< 1489536062 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bood utc midnily. < 1489536101 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION got soaked by this stupid weather < 1489536134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51371&oldid=51358 5* 03Charliefoxtrot 5* (+198) 10 < 1489536163 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Evil14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51372&oldid=47260 5* 03Charliefoxtrot 5* (+653) 10Added quine < 1489536267 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :slush storms are the worst. < 1489536386 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose technically fire storms are worse. < 1489536544 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there such a thing as slushy fire? < 1489536569 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not with water slush, i suspect < 1489536576 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe lava slush will work. < 1489536626 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Just for a visit. < 1489537123 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1489537230 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489537354 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1489537369 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shapr: if you are free another sunday, ill take you up on the offer to talk my ear off about testing. ill buy lunch. < 1489537420 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if youre free another sunday.... :D < 1489537501 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1489537534 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( who is this shapr person again? ) < 1489537605 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1489537607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your buddha oerjan is a lazy expert in mercury computation. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience; but lately it's the only word he can ever remember. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1489537618 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: at least you weren't soake in hydrofluoric acid < 1489537640 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gragh, what's the command to sed wisdom/oerjan again? < 1489537642 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1489537701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` slwd oerjan 's/buddha oerjan/omnipotent local tyrant oerjan the excessive/' < 1489537702 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: sled file//script < 1489537714 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` slwd oerjan//s/buddha oerjan/omnipotent local tyrant oerjan the excessive/ < 1489537715 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/sed: -e expression #1, char 8: unterminated `s' command < 1489537720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1489537738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? How is that unterminated? < 1489537741 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: YOU are excessive < 1489537745 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I am. < 1489537751 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's a ZORK! reference hth. < 1489537803 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm curious < 1489537810 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat test < 1489537810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum < 1489537825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled test//s/buddha oerjan/omnipotent local tyrant oerjan the excessive/ < 1489537826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test//hum < 1489537840 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1489537849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it doesn't use `` < 1489537861 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh yeah, I forgot. < 1489537895 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :half the point of it is to _not_ have to escape regexps, which `` would defy. < 1489537916 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s/buddha oerjan/omnipotent local tyrant oerjan the excessive/ < 1489537918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan//Your omnipotent local tyrant oerjan the excessive is a lazy expert in mercury computation. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience; but lately it's the only word he can ever remember. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1489537946 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm sure there's a better title than "excessive", but that's what it is in ZORK!. I imagine it'll now constantly change) < 1489537969 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, now I'm trying to mod ksp < 1489538156 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :Happy π day | The exact ray tracing channel | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | For extensive phở testing, use #esoteric-blah < 1489538279 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's already over here hth < 1489538288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :Happy π day to those living under the 2-norm | The exact ray tracing channel | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | For extensive phở testing, use #esoteric-blah < 1489538299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, true < 1489538345 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Manhattan, π day is instead --03-31 (approximating --04-00) < 1489538369 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...waht < 1489538425 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You know the various p-norms, yes? < 1489538455 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A circle is the set of all points equidistant from some center point (equidistant being the radius) < 1489538508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you use something other than the 2-norm (euclidean distance) as your definition of distance, you get different shapes, and if you use that same norm to then measure the circumference and divide it by the diameter (2 if you go with the unit circle), you get different values for different norms < 1489538553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you could say they're different values of π under different norms (or different circles). In Manhattan distance (1-norm, taxicab distance, whatever), π = 4 < 1489538616 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1489538617 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :internationale//You have been reported to the House Un-American Activities Committee. < 1489538638 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? colour < 1489538640 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14C03o06lour is 10a 02p04henomenoun 10fr07oum13 ou11t03e11ur 13s02p04acue 13de03sign02e13ud11 t10o13 d04ri08v02ue 10h12um06an04i02tuy i14ns09a04nue an14d 11bri13nug f13or08tuh t02he n10ew05 12age14 of Cth11u09l10hu. < 1489538647 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? color < 1489538648 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14C03o06lor is 10a 02p04henomenon 10fr07om13 ou11t03e11r 13s02p04ace 13de03sign02e13d11 t10o13 d04ri08v02e 10h12um06an04i02ty i14ns09a04ne an14d 11bri13ng f13or08th t02he n10ew05 12age14 of Cth11u09l10hu. < 1489538736 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? z < 1489538737 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :colour is the proper spelling. < 1489538737 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :z? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1489538750 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have tickets to John Cleese on thursday < 1489538753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zed < 1489538754 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zed? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1489538836 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn zed is the 26th letter of the alphabet in Commonwealth English. Why they consider what is clearly a 3-letter string to be a single letter is unclear. < 1489538839 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'zed': zed is the 26th letter of the alphabet in Commonwealth English. Why they consider what is clearly a 3-letter string to be a single letter is unclear. < 1489538848 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[nobody mention the Dutch's weird 'ij' fetish] < 1489539287 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd zed//s/./Z/ < 1489539289 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zed//Zed is the 26th letter of the alphabet in Commonwealth English. Why they consider what is clearly a 3-letter string to be a single letter is unclear. < 1489539861 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1489541278 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: shapr has been at #esoteric since forever, but not often < 1489541325 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489541985 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote shapr < 1489541986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1489542007 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :must've been quite the forever, to not even be recorded through History. < 1489542123 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonnuitopia! < 1489542132 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: HOMING CHICKEN < 1489542322 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489542505 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1489542689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hitler < 1489542690 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :20) IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): So kann ich nur schliessen, dass es falsch ist, oder die Welt ist vollig BONKERS. Gegrusset seist du der Fuhrer Hitler! \ 277) Oh, Hitler! You and your wacky antics! \ 538) OMG What if we shoot Hitler with neutrinos < 1489542700 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why did I expect that to come up empty? < 1489542760 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Gandhi < 1489542761 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1489542774 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :see. Hitler is more famous than Ghandi < 1489542789 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ...wait, yeah, that wasn't a question < 1489542796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That's not even a joke, he just is. < 1489542843 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if you were looking for a search to come up empty, you probably shouldn't search someone so famous! < 1489542869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I forgot that it includes the text of the message < 1489543005 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote wittgenstein < 1489543006 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1489543032 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote nietsche < 1489543033 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1489543045 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1489543050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote nietzsche < 1489543051 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :998) oerjan is spreading the tired rumour that if you play Nietzsche backwards you hear Jewish messages. < 1489543059 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1489543087 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Echsztein isn't valid Hebrew iirc < 1489543102 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds more German, or maybe Yiddish. < 1489543117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I've never taken or even heard Hebrew in my entire life other than as background gargle on maybe Supernatural < 1489543129 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the famous russian physicist Nietsnie < 1489543155 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Hm, which language uses 'sz' a lot? < 1489543166 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :polish, hungarian < 1489543175 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :german < 1489543229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm does dutch < 1489543230 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently German at one point; the double s is a ligature of S and Z originally. < 1489543277 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ah, well yeß. < 1489543511 0 :omegasome!~uncountab@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489543542 0 :omegasome!~uncountab@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1489543552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...everybody ignore that guy^ < 1489543565 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Strictly, it's an ſz ligature iirc < 1489543570 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1489543590 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: obvious satanist and in the wrong channel < 1489543600 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hm? < 1489543609 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many satanists are here. < 1489543621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: omegasome < 1489543635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: LaVeyan? Probably a couple. < 1489543637 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes. < 1489543641 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with having satanists here < 1489543643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Obvious satanist. < 1489543652 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Who said there was??? < 1489543665 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PH'NGLUI MGLW'NAFH CTHULHU R'LYE- sorry, something in my throat. < 1489543673 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: That was my assumption. There aren't that many satanists who aren't LaVeyan or clearly informed by him. < 1489543676 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well they're summoning demons < 1489543698 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also okay, as long as no summoning succeeds < 1489543725 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell if I'm being called a satanist at the moment < 1489543830 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't tell if your jokemeter is miscalibrated < 1489543855 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well I know that this is all a joke, I just don't know whether I'm a satanist in it < 1489543904 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, are you a satanist? < 1489543919 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh, no, definitely not < 1489543929 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a Cthylla Cultist < 1489544418 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1489544853 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1489544913 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, pi day is also einstein's birthday < 1489545237 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat. < 1489546109 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489546820 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489548525 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2 quote hitler < 1489548526 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:ith neutrinos \ 959) i don't think hitler made any bf derivatives \ 982) hm hitler probably did one thing that I like too he banned tubas, I guess I am neutral on tubas oh! he killed hitler oh yeah, there we go thanks Fiora he also killed the guy who killed hitler < 1489549193 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made three new parts for KSP < 1489549199 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://snag.gy/pHMQK4.jpg < 1489549202 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The GNR-KM Long-Mission RTG is powered by Kerbicium, which isn't found anywhere in nature. It outputs a small amount of electricity, but will last a lot longer, we're told. It's blue, too! < 1489549208 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The GNR-PO High-Power RTG is powered by polarium, found on the moon Pol and also in the dirt we dug up when we planted the space centre's flag pole. It outputs a lot of electricity and is definitely not just a normal RTG painted red. < 1489549212 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The GNR-BP Low-Cost RTG is powered by Boppium, a common isotope found in waste from recycled LV-N rocket motors. It's significantly cheaper than other RTGs. It lacks both power and longevity though. < 1489549641 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1489549644 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nitium < 1489555390 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98e0:694:cdb7:7803:d0e4:a36d QUIT :Excess Flood < 1489555433 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98e0:694:9596:8799:e7d7:2dec JOIN :#esoteric < 1489555570 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489559196 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489559220 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489559270 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Antixk 5* 10New user account < 1489559482 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489565791 0 :veyd!b98913f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.137.19.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489565801 0 :veyd!b98913f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.137.19.248 PART #esoteric : < 1489568058 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zf05alv55zswmi.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1489569841 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zf05alv55zswmi.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1489570055 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489570138 0 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@icon-thinkpad.wireless.rit.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1489570138 0 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@icon-thinkpad.wireless.rit.edu QUIT :Client Quit < 1489570367 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1489571107 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489574008 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c83-253-248-247.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1489574008 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c83-253-248-247.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Changing host < 1489574008 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1489574020 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489574037 0 :Guest9965!~Vorpal@c83-253-248-247.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1489574107 0 :Guest9965!~Vorpal@c83-253-248-247.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Changing host < 1489574107 0 :Guest9965!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1489574158 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489574240 0 :Guest9965!?@? NICK :Vorpal < 1489574375 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1489574406 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellorpal! < 1489574508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is now playing: Bob Dylan - The Times They Are A Changin' < 1489574514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love that button < 1489574522 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is now playing: Bob Dylan - The Times They Are A Changin' < 1489574526 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there we go < 1489574529 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/winamp does that < 1489574588 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles hppavilion[1] in the plugin parts < 1489574632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Are you sure about that? < 1489574633 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE < 1489574634 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION throws down a smokebomb < 1489574634 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dives out the nearest window < 1489574634 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PART #esoteric :"HRII'FHALMA MNAHN'K'YARNAK NGAH NILGH'RI'BTHNKNYTH" < 1489574639 0 :thenewguy!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489574645 0 :thenewguy!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...apparently this nick is registered. < 1489574646 0 :thenewguy!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knew? < 1489574650 0 :thenewguy!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1489574847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have a CTCP reply WA that allows you to ask arbitrarily what I'm listening to (replying via privmsg) AND a ctcp WA_NEXT to make me change when I have bad taste < 1489574847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1489574905 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KLAN < 1489574906 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KLAN 150953Z 31011KT 10SM CLR M09/M14 A3018 RMK AO2 SLP234 T10941144 < 1489574924 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-9 °C to defenestrate oneself? you're courageous! < 1489575015 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ...OK, where's KLAN? < 1489575034 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to guess it's the racist airport? < 1489575035 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`icao KLAN < 1489575036 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Capital City (LAN, KLAN) < 1489575045 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's useful. < 1489575075 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's in Lansing. < 1489575076 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Lansing, MI < 1489575098 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm waiting for people to abuse CTCP HPPAVILION[1] WA_NEXT < 1489575102 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know for a fact it's gonna happen. < 1489575181 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. seems to work < 1489575188 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Also, just play WA < 1489575195 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah! < 1489575201 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It blocked boily for ctcp floording < 1489575210 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aurgh! :D < 1489575244 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think I just permanently unignored you? < 1489575251 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works if I semi-flood. also, you have a weird playlist. < 1489575268 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ...NO I DON'T. < 1489575271 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is now playing: Chromatik - Trumpet in Bb, Cornet in Bb, Flugelhorn - 99 Red Balloons - Nena Sheet Music, Chords, and Vocals < 1489575274 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a love hate relationship with Ubuntu LTS. On one hand I don't have to do a major update as often. On the other hand, they feel less stable than normal releases as of late. < 1489575300 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm shocked that there's a Flugelhorn rendition of 99 luftballons at all.. < 1489575306 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\.\././ < 1489575336 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: haven't had any major problems with mine, but I think I get how you feel. it just feels... less? < 1489575387 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well, I have an old core 2 duo laptop with intel graphics and intel wifi. Until the most recent LTS it worked perfectly. Now suspend & resume is kind of broken. And the screensaver too. < 1489575399 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get double screensavers while running MATE apparently < 1489575412 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I get two password unlock dialogs < 1489575444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Same password? < 1489575447 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's called 2FA < 1489575453 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah, yeah same password < 1489575456 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the suspend resume issues are worse though. On resume, sometimes the wifi doesn't scan properly, so it doesn't detect any network. Forcing a scan via the command line as root fixes it. < 1489575504 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The worse issue is that the graphics in some programs such as chrome and steam (but not firefox) breaks and starts to flicker diagonally after resume. Rebooting or restarting X11 fixes that < 1489575547 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why do I have steam on this? It isn't good enough to game. True, but I can still do other stuff, such as activate codes or whatever from it) < 1489575666 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hm, considering migrating cfunge from bzr. Any suggestions? Either hg (bitbucket hosting) or git (github) I think. I'm way more used to hg (use it at work), but it feels like it isn't very popular these days. < 1489575671 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :core 2 duo desktop with an old nvidia card somewhere. I have never seen suspend working. < 1489575682 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well this is a laptop, an old thinkpad < 1489575694 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it kind of matters more. If it was a desktop I wouldn't care < 1489575709 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think my desktop suspends properly under Windows even. < 1489575720 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I have here, an old secondhand machine. it supports windows 7! < 1489575743 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1489575787 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I can't figure out which programs triggers the graphics glitch. It appears that it isn't stuff using opengl to render or some such simple thing, since glxgears doesn't have that issue < 1489575809 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any issues with libreoffice? weird pink rectangles? < 1489575822 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I have that installed < 1489575839 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I recently rebooted, so I don't have the issue right now < 1489575878 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I have it installed, and I remember writing a letter in it a couple of weeks ago (LaTeX felt overkill for that). So probably not? < 1489575908 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is that an issue you have? < 1489576049 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had that a few years ago on my ancient thinkpad when in university. < 1489576127 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably need a new laptop soon. Any recommendations? Need a trackpoint and a matte screen. 16:10 monitor would be great, but I don't have high hopes. < 1489576135 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that leave me with only thinkpads? < 1489576161 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might go for non-intel graphics this time around though. Needs to work with linux of course < 1489576221 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ^ < 1489576267 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://system76.com/ ← I have their Galago. < 1489576277 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, a previous generation of galago.) < 1489576278 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is now playing: Wishful Thinking - Hiroshima < 1489576283 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^a good one < 1489576285 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1489576302 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^s/\^*/^/ < 1489576314 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do they ship to EU? < 1489576315 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Don't really have any suggestions, though bitbucket does git as well. I'm not too keen on the web experiences of either Bitbucket or Github, but they both get the job done. < 1489576321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^s/\*/+/ < 1489576326 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: eh, maybe? lemme check. < 1489576343 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that page makes my old thinkpad swap heavily < 1489576404 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://system76.com/shipping < 1489576445 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have you filed as "Sweden?" in the The File. do you per chance have more precise geographic coördinates and body weigh? < 1489576476 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Sweden is close enough. I value my privacy < 1489576500 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah looks like they ship there < 1489576587 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"System76 manufactures US keyboard layouts on all laptops. You can choose your own language and software-based layout during the first time-user setup. Keyboard stickers may be used to adjust to your specific language." < 1489576596 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: argh no. Your enter key is the wrong size < 1489576600 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not going to happen < 1489576616 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also stickers will wear out quickly < 1489576646 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I worn out molded keys after all. A sticker wouldn't stand a chance < 1489576676 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also UPS shipping? Ouch. That is the shipping company from hell. At least over here in Sweden. < 1489576713 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hell here too. I think I ranted about them quite a few times on this channel. < 1489576731 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that, or PDFs. another TLA from hell.) < 1489576737 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: DHL or the national postal service are far preferable. < 1489576791 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what does PDF has to do with it? Isn't it just a subset of postscript? < 1489576816 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is then encoded as binary < 1489576820 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a subset of a superset of postscript < 1489576823 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to human readable < 1489576827 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh okay < 1489576848 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Well I guess that makes sense. PDF has features that doesn't make send in PS. Like bookmarks and links. < 1489576853 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought one of those "XMG" laptops from https://www.mysn.de/ once, mostly because you could customize what you get. Though I'm not unequivocally happy in retrospect. < 1489576861 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh? < 1489576866 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was wrong with it? < 1489576904 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor battery life, noisy fans. Weighs a lot, especially with a gigantic power brick. < 1489576918 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was more of a desktop replacement than a laptop, really. < 1489576945 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1489576952 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes those would all be issues for me < 1489576983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION contemplates opening the first seal < 1489576990 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking to start studying again this fall. So I need a replacement for this 15" thinkpad that is not so outclassed by my phone. < 1489577010 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :My work laptop's a Thinkpad Carbon X1, it's not too bad. < 1489577019 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how is the keyboard? < 1489577026 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They keep coming up with new versions of it, I think they're up to v5 now. < 1489577043 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't mind a thinner laptop. This one has the USB ports vertically on the side. < 1489577085 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It keeps getting categorized as "ultraportable", although that's probably a rather meaningless word. < 1489577095 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :v5 has c´ < 1489577105 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :...gone partially USB-C. < 1489577110 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can you replace components, like the memory or the HDD in it? < 1489577121 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is a netbook I would expect no < 1489577136 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think "netbooks" really are a thing any more. < 1489577140 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that is expensive. Almost 2 grand < 1489577157 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :in USD < 1489577205 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well okay there seems to be like 15 variants of it, ranging from 1k USD to >2k USD < 1489577211 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing you can likely replace at least the storage, not so sure about the RAM. Probably not that. < 1489577238 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: STORY CHICKEN < 1489577250 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't think I can really recommend it from a worth-the-price perspective, seeing as I didn't actually buy one. < 1489577257 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1489577259 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if someone gives you one I'd take it. < 1489577282 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :how large is the screen on that thing? < 1489577310 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a 14" screen or something. < 1489577331 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489577346 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm so smaller than my current one < 1489577352 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like the 15" form factor < 1489577363 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got the 2560x1440 variant, which is a little awkward when plugged into an external monitor as well, thanks to Linux not being so great on monitors that have different DPIs. < 1489577427 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: windows sucks at it too. At least windows 7 < 1489577589 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489577690 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like this doesn't look too bad: https://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?e=3408631 < 1489577701 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you can read Swedish right? < 1489577711 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't really need the DVD drive though < 1489577936 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it with the two factor code, that when you open the app there is almost always like 5 seconds left before the codes refresh, so you have to wait to have any chance of submitting the code in time. < 1489577968 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would be more likely to be uniformly distributed over the 30 second interval < 1489578080 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbiab < 1489578513 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone told me there's usually a bit of a grace period so you can still use the first one. Assuming you can manage to type it in. < 1489578542 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I usually just wait patiently.) < 1489578590 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1489578591 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 151120Z AUTO 28004KT 200V360 9999 NCD 13/09 Q1034 NOSIG < 1489578607 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure doesn't feel like 13 degrees in the sun. < 1489578707 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zf05alv55zswmi.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1489580226 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489581165 0 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1489581883 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489582166 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1489582345 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489582969 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :agner's notes on skylake: The processor turns off the upper half of the 256-bit execution engine when it is not used, in order to save power. Instructions with 256-bit vectors have a throughput that is approximately 4.5 times slower than normal during an initial warm-up period of approximately 56,000 clock cycles or 14 μs. < 1489583013 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have any power-aware esolangs yet < 1489583051 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. warm-up... < 1489583062 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether that's to be taken literally :) < 1489583092 0 :_11!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I didn't know that < 1489583105 0 :_11!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders about some inline assembly in a Rust program of theirs < 1489583205 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: "approximately 56,000 clock cycles or 14 μs", man processors are faaast these days < 1489583248 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also how soon after you stop using those instructions does it turn them off? < 1489583270 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :_11, I once managed to get close to inline assembly in Agda, I'm sure you can manage < 1489583274 0 :_11!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: man, they are < 1489583288 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could find out, if I had a skylake < 1489583304 0 :_11!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: erm, I was wondering whether my program was affected by that slower throughput < 1489583326 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, sorry, didn't see context < 1489583744 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an Inline::ASM Perl module. < 1489583765 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only done Inline::C, which was already ridiculous enough. < 1489583955 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: gcc? < 1489583976 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets silly yes, having to try to tell the compiler what registers you are messing with, and all that < 1489584007 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the syntax for that in gcc is silly complicated. Why not it slightly less compact and 10 times more readable < 1489584113 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc should really just provide more builtins so that you can write all your assembly in C < 1489584114 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the impression the syntax evolved from GCC internals (in particular the machine description language), not from a principled attempt at designing an inline asm syntax. < 1489584138 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I looked up that agner thingy. Really cool, but how on earth did he figure this out? < 1489584174 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets silly these days when you have to pick registers in an asm block in order to tell the cpu what your data flow graph is so that it can rename all those registers internally < 1489584176 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that would make a certain amount of sense < 1489584228 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: sure, but does Intel & AMD make all this information public somewhere, or how does he know? < 1489584234 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: from debugging the unexpected results of his benchmarks, presumably < 1489584242 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm okay < 1489584352 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :agner is one of those professional cpu archaeologists who spend all their time studying undocumented computing artifacts from alien cultures, like haswell CPUs < 1489584414 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the help of priestly texts written in a shroud of secrecy, like the official intel manuals < 1489584433 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo p. esoteric < 1489584504 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly sometimes even exothermic, if you get it wrong. < 1489584737 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: what do you have against haswell? < 1489584924 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just an example of an architecture whose internal workings are largely secret (which, these days, is all of them) < 1489585020 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1489585955 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1489586261 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ulplbmiyusmuagwq QUIT :Excess Flood < 1489586517 0 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1489586519 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-iawuzdwjwmbzsggw JOIN :#esoteric < 1489586646 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1489587065 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1489587753 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1489588519 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489588671 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1489588976 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kzwedmbytcgyeqac JOIN :#esoteric < 1489589183 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489589622 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489590039 0 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489590061 0 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489591217 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1489591408 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1489591797 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1489591814 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1489592099 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1489592148 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1489592911 0 :L3viathan!~L3viathan@l3vi.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489592919 0 :L3viathan!~L3viathan@l3vi.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1489592942 0 :L3viathan!?@? NICK :Guest79171 < 1489593288 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1489593417 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1489593600 0 :kiki`!uid170954@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqevxbyahkzgqlzz JOIN :#esoteric < 1489594089 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1489594317 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489594745 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep KLAN share/air* < 1489594746 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3544,"Capital City","Lansing","United States","LAN","KLAN",42.7787,-84.587357,861,-5,"A","America/New_York" < 1489594804 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep ENVA share/air* < 1489594804 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :665,"Vaernes","Trondheim","Norway","TRD","ENVA",63.457556,10.92425,56,1,"E","Europe/Oslo" < 1489595123 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Trump ‘true friend of Muslims,’ Saudi prince says after meeting" < 1489595126 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOW < 1489595132 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lololololololololololololololol < 1489595144 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people know everything about sucking up < 1489595222 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, for some reason Saudi Arabia wasn't included in Trump's travel ban... < 1489595433 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the onion isn't fake enough anymore < 1489595494 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's next? "Geert Wilders is a true friend of the Moroccan people, says Moroccan Imam" < 1489595507 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Onion shuts down as they're unable to compete with the real world ) < 1489596278 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489596765 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 56000/14 microseconds < 1489596776 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/250 (exactly 0.004) s (time) < 1489596787 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum < 1489596823 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 56000/(14 microseconds) < 1489596827 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4000000000 s^-1 (frequency) < 1489596915 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`units 56000/(14 microseconds) < 1489596916 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ Definition: 4e+09 / s < 1489597926 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1068 < 1489597927 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1068: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1489598286 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489599482 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's hope they find his sword, at least. < 1489599748 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489601328 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489602015 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I watched this Portal video which showed a three portal gun which could clone things (something goes in blue, comes out orange and red). Imagine if a piece of esoteric hardware could take advantage of this. < 1489602024 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be any different from normal hardware, though? < 1489602031 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't imagine it would be different. < 1489603129 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : let's hope they find his sword, at least. <-- ??? what is this in reference to? I don't think I have anyone on ignore in here, so where there no context? < 1489603142 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :were* < 1489603240 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the olist hth < 1489603258 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: still blanking on that one < 1489603278 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's two lines above hth < 1489603290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? olist < 1489603291 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist is update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ootslatest.html < 1489603298 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1489603313 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one < 1489603351 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: strange notification system. No RSS? < 1489603395 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's traditional hth < 1489603425 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, so it doesn't have to make sense then :D < 1489603594 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-iawuzdwjwmbzsggw QUIT :Excess Flood < 1489603679 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lcfllgitqyytqmau JOIN :#esoteric < 1489604085 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07HI9+14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=51373 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+978) 10In order to help fellow esolangers prove that their new esolangs can quine, I have designed this Turing-incomplete masterpiece. < 1489604163 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Rdococ14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51374&oldid=51339 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+130) 10/* My hopefully better esoteric languages (2017 CE - infinity CE) */ < 1489604349 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: actually there are several other interpreters supporting quines, e.g. the one with source code "Hello, world!Hello, world!" hth < 1489604366 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm or wait < 1489604380 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a quine should not take input. so only the _empty_ source works. < 1489604396 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sad trombone* < 1489604413 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're misinterpreting it :/ < 1489604433 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is that implementing HI9+ in a languages requires the code required to produce a quine. < 1489604434 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait. < 1489604441 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/languages/language < 1489604457 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( cat $0 ) < 1489604462 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was not the case in HQ9+, hence my construction of HI9+. < 1489604470 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the first two letters spell hi :P < 1489604473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: yes, but my "Hello, world!Hello, world!" example still works. < 1489604478 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1489604495 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ? < 1489604498 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if that's your interpreter < 1489604502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1489604512 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION confuses himself < 1489604518 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :What language is this source code, "Hello, world!Hello, world!", written in? < 1489604528 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :That apparently interprets HQ9+? < 1489604536 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe rdococ may have stumbled on a novel idea here. < 1489604540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't actually matter. < 1489604547 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stumbled and tripped on a novel idea. < 1489604564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's novel, i'm just not sure it completely proves the language is capable of quining. < 1489604569 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489604605 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably doesn't because you can use all the ways that are typically considered cheating, like that "cat $0" idea. < 1489604617 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You're probably right - I think it's something to do with causing an arbitrary effect at an arbitrary point. < 1489604629 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there joybot on this channel? < 1489604648 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if a language cannot produce any output before receiving any input, which is a more plausible (esoteric) idea. < 1489604669 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine a language with only one command, K, that only prints its source code if the input given is I, for example. < 1489604691 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't cause the effect (quining) at an arbitrary point; at least, not if the input isn't I. < 1489604699 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION 's imagining breaks < 1489604734 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shapr: i don't recall having joy. we have underload and J though >:) < 1489604769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(underload is the turing tarpit version of joy) < 1489604778 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc I like J < 1489604786 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (:aSS):aSS < 1489604786 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:aSS):aSS < 1489604795 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, "I can't remember exactly what J is, but if it's what I think it is then I like it." < 1489604808 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 1 2 3 + 4 5 6 < 1489604809 0 :ffj-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 5 7 9 < 1489604865 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 1 < 1489604866 0 :ffj-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: 1 < 1489604869 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tada, quine. < 1489604871 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1489604900 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think constant-printing REPL commands are usually excluded. < 1489604905 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinetopia! < 1489604905 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1489604946 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know enough J to do a quine, anyhow. < 1489604947 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I just had another terrible idea! < 1489604949 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRP with Cortana. < 1489604972 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or Siri. Heck, maybe Cleverbot.) < 1489604998 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or Alexis. Why did I think Cortana anyway?) < 1489605014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1489605126 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I feel like GHOST could be turned into something more interesting? < 1489605235 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1489605280 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1489605352 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489605590 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489605604 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, does #esoteric have ops? < 1489605631 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering, since the founder is set to freenode-staff < 1489605644 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does founder-ness need to be recovered on this channel? < 1489605689 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/mode +oerjan < 1489605697 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dc <<<121272482149097494073462794d110376905358396dPrn100PnP < 1489605698 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc <<<121272482149097494073462794d110376905358396dPrn100PnP < 1489605734 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489605741 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok, just checking < 1489605764 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489605783 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, /quote chanserv access #esoteric list < 1489605807 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't have an RSS reader. hth < 1489605824 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or /msg chanserv for us non-fancy people. < 1489605849 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory, /quote chanserv protects against absence of services < 1489605871 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and somebody taking the nick.) < 1489605886 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that's true. IRC is kind of scow. < 1489605908 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :coi int-e < 1489605910 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know whether the freenode servers even have a problem there. < 1489605931 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :do mo < 1489605945 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't really matter for access list, anyway. < 1489605959 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1489605960 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :xu do tavla mi bau la lojban < 1489605974 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is this only esoteric programming languages? < 1489605975 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could create an evil ChanServ lookalike bot just in case. < 1489605996 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an alias anyway, /cs = quote chanserv... I believe it's an irssi default but I may be misremembering. < 1489605997 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fi'i shapr < 1489605997 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: fi'i: not found < 1489606012 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-!- Irssi: Unknown command: cs < 1489606021 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :coi shachaf do mo < 1489606025 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back when I used xchat I think it was a default. < 1489606025 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :.i < 1489606034 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess someone needs to make welcome.jbo < 1489606043 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :je'e < 1489606048 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`välkommen shapr < 1489606049 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shapr: Hej och välkommen till den internationella knutpunkten för esoterisk programmeringsspråksdesign och -driftsättning! För mer information, se vår wiki: . (För den andra sortens esoterism, pröva #esoteric på EFnet eller DALnet.) < 1489606051 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes, it could be that I took it from xchat. < 1489606092 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :jaså! det är jättebra! < 1489606105 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nu är jag så glad att traffa ni! < 1489606114 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tervetuloa shapr < 1489606115 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shapr: Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric joko EFnet- tai Dalnet-verkossa.) < 1489606123 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :puhutko suomea?! < 1489606124 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :puhutko suomea? < 1489606132 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :minä en puhu suomea < 1489606138 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :en puhu suomea :'( < 1489606153 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :puhun englantia ja heprea < 1489606167 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489606186 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know any Hebrew, sadly. < 1489606190 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a fun language. < 1489606201 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, random question ... the spoken language part of my brain is the same part I use for coding. < 1489606212 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of my coworkers have said they use the math part of their brain for coding < 1489606237 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My skull is opaque so I can't see my brain unfortunately. < 1489606239 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do the people here consider themselves? < 1489606244 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, tyvarr < 1489606246 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe my skull is transparent and only the skin is opaque? < 1489606250 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never checked. < 1489606282 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the moment, I'm taking GHOST and making it more useful. < 1489606289 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not GHOST, but creating a derivative. < 1489606290 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you approach programming as if it were poetry/prose? or as if it were a mathematical equation to solve/simplify? < 1489606304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the distinction? < 1489606318 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mathematical equation to solve is mathematical poetry. < 1489606349 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, interesting thought < 1489606361 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know proofs can be elegant or ugly < 1489606391 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The real question is whether you have a pooch? < 1489606401 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dog? < 1489606418 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oui, un cabot < 1489606437 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :non, je n'as pas un cabot < 1489606444 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :nom de cabot! < 1489606460 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :j'ai une petite amie < 1489606480 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'est mieux < 1489606480 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do not nom the pooch twnh < 1489606488 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish 20 < 1489606490 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :joustelevit pakenne hedeltamiessamme käsi selleen valtasairalla määrästymien tilaukaileva korjateisvat maammiltanne tartamaksi polvittävästä kuolasta rohkansaansa suudattavakseni takottamilta hentämmikseni liehumalta tehdessäsi koettomaisevimpaa < 1489606502 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --swedish 20 < 1489606503 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lingarsamlats sligastet kub kurslag strimfa preniga misse urskogade spar sidisk musidan samman förgångs synen meradikeling tioners balistrafi spet sterskrivits spens < 1489606513 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyvää huomenta fizzie ! < 1489606517 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --lojban 20 < 1489606518 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: lojban < 1489606522 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1489606522 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time fizzie < 1489606523 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for fizzie is Wed Mar 15 19:35:22 2017 < 1489606530 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was close :-P < 1489606530 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Täällä alkaa kyllä jo olla ilta. < 1489606538 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyvää päivää < 1489606548 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyvää päivää -mehu. < 1489606549 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :yäh yah < 1489606568 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent a solid two years trying to learn Finnish while living in Finland, I failed :-( < 1489606598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you learn any esoteric programming languages while you were there? < 1489606609 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, Haskell? < 1489606617 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Joy < 1489606620 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme < 1489606647 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's only two matches for "Finnish" in the wiki. < 1489606656 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :List of ideas, and Poochiewuddledumpling-Boobledarling. < 1489606677 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gave a talk to to Georgia Tech Computer Science classes today, about agile programming. I wore the Haskell sweatshirt I got from Edward Kmett. Happily, one of the classes was appreciative of my awesome hoodie. < 1489606684 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poochie?! < 1489606739 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those don't sound too esoteric. < 1489606747 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is practically mainstream. < 1489606758 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell was quite esoteric in 1999 < 1489606781 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT I SHOWED 'EM! < 1489606816 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :just had to start a community < 1489606917 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 15 minutes the dutch election exit polls will be release suposedly < 1489606933 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik begrijp het niet! < 1489606935 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we shall see whether the nazis win or the other nazis win < 1489606953 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :erdogan says they're all nazis < 1489607058 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so which nazi will be the new ducth prime minister < 1489607075 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1489607278 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1489607285 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the most delightful wikipedia redirect ever: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_one_with_the_whales&redirect=no < 1489607344 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha! < 1489607992 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1489608131 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well that was interesting. Apparently converting bzr to hg works flawlessly. But git fast-import fails if I try to convert it to git. < 1489608141 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And looking at the file I see no reason why it should fail < 1489608143 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fatal: Unsupported command: fs/heads/master < 1489608147 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't even in there < 1489608170 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is "refs/heads/master", but it is only the 870ith instance of that it fails on < 1489608230 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe something is messed up with special characters... Looks like the file checked in just before is a test case with an embedded nul-byte + mixed line endings < 1489608337 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, something went wrong when I patched the file to fix some other issues. Guess sed messes up stuff I didn't expect it to touch < 1489608379 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489608965 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to use a Bitbucket hg repository via git-remote-hg, but it stopped working after Mercurial updated to 4.0. < 1489608972 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mixing version control systems is serious business. < 1489609560 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489609795 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1489609894 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489610088 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1489610664 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm not trying to mix. I'm trying to convert and figure out which one I prefer < 1489610672 0 :hppavilion[0]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1489610753 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I know I like hg and the tortoisehg frontend, but it seems to me that using a popular version control system has advantages. So I'm trying to figure out if I can stand git and possibly find a good GUI for doing the stuff where a GUI is better (looking at history for example) < 1489610772 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :GitKraken seems okay so far, except I can't check out a specific revision with it?? < 1489610787 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you have any suggestions for git GUI? < 1489610827 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were you doing with sed on the fast-import stream btw? < 1489610876 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: fixing author name and email. < 1489610903 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there some built-in support for mapping authors? < 1489610934 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: there is for hg convert yes, but I didn't find anything for the bzr fast-export | git fast-import variant < 1489610954 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I just missed it. But I managed to find the cause of the issue and fix it < 1489611131 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: any git GUI suggestions? < 1489611160 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of gui? I use terminal for everything except git gui for staging and committing < 1489611250 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or often just for staging, with git commit for committing since git gui's message editor is less useful than the vim filetype < 1489611296 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: mostly just stuff like merging and rebasing. < 1489611329 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm used to hg that has tortoisehg which is *really* good. It has pretty much all the functionality if you want it. < 1489611374 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a tortoisegit < 1489611393 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I only know about the CLI tools, no idea about GUIs. < 1489611397 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: for Linux? < 1489611406 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought it was just windows :/ < 1489611413 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1489611429 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :My wife's ex-workplace was using something, but I forget exactly what. Does Atlassian make a Git GUI? < 1489611438 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question < 1489611454 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently they've got something called SourceTree. < 1489611464 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mac and Windows only, maybe. < 1489611483 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wikipedia has a weird description for tortoisehg: "TortoiseHg is a GUI front-end for Mercurial that runs on Microsoft Windows, on which it integrates directly with File Explorer,[1] Mac OS X,[2] and Linux.[3]" < 1489611491 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :SourceTree vaguely reminds me of something atlassian bought maybe? < 1489611502 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Atlassian SourceTree < 1489611504 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know if it was that, I just remember it was by some folks I wouldn't first have associated with a git client for general use. < 1489611512 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I though tortoisehg was just Windows as well < 1489611518 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thought < 1489611519 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ah < 1489611543 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sourcetree doesn't seem to exist for Linux though < 1489611545 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489611550 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 20:57 Mac and Windows only, maybe. < 1489611552 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1489611559 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah missed that line < 1489611561 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1489611571 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've heard that GitHub Desktop is not actually GitHub-specific, but looks like that's also equally operating-system-deficient. < 1489611601 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses the CLI tools and gitk for browsing diffs < 1489611603 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://git-scm.com/download/gui/linux, well that is a fairly short list < 1489611629 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gitk is older than git gui and I was used to gitk when the latter came along... never switched) < 1489611644 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ git gui < 1489611644 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :git: 'gui' is not a git command. See 'git --help'. < 1489611649 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hm? < 1489611675 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc gitk and git gui don't have any overlapping features < 1489611684 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably an extra package < 1489611685 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Some distributions split that off of the rest of Git. < 1489611686 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hmm < 1489611696 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow gitk... is that a tk based GUI? < 1489611704 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :git gui is also Tk based < 1489611708 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've occasionally used gitg for browsing diffs and the history. < 1489611711 0 :hppavilion[0]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1489611718 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty much just "gitk except GTK". < 1489611721 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah indeed < 1489611732 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't ever tried to make commits from it. < 1489611733 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 'git gui' will look for a /use/lib/git-core/git-grep (the -core part may be a debian thing, hmm) < 1489611750 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gitg, another one to check out < 1489611752 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/... < 1489611762 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only git GUI I've actually used a little (very little) is the native git integration of Android Studio (/IntelliJ). < 1489611815 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's too late for me. the git-grep is supposed to be git-gui; I used `locate git-grep` to find the path :/ < 1489611818 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gitkraken is really slow on this fairly old computer. < 1489612402 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :smartgit seems okay in performance. Super-complicated GUI though. Like 10 different panels thrown in your face from the get go. 11 menus at the top. Two toolbars. < 1489612409 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very very busy GUI < 1489612545 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiyapr! < 1489612548 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also apparently supports hg. Also it automatically scans $HOME for repositories. < 1489612708 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489612802 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'll look more into this in the future < 1489612919 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1489613195 0 :hppavilion[0]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1489613423 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1489613789 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489613884 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1489613896 0 :hppavilion[0]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1489613903 0 :hppavilion[1]!?@? NICK :AdvBot < 1489613911 0 :AdvBot!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1489613953 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1489614134 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489614321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1489614383 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1489614606 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lcfllgitqyytqmau QUIT :Excess Flood < 1489614651 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1489614659 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-yehzudiyehrhhwoo JOIN :#esoteric < 1489614699 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489615141 0 :AdvBot!~p736F7267@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489615148 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MY GOD IT WORKED < 1489615151 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I MADE IT JOIN A CHANNEL < 1489615165 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~/ bot.test hppavilion[1] is a modern Prometheus < 1489615165 0 :AdvBot!~p736F7267@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: You have successfully tested with the argument: hppavilion[1] is a modern Prometheus < 1489615223 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zf05alv55zswmi.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1489615278 0 :AdvBot!~p736F7267@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1489615309 0 :AdvBot!~p736F7267@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489615372 0 :AdvBot!~p736F7267@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1489616552 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: your bot's connection seems just as patchy as yours < 1489616604 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you using https://prometheus.io/ hth < 1489616608 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: A lot of it is me killing it myself, but also, yeah, I'm having a bit of internet trouble < 1489616622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, it's locally hosted at the moment for development < 1489616635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I assume that that's a hosting service < 1489616638 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it might not be < 1489616641 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not < 1489617112 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489617368 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489617401 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1489617444 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489617517 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1489619083 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489619277 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1489619351 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Evil14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51375&oldid=51372 5* 03Serprex 5* (-12) 10tc < 1489619790 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1489620608 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1489620873 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Does founder-ness need to be recovered on this channel? <-- is that even possible? < 1489620923 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can set the founder. < 1489620938 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, by freenode policy < 1489620991 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489621000 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489621025 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? founder < 1489621026 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :founder? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1489621043 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who actually made this channel, anyway? < 1489621046 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it fizzie? < 1489621053 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it lament? < 1489621063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the founder used to be andreou. < 1489621088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether he was the first, i don't know - i don't recall seeing him active. < 1489621292 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie would have been the obvious to take over if freenode hadn't changed its policy. < 1489621397 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1489621438 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489621680 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :My logs don't show who were on the channel when I joined, just that it was 6 other people, one of which was a bot. < 1489621799 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at later messages, seems to have been navigator, lament, dmc and exarkun. I can't tell who the last non-bot one was, or who came first. < 1489621920 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(navigator == andreou.) < 1489622172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1489622176 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to the mailing list archives, Andreou did set us up here on 9 Dec 2002. < 1489622188 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(After a false start as #esoterica in EFnet.) < 1489622215 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also means the channel will turn 15 this year. < 1489622232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489622280 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric