00:23:50 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 00:34:50 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:40:28 <\oren\> Nurettin Canikli, a deputy prime ministr,described Europe as a “very sick man”. <-- heh i wonder if he's purposely doing the "obvious" historical reference 00:45:22 seems so 00:56:02 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 01:15:47 A bad (or sick) man. 01:30:15 -!- irrationalist has joined. 01:38:54 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 01:43:32 -!- adu has joined. 01:47:09 -!- adu has quit (Client Quit). 01:49:24 hppavilion[1]: shapr is a male human with an interest in concatenative languages and unicycling 01:49:53 But esoterica? 01:51:48 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:51:57 hppavilion[1]: shachaf knows shapr quite well hth 01:52:49 Do I? 01:53:48 We talked on the phone once. 01:54:18 hey thats at least as well as i know boily 01:54:41 quintopia: hm it sounds like shapr is not easily distinguishable from Taneb 01:55:09 i never talked to Taneb on the phone hth 01:55:10 oerjan: that both have five letter names with "a" in 01:55:29 Also shapr is Swedish from Alabama and Taneb is Dutch from Northumberland 01:55:39 shachaf: well how do you know then that they're not the same 01:55:56 Except I guess shapr isn't Swedish. 01:56:12 @get-shapr 01:56:12 shapr!! 01:56:30 shapr lived in north sweden once 01:57:09 -!- adu has joined. 02:06:59 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 02:09:51 -!- erkin has joined. 02:13:50 -!- Zarutian has joined. 02:15:51 -!- irrationalist has quit (Quit: *.net *.split). 02:28:11 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 02:48:48 [wiki] [[Unlambda]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51369&oldid=51368 * Oerjan * (+19) /* Number I/O */ Remove a Deadfish-specific part 02:50:11 [wiki] [[Unlambda]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51370&oldid=51369 * Oerjan * (-19) /* Number I/O */ Oops, left in a temporary comment 03:00:12 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 03:16:28 -!- adu has joined. 03:17:30 -!- adu has quit (Client Quit). 03:45:36 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 04:06:33 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 04:11:47 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 04:21:39 Gregor is the name of this hot daddy bear that I banged for a while 04:24:33 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 04:53:53 <\oren\> guten morgen 04:54:23 <\oren\> http://www.bmj.com/content/331/7531/1498 05:00:54 -!- Challenger5 has joined. 05:02:11 I want to make a variation of Forth, but with like Lisp's reader macros 05:02:16 so you can define something 05:02:59 so you can define a macro sequence of characters that run some function 05:03:05 -!- Challenger5 has quit (Client Quit). 05:03:36 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 05:03:38 -!- Challenger5 has joined. 05:03:56 test 05:04:22 -!- Challenger5 has quit (Client Quit). 05:05:12 -!- Challenger5 has joined. 05:09:23 How is that working? Can you explain it more? I don't know Lisp so well 05:11:03 I don't really understand how they're implemented, but basically you can bind a certain function to a character, and when the reader encounters that character it will run the function, and the output of that function is whatever that expression is replaced with 05:12:23 For example, `'` is just a macro character that reads an object and replaces it with `(quote object)`, so it's really just syntactic sugar. 05:16:35 The helpful thing there is that it would eliminate the special case the Forth has of numbers: if it can't find a function it will try to parse the word as a number and push it to the stack 05:17:38 Instead of just writing the number, you'd write `#n` and the `#` would be a macro sequence that took the rest of the word and parsed it as a number 05:18:49 So that way you could make nice syntactic sugar like string literals 05:19:02 as well as just getting a huge mass of unreadable characters, which is really what this is about. 05:22:28 i$I^G>NaSr3B/n%o:F/.l!DpDy5{}r+_sFYRfrfySmW:~2" (Hint: I like seedrandom) 05:24:41 xss the log file 05:25:49 I think there are Forth implementations that are capable of this. 05:26:08 What, being an unreadable mass of characters? 05:26:17 Because I'd have to look into that then 05:26:22 No, I mean parsing single characters 05:27:39 I was actually thinking about this language until I realized it was just Forth 05:28:03 So I figured I would add the macro sequences but apparently Forth already took that idea as well? 05:29:32 Even Forth implementations that can't parse single characters will usually havea way to implement a different parser, so that you could do it anyways 05:31:59 I guess that my language isn't that original anymore then. But I shouldn't feel to bad about it, because by that logic any programming language is just a variation on Forth with some extra parsing rules. 05:35:05 On a different note, could someone help me understand how a tag system is Turing complete? Because it makes no sense to me. 05:37:31 Anyways, from what I can tell, Forth is the "make a new stack-based language and whoops - that's just an extension of Forth" sort of thing. 05:53:12 -!- Challenger5 has quit (Quit: Page closed). 06:04:09 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 06:17:40 -!- copumpkin has joined. 06:26:50 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 06:32:24 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 06:58:15 07:06:33 -!- erkin has quit (Quit: Ouch! 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For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) 14:09:23 HackEgo: are you a bot? 14:09:34 we were discussing whether you counted as an esoterician yesterday. 14:09:41 I don't know! 14:10:00 `? HackEgo 14:10:01 HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. HackEgo is the slowest bot in all Mexico! 14:10:34 neat 14:10:59 fungot: say hello to shapr 14:11:00 oerjan: she likes many voices is it?? 14:11:27 markov bot? 14:11:40 ^source 14:11:40 https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 14:11:59 and a few other things. 14:12:40 * oerjan ffj-bot 14:12:42 oops 14:12:57 that was supposed to be a whois 14:13:12 ( 3+3 14:13:12 6 : Integer 14:13:17 hm not that one 14:13:19 [ 2+2 14:13:20 oerjan: 4 14:13:24 there you go. 14:14:11 -!- tromp has quit. 14:14:51 !zjoust pathetic (>)*9([-]>[+]>)*-1 14:14:52 oerjan.pathetic: points -8.67, score 13.09, rank 39/47 (+7) 14:15:17 the hill is all messed up, there's no way i would have got on with that in olden days. 14:16:27 but someone made a program that beat absolutely every competitor every time, which messes up the scoring. 14:17:15 `help 14:17:15 Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch [] " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ 14:18:16 (the competitors that were there when it was entered, that is) 14:18:24 -!- tromp has joined. 14:21:36 hoi tromp, hoe gaat het? 14:21:55 tromp is dutch? 14:22:04 and owns the lambda playground 14:22:11 and wrote one of the zcash implementations 14:22:25 I should learn Dutch 14:22:41 I learned Swedish, but I suggest learning one of the A languages 14:23:05 i know about his lambda calculus and cryptocoin stuff, i just had no idea he was dutch... 14:23:35 Albanian is the hot stuff 14:23:45 I'd guess tromp is a US Citizen by now. 14:27:12 hi, shapr! enjoying my semi-retirement 14:27:32 i'm still a Dutch citizen 14:27:42 looking to move back there 14:42:14 -!- Zarutian has joined. 14:44:03 -!- Zarutian has quit (Client Quit). 14:45:37 tromp: oh that's exciting 14:45:47 tromp: you've retired from coding and finance? 14:46:21 from financial coding 14:46:48 i code for fun now 14:47:01 wow, that's nice 14:50:38 tromp: are you still in the northeast US? I haven't had the chance to meet you. 14:51:37 yes, halfway out on Long Island 14:51:43 you're in Boston? 14:52:09 I'm in Atlanta these days, but I'm planning to spend some time in Boston this summer. 14:53:51 i was in Boston last summer 14:53:54 for the Go congress 14:55:38 Atlantis > Atlanta 14:55:40 ;=P 15:02:12 APic: not by altitude hth 15:06:41 -!- IRCFrEAK has joined. 15:06:44 kkk 15:07:24 -!- IRCFrEAK has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:23:28 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 15:25:29 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 15:41:36 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 15:53:01 -!- augur has joined. 16:08:49 shapr: i believe oerjan was the one who summoned you hth 16:08:50 18:56 @get-shapr 16:09:32 does that do anything outside the channel? 16:09:54 indirectly hth 16:10:07 OKAY 16:10:25 @best-shapr 16:10:25 shapr!! 16:14:41 @greet-shapr 16:14:42 shapr!! 16:14:55 @meet-shapr 16:14:55 shapr!! 16:18:23 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Later). 16:30:32 @meh-shapr 16:30:32 shapr!! 16:35:14 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:51:32 @arbitrary-shapr 16:51:32 Unknown command, try @list 16:52:09 Aw. 16:54:50 The command is get-shapr 16:54:52 @set-shapr 16:54:52 shapr!! 16:57:19 @eat-shapr 16:57:19 shapr!! 16:57:24 -!- keemyb has joined. 16:57:39 @pet-shapr 16:57:39 shapr!! 16:57:51 Maybe shapr doesn't want to be repeatedly gotten like this. 16:59:16 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Diagde * New user account 17:10:51 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 17:19:32 `relcome keemyb 17:19:33 ​keemyb: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) 17:23:14 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 17:30:30 that's it. I'm brainstorming an idea for a new data type. 17:31:22 what about a map that maps other data types to yet other data types 17:31:41 @wet-shapr 17:31:41 shapr!! 17:31:50 @meh-meh 17:31:51 Unknown command, try @list 17:31:55 @list-shapr 17:31:55 Unknown command, try @list 17:31:58 aw 17:32:35 please don't unknown-command 17:33:22 Taneb: Why should you learn Dutch? 17:33:47 shachaf, connect to my roots, you know 17:34:05 Are you a polynomial? 17:34:09 Also I plan to apply for Dutch citizenship soon and I'd feel bad if I was Dutch but didn't speak it 17:34:28 If I were a polynomial I'd be aiming to be a polyglot polynomial 17:34:39 What sort of polynomial has Dutch as one of its roots? 17:34:53 One over a Tulip field 17:35:44 So polynomials are just elements of a free commutative ring, right? 17:37:09 I guess I should learn Dutch too. 17:47:38 -!- h0rsep0wer has joined. 17:47:58 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:48:45 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 17:50:05 shachaf: ik begrijp het niet! 17:50:12 Taneb: you screamt? 17:50:37 shapr was at lunch :-P 17:51:09 `hi shapr 17:51:09 Hi shapr. Hapr. 17:51:38 shapr: Remember that one time we talked on the phone? 17:54:11 shachaf: yes, but that was quite some years ago 17:54:25 It can't have been before 2010. 18:00:47 I know some people who weren't even born in 2010. :-( 18:06:03 There might even be people in here born after 2010! 18:06:16 > product [1..2010] 18:06:20 3490380374904297188514041562858679236982859710215692384413885363149640928606... 18:06:31 > logBase 10 (product [1..2010]) 18:06:36 Infinity 18:06:58 Probably not 18:06:59 > sum [logBase 10 x | x <- [1..2010]] 18:07:03 5768.5428727581075 18:07:32 logarithms are the best 18:08:41 I started coding before some of my coworkers were born. 18:09:07 Has Taneb been born yet? 18:09:19 Taneb: are you born? 18:09:24 I certainly hope s 18:09:25 o 18:09:47 Have you been born again? 18:10:11 I don't feel born 18:10:25 `? taneb 18:10:26 Taneb is not elliott, no matter whom you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, one of which is a Czech woman, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. He sometimes invents without noticing it (see: tanebventions). 18:10:29 hm 18:10:31 `? tanebventions 18:10:32 Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, special relativity, metar, weetoflakes, sand, dragons, persistence, the BBC, _46bit, progress, sanity, the Oxford comma, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: maths. He never invents anything involving sex. 18:10:35 `? shapr 18:10:36 shapr? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 18:10:55 I am anonymouse 18:11:09 `learn shapr is anonymouse. 18:11:12 Learned 'shapr': shapr is anonymouse. 18:11:20 :-) 18:11:35 * APic died once and was revived 18:12:01 does not sound fun 18:12:13 True 18:13:02 APic: are you an advanced programmable interrupt controller? 18:13:59 Yes 18:14:02 Also my Realname 18:14:06 Andreas Pickart 18:14:11 So i am a schizophrenic Cyborg 18:14:12 😎 18:14:25 `? tanebventions: maths 18:14:26 Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, string diagrams, the reals, Lambek's lemma, Curry's paradox, algebraic geometry, locales, and histograms. 18:14:40 `? curry's paradox 18:14:41 If this sentence is true, then Taneb invented Curry's paradox. 18:14:45 `? algebraic geometry 18:14:46 -_- 18:14:46 Algebraic geometry is so complicated that Taneb had to take an exam in it before he could invent it. 18:14:59 Time-Travel ♥ 18:15:08 hm 18:15:08 taneb should stop venting things 18:15:10 `? string diagrams 18:15:11 String diagrams would be useful in category theory, except they're unreadable due to being curled up in tiny dimensions. Taneb invented them anyhow. 18:15:19 APic: hi! My real name is Shae Erisson 18:15:28 `? complex 18:15:29 complex? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 18:15:33 `? complex numbers 18:15:34 complex numbers? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 18:15:37 ... 18:15:42 `? matrices 18:15:43 matrices? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 18:15:46 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 18:15:47 I am known for ... uh, starting #haskell and writing simple.ino in AdaFruit's NeoPixel examples. 18:16:06 I'm not sure if I'm know for anything else. 18:16:13 Unicycling? 18:16:17 ok, that too 18:16:25 and knitting things and putting lights on them 18:16:27 and speaking Swedish 18:16:36 even though I'm from Alabama 18:18:08 shapr: Hi 18:18:32 * APic learned Haskell more than a Year ago, but have almost completely forgotten it again by now 18:18:51 * APic knows the Languages best that he learned as Child/Adolescent 18:19:05 Is #haskell a shaprvention? 18:19:07 BASIC, C, x86 Assembly, C++ 18:19:20 `rot13 shapr 18:19:21 funce 18:19:23 (C++ not really anymore since it got so bloated) 18:19:25 shachaf: nah, it's a community now 18:19:39 more like a scowmmunity 18:20:09 cow? 18:20:12 But i can code in any Language like Perl, Python, Ruby, AWK, Shell, … after a very short While of Preoccupation 18:20:17 scow 18:20:35 But it is most Fun for me to code in Plain C11 18:21:20 meh. 18:21:42 APic: meet brainfuck 18:21:56 Know that one too 18:22:06 You see it on my public .plan 18:22:16 http://apic.name/Plan.html 18:22:28 * APic wants to write an LLVM-Backend for Brainfuck 18:22:38 http://c2bf.SVN.SourceForge.Net/svn 18:22:40 root/brainfuck/c2bf/trunk 18:22:58 ← already very great 18:23:43 http://c2bf.SVN.SourceForge.Net/svnroot/brainfuck/c2bf/trunk ← already very great i meant 18:24:00 Accidentally split it while Pasting 😎 18:44:15 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 18:44:32 hoe AnotherTest, hoe gaat het met jou? 18:49:25 -!- LKoen has joined. 18:53:48 -!- adu has joined. 19:21:08 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:42:29 -!- h0rsep0wer has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:49:14 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 19:52:44 -!- adu has joined. 20:09:30 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 20:17:50 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 20:18:13 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Client Quit). 20:23:07 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfCfTYZJWtI 20:29:34 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 20:32:47 Sgeo_: I gave that as an example of a "real botloop" here. 20:33:16 -!- Zarutian has joined. 20:33:26 -!- tromp has joined. 20:34:17 -!- Zarutian has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:34:19 -!- Zarutian_ has joined. 20:45:17 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:57:41 hi shapr! 20:58:44 hi olsner 20:58:51 any olsnerventions lately? 20:59:56 been working on sedition off-and-on, an optimizing sed to-be-compiler (so far just interpreter though) 21:00:28 it also adds sockets and threads to sed 21:01:36 ##:D and smilebot are also olsnerventions 21:02:04 you have a lot of olsnerve 21:02:21 `? sled 21:02:22 ​`sled // 21:02:22 howdy olsner 21:04:35 shachaf: olsnerve? how so? 21:04:48 unclear 21:07:48 sedition got annoying to work on when I realized my fancy hoopl optimization code was broken 21:10:06 @quote shapr 21:10:07 shapr says: [Regarding Hudak's so-called 'Gentle' introduction] Yeah, the mental brickbat of doom is a bit closer. 21:13:37 `quote shapr 21:13:38 No output. 21:13:41 `? weather 21:13:42 lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK PAMR 21:13:46 CYUL 142100Z 02028G33KT 1/8SM R06L/2400FT/N R06R/2400FT/N SN +BLSN VV003 M08/M10 A2982 RMK SN8 /S06/ PRESFR SLP102 \ ENVA 142050Z 22019KT 9999 FEW028CB SCT042 BKN074 05/M01 Q0990 RMK WIND 670FT 21:13:46 22018G32KT \ ESSB 142050Z 24011KT 9999 FEW021 07/03 Q1004 R30/19//58 \ KOAK 142053Z 29008KT 10SM FEW200 24/13 A3005 RMK AO2 SLP174 T02440128 58008 \ PAMR 142053Z 34018G24KT 10SM CLR M06/M19 A2948 21:13:46 RMK AO2 PK WND 34031/2016 SLP985 T10611189 56014 $ 21:14:05 Warm day today. 21:14:11 . o O ( The trick is to print it on very soft paper. ) 21:15:57 uh oh 21:17:23 @botsnack 21:17:24 :) 21:17:34 I really should do some lambdabot hacking :/ 21:18:31 But somehow there's so little time left between research and games. 21:18:59 I've done too much lambdabot hacking 21:19:37 well you're not one of the current maintainers, so there's a tiny differenc ;-) 21:19:46 (emphasis on "current", obviously) 21:32:05 -!- atslash has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:33:22 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 21:36:42 <\oren\> One of the transport trucks involved in the collision on Highway 401 was carrying a hazardous material that could turn into hydrofluoric acid if exposed to heat, 21:36:47 <\oren\> "The transport was carrying 14,000 litres of the liquid, most of which has leaked, the report said" 21:36:52 <\oren\> what's the blast radius of 14 tons of hydrofluoric acid? 21:38:59 Not much; HFl doesn't explode. 21:39:26 It's profoundly dangerous, but in a different way. 21:40:24 good-bye lungs 21:40:47 <\oren\> I hope being 300 km from the spill is enough 21:40:55 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: rebootoo). 21:41:17 <\oren\> but it's probably going to go into the lake, so... 21:41:30 <\oren\> they won't need to fluoridate our water anymore 21:41:54 <\oren\> ("the lake" being Lake Ontario btw) 21:42:59 -!- FreeFull has joined. 21:46:00 -!- tromp has joined. 21:47:17 (I was thinking of HF as a gas, not as a solution in water. The latter is also nasty though. http://patientsafetyauthority.org/ADVISORIES/AdvisoryLibrary/2006/Jun3(2)/Pages/11.aspx is interesting but also potentially disturbing.) 21:50:23 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:54:14 looks like HF was the subject of the very first "things I won't work with" post, http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2004/03/03/things_i_wont_touch_1 22:08:38 <\oren\> ok apparently it's a refrigerant that breaks down into HF when heated 22:10:37 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 22:16:59 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 22:52:42 -!- Riviera has joined. 23:00:59 -!- Zarutian_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 23:15:36 -!- tromp has joined. 23:24:15 -!- boily has joined. 23:24:17 @metar CYUL 23:24:18 CYUL 142315Z 02021G31KT 1/8SM R06L/1600FT/N R06R/1400V2600FT/U +SN +BLSN VV002 M08/M10 A2968 RMK SN8 SLP055 23:24:29 +SN! +BLSN! 23:25:59 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:29:16 @metar EGLL 23:29:16 EGLL 142320Z AUTO 26006KT 9999 NCD 10/09 Q1033 TEMPO BKN008 23:29:28 @metar EFHK 23:29:29 EFHK 142320Z 20019KT 4500 -RASN BKN004 02/01 Q0999 TEMPO 2000 23:29:44 Bhrr, that's going to be a downgrade. 23:31:40 fizziello. going back home? 23:41:43 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 23:44:21 hppavellon[1]. are you snowed too, in your Faraway Lands? 23:47:47 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Charliefoxtrot * New user account 23:55:52 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 23:57:00 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 23:58:08 -!- oerjan has joined. 23:59:06 @metar ENVA 23:59:07 ENVA 142350Z 26025KT 9999 SHRA SCT016CB BKN023 04/02 Q0991 RMK WIND 670FT 24015KT 23:59:37 bonsœirjan. 23:59:39 @metar KOAK 23:59:40 KOAK 142353Z 30009KT 10SM FEW200 24/12 A3002 RMK AO2 SLP166 T02440122 10256 20183 56008 23:59:47 that's more like it hth