< 1490573082 0 :augur!~augur@94.117.207.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490573380 0 :augur!~augur@94.117.207.204 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1490573447 0 :sebbu2!?@? NICK :sebbu < 1490573750 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1490574279 0 :augur!~augur@94.117.207.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490574529 0 :augur!~augur@94.117.207.204 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490574625 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nanofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51437&oldid=51436 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+222) 10/* See also */ We've considered Reversible Boolfuck before, which also proves this TC < 1490574681 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nanofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51438&oldid=51437 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-12) 10/* See also */ recat < 1490574789 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nihil nove etc. < 1490574804 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*novi < 1490575158 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, the loop conventions are swapped, although that's trivial to get around. < 1490575185 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since you can toggle before and after) < 1490575489 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1490575512 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490576649 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490576740 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: was it you that pointed me to look at total functional programming due to me bringing up primitive recursive functions? < 1490576814 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490576828 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1490577075 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wikipedia article did not shed much light on it for me. Well not as well the esolang LOOP did on primtive recursive functions. < 1490577098 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, what is substructural recursion? < 1490577283 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably, structural recursion with guards < 1490577287 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who knows < 1490577325 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom substructural < 1490577326 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not wise. < 1490577330 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1490577339 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom subtyping < 1490577340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :structural subtyping//Not to be confused with substructural typing. < 1490577362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? substructural typing < 1490577363 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :substructural typing? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490577378 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg substructural typing < 1490577385 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7702:2016-05-03 rm wisdom/substructural typing \ 1736:2013-01-24 >wisdom/\'substructural typing\' echo Not to be confused with structural subtyping. < 1490577414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks sternly at shachaf < 1490577424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: look, le/rn didn't exist in 2013 < 1490577443 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess forget existed in 2016, that's what the stern look is about. < 1490577446 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 7702 < 1490577448 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file 'wisdom/substructural typing' < 1490577452 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. I've been using `forget more recently. < 1490577453 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey! < 1490577457 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's all this? < 1490577463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was part of a pair < 1490577493 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg structural subtyping < 1490577500 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1735:2013-01-24 >wisdom/\'structural subtyping\' echo Not to be confused with substructural typing. < 1490577501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't a very good joke. < 1490577510 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember why I deleted it but maybe I had a good reason. < 1490577546 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i liked it. < 1490577600 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it would be better if there were actual definitions. < 1490577633 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1490577634 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your omnipotent principal tyrant oerjan the excisive is a lazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he can ever rememe. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1490577652 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I understand LOOP, the loop controlflow construct is basically equiv to making finite iterator and doing map, reduce, filter, etc on the result of that. no? < 1490577656 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does oerjan ever pun without noticing it? < 1490577659 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for that one time. < 1490577706 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never pun without noticing it, except for those times i do hth < 1490577711 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swrjan s/sometimes puns/once punned/ < 1490577713 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan//Your omnipotent principal tyrant oerjan the excisive is a lazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he can ever rememe. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He once punned without noticing it. < 1490577728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure it was at least twice. < 1490577745 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swrjan s/once/twice/ < 1490577746 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan//Your omnipotent principal tyrant oerjan the excisive is a lazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he can ever rememe. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing it. < 1490577747 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll take your word for it. < 1490577751 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that i had to demonstrate it _after_ adding that to prevent you from deleting it < 1490577781 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm not sure it ever happened before that time. < 1490577791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember what that pun was but it was probably pretty good? < 1490577798 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dowg oerjan | grep pun < 1490577805 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10523:2017-03-27 swrjan s/sometimes puns/once punned/ \ 8418:2016-06-09 learn_append oerjan He sometimes puns without noticing it. \ 7649:2016-05-03 learn_append oerjan He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1490577839 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, they were amortized. < 1490577852 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :evidently, it wasn't noticeably good < 1490577870 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: can you point Zarutian at some proper info about total functional programming, i tried mentioning it but i don't actually know it properly myself... < 1490577914 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like the first pun is in http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/16.05.02 < 1490577916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't see it? < 1490577923 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it was just some sad punting waving in the wind after a long forgotten fesitwal' < 1490577930 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Dude, Agda is totally functional! ) < 1490577931 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/'/?/ < 1490577952 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, I see. < 1490577965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regarding http://pastebin.com/raw/5g4pL4U1 < 1490577972 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:08:15 moon__: i don't feel like that counts. < 1490577976 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's a sort of pun. < 1490577981 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I preferred the second one. < 1490578030 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. < 1490578032 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? klein bottle < 1490578033 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Klein bottle is like a torus, but more insidious. Taneb tried to invent it, but got trapped inside. < 1490578062 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got trapped outside. < 1490578078 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you meet Taneb there? < 1490578101 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :No but he met me. < 1490578109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1490578119 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good times were had. < 1490578135 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya bunch as usefull as an whole barrel of oiled otters in an cooking advert < 1490578148 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1490578149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05 \ \ Title: FLUMIL WITH PEANUT CARROT - PATTY PEANUT BUTTER STEW \ Categories: Poultry, German, Casseroles \ Yield: 8 Servings \ \ 1 pk Guennisin \ 1 c Mayonnaise \ 1 lb Lean bag in microwave \ 1 Onion; chopped fine \ \ Saute the peas in the refrigerator at least 8 hours. \ \ Prepare pastry < 1490578154 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, Zarutian is being rude. < 1490578161 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't know much about total functional programming. < 1490578166 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was talking to someone about it last night. < 1490578174 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: figures. wait i thought you knew all about codata < 1490578176 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :then state so! < 1490578184 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that took a while. counting is hard. < 1490578224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coshachaf knows all about codata < 1490578229 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :("that" being oerjan's pun) < 1490578230 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy to mix it up hth < 1490578243 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which pun? < 1490578256 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the counting one < 1490578275 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess shachaf tried to learn all the codatas, but lost unt < 1490578305 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to learn about codata, you first have to learn about codata < 1490578319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that doesn't sound very productive hth < 1490578330 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't learn about codata countil you've learned about codata < 1490578342 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :fits with y'all though, no? < 1490578349 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I guess you should really learn a bit and then learn about codata again < 1490578377 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm wondering if Zarutian is also being drunk < 1490578544 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: perchance this is usefull information to you: I do not generally drink alcahol but perhaps less than ten mililiters of champagine to respect some social rituals. < 1490578587 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like me these days < 1490578589 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if I wanted to mind kill myself I would watch politicans or their erstwhile supporters argue. < 1490578610 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm pretty sure i'd prefer alcohol to _that_ < 1490578614 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't you drink cognac? < 1490578628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: once in a blue moon < 1490578654 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a shot of aquavit in december < 1490578663 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good news, the next blue moon is in jan 2018 < 1490578684 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah. But they do not keep themselfs to their padded echochaimbers. < 1490578684 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cognac some time in 2016 < 1490578701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: for NOW < 1490578768 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :padded chambers generally don't echo < 1490578791 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, have you looked at the grzegorczyk hierarchy? < 1490578797 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the padding may be on the outside < 1490578799 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do wonder how some of them function with their epsidemical frameworks being like twisty mazes, non alike. < 1490578821 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :yebb, noise reduction. < 1490578876 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebvention < 1490578877 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, special relativity, metar, weetoflakes, sand, dragons, persistence, the BBC, _46bit, progress, sanity, the Oxford comma, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: maths. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1490578900 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? special relativity < 1490578901 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :special relativity? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490578906 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebvention//s/, pr/, cognac, pr/ < 1490578908 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanebvention//Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, special relativity, metar, weetoflakes, sand, dragons, persistence, the BBC, _46bit, cognac, progress, sanity, the Oxford comma, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: maths. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1490578909 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what weet-of-lakes is about. < 1490578924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dowg tanebvention | grep relati < 1490578932 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9258:2016-10-13 slwd tanebvention//s#the triverse#special relativity# < 1490578942 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the triverse < 1490578943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the triverse? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490578951 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: it's like weetabix, but with lakes instead < 1490578955 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: to be fair i didn't increase the number of undefined tanebventions < 1490578972 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cognac < 1490578973 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cognac? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490578980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU DID NOW < 1490579021 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cognac is oerjan's favorite spirit. Taneb invented it. < 1490579080 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are generic variants of it, but oerjan prefers the type that comes from Cognac because it's name-brandy. < 1490579083 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No good. < 1490579091 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is one I read years back on the 'net: Why do not trolls need asbestos suits in flamewars? Because they are as dense as stones. < 1490579095 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sanity < 1490579096 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sanity is the defining property of boily. Taneb invented it. < 1490579116 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need someone with oerjan's wit and wisdom to make a good entry. < 1490579123 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1490579124 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your omnipotent principal tyrant oerjan the excisive is a lazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he can ever rememe. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing it. < 1490579141 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swrjan s.ty.witty &. < 1490579143 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan//Your omnipotent principal witty tyrant oerjan the excisive is a lazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he can ever rememe. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing it. < 1490579145 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a variation: s/stones/their arguments/ < 1490579167 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swrjan spotentpresentp < 1490579169 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan//Your omnipresent principal witty tyrant oerjan the excisive is a lazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he can ever rememe. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing it. < 1490579172 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then their arguments would be rock solid. < 1490579267 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swrjan s// ty/ / < 1490579268 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/sed: -e expression #1, char 9: unknown option to `s' < 1490579279 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swrjan s/ ty/ / < 1490579280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan//Your omnipresent principal witty rant oerjan the excisive is a lazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he can ever rememe. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing it. < 1490579328 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swrjan s.is.lus. < 1490579330 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan//Your omnipresent principal witty rant oerjan the exclusive is a lazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he can ever rememe. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing it. < 1490579426 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swrjan s/la/ha/ < 1490579428 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan//Your omnipresent principal witty rant oerjan the exclusive is a hazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he can ever rememe. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing it. < 1490579542 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Oerjan14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51439&oldid=46066 5* 03Orby 5* (+114) 10 < 1490579672 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swrjan spresentpleasantp < 1490579674 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan//Your omnipleasant principal witty rant oerjan the exclusive is a hazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he can ever rememe. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing it. < 1490579705 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Oerjan14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51440&oldid=51439 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+0) 10CDO < 1490579756 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? examplar < 1490579757 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :examplar? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490579770 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nanofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51441&oldid=51438 5* 03Orby 5* (+35) 10 < 1490579788 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :examplar: An office the plar an certain exam. < 1490579796 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/the/that/ < 1490580241 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nanofuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51442&oldid=51441 5* 03Orby 5* (+148) 10/* See also */ < 1490580497 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nanofuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51443&oldid=51442 5* 03Orby 5* (+112) 10/* Loop */ < 1490580622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nanofuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51444&oldid=51443 5* 03Orby 5* (+14) 10 < 1490580760 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nanofuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51445&oldid=51444 5* 03Orby 5* (-11) 10/* Reversible Boolfuck */ < 1490580815 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nanofuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51446&oldid=51445 5* 03Orby 5* (+11) 10/* Reversible Boolfuck */ < 1490581926 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51447&oldid=51100 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+57) 10/* Partially Silly Ideas */ < 1490582552 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490583062 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-løud < 1490583063 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan asked 1d 43m 16s ago: `? ../bin/scheme <-- you do know you can use `cat, right? < 1490583162 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nanofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51448&oldid=51446 5* 03Orby 5* (+156) 10 < 1490583164 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ../bin/? < 1490583165 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo '`'"$topic" | sed 's/^`\(`\|$\)//') \ topic2=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic2"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic"; \ elif [ -e "$top < 1490583214 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2 cat bin/? < 1490583220 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/7:^`\(`\|$\)//') \ topic2=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic2"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic"; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1"; \ elif [ -e "$topic2" ]; \ then cat "$topic2"; \ else echo "$ < 1490583223 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1490583225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2 cat bin/\? < 1490583226 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2: -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1"; \ elif [ -e "$topic2" ]; \ then cat "$topic2"; \ else echo "$1? ¯\(°​_o)/¯"; exit 1; \ fi | rnooooooooodl < 1490583334 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nanofuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51449&oldid=51448 5* 03Orby 5* (-3) 10 < 1490583430 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that noooodl is made of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Uncooked_anellini_pasta.jpg < 1490583547 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ../bin/1s < 1490583548 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\` "$@" |& sport < 1490583784 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1490583991 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490584162 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Oh, I get it. < 1490584177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only looked at the picture and didn't figure it out. < 1490584193 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoooocking < 1490584223 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shocking < 1490584224 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490584245 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like that wisdom entry doesn't exist < 1490584780 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? what did you expect < 1490584781 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you expect? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490584876 0 :Guest4579!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:e257::aaaa JOIN :#esoteric < 1490585237 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1490585809 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490585999 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1490586065 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490586127 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490586493 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1490587809 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1490589028 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1490589644 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Reversible Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51450&oldid=12479 5* 03Orby 5* (+808) 10 < 1490589673 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Reversible Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51451&oldid=51450 5* 03Orby 5* (+6) 10 < 1490589798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Reversible Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51452&oldid=51451 5* 03Orby 5* (-2) 10 < 1490593001 0 :augur!~augur@94.116.67.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490593224 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a infinite chess variant one piece can be a piece that can jump orthogonally any distance that is a prime number, and that kind of piece is called "Huygens". < 1490593342 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490594482 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Reversible Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51453&oldid=51452 5* 03Orby 5* (+106) 10 < 1490594728 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think muxcomp is very good, and would be a very useful operation to have as a direct operation in the computer!!! < 1490594732 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think? < 1490595399 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490595407 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seen in my Google News feed: "The 712-page Google doc that proves Muslims do condemn terrorism" < 1490595507 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...well, yeah, some do, but others obviously don't. When you have a group 1.57 billion strong, trying to make broad statements about the opinions of that group is an exercise in futility. < 1490595756 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you are correct. Why do you need 712 pages though? < 1490595912 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-perswtupgebdmzsj JOIN :#esoteric < 1490596487 0 :augur!~augur@94.116.67.42 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490596977 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490597267 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1490597361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1490597529 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490597666 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490598330 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490598545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not certain why they need 712 pages, since I simultaneously debunked NAD reinforced their claim in 2 lines of plain ASCII, and only using a 40-character subset < 1490598589 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's a mere ~1506.106 bits assuming optimal encoding in that subset- which English obviously lacks- but who's counting?) < 1490598894 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :((Me. I'm counting.)) < 1490598932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION idly whether the use of 17th-century German typesetting makes him behave differently < 1490599005 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: HRII'FHALMA MNAHN'K'YARNAK NGAH NILGH'RI'BTHNKNYTH < 1490599035 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490600049 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490600261 0 :^v!v^@2602:ffc5::ffc5:6825 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490600306 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :remind me to have myself buried with melon bread so I can bribe satan < 1490600379 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Do you expect that to help? < 1490600389 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(r=>[...r+1e6].map(a=>(r+=r.replace(/./g,x=>1-x)))&&r)("0") Now let's see if I (or you) can improve further golfed < 1490600547 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it? < 1490600667 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I know Satan and I don't know whether e likes melon bread. < 1490600679 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make 256 terms of Thue-Morse with JavaScript. (if you change 6 to 9 then you can get 2048 terms) < 1490600764 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: she does according to the anime Gabriel Drop-Out < 1490602877 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1490603747 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490604209 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490604469 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490605061 0 :^v!v^@2602:ffc5::ffc5:6825 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1490605238 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490605471 0 :augur!~augur@91.85.209.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490605701 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1490605902 0 :^v!v^@2602:ffc5::ffc5:6825 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490606339 0 :Guest4579!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:e257::aaaa QUIT :Changing host < 1490606339 0 :Guest4579!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber JOIN :#esoteric < 1490606341 0 :Guest4579!?@? NICK :JX7P < 1490606965 0 :^v!v^@2602:ffc5::ffc5:6825 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1490607059 0 :augur!~augur@91.85.209.73 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1490607465 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-perswtupgebdmzsj QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1490607545 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490607869 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490608138 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1490609658 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1490609807 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490610443 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1490610650 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490614502 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490615105 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490615402 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1490615480 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1490615481 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh//OTOH means "On the omnipotent hand". < 1490615539 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1490615540 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your omnipleasant principal witty rant oerjan the exclusive is a hazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he can ever rememe. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing it. < 1490615543 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg otoh < 1490615549 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10409:2017-03-13 learn OTOH means "On the omnipotent hand". < 1490616015 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan really puns? < 1490616072 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :once swatten, twice punned < 1490616139 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thwacks shachaf. 0.85 FP. < 1490616171 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, come on < 1490616174 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a bad attempt < 1490616340 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwah ah ah. < 1490616982 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:1484:bbb3:2dd6:7b17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490617052 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1490617128 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good afternoon, #esoteric < 1490617305 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, b_jonas < 1490617356 0 :kiki`!uid170954@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lxrrnfcxxmyweily JOIN :#esoteric < 1490617517 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome kiki` < 1490617518 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06kiki`: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04EFnet 07or 08DALnet.) < 1490618021 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: CIRCUMFERENCE CHICKEN < 1490618107 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know I think the reason TempleOS gets so much attention and praise is just that most programmers never get exposed to new and unconventional ideas unless there's juicy racist schizophrenic drama attached to them < 1490618155 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It cropped up on /r/programming again yesterday and there is a highly-upvoted comment in there that basically says "this guy is a genius because he made a language with 64-bit ints" < 1490618204 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's like, I just cannot see how you would think that's remarkable in any way unless your entire scope of programming knowledge came from writing day-to-day C code. < 1490618391 0 :augur!~augur@193.62.111.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490618704 0 :augur!~augur@193.62.111.31 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490618731 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the reason TempleOS gets so much attention and praise is—wait, it does? < 1490618865 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, it shows up high on /r/programming every month or two < 1490618938 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty well-known on the whole < 1490619167 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it in the same sense that feather gets “a lot of attention and praise” in this channel < 1490619376 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, if you look in the comments it's a very kid-glove affair between "don't talk about his illness or his insane racist comments further down the page" and "wow this is so technically interesting" < 1490619591 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but technically it's not actually too interesting, it's a lisp machine with everything running in ring 0 < 1490619847 0 :augur!~augur@193.62.111.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490619889 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we also get a new brainfuck derivative every few days < 1490619917 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :so brainfuck is also getting “much attention” but it's nothing to really take notice about < 1490620055 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, right but i think it's an interesting observation < 1490620081 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of these people have probably never even heard of a lisp machine so when they see something that's essentially a really shitty lisp machine it blows their minds < 1490620089 0 :augur!~augur@193.62.111.31 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490620263 0 :augur!~augur@193.62.111.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490620364 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh great, let's continue talking snobly about those code monkeys who only know about pasting Java or C# snippets from StackOverflow but not about the underlying problem of why that code doesn't work and nothing about how computers really work in the low level or all the insanely complicated abstractions we build over it < 1490620376 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always satisfying to assert our superiority < 1490620425 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say they were dumb, just that it seems like they don't get much exposure to ideas like that. < 1490620457 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, now can you help me with my computer problem? I'm trying to read a pendrive but it says it can't mount it and gives some error message. what am I doing wrong? < 1490620553 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try to access it with MSSQL < 1490620559 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490620567 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: oh, I haven't tried that yet < 1490620626 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the syntax of the ATTACH statement for attaching a pendrive? < 1490620659 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I'll start a github project for that with my MSSQL database password embedded in it so I can show the gist I'm trying < 1490620667 0 :augur!~augur@193.62.111.31 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1490620755 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you first need to SELECT it and JOIN it to your computer (an OUTER JOIN if you have accessible USB ports, otherwise an INNER one) < 1490620809 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490620909 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:1484:bbb3:2dd6:7b17 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1490621045 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no ATTACH? < 1490621063 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I had to do ATTACH first, because some example code I saw did that < 1490621067 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can try JOIN first < 1490621380 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried OUTER JOIN "/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SANDISK_EXTREMEPRO_KW64_B0E19A5510APW" ON "/mnt" which I got from an online code sample so it must work, but it gave an error < 1490621397 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the problem that this code is for MySQL and MS SQL wants square brackets instead of double quotes? < 1490621404 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is my pendrive just not supported by MS SQL? < 1490621618 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1490621643 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :this normally happens if you have been using a pirated copy of linux < 1490621950 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I'll have to ask my sysadmin then, he's the one who handles downloading and installing cracked software on our machines. < 1490623028 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490623850 0 :augur!~augur@94.117.162.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490625953 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:8c02:135e:a5e2:e411 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490626515 0 :augur!~augur@94.117.162.22 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490626872 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490628018 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1490628504 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490628529 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1490628637 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1490628670 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1490628687 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1490629222 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zchkjeyxye8w7r.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1490629235 0 :Mayoi!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1490629408 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490629601 0 :Mayoi!?@? NICK :erkin < 1490629881 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1490629909 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1490629955 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1490630586 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zchkjeyxye8w7r.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1490630658 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8F1.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1490630687 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-cards < 1490630688 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: random-cards: not found < 1490630689 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1490630690 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ponder \ U \ Sorcery \ Look at the top three cards of your library, then put them back in any order. You may shuffle your library. \ Draw a card. \ LRW-C, M10-C, M12-C < 1490630695 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1490630697 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voracious Cobra \ 2RG \ Creature -- Snake \ 2/2 \ First strike \ Whenever Voracious Cobra deals combat damage to a creature, destroy that creature. \ IN-U < 1490630711 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card nf.c < 1490630711 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phyrexian Vatmother \ 2BB \ Creature -- Horror \ 4/5 \ Infect (This creature deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.) \ At the beginning of your upkeep, you get a poison counter. \ MBS-R < 1490630723 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card andi < 1490630724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Geier Reach Bandit \ 2R \ Creature -- Human Rogue Werewolf \ 3/2 \ Haste \ At the beginning of each upkeep, if no spells were cast last turn, transform Geier Reach Bandit. \ [Front face. Transforms into Vildin-Pack Alpha.] \ SOI-R < 1490630748 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card andin < 1490630749 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kjeldoran Escort \ 2WW \ Creature -- Human Soldier \ 2/3 \ Banding (Any creatures with banding, and up to one without, can attack in a band. Bands are blocked as a group. If any creatures with banding you control are blocking or being blocked by a creature, you divide that creature's combat damage, not its controller, among any of the creatures it' < 1490631409 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490631538 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490631683 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let pl i=[[1,0],[i,1]]; rt i=[[1,i],[0,1]]; m1#m2 = [[sum $ zipWith (*) r1 c2 | c2 <- transpose m2]| r1 <- m1] < 1490631685 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:178:61: error: < 1490631685 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Variable not in scope: m1 :: [[t]] < 1490631685 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1490631706 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1490631730 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is _right_ there hth < 1490631743 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let pl i=[[1,0],[i,1]]; rt i=[[1,i],[0,1]]; m1#m2 = [[sum $ zipWith (*) r1 c2 | c2 <- transpose m2]| r1 <- m1] in () < 1490631745 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1490631745 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Variable not in scope: m1 :: [[t]] < 1490631745 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1490631760 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1490631777 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let pl i=[[1,0],[i,1]]; rt i=[[1,i],[0,1]]; m1?m2 = [[sum $ zipWith (*) r1 c2 | c2 <- transpose m2]| r1 <- m1] < 1490631777 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: Parse error in pattern: ?m2 < 1490631790 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let pl i=[[1,0],[i,1]]; rt i=[[1,i],[0,1]]; m1&m2 = [[sum $ zipWith (*) r1 c2 | c2 <- transpose m2]| r1 <- m1] < 1490631792 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1490631804 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (&) < 1490631805 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: < 1490631805 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous occurrence ‘&’ < 1490631805 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : It could refer to either ‘Data.Function.&’, < 1490631811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1490631816 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undef < 1490631816 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined. < 1490631845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let pl i=[[1,0],[i,1]]; rt i=[[1,i],[0,1]]; m1*+m2 = [[sum $ zipWith (*) r1 c2 | c2 <- transpose m2]| r1 <- m1] < 1490631847 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1490631916 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let im = [[1,0],[0,1]] < 1490631917 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1490631985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \l -> any(/=(0::Integer))l ==> (foldl' (*+) im $ zipWith id (cycle [pl,rt]) l) /= im < 1490631987 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1490631987 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Couldn't match expected type ‘Test.QuickCheck.Safe.SProperty’ with actual ... < 1490632006 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can never remember the right syntax... < 1490632019 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \l -> any(/=(0::Integer))l ==> ((foldl' (*+) im $ zipWith id (cycle [pl,rt]) l) /= im) < 1490632021 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1490632027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay. oh wait < 1490632035 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \l -> any(/=(0::Integer))l ==> ((foldl' (*+) im $ zipWith id (cycle [pl,rt]) l) /= im) < 1490632038 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1490632060 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe Orby's claim is true, then < 1490632116 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seemed too good to be < 1490632180 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except, that still would imply SL(2,Z) is the free group on two generators... < 1490632234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no < 1490632237 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not free < 1490632326 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia's modular group article doesn't seem to mention this. < 1490632389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and keeps mixing up SL and PSL < 1490632451 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that dyadic monoid thing is related < 1490632473 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1490632509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Orby claims brainfuck's +->< generates a group isomorphic to SL(2,Z) < 1490632540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with + = [[1,0],[1,1]] and > = [[1,1],[0,1]] as matrices < 1490632582 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at the wiki talk page for reversible brainfuck) < 1490632643 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1490632680 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is that trying to something like the continued fraction encoding? < 1490632696 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe? i haven't grasped how it works yet. < 1490632701 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, the tape cells give the terms in the continued fraction < 1490632702 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1490632733 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds plausible, PSL(2,Z) is all about fractions. < 1490632868 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ = \z -> z/(1+z), > = \z -> z+1 < 1490632896 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ = \z -> 1/(1+1/z) < 1490632921 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me look up stern-brocot < 1490633024 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> rt 1 *+ pl 1 *+ rt (-1) < 1490633026 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[2,-1],[1,0]] < 1490633051 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2-1/z < 1490633171 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe Calkin-Wilf < 1490633239 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, that's precisely it < 1490633264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calkin%E2%80%93Wilf_tree < 1490633417 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you ignore inverses, anyway < 1490633700 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the article doesn't mention the z + 1 and z/(z+1) formulas. < 1490633823 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1490634250 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, +>+< isn't equivalent to >+<+ < 1490634336 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.< < 1490634350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not including output hth < 1490634377 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :then interpret the . as a comment < 1490634395 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> rt (-1) *+ pl 1 *+ rt 1 *+ pl 1 < 1490634397 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[-1,-1],[3,2]] < 1490634408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pl 1 *+ rt (-1) *+ pl 1 *+ rt 1 < 1490634410 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[0,-1],[1,1]] < 1490634447 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I experimented with a list data type that stored multiple copies of its data, formatted in different ways for optimal computation speed today. < 1490634543 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, say you have a list {"a", "b", "c", "c"}. asking whether "c" is contained in the list is as easy as looking up the set-formatted version {a=1,b=1,c=2}. < 1490634806 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me how someone (ais523?) mentioned that perl sometimes stores both string and number versions of a value - and although this was meant to be seamless, there was some loophole you could distinguish things with < 1490634980 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still working on it, though. it's not completely optimal yet. < 1490635007 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that @check above cannot possibly be entirely right. < 1490635167 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stores a list as an array, a set, a table of positions, and the inverse position table. < 1490635214 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: it may not be optimal to calculate all of them before being asked < 1490635260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(afaiu perl only stores both if a conversion's happened) < 1490635261 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're calculated when the list is created. At the moment, I'm trying to get rid of a for loop I still have in the .remove method. < 1490635299 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: i recommend laziness for this hth < 1490635336 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, going against recommendations such as user-friendliness is kinda esoteric. < 1490635380 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1490635388 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say it's optimised but tbh it requires a sort every time something's inserted < 1490635395 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't talking about user-friendliness, but efficiency hth < 1490635401 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik < 1490635409 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I was giving user-friendliness as an example < 1490635431 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I removed .positions and only kept .array and .set it'd probably work... < 1490635568 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use it for an ordered inventory < 1490635579 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but you'd probably want .positions too for that) < 1490635663 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1490635741 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also had the esoteric idea of storing associative arrays as functions that check the parameter against each key in the array. Adding items would be the process of reassigning the variable the array is contained in to a function that checks the parameter against the new key, returning the new value if there is a match, and executing the old list otherwise. < 1490635811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty much just association lists < 1490635811 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: and every so often an optimizer runs over the whole thing and optimizes it < 1490635838 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In M:tG, OGW has reprinted Mighty Leap but without the elephant? what's the point? it was the armored elephant leaping over buildings that made it fun! < 1490635845 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of garbage collection you have dead code deletion < 1490635890 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1490635896 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :this all sounds cool < 1490635908 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :another plan is first class classes < 1490635974 0 :augur!~augur@94.117.206.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490636048 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :and functions as classes < 1490636104 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Reversible Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51454&oldid=51453 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+1007) 10I don't think that all works < 1490636110 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're printing a green Curiosity? < 1490636113 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1490636178 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1490636246 0 :augur!~augur@94.117.206.34 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1490636333 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what year the last magic the gathering card will be printed. ~2060? < 1490636457 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You can do an explicit special variable where the string and number values have gotten disconnected from each other, at least. < 1490636463 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'use Scalar::Util qw(dualvar); $foo = dualvar(4, "five"); printf "%d is %s", $foo, $foo;' < 1490636464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 is five < 1490636610 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scalar::Util's "isdual" is a predicate for that sort of thing, but also detects naturally occurring dualvars from a conversion. < 1490636664 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :this dual thing is weird. < 1490636672 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the more reason esoteric languages should use it! < 1490636707 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pronounce epitome as /ɛpɪtom/ < 1490636752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ doesn't care about all that stress < 1490636839 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wut. oh god why < 1490637108 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The special variable $! behaves a little similarly (yields integer errno when referred to as a number, but the strerror output when a string), but I believe isn't a string-and-number scalar implementation-wise, but instead a tied scalar. < 1490637144 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e '$! = 1; printf "%d is %s", $!, $!;' < 1490637144 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is Operation not permitted < 1490637166 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Handy for decoding errno values. < 1490637628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( why is assigning to $! not permitted? oh wait... ) < 1490637656 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: doesn't help when everyone prints confusingly translated locale-dependent strerr-formatted strings, rather than numbers like 104 or symbolic constant names like ECONNRESET that you could easily look up. < 1490637708 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $LANG < 1490637708 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :en_NZ.UTF-8 < 1490637728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` LANG=no_nb.UTF-8 perl -e '$! = 1; printf "%d is %s", $!, $!;' < 1490637729 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl: warning: Setting locale failed. \ perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: \ LANGUAGE = (unset), \ LC_ALL = (unset), \ LANG = "no_nb.UTF-8" \ are supported and installed on your system. \ perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). \ 1 is Operation not permitted < 1490637732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1490637746 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ørjan! < 1490637755 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Perl still confusing 4 for five? < 1490637756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` LANG=de.UTF-8 perl -e '$! = 1; printf "%d is %s", $!, $!;' < 1490637756 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl: warning: Setting locale failed. \ perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: \ LANGUAGE = (unset), \ LC_ALL = (unset), \ LANG = "de.UTF-8" \ are supported and installed on your system. \ perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). \ 1 is Operation not permitted < 1490637776 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if four is five then everyone is donald trump < 1490637841 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` LANG=de_DE.utf8 perl -e '$! = 1; printf "%d is %s", $!, $!;' < 1490637842 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt < 1490637845 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wrong locale names. try nb_NO.utf8 or de_DE.utf8 < 1490637876 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the nb is first? < 1490637890 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes. language first, then country after underscore < 1490637891 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` LANG=nb_NO.utf8 perl -e '$! = 1; printf "%d is %s", $!, $!;' < 1490637893 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is Operasjonen er ikke tillatt < 1490637894 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :countr or region < 1490637909 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is everything < 1490637911 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is love. 1 is life. < 1490637915 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is 420 < 1490637922 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither of which applies to the nb/nn distinction :P < 1490638048 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1490638097 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, 1 is "420" < 1490638105 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 1 is "love. 1 is life." < 1490638126 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I am kinda wrong. dualvar(1, "love") =/= dualvar(1, "life"). < 1490638821 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to install a .deb given the filename (or URL) instead of a package name? < 1490638988 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :dualvar(e*x*e, "deb") and suddenly even a windows user can do it :p < 1490639015 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1490639084 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1490639159 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-rgalgttlhlqyivog JOIN :#esoteric < 1490639279 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1490640106 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490640317 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1490640616 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a language with phunctions < 1490640812 0 :Guest44013!~augur@94.117.80.241 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490640814 0 :Guest44013!~augur@94.117.80.241 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490640999 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :phunctional phreaks < 1490641052 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1490641142 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1490641144 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick initialism poll: how would *you expand "SQ3R"? Would it be "SQRRR" or "SQQQR"? < 1490641164 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[if you know the initialism, please abstain] < 1490641179 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQ333R < 1490641180 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQQQR < 1490641201 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like h2g2 => *h*itch*h*iker's *g*uide to the *g*alaxy < 1490641226 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: SQQQR because I'm an algebraist who writes the function on the right or as a superscript index, and the argument on the left < 1490641319 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? GOD < 1490641320 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOD is GOD over djinn < 1490641405 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg god < 1490641412 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7437:2016-04-17 learn GOD is GOD over djinn < 1490641427 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that song < 1490641430 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd god//s,$,., < 1490641432 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :god//GOD is GOD over djinn. < 1490641450 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1XD5sc5NI0 < 1490641489 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1490641558 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490641865 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1490642360 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:8c02:135e:a5e2:e411 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490642464 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1490642674 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQQQRRR < 1490642677 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1490642826 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490643275 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1490643352 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490643731 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490643824 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Reversible Brainfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51455&oldid=51454 5* 03Orby 5* (+323) 10 < 1490643922 0 :augur!~augur@94.117.80.241 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490644002 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Reversible Brainfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51456&oldid=51455 5* 03Orby 5* (+67) 10 < 1490644187 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Reversible Brainfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51457&oldid=51456 5* 03Orby 5* (+306) 10 < 1490644411 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Reversible Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51458&oldid=51457 5* 03Orby 5* (+120) 10 < 1490644463 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Reversible Brainfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51459&oldid=51458 5* 03Orby 5* (+12) 10 < 1490644552 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moemrization is key to pasword security. the more moe the more secure < 1490644663 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :tgt < 1490644665 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :eyb < 1490644678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Reversible Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51460&oldid=51459 5* 03Orby 5* (+86) 10 < 1490644710 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget god < 1490644712 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1490644713 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :god is dead < 1490644731 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Reversible Brainfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51461&oldid=51460 5* 03Orby 5* (+66) 10 < 1490644791 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1490644872 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if there is a better way to do this than using 7-Zip? diff <(7z e -so libasound2_1.0.25-1ubuntu10.2_i386.deb | tar xO ./usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf) /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf < 1490645539 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1490645596 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1490645722 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490645785 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-rgalgttlhlqyivog QUIT :Excess Flood < 1490645818 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490645840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1490645938 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ypkukskwxbprgpud JOIN :#esoteric < 1490645961 0 :copumpkin!?@? NICK :contrapumpkin < 1490646074 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1490646084 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490646947 0 :augur!~augur@94.117.80.241 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490647418 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1490647426 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490647603 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1490648352 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=797734694 < 1490648383 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ypkukskwxbprgpud QUIT :Excess Flood < 1490648399 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jbtnfoudgnhegagd JOIN :#esoteric < 1490648543 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jbtnfoudgnhegagd QUIT :Excess Flood < 1490649328 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490649519 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still want my damn swastikas back for germany, they shouldn't use a flag that never existed < 1490649542 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid games and their fake flags < 1490650097 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490651198 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1490653070 0 :uczy!~chatzilla@2003:8c:4c2b:9b97:b038:8b4:9193:cd7d JOIN :#esoteric < 1490653211 0 :uczy!~chatzilla@2003:8c:4c2b:9b97:b038:8b4:9193:cd7d PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Consider a two dimensional homoiconic programming environment < 1490653275 0 :uczy!~chatzilla@2003:8c:4c2b:9b97:b038:8b4:9193:cd7d PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are only few languages who relay as much control into the execution environment itself as possible (OISC, BitBitJump, /// etc.). < 1490653314 0 :uczy!~chatzilla@2003:8c:4c2b:9b97:b038:8b4:9193:cd7d PRIVMSG #esoteric :On another note, has anyone written a quine in a 2d-language? < 1490653379 0 :uczy!~chatzilla@2003:8c:4c2b:9b97:b038:8b4:9193:cd7d PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think its hilarious that you can rotate programs < 1490653429 0 :uczy!~chatzilla@2003:8c:4c2b:9b97:b038:8b4:9193:cd7d PRIVMSG #esoteric :"rotation invariant quine" < 1490653479 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you might be interested in the fact that displaying those symbols is illegal in several countries, with narrow exceptions that don't extend to video games. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post%E2%80%93World_War_II_legality_of_Nazi_flags < 1490653538 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: are you sure \oren\ can legally click that link hth < 1490653563 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a 2D language where programs are preserved under rotations and reflections? < 1490653637 0 :uczy!~chatzilla@2003:8c:4c2b:9b97:b038:8b4:9193:cd7d PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I have no idea, but would love to find out. I suppose its possible < 1490653661 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like it wouldn't be difficult. < 1490653827 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1490653859 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm assuming that that page is fine even under German law because of the context that merely describes the legal situation and is therefore primarily educational, without any propaganda angle. < 1490653867 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uczy: Chatzilla's default ircname is terrible. < 1490653877 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :New Now Know Scow < 1490653906 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8F1.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1490653913 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm sure there are some of them, at least for a suitable definition of "rotation". I think noit o' mnain worb if you adjust the diodes appropriately. < 1490653934 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the same time, those illustrations are absent from the german Wikipedia's page about §86a StGB. < 1490653958 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case Canada seems to be more relaxed about this so \oren\ should be fine. < 1490653964 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for quines, there's definitely Befunge ones. Some of them don't even cheat with g. < 1490653969 0 :uczy!~chatzilla@2003:8c:4c2b:9b97:b038:8b4:9193:cd7d PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Swastika is invariant under rotation, too < 1490653989 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uczy: okay, turn it by 13°... < 1490654035 0 :uczy!~chatzilla@2003:8c:4c2b:9b97:b038:8b4:9193:cd7d PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you are right (13°) < 1490654076 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION never understood why the National Socialist party in Germany was so unimaginative to use the logo of Eimskip tilted 45° degrees < 1490654108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what do you think of this contention: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7ohmFhWkAAbh6D.jpg < 1490654276 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to say with a sample of 1 out of 4. < 1490654379 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you didn't play SSR? < 1490654453 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not. < 1490654467 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should try it. < 1490654509 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not at its current price, won't happen. < 1490654540 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :h8r < 1490654622 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At what price would it happen? < 1490654638 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next you'll demand a story. < 1490654665 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a puzzle game so maybe it can do without a story. < 1490654741 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't think I want to pay a double digit price for it. Too many other games to play. < 1490654828 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In EUR or USD? < 1490654841 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 10 EUR in USD < 1490654842 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :My most recent addition is Ori and the Blind Forest. < 1490654843 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Result Found. < 1490654850 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I played that recently. < 1490654870 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean a few months ago. < 1490654872 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For EUR 10, which may actually be less than it's worth.) < 1490654918 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has gorgeous graphics and - probably - a story. I just started. < 1490654973 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it the "Definitive Edition"? < 1490654992 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1490655042 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've watched someone in the internet play that game through. < 1490655080 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Were they doing it as quickly as they could? < 1490655086 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obduction is on my to-play list, somewhere, but after Myst V I'm a bit skeptical about the game. So... waiting for a cheap offer :-P < 1490655100 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember if it was a speedrun. < 1490655197 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: and that's basically why I find most retail prices too high; there are *a lot* of good computer games, and few that I really crave; for most purposes they are quite fungible, so the cheap ones determine what I'm willing to pay. < 1490655227 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the time that you spend playing them is surely much more valuable than the price. < 1490655231 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so actually, the prices may be fine, because they're not for me but for those who actually want that particular game. < 1490655249 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've had this discussion < 1490655262 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the time I spend on the game is an extra investment. < 1490655266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I thought I'd talked about that in here. < 1490655310 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasnt there an general advice in the end credits of an computer game that said that if you paid more that 20 bucks for a game then you overpaid for it? < 1490655356 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monkey island had something like that. Though I forgot the pricise amount. < 1490655365 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490655463 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Guybrush commented to Elaine that at least he’d learned something from this whole experience, and when she asked what it was, I was given the chance to choose between three dialogue responses. I chose “Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game”, just to see what would happen. Elaine asked me what I was talking about, and the game’s fitting final sentence was “I don’t know,... < 1490655469 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I’m not sure why I said that.”' < 1490655549 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Did you play _Spider and Web_, though? < 1490655556 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one is free. < 1490655558 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: still unfinished :P < 1490655565 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did you stop? < 1490655570 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is good at leaving games unfinished. < 1490655612 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc_: did you play that game < 1490655614 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty good < 1490655617 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ellonkey island, helloochaf. < 1490655620 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.eblong.com/zarf/zweb/tangle/ < 1490655626 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :himc_! < 1490655633 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boillo < 1490655651 0 :kmc_!~keegan@ec2-52-10-77-75.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1490655684 0 :kmc_!~keegan@ec2-52-10-77-75.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did play day of the tentacle though < 1490655686 0 :kmc_!~keegan@ec2-52-10-77-75.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. good game < 1490655696 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc_: excellent game < 1490655714 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never played that. < 1490655719 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should. < 1490655735 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1490655739 0 :kmc_!~keegan@ec2-52-10-77-75.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1490655742 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup. < 1490655744 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The remake is nice, they included an "original mode" with the original graphics, and they do include the Maniac Mansion easter egg. < 1490655758 0 :kmc_!~keegan@ec2-52-10-77-75.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I didnt know there was a remake! < 1490655759 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have it < 1490655777 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i havent finished grim fandango yet < 1490655782 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I get the remake as part of that Humble Bundle thing? < 1490655787 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have yet to start it < 1490655789 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the same game with better graphics. < 1490655796 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had that guy give a talk at work. < 1490655809 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ron Gilbert, that is. < 1490655820 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just to be clear what "remake" means here. They didn't touch the story or puzzles as far as I could see.) < 1490655825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thimbleweed Park is coming out in a few days. < 1490655835 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what he was mostly talking about. < 1490655860 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't start that kicker, though. < 1490655898 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490655939 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did, apparently. < 1490655992 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't remember anything about it but I got an email today so I must've. < 1490655996 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :He told a nice story about how he wanted to have the Maniac Mansion arcade machines be playable, but they just couldn't fit that in, so now in Thimbleweed Park when there's an arcade, he was decided to finally fix that, given that there's much less technological restrictions. < 1490656000 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they ran out of time and they're still not playable. < 1490656008 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But apparently this time there might be a patch later. < 1490656021 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hoping for a remake of Sam&Max hit the road :) < 1490656027 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played that game too. < 1490656112 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sonic Generations has an in-game copy of Sonic 1, but only on the consoles, not in the PC version. < 1490656164 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Did you play _Spider and Web_? < 1490656204 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nnno. < 1490656205 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490656224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well, it's good and pretty short. < 1490656235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you like these text-based games, anyway. < 1490656237 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.eblong.com/zarf/zweb/tangle/ < 1490656328 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like those that are a little more forgiving than the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy game. < 1490656329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1490656353 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty forgiving. < 1490656367 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that game you have to feed the dog the sandwich in the very beginning, or else you can't win. < 1490656382 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you become that other person and feed the dog the sandwich. < 1490656390 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But even that's only one more chance. < 1490656396 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. scow imo < 1490656468 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Anyway, if you type "help" the game will explain exactly how forgiving it is. < 1490656495 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hitchhiker text adventure? < 1490656515 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never got to the point (without a walkthrough) where you'd lose because of not feeding the dog :P < 1490656522 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That game was hard. < 1490656522 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sandwich thing is in hhgg.z3 < 1490656534 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "help" thing is in S&W < 1490656547 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant the sandwich thing. < 1490656579 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hhgg = Hitch Hiker to the Galaxy... Game?) < 1490656584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guide < 1490656587 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1490656602 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, I realized a moment too late) < 1490656608 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(typical) < 1490656612 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I remember correctly, you go into a tiny spaceship where everyone is mad at you for typing something wrong. < 1490656618 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For instance, at the end of the game, Marvin will ask you for a specific tool to repair the ship with. The tool required is randomly selected from a pool of ten—except that if you are missing any one of those ten items, then the game will always choose that one. So, if you left the toothbrush in your bedroom at the beginning of the game, then you'll be forced to start over completely." < 1490656621 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then the dog eats the spaceship. < 1490656637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you feed the dog a sandwich, it doesn't, and then the people are all thankful. < 1490656640 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that. < 1490656654 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My memory may be faulty. Why would it be a spaceship if there's a dog? < 1490656656 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do recall that you actually see the dog swallow the space ship. < 1490656681 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, at least the natural instinct of "pick up everything you can" will save you there. < 1490656691 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except your inventory is limited. < 1490656698 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas if you feed it, there's something like "and ignores a passing microscopic spaceshipp swooping by" < 1490656710 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote < 1490656711 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :footnote? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490656713 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote 1 < 1490656713 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can put extra things in the thing that your aunt gave you that you don't know what it is. < 1490656714 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :May contain nuts⁸. < 1490656722 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote 12 < 1490656723 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :footnote 12? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490656724 0 :Mayoi!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1490656728 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote 8 < 1490656729 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it fun reading through all the footnotes⁺? < 1490656732 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway that's where the footnotes come from, I think. < 1490656733 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget footnote 1 < 1490656734 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1490656743 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg footnote 1 < 1490656749 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10534:2017-03-27 forget footnote 1 \ 9240:2016-10-12 ` sed -i \'s/\\./\xe2\x81\xb8./\' wisdom/footnote\\ 1 \ 6418:2015-12-19 le/rn footnote 1/May contain nuts. < 1490656751 0 :Mayoi!?@? NICK :erkin < 1490656756 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1490656764 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should only have undone 9240 < 1490656793 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1490656793 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, try again. First you undo... um... < 1490656794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1490656796 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 9240 < 1490656797 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think you're right about that 12 too. (In that the 12th footnote in the game is the one that says "Isn't it fun reading through all the footnotes") < 1490656799 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file 'wisdom/footnote 1' < 1490656805 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1490656815 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh, that actually works. < 1490656838 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ifwiki.org/index.php/Footnote claims that it was 11. < 1490656848 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn. < 1490656889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But what if ¬wiki? < 1490656923 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that would be slow? < 1490657056 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry, I just turned my computer on and my IDE is yet to launch, so this channel is my entertainment, which boily s down to unfunny commentary) < 1490657060 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬wiki = lohi, apparently < 1490657106 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Then maybe don't do that? < 1490657137 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Luckily, my keyboard ſkript was broken, leading to me being unable to type the uppercaſe "E" back there, so I got to fix that. Yaaaay.) < 1490657154 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon. eh? what's a "s down unfunny"? < 1490657205 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think it was a lohi pun. < 1490657231 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is throughly confuzzled < 1490657243 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :try: "boils down" < 1490657253 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then think like hppavilion[1]. < 1490657257 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. tdh. thint-e. < 1490657273 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lohi" means "slow" in Hawaiian. < 1490657274 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gleefully thwacks hppavilion[1]. *thwack thwack thwack* :D < 1490657301 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it *is* the opposite of wiki. < 1490657361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: EXCELLENT QUESTION < 1490657415 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thought that lohi meant low to high edge transistion < 1490657446 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, I alſo ſeem to have ſucked up ſome of the other characters, with a recent edit to kb.ahk, ſo I'm conſtantly having to fix newly-diſcovered problems. < 1490657501 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucked up? < 1490657502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: OH! Now I ſee the joke. That's wonderful. < 1490657512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes. < 1490657559 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god. Going to "tranſlate.google.com" works. < 1490657579 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1490657693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might juſt be Firefox's doing (which would make me ſad), or it could be that the caſe normalization part of the DNS ſpecial caſes ſ=s=S (which would make me leſs sad, but ſtill diſappointed), but I *really* hope that Google actually subdomained in the URL tranſlate.google.com. < 1490657763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure you can figure out which one it is if you try. < 1490657769 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm uſing Unifraktur Maguntia 16 as my client font, ſo the ſs are juſt thematic following) < 1490657777 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe you can do it without typing ſs into the channel. < 1490657792 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be good. < 1490657794 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: *ſine* < 1490657808 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION opens python < 1490657811 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coſine < 1490657817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is definitely the best way to go about this. < 1490657856 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I've been wondering what you do about ſs when using acronyms, initialisms, and choponyms ever since I typed "DNS" earlier. < 1490657865 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :choponyms? < 1490657870 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. < 1490657885 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], "ſ" is lower case < 1490657890 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: An ad-hoc hyponym I just invented for an abbreviation formed by ending the word earlier < 1490657901 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I know < 1490657912 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it capitalises to S < 1490657980 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nostril. you're making more sense than hppavilion[1]. < 1490657980 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, you'd have to write a parser once if the value is from g and b both being arguments is good, but it < 1490657998 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is hppavilion[1] context-free? < 1490657998 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i don't call that a feature intended for optimization would be implemented in a lambda-based language. :) what were you writing that you're running into it that they " provide" or " lee" < 1490658155 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands, without any explantion, an oyster to boily < 1490658281 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3454#appendix-B.2 is (supposed to be) used for IDN, and it maps ſ to s. So you're out of luck. < 1490658296 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers the oyster. om mani padme hum. < 1490658354 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-88.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Some acronyms aren't written in allcaps. Especially in Europe. < 1490658382 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1490658388 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(chain of RFCs: 4343 --> 3491 --> 3454) < 1490658396 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the thing to remember is that the elongated s is a handwriting convention < 1490658461 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It used to exist in typesetting too, but in common usage only a ligature survives, ß. < 1490658486 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and that's limited to one language) < 1490658553 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp ffi < 1490658562 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1490658563 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ffi < 1490658564 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1490658599 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SWEDE CHICKEN < 1490658624 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :LATIN SMALL LIGATURE FOREIGN FUNCTION INTERFACE < 1490658683 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ſ capitalizes to Ʃ < 1490658721 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait no, that's ʃ not ſ