235942 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered minding your own business? < 1482235949 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once or twice. < 1482235959 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind posting titles, but I don't think I'd go out of my way to try to circumvent things like that honestly < 1482235966 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe spoofing user-agent since that is common enough < 1482235973 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not posting them in this channel < 1482235977 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck you want < 1482235979 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1482236028 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was what's called an opinion. < 1482236059 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :unasked for < 1482236171 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the beauty of IRC, you don't even have to ask. < 1482236185 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about capturing a request from a real browser and replaying it as-is? < 1482236493 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1482236586 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah JOIN :#esoteric < 1482237179 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:98db:2cc5:d72f:aadb JOIN :#esoteric < 1482237206 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :curl -A "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0" -H "Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8" < 1482237209 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems to work < 1482237355 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1482237450 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah JOIN :#esoteric < 1482237946 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1482238208 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:98db:2cc5:d72f:aadb QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1482239185 0 :benderB747!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:98dd:9edf:483f:3301 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482242142 0 :tswett_!~tswett@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1482243222 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482243558 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:98dd:9edf:483f:3301 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482243620 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:98dd:9edf:483f:3301 QUIT :Client Quit < 1482245957 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1482246638 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1482246686 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1482248004 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1482248022 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1482248027 0 :Zarutian_!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1482248516 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1482248537 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternoon//Fternoon is the time of day when the Danes usually eat their fternooners. < 1482248566 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@2a02:a448:4a62:1:f535:5dd3:c878:537f JOIN :#esoteric < 1482248657 0 :benderB747!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:98dd:9edf:483f:3301 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1482249053 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1482250340 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1482251384 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1482251464 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1482251683 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1482252333 0 :Zarutian_!?@? NICK :Zarutian < 1482256524 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, another blody test failure < 1482257062 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\. what fails? < 1482257367 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the continuous testing failed and my commit was reverted < 1482257442 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I have to figure out what went wrong, fix it, run the pre-checkin tests for 4 hours, and then commit and hope that during that 4 hours noone comitted anything that conflicts < 1482257460 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :four hours??? < 1482257467 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1482257479 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they take 4 hours < 1482257492 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swears in French < 1482257501 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fscking stupid. < 1482257538 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most of that is compiling < 1482257578 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which for some reason is always compiling the same code over and over because of templates < 1482257592 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid c++ templates. not even once. < 1482257638 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of an univeristy shared shell host policy "No long running processes! They will be killed and the infraction noted". So many CompSci students in tears because their compilations were killed. < 1482257707 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wouldn't an interactive bash shell or editor be long-running? < 1482257707 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it only count cpu time < 1482257785 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ templates really invalidate the whole separate compilation idea < 1482257820 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be faster to concatenate all the files in the whole project and comoile that < 1482257828 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpu time was first measure (to factilate load shedding and keep the host responsive) then if a process had been resident for more than four hours in memory it got more agressively swapped out. < 1482257854 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: that is what c++ templates compilation DOES, iirc < 1482257930 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we don't... we have thousands of .o files containing identical instantiations of templates and then we link them and somehow the linker knows to throw away all but one. or maybe it doesn't. i dunno < 1482258034 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words we're using separate compilation, but compiling everything all in one go would almost certainly be faster. < 1482258050 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of all the wasted work < 1482258429 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :re that university policy: the fun thing was that anyone could invoke hogkick command that looked at the longest running or most consumptive process, if went over a certain precentage killed that and kicked the user that instanciated it off the system with a stern message on not hogging shell host resources. < 1482258605 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 QUIT :Quit: CONFIGURED CHICKEN < 1482259444 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? template < 1482259447 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :template? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1482259456 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? c++ < 1482259461 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with C, C++ is a language for smart people. < 1482259470 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? c# < 1482259472 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C Pound is Java's good twin. < 1482259528 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? forth < 1482259529 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication. < 1482259612 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1482259614 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1482259666 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode °​ < 1482259674 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN \ UTF-8: c2 b0 UTF-16BE: 00b0 Decimal: ° \ ° \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ET (European Number Terminator) \ \ U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE \ UTF-8: e2 80 8b UTF-16BE: 200b Decimal: ​ \ ​ \ Category: Cf (Other, Format) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) < 1482259697 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ​ < 1482259700 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE \ UTF-8: e2 80 8b UTF-16BE: 200b Decimal: ​ \ ​ \ Category: Cf (Other, Format) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) < 1482259723 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION grumbles about it not looking zero width to him. < 1482260132 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`c printf("\x40\xe2\x80\x8b\x40"); < 1482260134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: c: not found < 1482260143 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc printf("\x40\xe2\x80\x8b\x40"); < 1482260149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:1:1: error: missing terminating " character \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1482260167 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc 'printf("\x40\xe2\x80\x8b\x40");' < 1482260170 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:1:1: error: missing terminating ' character \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1482260207 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cc printf("\x40\xe2\x80\x8b\x40"); < 1482260210 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: `cc printf("\x40\xe2\x80\x8b\x40");' < 1482260245 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e '\x40\xe2\x80\x8b\x40' < 1482260246 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@​@ < 1482260351 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://snag.gy/0ObAYc.jpg < 1482260367 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid mac terminal < 1482260426 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew. An image sharing website which requires JS to view images < 1482261291 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh apparently iterm2 dispalys it properly < 1482261344 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The image sharing service should not even require HTML; just JPEG or PNG < 1482261398 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.snag.gy/0ObAYc.jpg < 1482261500 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that works fine ImageMagick will display it < 1482262536 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: *nods* < 1482262560 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-uqaoljewbrwutrkv QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1482262643 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-erceemgfgfvunvyn JOIN :#esoteric < 1482263194 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1482263866 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2IbobdwL3w < 1482264453 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1482264873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1482265573 0 :NumberStation08!~root@fedora/rodrigodearaujo JOIN :#esoteric < 1482265591 0 :NumberStation08!~root@fedora/rodrigodearaujo PART #esoteric : < 1482265910 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482266027 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@2a02:a448:4a62:1:f535:5dd3:c878:537f QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1482267077 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1482267113 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1482267292 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Underload14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50546&oldid=49042 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+457) 10 < 1482267444 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1482268325 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1482268763 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1482269157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-scow < 1482269157 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1482269256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow < 1482269259 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1482269259 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 10h 35m 46s ago: hilsner <-- did you know that's a common misspelling of the norwegian word for "greetings" hth < 1482269277 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: idnk hth < 1482269669 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1482270050 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1482270193 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poochello. < 1482270304 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1482271439 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1482271690 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-rohghwszpobbzeig QUIT :Excess Flood < 1482271699 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-wmzghxotospqfave JOIN :#esoteric < 1482272197 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1482272414 0 :moonheart08!?@? NICK :oYo-sclone < 1482272421 0 :oYo-sclone!?@? NICK :moonheart08 < 1482273252 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ham... < 1482273296 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to express all positive algebraic as a unique product of primes, each raised to a rational power? < 1482273559 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do it with sqrt(2)+sqrt(3)? < 1482273652 0 :pelegreno___!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1482273727 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482274228 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I asked on ##math and apparently not < 1482274514 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482274885 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1482274981 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482274997 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1482275026 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482275028 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1482275124 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1482275222 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... what if you ranked all algebraic numbers by how simple it is to express them in reverse polish notation with the symbols 1-+*/^ < 1482275314 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you count -1? < 1482275331 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: '11-1-'? < 1482275347 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps just '1-' < 1482275359 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way 0 can be '' < 1482275371 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that polish and not reverse polish? < 1482275377 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be wrong on this < 1482275400 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wrong on this < 1482275402 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think polish notation is where you treat everyhting as a function < 1482275415 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :if 0 was just '' I think we'd run into the same problems polish/reverse polish were trying to fix... < 1482275450 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :polish is prefix and reverse polish is postfix, yeah < 1482275464 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :4:'11+11++' 6:'111++11+*' < 1482275482 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick a name for this thing < 1482275485 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :<\oren\> or perhaps just '1-' ← the befunge approach, I like it < 1482275502 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type dc < 1482275515 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc is /usr/bin/dc < 1482275519 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love abusing the zero-on-stack-underflow behaviour in codegolf < 1482275540 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll call it "unary rpn numerals" < 1482275573 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.5 : '111+/' < 1482275639 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and basically, a number's unary rpn rank is the number of symbols in the minimum string that places that nubmer on top of the stack < 1482275857 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'sed "s/./& /g;s/.*/20k&p/" <<< "$*" | dc' > bin/unaryrpn; chmod +x bin/unaryrpm; unaryrpm 111+/ < 1482275863 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: cannot access `bin/unaryrpm': No such file or directory \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: unaryrpm: command not found < 1482275878 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'sed "s/./& /g;s/.*/20k&p/" <<< "$*" | dc' > bin/unaryrpn; chmod +x bin/unaryrpn; unaryrpn 111+/ < 1482275885 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.50000000000000000000 < 1482275904 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :horay < 1482275926 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unaryrpn 111++11+/ < 1482275928 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.50000000000000000000 < 1482275959 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unaryrpn 111++11+/ < 1482275960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.50000000000000000000 < 1482276058 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unaryrpn 11111+++/ < 1482276059 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.25000000000000000000 < 1482276091 0 :emg!~emg@74-123-189-254.static.wiline.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1482276104 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh you implemented it < 1482276119 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what will 111-/ equal in your specification? < 1482276165 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unaryrpn 111-/ < 1482276167 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc: divide by zero \ 0 < 1482276175 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unaryrpn 1- < 1482276176 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc: stack empty \ 1 < 1482276186 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1482276203 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what befunge-98 impls do we have? < 1482276206 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i guess in this implementation 11- is needed for 0 < 1482276208 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I guess unefunge < 1482276210 0 :phy1729!~phy1729@zsh/wizard/phy1729 JOIN :#esoteric < 1482276215 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'sed "s/./ &/g;s/.*/20k0&p/" <<< "$*" | dc' > bin/unaryrpn; unaryrpn 1- < 1482276219 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-1 < 1482276231 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed it < 1482276243 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cfunge 1. < 1482276244 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cfunge: not found < 1482276248 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1482276252 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls **/*fung* < 1482276255 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unaryrpn 11-+ < 1482276266 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ibin/befunge \ ibin/befunge98 \ interps/cfunge/build/cfunge \ interps/cfunge/build/CMakeFiles/cfunge.dir/lib/libghthash/cfunge_mempool.c.o \ interps/cfunge/build/CMakeFiles/cfunge.dir/src/funge-space/funge-space.c.o \ interps/cfunge/cfunge \ interps/cfunge/cfunge-src/cmake/modules/CfungeCheckCflag.cmake \ interps/cfunge/cfunge-src/cmake/modules/Cfu < 1482276266 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1482276277 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! befunge98 1. < 1482276289 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, 11-+ worked? < 1482276309 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 < 1482276315 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right whoops < 1482276326 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! befunge 1- .@ < 1482276329 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-1 < 1482276338 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! befunge 111++11+/ .@ < 1482276339 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1482276347 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, only integers though < 1482276402 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1482276929 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1482276978 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need inspiration < 1482277133 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inspiration of what? < 1482277143 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk... < 1482277160 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :help me import inspiration; < 1482277394 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1482277434 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1482277491 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine a fuzzy 50% value - and two variables, x and y, which have this value... now, x & !x should be intuitively 0, but x & y isn't necessarily 0 < 1482277556 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1482277569 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :heya hppa... long time no see... I am exhausted < 1482277681 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just brought up the topic of fuzzy logic... < 1482278254 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellooo? < 1482278353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds