< 1484524831 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell from the sources, there's a special hidden "spam" field it checks (for spammers that auto-fill all fields), but I doubt you're hitting that. < 1484524845 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's a "matchSummarySpamRegex" check. < 1484524873 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and "matchSpamRegex" as well. < 1484524992 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the default settings for wg(Summary)?SpamRegex is an empty array, and we don't set that in our local configuration, so it's not that. < 1484525030 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But sure, send me the text. Email if it's long. < 1484525052 0 :kiki`!uid170954@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gelvyikouynnlico JOIN :#esoteric < 1484525088 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ConfirmEdit has a "blacklist" file of naughty words, but I believe that's only meant to apply for skipping CAPTCHA questions where the answers would be bad.) < 1484525134 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty short < 1484525189 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :SpamBlacklist does sound like the most likely culprit (it would use that error message, and it's meant for blocking links to "bad" hosts), but that shouldn't be on. < 1484525223 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :As of January 2016, the pages associated with the contest have been taken down from the website without explanation and without any winners being announced. It is unclear why the organizers never selected a winner or whether another iteration of the contest will be attempted. < 1484525319 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't even log in now? < 1484525366 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a very good MediaWiki admin. I don't know if it has any useful logs anywhere. < 1484525378 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The web server error log doesn't look particularly informative, at least. < 1484525528 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things seem to work for me. How did it behave when you were logging in? < 1484525538 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've turned off adblock on the wiki domain. why can't i log in? < 1484525553 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could add the above text to the calesyta 2016 page for me < 1484525562 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can try, I guess. < 1484525606 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, has anyone emailed CALESYTA to ask what's going on? < 1484525619 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484525653 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CALESYTA14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50737&oldid=50324 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+245) 10/* 2016 CE */ A non-update update on behalf of quintopia. < 1484525666 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankee < 1484525670 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No spam filter complaints. I don't know what was going on. < 1484525938 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1484525971 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna see if making a new account lets me log in. < 1484526021 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`commands < 1484526054 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: commands: not found < 1484526158 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the answer to the befunge captcha? the question doesn't display correctly < 1484526254 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. It used to work. < 1484526267 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, there is no "the answer", it's a dynamic CAPTCHA. < 1484526292 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, the tags show up as text. < 1484526311 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, my first Monday comic this weeks disappointed. (Sandra and Woo) < 1484526318 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/weeks/week/ < 1484526353 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has this: 9054872212>\#+:#*9-#\_$.@ < 1484526355 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The part between the tags should be a valid Befunge oneliner. But you can also just omit the '9', reverse the rest of the digits, and convert from base-9 to decimal. < 1484526361 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there may be a line break before the last # < 1484526388 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's likely 92109519 then. < 1484526401 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03DavidRutter 5* 10New user account < 1484526435 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I was told about the problem, but forgot. < 1484526450 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so the account creation works, but i'm still not logged in. < 1484526459 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously i'm having caching issues < 1484526575 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely recall I've had some issues as to staying logged in, especially when mixing http://, https:// and www.esolangs.org and esolangs.org. < 1484526593 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/ is the canonically correct name. < 1484526800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1484526869 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-foul < 1484526869 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 11h 40m ago: that's a shame < 1484526869 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 11h 39m 37s ago: (but also true) < 1484526880 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a true shame, got it < 1484527018 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i was using the canonical one < 1484527215 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484528837 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unidecode λ < 1484528837 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1484528840 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode λ < 1484528843 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+03BB GREEK SMALL LETTER LAMDA] < 1484528866 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just found a remark on wikipedia about this, 'Unicode uses the spelling "lamda" in character names, instead of "lambda", due to " preferences expressed by the Greek National Body".' < 1484528901 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's why LATIN SMALL LETTER LAMBDA WITH STROKE is spelled thus. < 1484528933 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :clerical error? < 1484529099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's not Greek. < 1484529437 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmpf. That almost makes sense. < 1484529602 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1484530492 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the wire-crossing problem has effects on social graphs < 1484530568 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, if your social graph can be written (or can't be written) without crossing wires, are there any interesting properties of that graph? < 1484530592 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: a social graph that doesn't contain K5 is /really/ dysfunctional < 1484530602 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: K5? < 1484530625 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: the smallest possible nonplanar graph < 1484530639 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all nonplanar graphs have either K5 or K3,3 as a subgraph (many have both) < 1484530640 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ah. How so? < 1484530640 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: that's just a clique of size 5 < 1484530652 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a K5 subgraph) < 1484530661 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh..? < 1484530666 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, 5 people who are all friends of each other < 1484530679 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xfyracqzoznqdwot PRIVMSG #esoteric :5? Some people have an entire 5 friends!? < 1484530680 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, I'm really curious as to what sort of social graph would contain K3,3 but /not/ K5… < 1484530688 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: you only need 4 < 1484530701 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xfyracqzoznqdwot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people have an entire 4 friends!? < 1484530702 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ah, K_5 is the complete graph of 5 points. < 1484530708 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: embedding, not subgraph? < 1484530749 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh, right < 1484530757 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to be able to shrink vertices as well as edges < 1484530765 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for that theorem to hold < 1484530774 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION understands now < 1484530784 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That is an interesting question... < 1484530903 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is K_5 less one planar? < 1484530933 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(complete graph of 4, one additional connected to 3 of the 4) < 1484530938 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah, definitely < 1484530944 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disregard. < 1484530947 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: that's called K_5-, and yes, it is; create a triangle, place an extra point inside and an extra point outside < 1484530959 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, I figured it yout < 1484530964 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*out < 1484531004 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'd seen https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/CGK4PLN.svg and I realized I could place a point near the bottom left or right and connect it to the outer vertices but not the middle point < 1484531049 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh, or I could place it in the middle of the triangle formed by the bottom two and the central point and connect it to those 3 (a K_4 within a K_4, if you will) < 1484531057 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, indeed, any of the 3 triangles formed < 1484531073 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the central point and two of the outer vertices, that is < 1484531080 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[I wish this graph were labeled] < 1484531126 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484531163 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, planarity was a fun (ymmv) game... I wonder whether it's still around. < 1484531298 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-luueseegujbszntp QUIT :Excess Flood < 1484531469 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kgwejewphjktukfl JOIN :#esoteric < 1484531546 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Actually, I don't know if I meet K_5 < 1484531553 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Except on IRC < 1484531701 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484531708 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages < 1484531745 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1484531754 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :come in the voice chAT < 1484531846 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came in the chat. < 1484531852 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't tonight, stomach on strike... < 1484531866 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :going back to bed and/or porcelain... < 1484531881 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1484532286 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, does imgur not support svg? < 1484532291 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Oh, is there voice chat? < 1484532305 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? voice chat < 1484532308 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :voice chat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1484532310 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? voice chAT < 1484532311 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :voice chAT? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1484532311 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? voice ch@ < 1484532313 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :voice ch@? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1484532324 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other news, HackEgfast < 1484532728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: tatham's puzzles has "untangle", which is really about planarity hth < 1484532926 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e tatham's puzzles has "untangle", which is really about planarity hth < 1484532927 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1484533116 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1484533340 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the description links to planarity, with a link to a website that still works (and now has a javascript version of the game... though it's missing some nice interludes that the original had) < 1484533386 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1484533405 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1484533565 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe the interludes were part of a gtk adaptation that I played? I forgot. < 1484533658 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found that the quit command in my SDL-based program will not respond slowly if audio is not initialized. < 1484533887 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, pretty sure that's it (the adaptation is called "gplanarity") and has a few tweaks (for example, levels with non-planar graphs where you need to minimize the number of crossings instead) < 1484534014 0 :|-BRVXA-|!?@? NICK :sirnaysayer < 1484534033 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1484534367 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484534456 0 :hppavilion2!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484534646 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1484534757 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1484534915 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1484535022 0 :hppavilion2!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1484535346 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1484535526 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484537473 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484539534 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484539799 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1484539841 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1484540581 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484540616 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1484541182 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484542114 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1484542850 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484543280 0 :evillyon!5bc768f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.199.104.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1484543296 0 :evillyon!5bc768f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.199.104.244 QUIT :Client Quit < 1484544356 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1484545524 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1484553150 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1484554201 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484554407 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can Wii remote be use with SDL? < 1484554518 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1484557600 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:21d4:7921:c7b1:1005 JOIN :#esoteric < 1484557776 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1484558379 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1484559630 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1484560430 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-efgrgemkeiprjtil QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1484560556 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1484560604 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ctxdqanocxyuihmu JOIN :#esoteric < 1484562440 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :This includes the old assignment: Write a sort that correctly sorts its input when a constant number of comparisons will fail http://stackoverflow.com/a/36828960/2815203 < 1484562447 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ how do you do this? < 1484562947 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :a trivial and terribly inefficient way would be to sort it normally, then check if the list is sorted at least n times, where n is the number of comparison failures < 1484564022 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1484564613 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a million integers and 3 comparison can fail, do you need 3 million comparisons? < 1484564702 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that for 2 elements, if 3 comparisons may fail, you actually need 7 comparisons to be sure... but I would be hoping for an O(log n) overhead (if the number of failing comparisons is fixed) < 1484564755 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, interesting problem, and I have no time for it right now... < 1484565045 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually my hope seems to be unjustified... < 1484565146 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To tell the difference between a < b < c < d and a < c < b < d, you have to establish the comparison between b and c beyond any doubt... so you need to compare b and c four times to make certain that the comparison wasn't lying about the relationship between b and c.) < 1484565560 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nut in any case, sorting parsimoniously and then checking (using bubble sort to correct the lies) should be efficient, taking about 4n (plus a few) extra comparisons. < 1484566386 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1484567299 0 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1484567301 0 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me QUIT :Changing host < 1484567301 0 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1484567767 0 :kiki`!uid170954@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gelvyikouynnlico QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1484568409 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc104862-sgyl39-2-0-cust65.18-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484568409 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc104862-sgyl39-2-0-cust65.18-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1484568409 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1484570567 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer below that one is appropriately redundant, with recommendations for using CRC checksums on RAM memory < 1484574431 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:21d4:7921:c7b1:1005 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1484574542 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kgwejewphjktukfl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1484574699 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bzvfycfamxvkampp JOIN :#esoteric < 1484575139 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1484575488 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1484575669 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484575949 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1484576051 0 :spiette!~spiette@216.98.60.148 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1484578648 0 :bigcake!~bigcake@unaffiliated/bigcake JOIN :#esoteric < 1484581174 0 :spiette!~spiette@216.98.60.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1484582289 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1484582399 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1484582456 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1484583218 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maths lecturer quote: "[in this course] rings are always commutative, except for when they are not" < 1484583239 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1484583488 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shit < 1484583510 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1484583683 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1484583713 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1484584717 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a582:d673:25e:5cbc JOIN :#esoteric < 1484584740 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good to know, or perhaps not. < 1484584755 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there a cute name for a non comutatvie ring? < 1484584775 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: are you thinking of "rng" for rings without 1? < 1484584797 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right that was the one that didn't have a cute name < 1484584815 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if it's really about commutativity I don't know the answer) < 1484584827 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's rig and rng < 1484584861 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then there's just "non commutative ring" < 1484584901 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :カワイクナイ < 1484584977 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a582:d673:25e:5cbc QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1484585036 0 :bigcake!~bigcake@unaffiliated/bigcake QUIT :Quit: bigcake < 1484585315 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I wonder what sort of algebraic structures you could make with functions (x,y) -> (z,w) with the requirement that they are all invertible? < 1484585329 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20170106 http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20170116 ... am I the only one who's expecting that "Queen of the Dawn" to stab Martellus any moment now? < 1484585329 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1484585399 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50738&oldid=50718 5* 03Raddish0 5* (+128) 10 < 1484585473 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Raddish014]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50739 5* 03Raddish0 5* (+83) 10Created page with "Hey, I'm raddish0. I'm a 13yr old Who is interested in good, esoteric codegolfing." < 1484585473 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is to say what is the algebra for reversible computing? < 1484585486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MMP14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50740 5* 03Raddish0 5* (+1121) 10Created page with "MMP - MicroMathProcessor This language is build to do math. I suppose that a 'MMP+' could include text output, but currently all I/O is integer because I want all programs t..." < 1484585644 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this one isn't quite a brainfuck equivalent < 1484585706 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it has gotos < 1484585726 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pointers < 1484585933 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1484586517 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c83-253-244-64.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1484586517 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c83-253-244-64.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Changing host < 1484586517 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1484586696 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1484587873 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1484588003 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1484588557 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1484589112 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yesterday I got this idea of taking a photo of some small thing on top of a phone, with the phone's screen showing a photo in a suitably perspective-corrected way (w.r.t. where the camera is) so that the thing on top would kinda-sorta look to be part of the photo. < 1484589118 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't really turn out as exciting-looking as I hoped, but at least I tried. < 1484590125 0 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1484590458 0 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1484590675 0 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that sounds neat! < 1484590758 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there were some depth-of-field issues. I tried to do focus stacking with enfuse, but the phone's screen's pixel grid got pretty messed-up anyway. < 1484590764 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.flickr.com/photos/fizzief/31485162894/ < 1484590846 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's not focus stacked at all, I just picked one arbitrary shot.) < 1484591755 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484591801 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1484592352 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1484595891 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone on here has mentioned before that my SDL binding for JavaScript is a bit problem because it support only SDL1 and not SDL2. In order to allow the implementation also to be written that would support SDL2, I have added a few functions that do nothing on SDL1, which are SDL.prototype.setMapping() and Surface.prototype.seal(). If you work with SDL2 you can also suggest others. < 1484596157 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did have idea of a few other functions to implement, which would be implemented on SDL1, although an implementation that uses SDL2 may be able to implement them more efficiently by use of OpenGL or something else perhaps. They are: SDL.prototype.createDisplay() SDL.prototype.display() Surface.prototype.createBob() < 1484596345 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : memory_error: < 1484596348 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : /* We're in trouble since we can't free the already allocated memory. [allocated from strdup(filame)] < 1484596350 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : * Well, after all, when malloc returns NULL we're already in a bad mood, and no doubt the < 1484596352 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : * program will manage to segfault by itself very soon :-). */ < 1484596370 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What program is that from? < 1484596428 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/ensc/dietlibc/blob/master/libshell/glob.c#L132-L135 < 1484596716 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any test cases for implementing X resource manager? < 1484597546 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484597623 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1484598660 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1484599175 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484599238 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1484599252 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1484599255 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1484601239 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1484602395 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bzvfycfamxvkampp QUIT :Excess Flood < 1484602417 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1484602599 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cjnjsdoqujadguft JOIN :#esoteric < 1484603579 0 :mayela29!~mayela@186-88-89-20.genericrev.cantv.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484603599 0 :mayela29!~mayela@186-88-89-20.genericrev.cantv.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1484603636 0 :mayela29!~mayela@186-88-89-20.genericrev.cantv.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484603945 0 :mayela29!~mayela@186-88-89-20.genericrev.cantv.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1484603982 0 :mayela29!~mayela@186-88-89-20.genericrev.cantv.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484604263 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-004-076-070.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1484604297 0 :mayela29!~mayela@186-88-89-20.genericrev.cantv.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿? < 1484604325 0 :mayela29!~mayela@186-88-89-20.genericrev.cantv.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1484604378 0 :mayela29!~mayela@186-88-89-20.genericrev.cantv.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484604418 0 :kiki`!uid170954@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tfihztgvevbbkmpk JOIN :#esoteric < 1484604455 0 :mayela29!~mayela@186-88-89-20.genericrev.cantv.net PART #esoteric : < 1484605186 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484606330 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1484606419 0 :relrod_!?@? NICK :relrod < 1484608451 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1484608968 0 :gsora_!?@? NICK :gsora < 1484609184 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1484609196 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1484610678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Dpleshkov 5* 10New user account