< 1487980900 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1487982178 0 :hppavilion2!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1487982312 0 :boily!~alexandre@209.117.93.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1487982320 0 :boily!~alexandre@209.117.93.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KORD < 1487982321 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KORD 250005Z 29006KT 3SM -DZ BR OVC006 04/03 A2953 RMK AO2 DZB04 P0000 T00390028 < 1487982358 0 :hppavilion1!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1487982400 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1487982401 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 250020Z AUTO 20006KT 9999 NCD 05/01 Q1018 NOSIG < 1487982425 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1487982591 0 :boily!~alexandre@209.117.93.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trade shows are exhausting... < 1487982633 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I make a good hex grid? (I mean the lines that form the edge of each cell) < 1487983999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexagon#Parameters < 1487984063 0 :boily!~alexandre@209.117.93.22 QUIT :Quit: PARSING CHICKEN < 1487984444 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: One good way is to make each hexagon have four sides. < 1487984487 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, that's not even a joke is it < 1487984521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much of one < 1487984529 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why I said it. < 1487984538 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also not sure why I capitalized and punctuated it. < 1487984560 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. i actually thought you weren't joking. < 1487984588 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, were you thinking of hexagon-square tiling? < 1487984589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you should actually have _three_ sides. < 1487984617 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, there's no such thing. < 1487984619 0 :gk_-1wm_-!~su@50.118.213.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1487984619 0 :gk_-1wm_-!~su@50.118.213.31 PART #esoteric : < 1487984625 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i was thinking that each side is shared between several hexagons (ok, two), so you could assign it to one of them. < 1487984724 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i'm not sure how much this helps. you probably want to find the larger rectangular grid that all of them sit on < 1487984741 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can tile them on a sphere. < 1487984792 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexagonal_tiling, there are 7 edges in each such rectangular block < 1487984877 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :width 3R, height 2r < 1487984908 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :r = sqrt(3)/2 * R, from the other page < 1487984919 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nuts. < 1487984971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time int-e < 1487984972 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for int-e is Sat Feb 25 02:09:31 2017 < 1487985007 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait no, 6 edges, 1 of them is shared. < 1487986311 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :width/height = 3R/2r = sqrt(3), in fact. < 1487986321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of rectangular grid.) < 1487986337 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 < 1487986339 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/3:496) theorem prover yada yada halting problem. \ 747) i once had a dream when i was told to look after some kittens but they were made of chocolate and i ate them :( \ 70) let's put that in the HackEgo quotes files, just to completely mystify anyone who looks back along them in the future \ 366) Will anyone be irritated if I tend to disconnect and reconnect a lot? [...] we _almost_ have an established policy that bots will be banned it they do that. which means we might have to administer a turing test to sgeo, and that could get ugly. \ 1053) I would like to learn how to use a sword And also how < 1487986378 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1487986379 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/3: to ride a unicycle Perhaps not at the same time < 1487986382 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cf $ sqrt 3 < 1487986386 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,13,13,12,1,1,17... < 1487986390 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That sounds like a pretty bad dream. < 1487986429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let unCf [x] = x; unCf (x:r) = x + 1/unCf r < 1487986431 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1487986440 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the criterion for a hex grid to be called good < 1487986446 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh they were delicious < 1487986468 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unCf . cf $ sqrt 3 < 1487986471 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1487986471 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Ambiguous type variable ‘a0’ arising from a use of ‘show_M281093763716... < 1487986471 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : prevents the constraint ‘(Show a0)’ from being solved. < 1487986477 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :top minds < 1487986479 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map unCf (tail . inits $ cf $ sqrt (3)) :: [Rational] < 1487986482 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1487986482 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • No instance for (Integral Rational) arising from a use of ‘cf’ < 1487986482 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • In the second argument of ‘($)’, namely ‘cf $ sqrt (3)’ < 1487986483 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> tan (pi/6) < 1487986485 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1487986487 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.5773502691896257 < 1487986496 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undef < 1487986496 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined. < 1487986499 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :‮oerjan < 1487986500 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let cf x = f : cf r where f = floor x; r = 1/(x - fromIntegral f) < 1487986503 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1487986514 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot, you're undefined. < 1487986515 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let unCf [x] = x; unCf (x:r) = fromIntegral x + 1/unCf r < 1487986517 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1487986517 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1487986520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undef < 1487986520 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined. < 1487986523 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let cf x = f : cf r where f = floor x; r = 1/(x - fromIntegral f) < 1487986526 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1487986533 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let unCf [x] = fromIntegral x; unCf (x:r) = fromIntegral x + 1/unCf r < 1487986535 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1487986541 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map unCf (tail . inits $ cf $ sqrt (3)) :: [Rational] < 1487986544 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1 % 1,2 % 1,5 % 3,7 % 4,19 % 11,26 % 15,71 % 41,97 % 56,265 % 153,362 % 209... < 1487986595 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those would be good approximate ratios to cheat with < 1487986617 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tan(pi/6) = 1/sqrt(3) is close enough to 1/2 that people have gotten away with things like http://sprunge.us/bdIU) < 1487986643 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well, that _is_ the second approximation :P < 1487986670 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/sqrt 3 * 200/240 -- even better in 320x200 mode < 1487986671 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1487986673 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.4811252243246882 < 1487986706 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric ::0 < 1487986709 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :‮int-e < 1487986711 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you turn what I did by 90 degrees) < 1487986722 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ‮ < 1487986723 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+202E RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE] < 1487986753 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :‮!yeh < 1487986783 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where pi_10 < 1487986784 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(!!3)<$>transpose[show$foldr(\k a->2*10^2^n+a*k`div`(2*k+1))0[1..2^n]|n<-[0..]] < 1487986788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @run @where pi_10 < 1487986791 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "314159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459230781640628... < 1487986792 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: so happy that screen+xterm ignore that one, it sounds annoying. < 1487986804 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where e_10 < 1487986804 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[show(sum$scanl div(100^n)[1..[4..]!!n])!!n|n<-[0..]] < 1487986820 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the [1..[4..]!!n] in e_10 < 1487986838 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1487986840 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehe < 1487986842 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :‫hello < 1487986854 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :‏hooooooole‎eheheheh < 1487986864 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero width joiners‍z < 1487986868 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1487987172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo already makes zero width things < 1487987176 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you're spammy. < 1487987213 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'd appreciate it more if it didn't like normal text to me. < 1487987214 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I thought is to make a array of one hexagon and then tile that in the way which is offset on odd rows. < 1487987249 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, that's almost equivalent to what i'm saying. < 1487987284 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one hexagon can fit entirely within a rectangular grid block, then another is offset. < 1487987400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by... (3/2*R, r), i think. < 1487987428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is just half the width and height of the rectangle. < 1487987506 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could alternatively draw a rectangle with the parts of hexagons that are inside it. < 1487987530 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then tile that normally. < 1487987586 0 :hppavilion2!?@? NICK :hppavilion1 < 1487987588 0 :hppavilion1!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1487987606 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*didn't look like < 1487987665 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1487987710 0 :moony!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1487988021 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1487988053 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/tile.html (only half kidding) < 1487988105 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because it's just an affine transformation away to the real thing) < 1487988197 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why affine and not linear? < 1487988205 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that picture is affine. < 1487988367 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :affine because in computer graphics you usually have a translation component anyway < 1487988396 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The minesweeper game I made it represents all grids in the same way, as two 2D arrays, which is one to map each pixel to a 2D cell coordinate and icon coordinate, and another one to store the contents of the grid (such as which ones are bombs); a fragment program then reads both of these arrays as textures, as well as a third texture containing the icons. < 1487988416 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mouse click function then also reads the first array to determine which cell you clicked on. < 1487988687 0 :kiki`!uid170954@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wqcztojjihkknens JOIN :#esoteric < 1487988832 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1487989003 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1487989611 0 :gk_-1wm!~su@209.73.151.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1487989611 0 :gk_-1wm!~su@209.73.151.42 PART #esoteric : < 1487989907 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, CSS is still difficult. but http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/tile.html now actually also displays a transformed version of the image. < 1487991044 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1487991462 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1487991628 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1487993163 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1487993553 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://snag.gy/e8rPXW.jpg < 1487994057 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I LOVE YOU Streaming-chan < 1487994469 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://snag.gy/5Pv8bl.jpg < 1487994570 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1487995395 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like either of these kind of Magic: the Gathering: Enchant permanent ;; Flash ;; Enchanted permanent has cumulative upkeep {0}. other one is Put X +1/+1 counters on target creature, where X is the number of other cards on the stack. < 1487995682 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added a marqeee to my homepagre < 1487995865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1487996273 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what is your opinion on ? < 1487996293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Is that one of the nonstandard Netscape tags? < 1487996295 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like < 1487996297 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1487996299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lud < 1487996299 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman said 19d 14h 54m 3s ago: "Packt sie an der Muschi" < 1487996309 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman tyvm < 1487996310 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1487996314 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@mossauges-loud < 1487996314 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1d 2h 49m 47s ago: <\oren\> cytheraforming? <-- cythereaforming, i think. < 1487996327 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I'm not a fan of nonstandard tags, but... < 1487996339 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, was for custom mouse cursors, right? < 1487996345 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1487996347 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mice cursor? meese?) < 1487996353 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/ < 1487996367 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see the bar where the text scrolls to the left < 1487996377 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :markmus < 1487996456 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I see it < 1487996471 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a < 1487996478 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Ah < 1487996483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, en:cursor = no:markør) < 1487996525 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Well, it can be implemented with absurd JS I know, but I feel like this might be one of those weird things that can be done with CSS for no discernible reason < 1487996574 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finds google hits for "mossauges", but is somehow still not enlightened < 1487996598 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://examples.quackit.com/css/codes/marquees/ < 1487996598 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Honestly, my opinion boils down to "HTML is a bad idea and XML should never have been used", because makes it clear what you're reading, but I don't think it should be primitive < 1487996620 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that a good web language should have included the ability to define custom tags in the first place < 1487996689 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the #1 thing that upsets me is that HTML was always SGML-like, but only in theory actually SGML ever. < 1487996709 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I know, right‽ < 1487996715 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know and just wanted to fit in < 1487996739 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: So, for *ages* HTML syntax was formally defined as SGML with a particular DTD. < 1487996740 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they put all sorts of junk into HTML and the related stuff, you shouldn't need so much CSS you can just use the HTML and have the client render it for the screen it is on < 1487996759 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody but the W3C validator parsed it with an SGML parser. < 1487996814 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I like having CSS and HTML separate, because stylesheets should be legible < 1487996828 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means that the actual real-world syntax of HTML was basically an undocumented rough shared delusion of what the spec was, without anything firm to back it. < 1487996828 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I to agree it can be separate, but I think CSS is overused < 1487996839 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most thing you should not need styles defined for it < 1487996868 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML5 deals with the problem by completely ignoring SGML and defining a syntax that will actually let you parse real-world HTML. < 1487996878 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: An emergent standard, if you will < 1487996887 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much. < 1487996906 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: your idea was dead the moment commercial companies got on the web. they _demand_ to be able to force style on users. < 1487996960 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :css just was a saner way to that than what they did previously. < 1487996965 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to do that < 1487997234 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use CSS mostly to make my website look like a terminal < 1487997370 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am using CSS mainly to fix the stupid styles and other annoying stuff that other people put on their webpage. < 1487997447 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This can be done using the Stylish extension. Other useful extensions are Grease Monkey, Policeman, and userChrome.js.) < 1487999041 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yfjyoasdfjnfnzqa JOIN :#esoteric < 1487999495 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1487999521 0 :[io]!~iovoid@185.140.54.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1487999521 0 :[io]!~iovoid@185.140.54.17 QUIT :Changing host < 1487999521 0 :[io]!~iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1487999524 0 :Ir0nY!~IronY@unaffiliated/irony JOIN :#esoteric < 1487999536 0 :shikhin_!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1487999656 0 :nortti_!nortti@ayu.smar.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1487999695 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1487999696 0 :b_jonas_!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1487999698 0 :shikhin_!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1487999718 0 :erdic_!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1487999792 0 :Guest6667!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1487999802 0 :Guest6666!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1487999802 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1487999802 0 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1487999802 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1487999802 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1487999806 0 :iovoid!~iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1487999806 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1487999806 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1487999806 0 :sirnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1487999806 0 :IronY!~IronY@unaffiliated/irony QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1487999806 0 :fractal!fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1487999806 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1487999807 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1487999809 0 :erdic_!?@? NICK :erdic < 1487999817 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1487999823 0 :Ir0nY!?@? NICK :IronY < 1487999846 0 :sirnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1487999861 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1487999890 0 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1487999905 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1488000013 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c83-253-244-64.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1488000013 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c83-253-244-64.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Changing host < 1488000013 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1488000236 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1488000292 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1488000303 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shoots \oren\ with a tranquilizer dart >---> < 1488000323 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaa....zzzzzzzzzzz < 1488000569 0 :fractal!fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1488001144 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was this close to beating Mario land no niiiiii < 1488001276 0 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1488001317 0 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1488001330 0 :mrnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1488001348 0 :sirnaysayer!~naysayer@104.244.72.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488001498 0 :mrnaysayer!?@? NICK :sirnaysayer < 1488003516 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1488004083 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Ano sa... < 1488004203 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/iET9fh_UyIQ?t=17m25s < 1488004296 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hikhq < 1488004300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how'z jamz < 1488004318 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doin' pretty okay. < 1488004331 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been a bit of a busy week, but hey. < 1488004334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you doing university nowadays? < 1488004345 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep! < 1488004363 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why it was a busy week; research paper due yesterday that I was working on. < 1488004481 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense. < 1488004496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is your paper about dynamic graph algorithms? < 1488004530 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it was a humanities class. < 1488004574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1488004580 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which humanity was it about? < 1488004588 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAA I hate humanity < 1488004588 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Political science. < 1488004622 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think of political economy? < 1488004643 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a reason I didn't take any humanity: I can't write essays worth a crap < 1488004653 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you read Mark Twain's thing on it? < 1488004703 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yfjyoasdfjnfnzqa QUIT : < 1488004830 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't read Twain's thing on it. < 1488004964 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://www.twainquotes.com/Galaxy/187009a.html hth < 1488005213 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Should I do something with these CHF, or should I just hold onto them in case the USD becomes literally worthless? < 1488005240 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold onto them < 1488005272 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also aqwire some other currencies < 1488005297 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case Le Pen decides to annex switzerland < 1488005318 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Switzerland is one of the worst countries to invade. < 1488005355 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering their entire military strategy is basically to make sure any invader will regret it... < 1488005553 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Euros are going to be effectively reichsmarks by the end of 2019 most likely < 1488005749 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: If you like the idea of having exposure to CHF, why not buy more CHF? < 1488005772 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not made of money, I just happen to have some CHF in my wallet. < 1488005833 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forex is a pretty liquid market so presumably trading costs are low. < 1488005845 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you had just USD would you buy the amount of CHF that you have? < 1488005854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe retail trading costs are not low. < 1488006036 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it was just a joke. < 1488006508 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488006637 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1488007986 0 :nortti_!?@? NICK :nortti < 1488014051 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Jafet < 1488014888 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1488015040 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1488015676 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1488016031 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1488017574 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zfyn47yzeiv3v1.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1488018620 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1488018656 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488018694 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1488019450 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1488021965 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, file:///home/bf3/tile.html is even nicer now. < 1488021971 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, no, not that one... < 1488021986 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/tile.html < 1488024303 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@unaffiliated/bowserinator QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488024311 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@bowserinator.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1488024412 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1488025392 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1488034071 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@bowserinator.tk QUIT :Changing host < 1488034071 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@unaffiliated/bowserinator JOIN :#esoteric < 1488035921 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Reverse14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=51095 5* 03Serprex 5* (+7552) 10Created page with "Most programming languages execute statements in a top-to-bottom fashion. REVERSE takes program flow literally. REVERSE executes statements from top to bottom and from bottom..." < 1488036331 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1488036368 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Rain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51096&oldid=51087 5* 03Serprex 5* (+0) 10Unless time travellllll < 1488037538 0 :kiki`!uid170954@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wqcztojjihkknens QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1488037920 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1488040054 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1488040276 0 :[io]!?@? NICK :iovoid < 1488040338 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1488043462 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:8580:ccd6:2ed2:3fcd JOIN :#esoteric < 1488043751 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:8580:ccd6:2ed2:3fcd QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1488046475 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1488047866 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: *CHIRP* < 1488048192 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1488049069 0 :kiki`!uid170954@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vtwpgcwbnzpciwcn JOIN :#esoteric < 1488051658 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lxmfqmizmczcrgnx QUIT :Quit: EliteBNC free bnc service - http://elitebnc.org - be a part of the Elite! < 1488051779 0 :Lord_of_-!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-odygirjyduelquis JOIN :#esoteric < 1488052715 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-khsukjjsmoyuqbdo QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1488052755 0 :Lord_of_-!?@? NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1488052756 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-rszokezqclvzekps JOIN :#esoteric < 1488052761 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-odygirjyduelquis QUIT :Changing host < 1488052761 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1488052761 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Changing host < 1488052761 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-odygirjyduelquis JOIN :#esoteric < 1488052787 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:8580:ccd6:2ed2:3fcd JOIN :#esoteric < 1488052790 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:8580:ccd6:2ed2:3fcd QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1488052825 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488053141 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1488053368 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488053399 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:8580:ccd6:2ed2:3fcd JOIN :#esoteric < 1488054569 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humorous observation... because SHA-2 defines a family of hash functions SHA-512/x, there is in fact a SHA-512/1 hash function that hashes into *1 bit*. < 1488054589 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Collision, first and second preimage attacks on this are easy to perform [citation needed]. < 1488054664 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you use any number of bits? < 1488054717 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1488054860 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :384 is explicitly banned, going above 511 appears to be meaningless.. < 1488054878 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for 384 you should use SHA-384) < 1488054940 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHA-512/x is done by using initial state values specified by the IV generation function, and truncating the output at x bits. < 1488054991 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IV generation function is: evaluate SHA-512 (except with the initial values xored with 0xa5a5a5a5a5a5a5a5) on the ASCII string "SHA-512/x". < 1488055007 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, there you go. < 1488055016 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess SHA-512/0 is well-defined as well, if meaningless. < 1488055151 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not per the spec. 1≤x<512, x≠384 according to the standard. Alas. < 1488055233 0 :krok_!~krok@static-50-53-174-215.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488055319 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect SHA-512/x where x is much less than 224 is pretty poor for security purposes, though. < 1488055337 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... And below 64 collision get pretty trivial. < 1488055424 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488055507 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1488055520 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1488055544 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you truncate SHA-512 it's presumably no longer vulnerable to the obvious length-extension attack. < 1488055552 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe there are non-obvious things you can do. < 1488055674 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likely. < 1488055704 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like what? < 1488055736 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a fucking clue. < 1488056030 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-vttjqsdkvtytguqu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1488057537 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of animations with OpenGL might be made up with just a fragment program (with a time input program.env[0].x)? < 1488057624 0 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1488057969 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-wzuszkcyryivryeh JOIN :#esoteric < 1488058355 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1488058356 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Client Quit < 1488058373 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1488058480 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-rszokezqclvzekps QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1488058773 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1488058858 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1488059173 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway02.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1488060442 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zfyn47yzeiv3v1.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1488060637 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a tsume shogi game on my computer, level 85 is difficult. < 1488060653 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway02.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1488060662 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then skip to level 86. < 1488060675 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could, but I want to do level 85 before level 86 < 1488060684 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to do tsume shogi game? < 1488060694 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1488060746 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also a time limit, although if you run out of time you can just try again anyways. < 1488060884 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :chess problems, but for shogi. do the objectives vary? < 1488060899 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint-e < 1488060906 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your progress at now? < 1488060924 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :4287 seconds. < 1488060952 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that all? < 1488060953 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tsume go tends to be mostly about determining group status though sometimes you get to make connections) < 1488060969 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is like chess, although there are some differences, such as that you must give check on every turn. < 1488060974 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the video is only about 90 minutes anyway < 1488060986 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which video? < 1488060992 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to hint at the fact that I have not played "The Witness" in the meantime. < 1488060998 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, your own king is normally not present on the board. < 1488061002 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but what's the video? < 1488061031 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :meta-political but in German, https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=Rk6I9gXwack < 1488061051 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently closer to 100 minutes < 1488061065 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately I only know a few words in German. < 1488061073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this speaker is using different words. < 1488061131 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's talking about eigenschaft, which I assume is some linear algebra thing. < 1488061204 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, he's a professor in cognitive sciences, though the talk isn't in that field, and he really makes this accessible to a general educated audience. < 1488061216 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Eigenschaft" is just "property". < 1488061232 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the logical sense) < 1488061244 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ewige Blumenkraft < 1488061245 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I can understand a several words, like Repräsentative Demokratie < 1488061274 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :und Ewige Schlangenkraft? < 1488061298 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heute die Welt, Morgen das Sonnensystem. < 1488061307 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get the point that representative democracy is not a democracy, and actually is not meant to be a democracy at all? < 1488061361 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but maybe I got some of the spirit of it. < 1488061402 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironically you may have the least trouble with the words that require education, like "Hegemonie". < 1488061612 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway02.insomnia247.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1488061742 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The hegemon is the US, of course. "If you look at a map then you'll see how aggressively Russia has approached the US-american bases in Europe, Asia, and Africa." ) < 1488062123 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, never heard of that one. https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-congress/house-bill/2121/text/enr < 1488062581 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:8580:ccd6:2ed2:3fcd QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1488062613 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:8580:ccd6:2ed2:3fcd JOIN :#esoteric < 1488062840 0 :boily!~alexandre@209.117.93.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1488062879 0 :wlp1s1!?@? NICK :inb4 < 1488063214 0 :boily!~alexandre@209.117.93.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1488063218 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nød//Nød is French for vertex. < 1488063219 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:8580:ccd6:2ed2:3fcd QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1488063242 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nødnummer < 1488063243 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nødnummer? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1488064330 0 :inb4!?@? NICK :wlp1s1 < 1488064751 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hqecqgkcystpzyef JOIN :#esoteric < 1488064905 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1488064951 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488065094 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1488065300 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1488065405 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1488066566 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric