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00:43:07 <oerjan> <shachaf> oerjan: look <-- where? WHERE? OH MY GOD WHAT'S HAPPENING
00:43:35 <shachaf> oerjan: You were blaming me for something related to wisdom.
00:44:15 <oerjan> shachaf: yes? do you claim innocence?
00:44:55 <oerjan> although mostly i was blaming boily for confusing you with me
00:56:40 <zzo38> How to lock out the HD channels and SD channels independently on the Motorola cable box? When I set the lock it wants to set the lock together
00:59:15 <HackEgo> http://hackego.esolangs.org/edit/wisdom/oerjan
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01:25:51 <oerjan> now _that_ is just evil.
01:27:25 <oerjan> using `edit for wisdoms
01:28:45 <oerjan> . o O ( perhaps it should construct a `sled instead of a `fetch when it's short enough :P )
01:28:56 <fizzie> oerjan: I was thinking of putting in a diffy kind of summary in the commit message when it's very short.
01:29:29 <fizzie> In the message you get for `fetch.
01:29:52 <oerjan> hm that would also work
01:30:47 <fizzie> (The `sled thing could be doable too, though then it'd have to fetch the HackEgo copy every time. A `mk-when-short would be trivial.)
01:31:14 <HackEgo> [[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo usage: "mk[x]" file//contents >&2; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "$key")" && echo "$key"
01:31:27 <HackEgo> cat: test: No such file or directory
01:31:54 <oerjan> `` mkx test//yo; mk test//hi; ls -l test
01:31:56 <HackEgo> test \ test \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 3 Feb 21 01:31 test
01:31:58 <fizzie> Incidentally, there's no `fetchx, which does mean that you still end up with two lines of history if making a new command.
01:32:20 <oerjan> just checking that it at least preserves mode
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01:32:50 <oerjan> `fetch test http://hackego.esolangs.org/get/wisdom/oerjan
01:32:51 <HackEgo> 2017-02-21 01:32:29 URL:http://hackego.esolangs.org/get/wisdom/oerjan [335/335] -> "test" [1]
01:32:58 <HackEgo> -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 335 Feb 21 01:32 test
01:33:19 <fizzie> Yeah, updating existing executables is fine.
01:33:34 <HackEgo> #!/usr/bin/env python \ \ import sys, os.path, re, urllib \ \ if len(sys.argv) < 2: \ sys.exit('http://hackego.esolangs.org/edit/') \ \ f = os.path.realpath(sys.argv[1]) \ f = re.sub(r"^/+hackenv/", "", f) \ if re.match(r"/|\.hg(?:/|ignore$|$)",f): \ sys.exit("File is not editable.") \ print 'http://hackego.esolangs.org/edit/' + urllib.qu
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01:40:17 <fizzie> I was also considering patching `fetch to use a temporary file for wget and only clobber the named file if successful, which seems a little more user-friendly.
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01:50:03 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Oerjan * deleted "[[Esolang:SolboScript]]": Mistaken move
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03:13:51 <zzo38> I am playing Rogue and I touched some gap in the floor, and then it asked for a save file, and after restoring the save file, it is now level 29285, armor -269, and I get the message "In some bizarre place (1, 61)" and when trying to move, instead get similar messages with other numbers. Do you know what that is?
03:14:05 <zzo38> Also now next to the time it says "Lattice C 1.02cas"
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03:16:03 <zzo38> Also, my mace emitted a flash of white light upon first entering the room that had that gap.
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04:50:51 <\oren\> what kind of food is a "nokky"?
04:54:10 <quintopia> i just heard carlsagan42 talking to bjonas in a youtube video. such a strange small world we are in
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05:02:07 <oerjan> \oren\: gnocchi perhaps?
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05:14:50 <\oren\> yeah that's what it was
05:15:05 <\oren\> I was watching hell's kitchen
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05:26:33 <zzo38> I had another idea of Magic: the Gathering card which would be: ~'s power and toughness are each equal to the number of counters on you. (regardless what kind of counter)
05:28:12 <pikhq> It's a fairly neat and novel effect, yet also quite simple.
05:28:31 <zzo38> Yes, it is what I thought too
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05:31:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Brainfuck++]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=51068 * Destructible watermelon * (+170) Created page with "Did you just call Brainfuck a joke lang and useless? →🚪 get out ~~~"
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06:06:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Brainfuck++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51069&oldid=51068 * Oerjan * (+240) Nope
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11:35:50 <HackEgo> boxmodel//boxmodel is how we figure out how big Taneb's cage is going to be.
11:38:30 <boily> Tanelle. please note that I do not condone any caging.
11:40:03 <boily> . o O ( what is the volume of the average human? )
11:40:57 <int-e> 1/2 m^3? let's google.
11:41:14 <int-e> actually that's silly
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11:41:57 <boily> “So, knowing two of our three variables, we have a mass of 70kg divided by a density of 985 kg/m^3 equal to our volume, or .0711 cubic meters, and since 1 cubic meter = 1000 liters, around 71 liters.” ― https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-volume-of-average-human
11:42:24 <int-e> I should divide weight by density, so 0.07m^3 maybe.
11:42:55 <boily> about 2500 fl oz then.
11:43:06 <int-e> a bit more because people, barely, float.
11:43:12 <int-e> whatever fl oz are.
11:43:49 <boily> fluid ounces, the tastiest unit there is.
11:44:20 <boily> floating is a foreign concept. I sink.
11:44:39 <int-e> boily: I can say the words, I have no intuition for the unit.
11:45:14 <int-e> but perhaps I should've written "whatever fluid ounces are". but it's too late.
11:46:09 <int-e> boily: that's how we test for cyborgs.
11:46:30 <int-e> (it's similar to the test for witches in the middle ages)
11:50:38 <boily> I'm not a cyborg, and I'm not a witch, nor a duck.
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11:54:06 <Taneb> Dunking would be a bit of a weird Voight-Kampff
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11:59:06 <boily> Taneb: the machine, or the empathy test?
11:59:34 <Taneb> boily, the purpose
12:03:42 <int-e> speaking of cyborgs, https://imgur.com/gallery/VgxcD is funny.
12:04:10 <int-e> (well, it's still kind of funny today)
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17:33:18 <oerjan> i dunno, i'm not paying attention
17:38:45 <quintopia> not paying attention to your life???
17:39:49 <HackEgo> ‘Life,’ said Marvin, ‘don't talk to me about life.’
17:41:16 <oerjan> i wasn't actually talking about my life, anyway.
17:43:26 <oerjan> oh right, trump said something stupid about sweden, i noticed that.
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17:48:48 <quintopia> i was asking about what was new with you in particular. have you done or made anything cool?
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17:57:18 <shachaf> oerjan: sorry to hear about what you swedes are going through hth
17:59:48 * oerjan whacks shachaf with the saucepan ===\__/
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19:20:07 <HackEgo> olist 1066: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
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20:49:50 <_thum> why are there so few women on irc?
20:51:03 <_thum> somebody should write a book on the subject...
20:51:35 <_thum> what are the social forces that prevent women from reaching irc
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20:53:01 <_thum> anybody? anybody got any clues as to why?
20:53:32 <HackEgo> _thum: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
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20:54:21 <thum_> esoteric programming? lol
20:54:40 <thum_> i guess anything other than C is esoteric
20:56:28 <int-e> There are lots of non-esoteric languages. Java, C#, Python, Perl, Ruby, PHP, Rust, Swift, SQL, JavaScript, Visual Basic, VHDL, Verilog, TCL, various shells...
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20:57:41 <thum_> yeah, i agree, i guess Prolog is esoteric
20:58:02 <int-e> no, Prolog and Lisp are also non-esoteric. So are Mathematica and MATLAB.
20:58:27 <int-e> Or Haskell, Caml, OCaml
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20:58:56 <int-e> They've all been made and are being used to write real programs.
20:59:02 <int-e> your connection sucks.
20:59:26 <HackEgo> _thum: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
20:59:53 <_thum> oh, sorry, this isn't wood shop?
21:00:20 <int-e> I don't know what you mean, so I suppose the answer is "yes"?
21:01:03 <_thum> you guessed right, but seriously, i thought it was about esoteric knowledge in general
21:01:14 <_thum> not just programming
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21:04:48 <int-e> Na, we wander off topic but then we tend to discuss games (like Magic: the Gathering, text adventures or Dwarf Fortress (not in a long time?), web comics and science. Oh and wisdom.
21:04:54 <HackEgo> applicative functor//Applicative functors are just monoids in the category of endofunctors.
21:05:46 <shachaf> Sometimes we don't close our parentheses.
21:06:50 <int-e> (most of the time it's not even deliberate)))
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21:07:58 <thum_> i got an esoteric language for ya... HLSL
21:08:37 <int-e> high level shading language? .. no it's shader
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21:09:11 <int-e> It's not esoteric either, I'm afraid. Just like OpenCL isn't, or the older assembly like OpenGL shading language
21:09:28 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wiki: not found
21:09:32 <HackEgo> The wiki is at <http://esolangs.org/>.
21:09:46 <_thum> how esoteric do you have to be?
21:10:38 <_thum> hehe.. "brainfuck"
21:11:22 <int-e> INTERCAL is historcally interesting; Befunge is quite popular too
21:11:40 <int-e> fungot: do you like Befunge?
21:11:40 <fungot> int-e: i thought an eigenvalue was. now i feel better already than common lisp?
21:11:54 <int-e> (fungot is a bot written in Befunge)
21:11:54 <fungot> int-e: something about formal methods iirc? if not, don't mind it
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21:16:01 <_thum> http://pastebin.com/6Dn5Zur1
21:16:12 <_thum> this is my latest psudo noise function
21:18:11 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
21:18:16 <fungot> Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams)
21:18:29 <int-e> (so basically that's where it learned its vocabulary)
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21:19:26 <_thum> new esoteric language... "nutation"
21:19:43 <int-e> hmm, would the noise be prettier with a sawtooth instead of frac()? just wondering
21:21:06 <_thum> i dunno... try it... it's nice to program something and see results right away
21:22:01 <int-e> I can't easily test it.
21:23:13 <_thum> yeah, just get k-lite codec pack... then you can write shaders on the fly
21:23:17 <int-e> (I'd have to translate it to OpenCL, and find some test harness for opengl shaders that I don't have, though that should not take *too* long.)
21:23:46 * int-e is running GNU/Linux
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21:24:59 <thum_> the media player even disassembles it for you... well, it's easy to do, directx does the compiling
21:25:00 <int-e> instead of frac(x), a possible sawtooth function would be abs(frac(x)*2-1)
21:25:42 * int-e goes outside for a bit
21:26:55 <thum_> hrm, well, you're still getting into the same 0-1 range? heh
21:27:16 <thum_> but how it looks on the screen is a different issue
21:27:46 <thum_> well, no, you'd be in 1-2 range.. :(
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21:28:52 <int-e> frac(x) is in [0,1); frac(x)*2 is in [0,2); frac(x)*2-1 is in [-1,1), abs(...) is in [0,1].
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22:07:55 <shachaf> https://twitter.com/mynameisntdave/status/586761774554292224
22:25:04 <int-e> lambdabot: I almost definitely did not
22:25:31 <int-e> (maybe I should special-case that "command")
22:26:01 <int-e> first word a sequence of punctuation --> ignore
22:26:16 <int-e> need to be carefuly not to catch @@
22:26:58 <lambdabot> help <command>. Ask for help for <command>. Try 'list' for all commands
22:27:03 <lambdabot> ?? executes plugin invocations in its arguments, parentheses can be used.
22:27:03 <lambdabot> The commands are right associative.
22:27:03 <lambdabot> is the same as: ?? (?pl (?undo code))
22:27:14 <lambdabot> @@ executes plugin invocations in its arguments, parentheses can be used.
22:27:14 <lambdabot> The commands are right associative.
22:27:14 <lambdabot> is the same as: @@ (@pl (@undo code))
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22:47:00 <HackEgo> rigoberto: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.)
22:47:32 <HackEgo> rigoberto: welcome.it? ¯\(°_o)/¯
22:47:42 <HackEgo> 5272:2015-03-21 <oerjän> cp bin/{bienvenido,benvenuto}; sed -i \'s/es/it/g\' bin/benvenuto \ 5271:2015-03-21 <oerjän> cp bin/{bienvenido,benvenuto}; sed -i \'s/es/it/\' bin/benvenuto \ 5270:2015-03-21 <oerjän> cp bin/{bienvenido,benvenuto}; sed -i \'s/es/it/\' bin/bienvenuto
22:47:58 <shachaf> oerjan: what's that all about, the dogs now howl
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23:11:43 <HackEgo> funpun//funpuns fceø fbz fryyrev naq pbfcynlf Arcrgn Yrvwba ba jrrxraqf. Ur ungrf oryy crccref jvgu n cnffvba. Gur havg bs sha chaarel vf anzrq nsgre uvz.
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23:18:27 <HackEgo> cube//Cubes come in all sizes, colors, and materials, but only one shape. The companion cube does not speak, however.
23:19:02 <boily> cubes are evil. they tumble on the wrong side.
23:19:07 <HackEgo> intelligence//Intelligence is a scarce resource that is distributed by the CIA.
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23:21:11 <fizzie> boily: Uryybpun, isn't that a pok-é-mon?
23:21:55 <boily> fizziello. we'll have to catch shachaf to know.
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23:33:55 <HackEgo> ghoti//"Ghoti" is a very fishy spelling.
23:34:11 <HackEgo> 1/2:zimbabwe//olsner's desk points zimbabwards. It is highly dependent on tswett's michiganic orientation. \ cocoon//Cocoon was built by the fal'Cie, and floats above Gran Pulse. \ the universe//The universe was invented by Taneb as an opposing force to oerjan. Escardó proved that it was indiscreet. \ //The final frontier. \ monomorphis
23:34:24 <boily> `slwd ghoti//s"^."“"
23:34:26 <HackEgo> ghoti//“Ghoti" is a very fishy spelling.
23:34:39 <HackEgo> 2/2:m//A monomorphism is just an epimorphism in the opposite category.
23:34:42 <boily> `slwd ghoti//si"i”i
23:34:44 <HackEgo> ghoti//“Ghoti” is a very fishy spelling.
23:35:39 <boily> once again I tried today to write a ‘public interface Applicative<...> extends Functor<...>’. didn't work :/
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