< 1485388862 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :question about (<*) and (*>): why are both arguments evaluated, if one of them gets discarded? < 1485389176 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean why both are executed? < 1485389186 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is that that's the purpose of those functions. < 1485389303 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it works, I can use them, but the way it works confuses me. < 1485389409 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'm misunderstanding laziness. if I'm fmapping "const" or "const id" into (<*>), shouldn't I be able to just plain ignore one of the arguments and just evaluate the other? < 1485389446 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You keep using the word "evaluate". < 1485389458 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't think you're talking about evaluation. < 1485389499 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a better term to say "extract the value from this function application"? < 1485389530 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extract what from what? < 1485389709 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if "f (<*) g = const <$> f <*> g", then shouldn't the "const" disregard what's inside the g? < 1485389776 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from there (and I guess where I'm completely wrong), my intuition is that the whole g is useless, so nothing should happen with it, so the whole thing could be reduced to only f. < 1485389991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is nothing inside g, probably. < 1485390012 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1485390019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :These things don't contain things (in general). < 1485390040 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are f and g functions here? < 1485390182 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything. < 1485390291 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jzskfdijzjrasdkq QUIT :Excess Flood < 1485390329 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kulabuyyklgwzoku JOIN :#esoteric < 1485390420 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :another way: "getLine <* getLine" should only get a single line, as the second one isn't needed to manipulate the "IO String" you type. < 1485391100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1485391257 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : lament? <-- yep! doesn't come around much these days though. < 1485391266 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(evenily) < 1485391289 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsøirjan. < 1485391810 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1485393430 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485393517 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485393911 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485394101 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1485394106 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sense//Sense is the ability to understand things. A person with much sense is called a sensei. < 1485394156 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Why should it only get a single line? < 1485394192 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485394348 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I write "a <- getLine <* getLine", then "a" only depends on what happens with the first getLine. the second one could be dropped, and nothing would change. < 1485394435 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you write do { a <- getLine; _ <- getLine; ... }? < 1485394454 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the problem is the same as what I said above: You're confusing evaluation and execution. < 1485394535 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is suddenly enlightened < 1485394569 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure hth < 1485394590 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, only by an incandescent bulb, but I *think* I'm getting there. < 1485394610 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1485394623 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION enlightens boily further with a match < 1485394712 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a good place to read about this sort of thing < 1485394719 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote e.g. http://stackoverflow.com/a/13538351 but it's not ideal < 1485394729 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: <* means "execute both for their side effects; keep only the first return value" < 1485394763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1,2,3] <* [4,5] < 1485394765 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,2,2,3,3] < 1485394959 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, it means that, it works, but it's the *why* that I fail to grasp. < 1485394969 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is still perusing the shachanwer... < 1485395000 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/w/sw/ < 1485395656 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1, 2, 3] <* [4, 5] = const <$> [1, 2, 3] <*> [4, 5] < 1485395658 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : [const 1, const 2, const 3] <*> [4, 5] < 1485395660 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : [f x | f <- [const 1, const 2, const 3], x <- [4, 5]] < 1485395662 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3] < 1485395949 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be able to get from a form that has (<*>) to one that hasn't it, I have to "do something" with the second argument before being able to apply the "const" and get to the end result. < 1485396000 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses oerjan's match to keep warm < 1485396177 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that "do something" depends on the instance of (<*>), but there will always be a something to be done. plugging in a const has no consequence whatsoever that that thing be done or not. < 1485396199 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels like he's getting non-homeopathically closer < 1485396247 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laziness is just irrelevant here. < 1485396303 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :point. < 1485396392 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks shachaf < 1485396394 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, shachaf. Thachaf. < 1485396414 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can I keep the match? it has fire, and fire is good. < 1485396920 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1485397051 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YÉ < 1485397214 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION accidentally marks a wiktionary edit as minor instead of adding it to his watchlist. this is what happens when you're not careful enough and cannot actually read the button descriptions. < 1485397976 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night all! < 1485397983 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1485397995 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SUBSCRIBED CHICKEN < 1485398196 0 :hppavilion2!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1485398713 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://climatetorrent.com/ can you kindly torrent (and possibly seed these)? Before it goes in the 'memory hole'. < 1485400449 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1485402355 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:6112:f304:f556:c4e2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485404260 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485404626 0 :hppavilion2!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485407914 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid QUIT :Quit: Iovoid has quit! < 1485407930 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1485408339 0 :hppavilion2!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There seem to be analogues of Newton's laws for both Linear (translational) systems and Angular (rotational) systems. While I'm not sure it can happen in this universe, are there (somehow) analogues for translation? Somehow? < 1485408345 0 :hppavilion2!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm really not sure if I know what I'm talking about < 1485408700 0 :hppavilion2!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, non-continuous so it doesn't make sense < 1485409070 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:6112:f304:f556:c4e2 QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1485409506 0 :hppavilion2!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1485410404 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485412052 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1485412278 0 :kiki`!uid170954@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jkojvhpgslkrovfc QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1485412343 0 :sparr!~sparr@2604:a880:800:10::103:f001 QUIT :Changing host < 1485412343 0 :sparr!~sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr JOIN :#esoteric < 1485414826 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-otluqkwqaebswdie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Some more ways to acquire the climate data that's in climatetorrent.com: https://climate.daknob.net/ < 1485415548 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-40-190.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1485415650 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-40-190.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485419866 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:8508:3021:eaa1:804d JOIN :#esoteric < 1485422231 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1485422293 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485423288 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:f96f:2be4:dd3d:2fd6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485424464 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:8508:3021:eaa1:804d QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1485424612 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:fd09:2f81:2b88:acfc JOIN :#esoteric < 1485425163 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1485425574 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1485425771 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1485426558 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finally blocks redditmedia.com < 1485426571 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or disables it from running scripts) < 1485426621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my tabs were getting an endless series of certificate errors. < 1485426691 0 :xfix!~konrad@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1485426768 0 :xfix!~konrad@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1485429031 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:f96f:2be4:dd3d:2fd6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485429118 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485429269 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like fun! < 1485429343 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you see the "unplagued" pun? I expected a swatting... :P < 1485429473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, what's the pun in that < 1485429664 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you thinking "unplugged" or something < 1485429710 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :meantime, colette is no longer unplugged. < 1485429740 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if beausoleil will show up inside that thing < 1485429751 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*meanwhile < 1485429915 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? maintenance < 1485429931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maintenance? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1485430088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1485430511 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485431508 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: btw I gave up on the CaC ticket and instead deleted and recreated the VM two times (the first time routing still didn't work... they've messed something up pretty badly in their routing it seems) < 1485431540 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... performing as expected. :P < 1485433820 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: TANK CHICKEN < 1485434887 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485435015 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485435580 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1485435815 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1485435886 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy JOIN :#esoteric < 1485437890 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485439232 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485440373 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485443454 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485444460 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485447336 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: try to have a backup :\ < 1485447456 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, most of the work is actually getting rid of systemd, rpcbind (why would anyone set up a system with rpcbind running in its default configuration?!) and setting up apache. < 1485447464 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's almost no data there anyway. < 1485447492 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this time I took some notes < 1485447579 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh they want feedback on how they performed on the ticket... < 1485447597 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...let's see, I tried to leave some final comments and it earned my an entry on their server's blacklist < 1485447659 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though that could also have been triggered by the fact that I used the session cookie from two different IPs) < 1485450962 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1485450987 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485451483 0 :doesthiswork1!~Adium@207.55.82.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485451483 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1485452284 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good afertoon evryone < 1485452356 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1485452358 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1485452441 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1485453864 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1485454136 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1485454152 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1485454258 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1485454260 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485455281 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to pkill -9 chrome < 1485455305 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because chroma kept turning my mouse into a beach ball < 1485455345 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :squeak? < 1485455419 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when I see "mouse" I think of the physical device, not the pointer) < 1485455774 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1485455787 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is AАΑAАΑAАΑAАΑAАΑ < 1485455788 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we have n9y25ah7 for next month? < 1485455824 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(context, https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/26/sean-spicer-n9y25ah7/ ) < 1485456621 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kulabuyyklgwzoku QUIT :Excess Flood < 1485456869 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-fyurrnbatpkxtzrn JOIN :#esoteric < 1485457377 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485457726 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1485458131 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :2020 olympic high jump results: < 1485458139 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :gold - mexico < 1485458145 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :silver - mexico < 1485458146 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bronze - mexico < 1485458193 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the news, shia the boof trolled and v& by 9gag < 1485458739 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1485458930 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1485459474 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh < 1485459478 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, nvm < 1485459606 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1485460956 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid QUIT :Quit: Iovoid has quit! < 1485461000 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: do you like vaporwave? < 1485461007 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485461014 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :drat < 1485461031 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1485461071 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: where did your [] go? < 1485461099 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: AAAAGH < 1485461103 0 :hppavilion1!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1485461106 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: hopumpkin < 1485461122 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: My nick is hppavilion1 on foonetic so it carries over here < 1485461129 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Because I can't be on xkcd with the []s < 1485461133 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to get them to fix it < 1485461147 0 :iovoid!iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1485461161 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of language should a build system use for describing build targets and so on < 1485461161 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you like vaporwave < 1485461176 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not Salmon < 1485461179 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think it should be similar to the nix language? that one looks very complicated < 1485461191 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know vaporwave. < 1485461192 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I can say it shoudn't be Salmon < 1485461210 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you take it as your work project to fix the awful build system? < 1485461214 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone will like you. < 1485461290 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are things that have higher priority < 1485461298 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? < 1485461304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it takes four hours to check in a commit? < 1485461320 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can work on a different checkout in the mean time < 1485461337 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevertheless. < 1485461391 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMLrn_bLmT0&t=2153s < 1485461417 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't typically like music with drums in it. < 1485461602 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1485461839 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9L4q-0Pi4E < 1485461918 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vaporwave (British English: vapourwave)[10] is an electronic music subgenre [11] that originated in the early 2010s and spread over the next half of the decade among various Internet communities. It is characterized by a nostalgic or surrealist fascination with entertainment, technology and advertising of the 1980s and 1990s, and styles of both corporate and popular music such as lounge music, smooth jazz and elevator music. < 1485462099 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did some exploration of the build system yesterday. those parts that aren't written in Salmon are written in Perl, Bash and Python < 1485462516 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:c8c8:51bc:8b8e:132f JOIN :#esoteric < 1485462882 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, just going to ask, im making a demo NPM module for otherbot's sandbox, which uses the design you came up with. do you require me to add you as one of the authors of the sandbox? < 1485463464 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485463604 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485463629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1485463838 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last president to have a moustache was Taft < 1485464381 0 :iaglium!U2FsdGVkX1@ma.sdf.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1485464386 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony: No. You need not add me. < 1485464435 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, kk < 1485464611 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485465051 0 :Marcela_-!Marcela_Ga@gateway/shell/imvrypwn/x-thgzhkpgihbzncsz JOIN :#esoteric < 1485465054 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 JOIN :#esoteric < 1485465156 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 QUIT :Client Quit < 1485465305 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:fd09:2f81:2b88:acfc QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485465342 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:fd09:2f81:2b88:acfc JOIN :#esoteric < 1485465409 0 :Marcela_-!Marcela_Ga@gateway/shell/imvrypwn/x-thgzhkpgihbzncsz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION se va a casar con jackiller_killex y los invita a la boda :-[ < 1485465410 0 :Marcela_-!Marcela_Ga@gateway/shell/imvrypwn/x-thgzhkpgihbzncsz PART #esoteric : < 1485465665 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:fd09:2f81:2b88:acfc QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1485465989 0 :Marcela_-!Marcela_Ga@gateway/shell/imvrypwn/x-thgzhkpgihbzncsz JOIN :#esoteric < 1485466051 0 :iaglium!U2FsdGVkX1@ma.sdf.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1485466331 0 :iaglium!U2FsdGVkX1@ma.sdf.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1485466485 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1485467638 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1485470054 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1485471094 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1485471264 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1485471300 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0,4コカ・コーラを飲みましょう < 1485471344 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1485471565 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony: I would like to see the module if possible though. < 1485471749 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose we made a language where syntax is not a tree < 1485471789 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1485471868 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then what is it? Figure what possibilities they are. < 1485471905 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, it would be a general graph < 1485471940 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is what I thought too but what other possibility there is? There are a few stuff on esolang wiki based on graph < 1485471957 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98e0:7e6:81c1:1631:794d:a3b9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :もうマサラティを飲んでいる。 < 1485472019 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98e0:7e6:81c1:1631:794d:a3b9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: http://www.cas.mcmaster.ca/~kahl/HOPS/ < 1485472132 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! < 1485472209 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One way to make a graph-based is with RDF, and I have thought of wanting to use RDF for a AST of Magic: the Gathering cards (although a graph isn't actually needed here, there are a few advantages provided by such thing). < 1485472410 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ, emacs makes a separate process for each open file?! < 1485474480 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485474648 0 :hppavilion2!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1485474729 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1485474831 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1485475053 0 :sfz-!~sfz-@2606:2800:4033:197:2184:f507:e704:144f JOIN :#esoteric < 1485475116 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds