00:01:24 -!- hppavilion1 has joined. 00:05:09 hecko 00:05:21 `? erkin 00:05:22 erkin? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 00:05:29 ‾\_(o_o)_/‾ 00:05:57 helloily 00:06:01 `le/rn An erkin is a sort of small ickle, popular in Stern Urope. 00:06:02 All le//rn variants now use two slashes in the format. 00:06:06 aurgh. 00:06:09 `le//rn An erkin is a sort of small ickle, popular in Stern Urope. 00:06:09 All le//rn variants now use two slashes in the format. 00:06:16 ... 00:06:18 In the *format*, not in the command name. 00:06:18 nice 00:06:20 `learn An erkin is a sort of small ickle, popular in Stern Urope. 00:06:22 Learned 'erkin': An erkin is a sort of small ickle, popular in Stern Urope. 00:06:28 QUINTHELLOPIAAAAAAAAAAAA! 00:06:33 🤔 00:07:06 fizziello. I do not have a recent history of confuzzling HackEgo. sleep deprivation has nothing to do with that. 00:07:08 well that was loud 00:07:26 -!- atehwa has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:09:40 a heffalump or wuzzle 00:09:43 is very confuzzle 00:09:50 indubitably 00:14:27 -!- moonythedwarf has joined. 00:14:48 i noticed the esolang http://esolangs.org/wiki/Clue_(Keymaker) and i've been pondering if its Turing Complete, any ideas? 00:18:34 -!- atehwa has joined. 00:19:20 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 00:37:32 `wisdom 00:37:33 //everyone: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 00:38:28 mhelloonythellodwarf. it looks similar to BCT, so it may be TC maybe? 00:40:52 -!- Sgeo has joined. 00:46:12 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 00:46:50 `` grwp -l 'eryone: W' 00:46:51 \ reflection 00:47:22 -!- FreeFull has joined. 00:47:45 moonythedwarf, these visualisations are terrible 00:54:34 -!- sebbu has joined. 00:55:42 alercah: hellorcah. will you Montréal this June for the Tile? 00:55:55 `` grwp -l 'e.*v.*e.*r.*y.*o.*n.*e.*:.*W.*e.*l.*c.*o' | head -n 1 | hd 00:55:56 000000 03 0a >..< \ 000002 00:56:31 Oh, it was in the simpler thing as well, just didn't notice. 00:57:12 `dowg 00:57:13 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:57:14 3616:2013-09-03 relcome everyone > wisdom/\x03 \ 3615:2013-09-03 echo \x03 > wisdom/\x03 00:57:25 Guess it was intentional then. 00:58:13 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 00:58:30 Odd, but intentional. Oddentional. 00:58:51 hm 00:59:58 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 01:00:10 oerjan: I did the "no edits to .hgignore" thing, at least up to some point. 01:01:31 @tell CalvinGames What does NAND have to offer that NOR doesn't? <-- they're duals of each other, so not much. 01:01:31 Consider it noted. 01:01:42 yay 01:01:42 oerjan: It's got one more letter. 01:02:15 you are technically correct, etc. 01:03:02 Technically correct is the best kind of correct. 01:04:07 @tell rdococ you might need a false value F but it'll work. unless you want symmetry. <-- yep. didn't i mention post's lattice already... 01:04:07 Consider it noted. 01:04:13 fizzie: that was the etc. part. 01:04:29 Oh. 01:04:34 5. technical -- (resulting from or dependent on market factors rather than fundamental economic considerations; "analysts content that the stock market is due for a technical rally"; "the fall is only a technical correction") 01:08:36 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 01:20:06 technically, it is the only kind of correct 01:30:25 -!- krok_ has quit (Quit: Leaving). 01:34:49 fizzie: for some reason i'm unable to view https://bitbucket.org/fizzie/hackbot/src/b78838e4ef4696f34106bdc06005b6fb74b89122/multibot_cmds/PRIVMSG/tr_60.cmd?at=default 01:35:08 ...and there it fixed itself 01:38:14 fizzie: it seems to me that if anything manages to raise and error inside the try, the rest of the cleanup won't work? 01:38:21 *an 01:38:25 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:38:33 * boily pokes hellørjan 01:40:05 * oerjan swellots boily -----### 01:41:27 * boily wobbles 01:42:44 `ls tmp 01:42:45 paste \ spline \ spout 01:42:58 `url tmp/spout 01:42:59 http://www2.codu.org/projects/hackbot/tmp/spout 01:46:20 -!- Perenelle has joined. 01:50:57 -!- moonythedwarf has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 01:51:22 Bf is cool 01:51:51 oerjan: bitbucket's source view is a little oddishly slow sometimes. Yeah, that's fair -- in fact, I think would have broken if you just removed .hgignore entirely, because of that. Fixed now. 01:51:55 I need a 20 byte compiler 01:51:58 oerjan: Can you tell there are no unit tests? 01:53:12 fizzie: also, your PR at Gregor's bitbucket doesn't mention the latest changes 01:53:23 (in the description) 01:53:31 Oh, does it have the commits? 01:53:36 I didn't know Bitbucket would do that. 01:53:36 yep 01:54:16 I would have liked to use separate branches for this, but I couldn't figure out a good way to then update the live HackEgo without making it very confusing. 01:55:05 maybe you could use separate branches, but merge into your own default branch? 01:55:22 * oerjan is wildly guessing 01:55:31 Mmmmaybe. It's a little too late now. 01:58:10 Description updated. 02:12:18 Okay, is THIS definition of a triangle correct?: 02:12:31 A triangle is the union of three line segments such that the intersections are exactly the endpoints. 02:13:34 `? `n 02:13:35 `n? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 02:14:05 `? `spam 02:14:06 `spam prints the nth output piece of the previous `1, `2, `5, sport or spore command. n defaults to the next piece to display. Abbreviation: `n. 02:15:19 `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 02:15:20 ¯\(°_o)/¯ is a misspelling of ¯\(°_o)/¯ 02:15:57 `dowg¯\(°_o)/¯ 02:15:58 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/dowg¯\(°_o)/¯: No such file or directory 02:16:02 `dowg ¯\(°_o)/¯ 02:16:04 4800:2014-09-10 mkdir wisdom/\'\xc2\xaf\\(\xc2\xb0\xe2\x80\x8b_o)\'; learn \'\xc2\xaf\\(\xc2\xb0\xe2\x80\x8b_o)/\xc2\xaf is a misspelling of \xc2\xaf\\(\xc2\xb0_o)/\xc2\xaf\' 02:16:14 I'm trying to reason through my proposed definition, here. 02:16:39 tswett: looks good to me 02:17:00 We've got three line segments. All of their endpoints must be intersections. So this certainly means, at least, that "triangles" must be connected. 02:17:19 I'm trying to think... given that a point is an endpoint, what can we conclude? 02:17:29 Like, suppose we have a line segment AB, with an endpoint A. 02:17:53 Well, A must be an intersection, so there's another line segment containing A. 02:18:19 as much B. and those cannot be the same segment. 02:18:22 *as must 02:19:18 Right, there can't be another line segment containing both A and B. 02:19:37 So there must be line segments L and M, besides AB, such that L contains A and M contains B. 02:19:49 So how do we show that A is an endpoint of L? 02:20:03 oh hm 02:20:18 Well, if A is *not* an endpoint of L, that means that L contains two endpoints besides A (and besides B). 02:20:31 So we can relabel L as CD, and C and D, being endpoints, must also be intersections. 02:20:35 fungot: before I go to sleep, sandefjordsmør. 02:20:35 boily: is debian's gnome meant to feel fnord? well those and the list is empty 02:20:49 -!- boily has quit (Quit: SERIOUS CHICKEN). 02:21:13 * oerjan has no idea how sandefjordsmør tastes 02:22:06 C and D cannot be on AB. but they also cannot be on the third segment. contradiction. 02:22:21 Yeah, that pretty much does it. 02:22:27 *cannot both be 02:22:30 No two of the segments can share multiple points. 02:23:24 So... the fact that no two segments can share multiple points, along with the fact that each segment has to have exactly two intersections, means that each segment intersects each other segment at exactly one point. 02:23:40 Right? 02:23:44 right 02:24:10 You have to have two intersections, but you can't have two intersections with the same segment, so you have to have two intersections with two different segments. 02:24:55 s/two/at least two/ 02:25:00 (first instance) 02:25:20 Well, there only exist two other segments at all. 02:25:43 yes, but that's how you prove there's exactly two 02:27:06 Right, so line segment AB intersects the other two segments, L and M, at A and B, respectively. L has to have A as an endpoint, because if not (and its endpionts are C and D), then C has to lie on M (since it can't lie on AB since that would mean sharing multiple points), and D likewise has tolie on M, but C and D can't both lie on M. 02:27:38 So all this, applying some WLOG, means that the line segments can be written as AB, AC, and BD, with C and D not necessarily distinct. 02:27:56 Well, C has to be an intersection, and it can't be an intersection with AB, so it has to be an intersection with BD. 02:28:06 Likewise, D has to be an intersection with AC. 02:28:23 This means that AC and BD share point C, and they share point D, so we have C = D. 02:28:55 Thus, we have line segments AB, AC, and BC, with no intersections besides the endpoints. 02:28:58 Boom. Triangle. 02:31:13 `? erkin 02:31:14 An erkin is a sort of small ickle, popular in Stern Urope. 02:31:38 i'm not entirely sure there's a common logic to what's left off 02:32:32 i guess it wobbles. 02:33:42 `cat bin/slashlearn 02:33:43 sep="//" \ [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || { echo 'All le//rn variants now use two slashes in the format.' >&2 ; exit 1; } \ key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)" \ value="${1#*$sep}" \ [ -e "wisdom/$key" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo -n "$verb '$key': $(echo "$value" | sed 's.^[ ].&. 02:33:51 Yeah, I don't immediately see what logic would produce Stern Urope. 02:34:01 What's the difference between those two digraphs? Or is it their environment? 02:34:15 digraph? 02:34:28 Yeah. Stern Urope. 02:34:51 You're not going to force me to communicate clearly, are you? 02:34:58 heaven forbid 02:35:13 well, it goes like 2-1-2-1 02:35:49 You're suggesting that the chop isn't determined entirely by the content of the word? This is adness. 02:35:58 ndeed 02:36:41 Maybe the ule is that you can't alter the onunciation of the word too much. 02:36:54 "Rope" is pronounced way too ongly. 02:37:05 ocking 02:39:03 `sled bin/slashlearn//1s,'.*','Usage: `le/[/]rn //', 02:39:04 bin/slashlearn//sep="//" \ [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || { echo 'All le//rn variants now use two slashes in the format.' >&2 ; exit 1; } \ key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)" \ value="${1#*$sep}" \ [ -e "wisdom/$key" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo -n "$verb '$key': $(echo "$value" | sed 02:39:12 fff 02:39:17 `revert 02:39:18 Done. 02:40:08 oh 02:40:19 `sled bin/slashlearn//2s,'.*','Usage: `le/[/]rn //', 02:40:21 bin/slashlearn//sep="//" \ [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || { echo 'Usage: `le/[/]rn //' >&2 ; exit 1; } \ key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)" \ value="${1#*$sep}" \ [ -e "wisdom/$key" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo -n "$verb '$key': $(echo "$value" | sed 's.^[ ].&.')" 02:40:36 `le/rn *MWAHAHAHA* 02:40:38 Usage: `le/[/]rn // 02:41:24 What's the point of that [/]? 02:42:00 TRADITION 02:42:20 i,i `le///rn 02:44:16 `? le/rn 02:44:17 le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past. 02:45:23 That joke is no longer applicable. :-( 02:46:45 isn't it? 02:48:39 Am I missing a level? 02:49:07 At the time, the joke was that le/rn couldn't be used to create the entry le/rn, because it didn't support entries containing /. 02:49:10 But now it does. 02:55:49 -!- hppavilion1 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 02:56:21 `? tmp 02:56:22 tmp/ is a directory for files that are not worth saving in HackEgo history, but which should still outlive a single command. NOTE: It interacts funnily with HackEgo's lock and re-run commit check; files can DISAPPEAR if you don't know what you're doing. Basically, don't modify files inside and outside tmp/ in the same HackEgo command. 02:56:29 `hurl tmp/abc 02:56:30 File is outside web-viewable filesystem repository. 02:56:37 `url tmp/abc 02:56:37 http://www2.codu.org/projects/hackbot/tmp/abc 03:05:33 -!- staffehn has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.). 03:05:52 -!- staffehn has joined. 03:10:16 `url /hackenv/tmp/abc 03:10:17 http://www2.codu.org/projects/hackbot/tmp/abc 03:12:59 `url .hg/abc 03:12:59 File is outside web-viewable filesystem repository. 03:13:52 `url abc/def 03:13:52 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/abc/def 03:21:34 I was once wondering if I should make those URLs something like http[s]://hackego.esolangs.org/{fshg,tmp}/... instead. 03:22:46 (Or more preferably http://hackegousercontent.com/... but domains don't grow in trees.) 03:22:54 -!- zzo38 has joined. 03:23:23 They don't? 03:43:34 -!- deepbook5broo has joined. 04:04:23 -!- adu has joined. 04:23:02 `cat bin/edit 04:23:03 cat: bin/edit: No such file or directory 04:29:30 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 04:29:31 `` >bin/edit echo '#!/usr/bin/env python'; >>bin/edit echo 'import sys, urllib'; >>bin/edit echo 'print "http://slbkbs.org:5196/edit?path=" + urllib.quote(sys.argv[1])'; chmod +x bin/edit 04:29:33 No output. 04:29:39 `edit tmp/spout 04:29:39 http://slbkbs.org:5196/edit?path=tmp/spout 04:29:50 Oops. 04:30:02 I forgot a step. 04:30:25 `` >bin/edit echo '#!/usr/bin/env python'; >>bin/edit echo 'import sys, os, urllib'; >>bin/edit echo 'print "http://slbkbs.org:5196/edit?path=" + urllib.quote(os.path.realpath(sys.argv[1]))'; chmod +x bin/edit 04:30:27 No output. 04:30:29 `edit tmp/spout 04:30:29 http://slbkbs.org:5196/edit?path=/hackenv/tmp/spout 04:30:33 -!- Perenelle has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 04:30:57 `fetch /hackenv/tmp/spout http://slbkbs.org:5196/get?path=%2Fhackenv%2Ftmp%2Fspout 04:30:58 In another world: /hackenv/tmp/spout 04:31:07 `fetch tmp/spout http://slbkbs.org:5196/get?path=%2Fhackenv%2Ftmp%2Fspout 04:31:08 2017-02-17 04:30:54 URL:http://slbkbs.org:5196/get?path=%2Fhackenv%2Ftmp%2Fspout [0/0] -> "tmp/spout" [1] 04:31:14 `n 04:31:15 1/0: 04:31:19 `cat tmp/spout 04:31:19 No output. 04:31:28 Oops. 04:34:01 When are you going to implement Checkout on GPU? 04:34:35 `fetch tmp/spline http://slbkbs.org:5196/get?path=%2Fhackenv%2Ftmp%2Fspline 04:34:36 2017-02-17 04:34:22 URL:http://slbkbs.org:5196/get?path=%2Fhackenv%2Ftmp%2Fspline [3/3] -> "tmp/spline" [1] 04:34:39 `cat tmp/spline 04:34:40 5 04:35:31 `fetch /hackenv/bin/edit http://slbkbs.org:5196/get?path=%2Fhackenv%2Fbin%2Fedit 04:35:32 In another world: /hackenv/bin/edit 04:35:37 `fetch bin/edit http://slbkbs.org:5196/get?path=%2Fhackenv%2Fbin%2Fedit 04:35:38 2017-02-17 04:35:24 URL:http://slbkbs.org:5196/get?path=%2Fhackenv%2Fbin%2Fedit [210/210] -> "bin/edit" [1] 04:35:50 `edit 04:35:51 /usr/bin/env: python 04:36:20 `cat bin/edit 04:36:21 #!/usr/bin/env python 04:36:30 `xxd bin/edit 04:36:31 0000000: 2321 2f75 7372 2f62 696e 2f65 6e76 2070 #!/usr/bin/env p \ 0000010: 7974 686f 6e0d 0a0d 0a69 6d70 6f72 7420 ython....import \ 0000020: 7379 732c 206f 732c 2075 726c 6c69 620d sys, os, urllib. \ 0000030: 0a0d 0a69 6620 6c65 6e28 7379 732e 6172 ...if len(sys.ar \ 0000040: 6776 2920 3c20 323a 0d0a 2020 7072 696e gv) < 2:.. prin \ 00000 04:37:45 Hmm. 04:40:53 * oerjan cannot imagine why files are not dumped as bytes by default 04:42:25 `fetch bin/edit http://slbkbs.org:5196/get?path=%2Fhackenv%2Fbin%2Fedit 04:42:26 2017-02-17 04:42:12 URL:http://slbkbs.org:5196/get?path=%2Fhackenv%2Fbin%2Fedit [201/201] -> "bin/edit" [1] 04:42:32 `edit 04:42:33 usage: edit 04:42:48 `edit bin/abc 04:42:48 http://slbkbs.org:5196/edit?path=/hackenv/bin/abc 04:42:55 `edit tmp/spout 04:42:56 http://slbkbs.org:5196/edit?path=/hackenv/tmp/spout 04:43:17 `fetch tmp/spout http://slbkbs.org:5196/get?path=%2Fhackenv%2Ftmp%2Fspout 04:43:18 2017-02-17 04:43:04 URL:http://slbkbs.org:5196/get?path=%2Fhackenv%2Ftmp%2Fspout [13/13] -> "tmp/spout" [1] 04:43:24 `n 1 04:43:24 1/2:one 04:43:25 `n 04:43:26 2/2:two 04:43:34 `cat tmp/spout 04:43:34 one \ two \ three 04:43:38 `n 04:43:38 1/2:one 04:43:42 pretty good 04:44:09 i sense an off by one error 04:44:18 `xxd tmp/spout 04:44:19 0000000: 6f6e 650a 7477 6f0a 7468 7265 65 one.two.three 04:44:22 There's no final newline. 04:44:29 aha 04:44:29 So the wrapping logic happens too early. 04:44:43 Anyway, this will be good enough for editing, I guess. 04:44:45 `wc tmp/spout 04:44:45 2 3 13 tmp/spout 04:44:59 @time fizzie 04:45:00 Local time for fizzie is Fri Feb 17 04:44:59 2017 04:45:07 @tell fizzie please allow absolute paths in `fetch twh 04:45:07 Consider it noted. 04:48:50 shachaf: you could also strip the /hackenv/ in your page hth 04:49:04 `cat bin/spam 04:49:04 line="${1-$(cat /hackenv/tmp/spline)}"; len="$(wc -l /hackenv/tmp/spout | awk '{print $1}')"; echo -n "$line/$len:"; sed -n "${line}{p;q}" /hackenv/tmp/spout; echo "$((line /hackenv/tmp/spline 04:49:34 oerjan: I could. In fact I do it anyway when I fetch the files. 04:49:42 But `fetch ought to support canonical paths. 04:49:50 But fine. 04:49:53 technically correct 04:50:24 i didn't know wc -l was this scow 04:50:35 `n 3 04:50:35 3/2:three 04:50:44 `n 4 04:50:45 4/2: 04:51:29 `edit bin/url 04:51:29 http://slbkbs.org:5196/edit?path=/hackenv/bin/url 04:57:23 what was the awk in bin/spam for, agai 04:57:25 n 04:59:25 `doat bin/spam 04:59:27 8289:2016-06-03 mkx bin/spam//line="$(cat /hackenv/tmp/spline)"; sed -n "${line}p" /hackenv/tmp/spout; echo "$((line+1))" > /hackenv/tmp/spline \ 8292:2016-06-03 mkx bin/spam//line="$(cat /hackenv/tmp/spline)"; len="$(wc -l /hackenv/tmp/spout | awk \'{print $1}\')"; echo -n "$line/$len:"; sed -n "${line}p" /hackenv/tmp/spout 05:00:00 Maybe because wc precedes the line count with whitespace? 05:00:12 `` wc -l tmp/spout 05:00:13 2 tmp/spout 05:00:22 Oh, no, it includes the name. 05:00:39 hm not if piped 05:00:54 `` cat tmp/spout | wc -l 05:00:55 2 05:00:58 `` cat tmp/spout | wc -l | xxd 05:00:59 0000000: 320a 2. 05:01:01 Oh well. 05:01:15 The annoying thing is that I have a hilight on that domain name. 05:07:44 `` cd bin; wc * | sort -rn 05:07:53 160398 430569 17108271 total \ 103525 133799 3407446 macro \ 19353 57384 592337 word \ 9289 48572 3027945 jq \ 7751 45913 1638192 7za \ 5254 42641 2301021 tclkit \ 4853 27899 1613113 units \ 1645 9418 415968 ploki \ 1428 13345 806552 udcli \ 1224 4048 44974 gs2.py \ 05:21:05 `nooodl: nooodl 05:21:06 nooodl 05:22:15 -!- erkin has quit (Quit: Leaving). 05:23:02 `cat bin/nooodl: 05:23:03 âELF............>.....¤@.....@.......b..........@.8..@.........@.......@.@.....@.@.....ø.......ø....................8......8@.....8@............................................@.......@.....W......W........ ............à]......à]`.....à]`.....°......`........ ...........ø]......ø]`.....ø]`.....à.......à................ 05:23:06 wat 05:23:15 `doag bin/nooodk 05:23:16 No output. 05:23:19 Welp. 05:23:19 `doag bin/nooodl 05:23:20 No output. 05:23:23 silly keys 05:23:32 hikhq 05:23:33 `doag bin/nooodl: 05:23:35 2787:2013-04-23 ln -s /bin/echo bin/nooodl: 05:23:42 `edit wisdom/pikhq 05:23:42 http://slbkbs.org:5196/edit?path=/hackenv/wisdom/pikhq 05:23:44 ah. 05:23:55 `? pikhq 05:23:56 pikhq? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:24:36 shocking 05:24:42 `dowg pikhq 05:24:44 No output. 05:24:51 Woe betides. 05:30:08 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 05:35:27 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 05:37:00 -!- deepbook5broo has left. 05:44:38 [wiki] [[Jolverine Turing-completeness proof]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50996&oldid=33932 * Oerjan * (+48) Why isn't this on by default... 05:56:33 -!- The has joined. 05:56:43 -!- The has changed nick to TheNeolutionist. 05:56:49 Hey everybody! 05:57:11 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 05:57:56 -!- TheNeolutionist has left. 07:19:59 -!- hppavilion1 has joined. 07:21:41 -!- hppavilion1 has quit (Client Quit). 07:24:16 fizzie: "Oerjan * (+48) Why isn't this on by default..." <-- the CSS served by esolangs has two entries for pre,.mw-code; the first one sets white-space:pre, and the second one sets white-space:pre-wrap; As a wild guess, maybe the former is a wikimedia default and the latter may be some custom theme? 07:29:38 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 07:34:47 hint-e 08:00:43 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:12:34 when I make an antivirus, it will detect windows as spyware 08:25:04 -!- augur has joined. 09:18:39 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:19:14 -!- augur has joined. 09:22:45 -!- moonythedwarf has joined. 09:23:34 shachaf: The problem with absolute paths is that "/hackenv" is not a path from the perspective of `fetch. 09:24:03 /hackenv is a piece of fiction inside the sandbox, but `fetch doesn't run inside it. 09:24:22 It already supports absolute paths if you make them the right kind of absolute paths. 09:24:54 What do you need absolute paths for anyway? 09:27:49 -!- moonythedwarf has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 09:29:05 Oh, that's a thing. 09:29:45 Well. Maybe. 09:29:47 @ask shachaf What does the "Edit" button do? And see above for some comments on absolute paths. 09:29:47 Consider it noted. 09:34:00 fizzie: what? I can download to an absolute path, and I can overwrite the sandboxing executable with it? 09:34:23 fizzie: the "edit" button updates the on-server copy of the file to what's in the textarea... 09:35:07 fizzie: apparently the workflow is clickfetch -> edit textarea -> click edit -> copy command line displayed at top to hackego 09:35:28 Oh, "on-server" as in the one that comes out of /get. Right. Got it. 09:35:37 @tell shachaf Never mind, I was already told. 09:35:37 Consider it noted. 09:35:59 b_jonas: You can download to an absolute path if it's within the directory that shows up as /hackenv inside the sandbox. 09:36:16 (And outside .hg and so on.) 09:36:31 http://slbkbs.org:5196/edit?path=foobar 09:42:00 fizzie: ah 09:45:35 It's not common knowledge what that path is, but I think there was some way it shows up. 09:46:27 `` cat /proc/mounts | grep /hackenv 09:46:28 none /hackenv hostfs rw,nosuid,relatime,/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/ 0 0 \ none /hackenv/.hg hostfs ro,nosuid,relatime,/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/ 0 0 09:46:34 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 09:47:17 `fetch /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/tmp/test http://slbkbs.org:5196/get?path=%2Fhackenv%2Ftmp%2Fspline 09:47:19 2017-02-17 09:47:04 URL:http://slbkbs.org:5196/get?path=%2Fhackenv%2Ftmp%2Fspline [0/0] -> "tmp/test" [1] 09:47:23 `rm tmp/test 09:47:23 No output. 09:47:52 ugh, how secure is that? 09:51:41 Discussed off-channel. 09:52:01 `fetch /hackenv/tmp/test http://slbkbs.org:5196/get?path=%2Fhackenv%2Ftmp%2Fspline 09:52:02 2017-02-17 09:51:48 URL:http://slbkbs.org:5196/get?path=%2Fhackenv%2Ftmp%2Fspline [0/0] -> "tmp/test" [1] 09:52:35 Made that work too, although in the simplest possible way (just scrubbing "/hackenv/" out if the argument starts with that). 10:00:21 fizzie: wait, you put the filename _before_ the url? ouch 10:00:32 oh well 10:02:55 -!- augur_ has joined. 10:03:09 b_jonas: Yes, because of 10:03:10 `fetch minsk https://esolangs.org/wiki/The Amnesiac From Minsk 10:03:10 2017-02-16 01:05:46 URL:https://esolangs.org/wiki/The%20Amnesiac%20From%20Minsk [41183] -> "minsk" [1] 10:03:44 It seemed to me the URL was more likely (even if it's not all *that* likely) to contain spaces than the filename. 10:06:18 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 10:11:45 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 10:11:45 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Changing host). 10:11:45 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 10:51:21 fizzie: Ah, I see. 10:51:36 @messages-low 10:51:36 fizzie asked 1h 21m 49s ago: What does the "Edit" button do? And see above for some comments on absolute paths. 10:51:36 fizzie said 1h 15m 59s ago: Never mind, I was already told. 10:52:52 int-e: Yes, just a mutable pastebin that supports fetching from codu. 10:53:59 I think it's sufficient for simple changes to multiline files. 10:54:33 fizzie: Anyway I already updated the `fetch command to remove /hackenv/ 10:55:24 fizzie: Why not support HTTP inside the sandbox? Wasn't that possible in the past? 10:57:29 shachaf: I think it's deliberately limited that way 10:57:55 it would be possible to allow it, but users could abuse that 10:59:34 I thought there was a proxy once. 10:59:44 There are remnants of it. 11:01:44 At one point I added an experimental function to jevalbot that could send any command to buubot and wait for the reply. This was a true function so it could be called (multiple times) programmably from a jeval command. 11:02:06 That was an experiment on what kind of limited external interfacing I could add in it 11:05:04 shachaf: There was a proxy with a whitelist of addresses. 11:05:23 I don't think it's been set up in the new system, that's all. 11:06:14 There's still the port forwarding out of umlbox, and probably proxy environment settings, but nothing listening on it. 11:07:19 `hurl 11:07:20 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ 11:08:19 Away for a while. 11:08:39 `2017 11:08:40 Hello, world! 11:08:54 `2016 11:08:55 No output. 11:08:58 `2015 11:08:59 Hello, world! 11:09:01 `2014 11:09:02 No output. 11:10:40 What happened with CALESYTA 2016? 11:11:20 https://esolangs.org/wiki/CALESYTA says the website was taken down as of Jan 2016. I guess it means 2017. 11:13:01 `? keenlist 11:13:02 keenlist is notification for when Tom Hall finally acquires the necessary intellectual property rights to create the videogame series Commander Keen: The Universe is Toast 11:14:29 -!- augur_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:35:38 -!- boily has joined. 12:16:19 shachaf: it fell off the internet 12:16:21 -!- boily has quit (Quit: IMITATION CHICKEN). 12:16:39 and yes, it means 2017-01, sorry, I always make that kind of mistake near the start of the year 12:16:48 I keep writing 2016 in dates still and it's february 12:17:16 [wiki] [[CALESYTA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50997&oldid=50830 * B jonas * (+0) /* 2016 CE */ 12:17:29 -!- Qunar has joined. 12:36:12 -!- Qunar has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat). 12:44:20 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 13:15:52 `card-by-name tinder-wall 13:15:53 No output. 13:15:57 `card-by-name tinder wall 13:15:58 Tinder Wall \ G \ Creature -- Plant Wall \ 0/3 \ Defender (This creature can't attack.) \ Sacrifice Tinder Wall: Add {R}{R} to your mana pool. \ {R}, Sacrifice Tinder Wall: Tinder Wall deals 2 damage to target creature it's blocking. \ IA-C, ME2-C 13:37:39 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 13:45:15 Stupid M:TG question. What the heck is rule 702.42a for? It talks about a creature having multiple instances of modular, but as far as I can see, that's impossible. It's not an activated ability, so it can't be stolen, and there's nothing printed that gives modular to any object. 13:51:01 -!- ski has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 14:08:09 -!- ski has joined. 14:37:05 [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50998&oldid=50989 * Calvin Games * (+16) /* I */ 14:53:02 -!- sirnaysayer has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 14:54:19 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 14:54:29 -!- heroux has joined. 14:55:07 -!- sirnaysayer has joined. 14:59:09 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 15:13:37 -!- sirnaysayer has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 15:14:15 -!- heroux has joined. 15:17:55 -!- sirnaysayer has joined. 15:22:16 `scheme 15:22:17