< 1490832207 0 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490832215 0 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu JOIN :#esoteric < 1490832653 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1490832917 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1490833140 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Nanofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51595&oldid=51594 5* 03Orby 5* (+73) 10 < 1490833583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51596&oldid=51593 5* 03Orby 5* (+562) 10/* Candidate languages */ PFC3 < 1490833900 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51597&oldid=51596 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+188) 10/* PFC2 */ [] doesn't always halt < 1490834649 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490834664 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51598&oldid=51597 5* 03Orby 5* (+60) 10/* PFC2 */ < 1490834906 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490834943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51599&oldid=51598 5* 03Orby 5* (+170) 10/* PFC2 */ < 1490834959 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit stop editing :( < 1490835007 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51600&oldid=51599 5* 03Orby 5* (+49) 10/* PFC2 */ < 1490835067 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51601&oldid=51600 5* 03Orby 5* (+112) 10/* PFC3 */ < 1490835178 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51602&oldid=51601 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+362) 10/* PFC2 */ It's worse < 1490835201 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51603&oldid=51602 5* 03Orby 5* (+115) 10/* Counter example for 2.1 */ < 1490835236 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellōĕrjan. < 1490835242 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily. < 1490835253 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51604&oldid=51603 5* 03Orby 5* (+139) 10/* Counter example for 2.1 */ < 1490835257 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:54 Ignoring ALL from HackEgo [-regexp -pattern wiki] < 1490835258 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1490835268 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the SNR skyrocketed < 1490835332 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51605&oldid=51604 5* 03Orby 5* (+126) 10/* PFC2 */ < 1490835360 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :realtime chat on the wiki is awkward. < 1490835377 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51606&oldid=51605 5* 03Orby 5* (-59) 10/* Conjecture 2.1 */ < 1490835416 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490835456 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51607&oldid=51606 5* 03Orby 5* (+2) 10/* Conjecture 2.1 */ < 1490835587 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490835599 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rhellobdgreat. SNR is an overrated concept. < 1490835603 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. < 1490835678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51608&oldid=51607 5* 03Orby 5* (-29) 10/* Conjecture 2.1 */ Clarifying conjecture 2.1 < 1490835725 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Orby14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51609&oldid=51575 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+285) 10Preview < 1490835746 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robdgreat: ok i suggested he use preview < 1490835939 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1490836037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: NO IT ISN'T < 1490836138 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIA! < 1490836152 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hue hue hue :D < 1490836400 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51610&oldid=51608 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+221) 10/* PFC3 */ Not property I < 1490836429 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-94-147.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490836775 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490836993 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Orby14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51611&oldid=51609 5* 03Orby 5* (+154) 10 < 1490837856 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1490837933 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51612&oldid=51610 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+177) 10/* Lemma 2.2 */ Is this true? < 1490838389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : kmc_: himc_! is it true? <-- devious minds want to know! < 1490838403 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg kmc < 1490838405 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp devious < 1490838411 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1846:2013-01-26 learn kmc ran the International Devious Code Contest of 2013 \ 1845:2013-01-26 learn kmc ran the Internation Devious Code Contest of 2013 \ 658:2012-08-16 rm wisdom/kmc \ 657:2012-08-16 learn kmc is nice but we don't get his occasional bouts of Tourette's. < 1490838411 0 :kmc_!~keegan@ec2-52-10-77-75.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no its not < 1490838412 0 :kmc_!~keegan@ec2-52-10-77-75.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1490838418 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1490838419 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1490838472 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? kmc < 1490838473 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc ran the International Devious Code Contest of 2013 < 1490838487 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd kmc//s,$,., < 1490838489 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc//kmc ran the International Devious Code Contest of 2013. < 1490838508 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd kmc//s/ran/did not run/ < 1490838510 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc//kmc did not run the International Devious Code Contest of 2013. < 1490838726 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: AUTONOMOUS CHICKEN < 1490838909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this sanity. < 1490839042 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490839282 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad < 1490839283 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This wisdom entry was censored for being too accurate. < 1490839613 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ypaxqyengfnzsvuv JOIN :#esoteric < 1490840195 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1490840285 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490841007 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hackego's random entry thing seems broken. < 1490841007 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1490841008 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490841035 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1490841036 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :narutoverse//narutoverse is a place where they haven't heard of having a bus factor of >1. Sgeo drives the bus. < 1490841039 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1490841089 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1490841090 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490841102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know that `? ever did randomness... < 1490841108 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1490841108 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo '`'"$topic" | sed 's/^`\(`\|$\)//') \ topic2=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic2"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic"; \ elif [ -e "$topic < 1490841120 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the ngevd bit. < 1490841145 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should make a variant of `2 that doesn't do shell command expansion. < 1490841190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should it be called? < 1490841356 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1490841365 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just stick a w somewhere in the name and call it good hth < 1490841385 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a HackEgo command to run commands HackEgo-style? < 1490841395 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. split on the first space and pass in one argument. < 1490841694 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1490841737 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1490841960 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not per se, but i had to implement that inside `# < 1490841999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/# < 1490841999 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sep='//`' \ [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || { echo 'Usage: `# '"$sep"'' >&2 ; exit 1; } \ command="${1#*$sep}" \ "${command%% *}" "${command#* }" < 1490842029 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490842111 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/nur//"${1%% *}" "${1#* }" < 1490842113 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/nur < 1490842128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`nur cat hi there < 1490842128 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: hi there: No such file or directory < 1490842138 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/` would be a good name if it wasn't taken. < 1490842216 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd bin/#//$-1,$cnur "${1#*$sep}" < 1490842216 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roswbud! < 1490842224 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/#//$-1,$cnur "${1#*$sep}" < 1490842224 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/sed: -e expression #1, char 2: unknown command: `-' < 1490842230 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ff < 1490842323 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh sed doesn't seem to support selecting the line before the last. < 1490842350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/#//3,$cnur "${1#*$sep}" < 1490842352 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/#//sep='//`' \ [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || { echo 'Usage: `# '"$sep"'' >&2 ; exit 1; } \ nur "${1#*$sep}" < 1490842375 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`# testing//`cat hi there < 1490842376 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: hi there: No such file or directory < 1490842391 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no 100% more modular! < 1490842394 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*now < 1490842776 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490842981 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490843173 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1490843952 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-94-147.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490844036 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-94-147.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490844036 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1490846913 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490847448 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490847510 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51613&oldid=51612 5* 03Orby 5* (+2980) 10Non-existence proof #3. Should make a little more sense. < 1490847536 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1490848701 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490848732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Orby < 1490848734 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13Orby: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07EFnet 08or 09DALnet.) < 1490848744 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was informed that there is a bot which communicates edits to this IRC channel and I was flooding the channel with edits. Sorry for the disruption! I will keep my edits to a reasonable count in the future :) < 1490848752 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello Oerjan, how are you? < 1490848763 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading your latest edit < 1490848777 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully it makes more sense than the last one < 1490848834 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey @viznut, don't think I've seen you outside of pouet, ha < 1490848874 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :be careful with @greetings in here, one of our bots has @ as command prefix < 1490848916 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, been a year or so since I've been on irc sadly. : is the standard highlight, yeah? < 1490848928 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :viznut seems sadly very idel < 1490848930 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*le < 1490848932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1490848984 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oop, so he is < 1490849027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: say hi to Orby < 1490849027 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: new features: water obstacles. if an error condition. in-range has a termination condition. < 1490849052 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hello < 1490849053 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Orby: fnord putkonen not automatically). winds out of the result; it could easily be used as test expressions, etc. < 1490849066 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1490849306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your shift loop definition needs a little work. e.g. (*(<)*) seems to fit the definition but remains a NOP. < 1490849437 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd imagine you want it to actually execute the < at least once. < 1490849455 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(still not sure about the conjecture) < 1490849549 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I was thinking about that. I'm trying to say a loop that can result in net tape head movement for some initial input. < 1490849578 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly the loop (*(<)*) can never result in net tape head movement, despite containing an unbalanced < < 1490849633 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that A(B1)C1...(Bn)Cn(U)Y1(X1)...Ym(Xm)W < 1490849662 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, its pretty unreadable < 1490849685 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you talking about the typo? < 1490849691 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my original comment still applies: (U) could be (U1)V1(U2)...(Uk) < 1490849692 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the missing ... < 1490849733 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have no guarantee that the unmatched ( and ) in the first and last commands match each _other_. < 1490849760 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, U could be anything, but I don't think that matters. If the execution of (U) can result in net tape head movement, then the conjecture applies regardless of whether or not there are nested loops < 1490849762 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.... < 1490849775 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm saying U isn't a program. < 1490849804 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a program fragment, and can contain unmatched parentheses. < 1490849810 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how the first unmatched ( in [ could possibly not match the last unmatched ) in ] < 1490849820 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[][] < 1490849835 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doh, you are right < 1490849860 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the form is still wrong < 1490849873 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there's no way to salvage the proof. that would make me happy. < 1490849900 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1490849945 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there are no pf languages, then nanofuck is the smallest, which is cool. if there are pf languages, then finding one would also be cool. I'm happy either way. < 1490850032 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think your proof still works assuming the conjecture. < 1490850045 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1490850045 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no, wait, the top level commands that aren't in loops are still A, Ci, Yi, and W, so the net tape head movement is still in one direction and not the other < 1490850054 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with [][] < 1490850077 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you also have my Vi above. < 1490850092 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are _not_ necessarily common between the < and > translation. < 1490850109 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do the Vi come from? < 1490850116 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the parts between the (Ui) < 1490850133 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can they be part of the top level code which isn't contained with a loop? < 1490850141 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*within < 1490850151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hm. < 1490850154 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not seeing how < 1490850203 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are correct that they are among the A, Ci, etc. _but_ they're not the _same_ number of copies of them for every program < 1490850224 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. [] contains only one set, while [][] contains two < 1490850252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1490850260 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but doesn't the ratio between the number of occurances of A, Ci and Yi, W always remain the same? < 1490850282 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the parenthesis have to close < 1490850323 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe one command does > and one does >> but we can't have one doing > and one doing < < 1490850327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right. so it's not the same amount, but always the same _direction_. < 1490850331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of movement. < 1490850335 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think so < 1490850350 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I was trying to get at with the proof < 1490850387 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course this all rests on a big fat conjecture < 1490850394 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1490850427 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the conjecture seems pretty reasonable to me, I don't have any good ideas on how to prove it, but I can't find a counter example < 1490850438 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everytime I think I find one, I figure out I'm wrong < 1490850523 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho hum < 1490850543 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad the weekend isn't here yet. I want to blow off life for a couple days and figure this out. < 1490850757 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the proof is salvagable if we change the form to something like A(B1)C1...(Bn)Cn(U1)Y1(X1)...Ym(Xm)W ... A(B1)C1...(Bn)Cn(U1)Y1(X1)...Ym(Xm)W but it's a notational nightmare. need to figure out a better way to phrase it. < 1490850854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have another idea. note that the leftmost [ in the program must match _some_ ] with its (, and everything in between is inside a loop. and what comes after that ] must be a whole program. < 1490850872 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have [A1][A2]...[An] < 1490850885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where all the Ai are inside loops < 1490850964 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the only parts outside loops are the A...C1 etc. of the [s and ...Ym...W of the ]s < 1490851075 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the [s and ]s visible in the [A1][A2]...[An] notation, that is. < 1490851179 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Orby: also, there is no ... between W and the next A, they must follow each other directly. < 1490851228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the W ends a toplevel ], which can only be followed by a [ < 1490851256 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with you, also observation: any loop which doesn't always nop will result in a shift sometimes < 1490851293 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i'm not sure of that. < 1490851329 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[<*>] < 1490851331 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you're right, (<*>), but anyway < 1490851333 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1490851368 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many brackets :P < 1490851378 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :notation hell :D < 1490851387 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, let me read what you were writing < 1490851451 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, yes I agree with what you're writing. The elipsis between W and A was supposed to represent multiple repetitions of [] < 1490851472 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so more A blah blah WA blah blah W, etc < 1490851484 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway < 1490851664 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :another thing. hm. if a program always halts, then there must be an upper bound to how long it can run without halting, by a compactness argument. < 1490851699 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that, i think, is enough to ensure that the reverse program also always halts. < 1490851727 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll buy that < 1490851762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is important for your proof, because you need it to ensure you can always get to any state you want as long as your programs are sure to halt. < 1490851799 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we can get to any state from any state < 1490851810 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what i mean. < 1490851825 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see what you mean < 1490851891 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :using this, you can prove that all the loops in representations of always halting programs must themselves be always halting. < 1490851960 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1490852009 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then only that pesky conjecture remains. < 1490852134 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the pesky conjecture. < 1490852143 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, toplevel loops. < 1490852143 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say we have a loop (B) that doesn't always evaluate to a nop < 1490852172 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either B contains no loops, or B contains an inner most loop (C) that doesn't always evaluate to a nop < 1490852207 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is guaranteed to always perform the same action < 1490852219 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it contains no loops that aren't nops < 1490852219 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1490852262 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that action involves moving the tape head, then it seems like it should be easy to prove that it's possible for C to always leave the tape head on a 0 < 1490852281 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if C results in a net movement of the tape head, I should say < 1490852336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that inner loops _cannot_ always be reached in any state you want. < 1490852348 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that was the issue with the first non-existence proof < 1490852363 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, we haven't proved they can < 1490852399 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490852426 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's better to talk about the net tape head movement resulting from B, since the only condition that has to be met to execute B at least once is that the tape head is pointing at a 1 < 1490852527 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the tape looks like ...b1 b2 b3 b4 1 b5 b6 b7 b8..., then B will execute. The question is, for any B which sometimes results in net tape head movement, can we choose b_i s.t. B leaves the tape head pointing at a zero every time it executes < 1490852547 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a can of worms < 1490852592 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490852674 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. i think i'll be leaving now, it's soon time to go to bed. < 1490852698 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :likewise. have a good night! < 1490852705 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night! < 1490852714 0 :Orby!60eaeacb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.234.234.203 QUIT :Quit: night all < 1490853644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1490854533 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1490854828 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1490855415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490855495 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1490855518 0 :alakra!~alakra@admin.angelolakra.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490855527 0 :alakra!~alakra@admin.angelolakra.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490855606 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1490855640 0 :shapr!~shapr@162.243.9.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490855646 0 :shapr!?@? 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[https://btzy.github.io/jelly/ Jelly] is my optimizing online Brainfuck compiler." < 1490858423 0 :augur!~augur@195.11.164.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490858573 0 :augur_!~augur@195.11.164.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490858642 0 :augur_!~augur@195.11.164.221 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1490858673 0 :augur_!~augur@195.11.164.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490858675 0 :augur!~augur@195.11.164.221 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490858938 0 :augur_!~augur@195.11.164.221 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490859083 0 :IronY!~IronY@unaffiliated/irony QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1490859094 0 :Ir0nY!~IronY@unaffiliated/irony JOIN :#esoteric < 1490859118 0 :Ir0nY!?@? 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Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1490871988 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490872400 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490872536 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490872612 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8F1.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1490872701 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1490873617 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490873772 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1490873840 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1490873842 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nm//nm means "no minotaur" hth < 1490873873 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( what was the command for magic cards again? ) < 1490873884 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card something < 1490873885 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: card: not found < 1490873891 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`magic something < 1490873891 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: magic: not found < 1490873895 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mtg something < 1490873896 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: mtg: not found < 1490873899 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1490874525 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1490874527 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdt//That doesn't tdt. < 1490874535 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels reassured
< 1490876578 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490877061 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SENSITIVE CHICKEN < 1490877981 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1490879146 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CSL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51615&oldid=50023 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (-6) 10 < 1490879211 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:d0b6:b3e0:43f1:6c44 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490879444 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bowserinator: random-card and card-by-name < 1490879447 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1490879452 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ^ < 1490879459 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card giant < 1490879460 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nightfire Giant \ 4B \ Creature -- Zombie Giant \ 4/3 \ Nightfire Giant gets +1/+1 as long as you control a Mountain. \ {4}{R}: Nightfire Giant deals 2 damage to target creature or player. \ M15-U < 1490879465 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name giant < 1490879466 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Giant Adephage \ 5GG \ Creature -- Insect \ 7/7 \ Trample \ Whenever Giant Adephage deals combat damage to a player, create a token that's a copy of Giant Adephage. \ GTC-M \ \ Giant Albatross \ 1U \ Creature -- Bird \ 1/1 \ Flying \ When Giant Albatross dies, you may pay {1}{U}. If you do, for each creature that dealt damage to Giant Albatross th < 1490879511 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card llsh < 1490879511 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dreamscape Artist \ 1U \ Creature -- Human Spellshaper \ 1/1 \ {2}{U}, {T}, Discard a card, Sacrifice a land: Search your library for up to two basic land cards and put them onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library. \ PLC-C < 1490879705 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`starwars < 1490879706 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Owen Lars < 1490880304 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a name for the field containing the rationals and arbitrary radicals? < 1490880527 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:e0c0:3075:31f:2da3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490880837 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1490880863 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1490881904 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490882445 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490883059 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490883520 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should invent a name for it < 1490883658 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or construct a name for it?) < 1490884009 0 :bronxman!~Android@107.152.104.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490884039 0 :bronxman!~Android@107.152.104.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everyone < 1490884067 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1490884082 0 :bronxman!~Android@107.152.104.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm new here < 1490884132 0 :bronxman!~Android@107.152.104.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any topic aside from esoteric? < 1490884201 0 :bronxman!~Android@107.152.104.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a related theme to esoteric < 1490884265 0 :bronxman!~Android@107.152.104.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :global warming could be a change in human race mindset < 1490884793 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that related to esoteric programming? < 1490885011 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome bronxman < 1490885013 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bronxman: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1490885036 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bronxman: yes, there are always lots of topics trending besides esoteric. < 1490885063 0 :bronxman!~Android@107.152.104.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh great < 1490885117 0 :bronxman!~Android@107.152.104.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thanks for warm welcome < 1490885199 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be said that global warming has caused a change in human race mindset to “global warming exists” < 1490885244 0 :bronxman!~Android@107.152.104.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some people global warming doesn't exist, right? < 1490885469 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like for Indiana Jones when he's in the fridge to survive it? < 1490885510 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :his climate model predicted his survival hth < 1490885780 0 :bronxman!~Android@107.152.104.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're spiritual beings living in a material bodies, it could be existed a spiritual world < 1490885838 0 :bronxman!~Android@107.152.104.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*living in material bodies I mean < 1490886029 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8F1.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490886223 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490886225 0 :Guest67865!?@? NICK :shapr < 1490886246 0 :shapr!~shapr@162.243.9.169 QUIT :Changing host < 1490886246 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr JOIN :#esoteric < 1490886491 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1490886697 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490886982 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1490888661 0 :bronxman!~Android@107.152.104.166 PART #esoteric : < 1490889082 0 :orby!32e0e343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.224.227.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490889089 0 :orby!32e0e343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.224.227.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morning all < 1490889110 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51616&oldid=51613 5* 03Orby 5* (+321) 10/* Non-existence Proof 3 */ Patching up proof to include last night's discussion < 1490889483 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish HackEgo linked to the actual article rather than the diff. < 1490889532 0 :orby!32e0e343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.224.227.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that would be nice < 1490889689 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-nsyrwilvkoaaogox JOIN :#esoteric < 1490889859 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1490889969 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1490890152 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that any solution also implies a solution to https://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_instruction_minimalization < 1490890287 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not with the isomorphism condition < 1490890525 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, it may be possible to circumvent the translation rules with a two-command turning tarpit < 1490890864 0 :orby!32e0e343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.224.227.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I tried my best to write the translation rules in such a way that a turning tarpit could not apply. e.g. I don't see any trivial way to write the ! command in braincrash as a finite series of BF commands. < 1490890885 0 :orby!32e0e343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.224.227.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you think of a way to do so, I'd obviously be very interested < 1490891021 0 :orby!32e0e343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.224.227.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the problem with a turning tarpit is that the command register must map to some position on the tape in BF under isomorphism, which can then be potentially modified by whatever the execute command translates to < 1490891036 0 :orby!32e0e343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.224.227.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which screws up the state < 1490891427 0 :orby!32e0e343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.224.227.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not totally convinced that a solution to picofuck necessarily implies a bf instruction minimalization, since picofuck is minimizing reversible brainfuck, which is not a so called "simple translation" of brainfuck afaik, so it depends on what kind of requirements you have for bf equivalence < 1490891477 0 :orby!32e0e343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.224.227.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I chose rbf because there was an obvious 3 command simple translation (see nanofuck) which made me think it'd be easier to minimize < 1490891540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1490891647 0 :orby!32e0e343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.224.227.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: morning < 1490891888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :orby: 'fternoon < 1490891900 0 :augur!~augur@athedsl-358139.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1490891934 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :coafternoon to conobody here < 1490892022 0 :orby!32e0e343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.224.227.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I tried to rewrite non-existence proof 3 to capture the points in our argument last night. still no counter-example for the annoying conjecture. < 1490892035 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-nsyrwilvkoaaogox QUIT :Excess Flood < 1490892040 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1490892089 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-taxmmskmlmkfxjeo JOIN :#esoteric < 1490892097 0 :orby!32e0e343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.224.227.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got meetings, be back in a couple hours < 1490892128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'll be leaving before then, back in a bit more. < 1490892265 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-taxmmskmlmkfxjeo QUIT :Excess Flood < 1490892359 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-xqidhkjblsgeaxyk JOIN :#esoteric < 1490892657 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the rationale is that it's one click from the diff to the article (click on "Page"), but the other way around you'd have to do "View history" and then manually look up from the comment or timestamp which edit it was. < 1490892691 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:e0c0:3075:31f:2da3 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490893292 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:e964:17b5:1e5:b8ed JOIN :#esoteric < 1490893364 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. I just realized I can make a self-replicating ship in kerbal pace program < 1490893403 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT HAS BEGUN < 1490893424 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the age of the kerberserkers < 1490893742 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal space program turing completeness proof? < 1490893815 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh or that < 1490893819 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1490893843 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :algorithm: have a rover that can mine metal and refine it into rocket parts and launch a ship < 1490893848 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. have it travel 100 metres in a random direction, and then launch a copy of itself, repeat < 1490893853 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. exponential number of rovers spread across the Mun < 1490893858 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :4. ????? < 1490893862 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :5. PROFIT! < 1490893926 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mun < 1490894010 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: what about it? < 1490894152 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :mUn < 1490894159 0 :augur!~augur@athedsl-358139.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490894204 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kerbin's inner moon is the Mun. its outer moon is called Minmus < 1490894337 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds stellar. < 1490894351 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if they've made a programming language named Looa? < 1490894544 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1490894600 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-xqidhkjblsgeaxyk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1490894639 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-sgbaoahobbltsfhm JOIN :#esoteric < 1490894642 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1490894678 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1490894687 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:e964:17b5:1e5:b8ed QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490894700 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1490894705 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still having issues with my password < 1490894720 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is your password non-English? < 1490895190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: It's random < 1490895192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure < 1490895201 0 :hppavilion[1]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[12] < 1490895296 0 :hppavilion[12]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :On an entirely unrelated note: Why the fuck is it so difficult to find sheet music *not* for purchase and *not* under DRM for pieces that are public domain and have been for over a century < 1490895312 0 :hppavilion[12]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they ever were at all, because copyright might not have *even been invented* when it was written < 1490895384 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :because gov < 1490895953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1490895968 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490895988 0 :hppavilion[12]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1490896083 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, it's trying to identify my under a different nick < 1490896088 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you have looked for them in ABC format? (You can use abc.js iirc to render the actual sheets) < 1490896111 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: I can reset, I just want the passworder to type it in right < 1490896117 0 :augur!~augur@athedsl-358139.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1490896268 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's identifying me as hppavilion[0] even though it has my username set as hppavilion[1] < 1490896272 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still works, but it's weird < 1490896387 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zdpds6j6modvj8.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1490896528 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490896835 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1490897134 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hppavilion[0] < 1490897135 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1490898724 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, a new tumblr post suggests that ~50% of platelets are made in the Lungs, not the Bone Marrow < 1490898727 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn lungs < 1490898730 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stealin' our jobs < 1490898964 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a new tumblr post? < 1490898971 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1490898972 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1490898986 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tumblr isn't a scientific journel < 1490898995 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as i know < 1490899089 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: s/new study/new tumblr post/ < 1490899119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/g/ < 1490899175 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I'm working on an IRC bot to manage inventories < 1490899225 0 :augur!~augur@athedsl-358139.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490900128 0 :ocharles_!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1490900139 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03SnoringFrog 5* 10New user account < 1490900275 0 :olsner_!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1490900375 0 :jameseb!~jameseb_@2001:41c8:51:10d:: QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1490900377 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1490900377 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1490900377 0 :iaglium!U2FsdGVkX1@ma.sdf.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1490900377 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1490900378 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1490900393 0 :olsner_!?@? NICK :olsner < 1490900407 0 :jameseb!~jameseb_@2001:41c8:51:10d:: JOIN :#esoteric < 1490900425 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: JOIN :#esoteric < 1490900433 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1490900440 0 :iaglium!U2FsdGVkX1@ma.sdf.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1490900627 0 :ocharles_!?@? NICK :ocharles < 1490900632 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51617&oldid=51554 5* 03SnoringFrog 5* (+282) 10 < 1490900645 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07COW14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51618&oldid=45818 5* 03SnoringFrog 5* (+219) 10Add updated links to language info/interpreters < 1490900664 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07COW14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51619&oldid=51618 5* 03SnoringFrog 5* (+3) 10 < 1490901820 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot has been cooking something up: https://twitter.com/jamieabrew/status/695060640931549184 < 1490901820 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i plan to... < 1490902763 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1490902935 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1490903057 0 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1490903068 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490903651 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh-oh < 1490903653 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1490903691 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hai FireFly < 1490903695 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :heya < 1490903700 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's code? < 1490903758 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question < 1490903779 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to think of what the most recent significant thing he coded was
< 1490903788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HireFly < 1490903794 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1490903892 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :haschaf < 1490903897 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :er hachaf* < 1490903909 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :hac hac hac < 1490903918 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how'z jamz? < 1490904375 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, was a while since I coded something that wasn't work code < 1490904378 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, significant. The code for reading integers in Haskell's base? < 1490904446 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1490904476 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do Germans even have the /æ/ phoneme? < 1490904642 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, the sounds in "cat" and "hätte" are the same to me, is that the right one? < 1490904676 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(first syllable of "hätte", the 'e' is subtly different) < 1490904680 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs
< 1490904709 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :hett? < 1490904740 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: writing Haskell at work? < 1490904758 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shapr: noope < 1490904763 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1490904779 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote some work Haskell code last week. < 1490904785 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think I'll get to enhance it next week. < 1490904786 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did write a few very small utils for CVS in haskell, but that was like 8 years ago < 1490904792 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, CVS < 1490904804 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found much CVS tags in my code from ten years ago. < 1490904812 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :IPA is often to subtle for me anyway, and half of the sounds are unpronouncible. < 1490904838 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION patched a C++ program today...
< 1490904843 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yay. < 1490904966 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's why I prefer Imperial Stouts over IPAs < 1490904973 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :IPAs are too subtle < 1490905010 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490905028 0 :shapr!~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: written any Haskell lately? < 1490905245 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, the vowels maybe, the consonants are pretty solid < 1490906648 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I think "cat" is different in British English < 1490906784 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's not very helpful information right now < 1490906789 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Slord 5* 10New user account < 1490907072 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been doing a lot in the language Rust and was curious what you all thought of it. < 1490907220 0 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1490907299 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( it's not Swift ) < 1490907353 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot to post the site: https://www.rust-lang.org/en-US/ < 1490907369 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51620&oldid=51617 5* 03Slord 5* (+117) 10 < 1490907389 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: I suspect that link was quite redundant. < 1490907443 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LINR14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=51621 5* 03Slord 5* (+339) 10Created page with "== LINR == LINR is an interpreted language in which the code is broken into two sections separate by an @. The first character determines the separator for operat..." < 1490907447 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: I expect you know this, but the pun is connected to https://developer.apple.com/swift/ < 1490907481 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that :P < 1490907482 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not a pun because there's no double meaning if you read it as the adjective 'swift' < 1490907487 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1490907523 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LINR14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51622&oldid=51621 5* 03Slord 5* (+17) 10 < 1490907533 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, fungi should have their own culinary designation < 1490907541 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're usually treated as vegetables iirc < 1490907678 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'd argue that by appropriating the adjective as the name of a programming language, the word becomes a proper name. I'd further advocate the view that changing the catogory of a word (using a noun where an adjective is required) is enough to constitute a pun, even if the spelling is unaffected. ) < 1490907695 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :( < 1490907720 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but it doesn't work as a pun because 'it's not swift' is nonsensical if you read 'swift' as the adjective < 1490907735 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you naturally resolve to the only sensible reading which is also the expected one from the context < 1490907753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make a website that hosts OS kernels < 1490907757 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And call it The Cob < 1490907769 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: wait, you're saying that programming languages can't be fast nor swift? < 1490907791 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that didn't occur to me. < 1490907857 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never seen anyone use 'swift' to talk about computing performance < 1490907894 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1490907961 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well, I hear Swift is pretty shitty in terms of speed. < 1490907963 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: So. < 1490908169 0 :xfix!~konrad@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490908386 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shapr: not very lately, sedition is the latest haskell I did < 1490908411 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :before that, improved dead code stripping in GHC < 1490908809 0 :xfix!~konrad@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1490908837 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So <= is a primitive used for sorting and searching that gives you ~1 bit of information per use. So people do binary search and things. < 1490908849 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a general-purpose primitive that gives you more than that? < 1490908924 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490908934 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :byte access, so people use that for tries? < 1490908952 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Chuck Norris < 1490908952 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? soviet russia < 1490908953 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chuck Norris? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490908953 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soviet Russia used to be a synonym for the Soviet Union. In reality, the Soviet Union dissolved. Meanwhile, Soviet Russia dissolved reality, and you are a figment of its imagination. < 1490908969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Right, you have radix sort and things like that. < 1490908998 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the best idea I'll have < 1490909003 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for this question) < 1490909022 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a better question I can ask? < 1490909054 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :<= is much more generic than things like radix < 1490909074 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Is there a way to terminate shachaf's chains of questions that doesn't involve querying a certain wisdom entry? ) < 1490909093 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? car < 1490909094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :car? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490909110 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? int-e < 1490909111 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e är inte svensk. Hen kommer att spränga solen. Hen står för sig själv. Hen gillar inte färger, men han gillar dissonans. < 1490909126 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1490909128 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1490909130 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Queen Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. He doesn't know when to stop asking questions. < 1490909131 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the one I meant. < 1490909152 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :please remind me, does "gillar" mean "like"? < 1490909176 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess google can find the answer) < 1490909200 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1490909204 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like dissonance? < 1490909207 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks google http://en.bab.la/dictionary/swedish-english/gillar < 1490909208 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, google http://en.bab.la/dictionary/swedish-english/gillar. Thoogle http://en.bab.la/dictionary/swedish-english/gillar. < 1490909247 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dissonance tends to be more interesting than harmony. < 1490909277 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should perhaps clarify that I didn't mean it in the context of music. Dissonance has its appeal there but only when used very sparingly. < 1490909304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think dissonance is a fundamental part of music, isn't it? < 1490909352 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm misusing the term. < 1490909373 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Music tends to be something I listen to, not analyze. < 1490909393 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you listen to analysts? < 1490909405 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned from reading Matt Levine's column what the true purpose of analysts is. < 1490909413 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question. < 1490909468 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn Chuck Norris//Cars look both ways before Chuck Norris crosses the street. < 1490909471 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'chuck norris': Cars look both ways before Chuck Norris crosses the street. < 1490909502 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :slashlearn?! < 1490909539 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chuck Norris jokes are scow < 1490909539 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes. that's the command I usually use to create wisdom entries, which you all then delete because I can't come up with good ones < 1490909555 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cars < 1490909556 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cars? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490909572 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? batman < 1490909573 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :batman? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490909579 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spiderman < 1490909579 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spidy < 1490909580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spiderman? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490909581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spidy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490909581 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Is it your opinion that they aren't good? < 1490909589 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that spelled spidey? < 1490909595 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spidey < 1490909597 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spidey? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490909620 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably some of them are good, but it's hard to tell which ones < 1490909649 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you tell me which ones are good < 1490909674 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that last one was good. < 1490909698 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490909903 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it beats straight quotes from the Mt:G comprehensive rules. < 1490909915 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic the: Gathering < 1490909918 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those weren't me I think < 1490909921 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1490909934 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it looked wrong but not terribly so) < 1490909952 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? :GMt < 1490909953 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:GMt? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490909956 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? delve < 1490909957 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :delve? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490909959 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you played Magic: the Gathering? < 1490909966 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? storm < 1490909967 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :storm? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490909971 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, which entry was that? < 1490909994 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp ability < 1490909995 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rust < 1490909996 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is C++ as designed by the makers of Haskell. < 1490910010 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🐐:🐐 <(Unicode goat laments your inability to render Unicode goat.) \ deniability:Deniability was not invented by Taneb. \ doublethink:Doublethink is the ability to hold the right belief. (If you think that you disagree with this definition, think again.) \ erlang:Erlang has tricked people into loving global mutable variables while pretendi < 1490910019 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i dont think thatsvery accurate < 1490910032 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have played it with other people's decks (basically serving as a parity correction), but never collected cards nor done much thinking about deck design. I stopped 8 years ago or so. < 1490910041 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: it is! realy < 1490910075 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le//rn rust//Rust is C++, but Python, but Extensible, but Memory safe, but designed by the makers of haskell < 1490910077 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'rust': Rust is C++, but Python, but Extensible, but Memory safe, but designed by the makers of haskell < 1490910092 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell? < 1490910093 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tries to be as high level (static) as haskell so it can catch a lot of your mistakes at compile time, but at the same time tries to be efficient ("zero-cost abstractions" is the fancy way they say it) so you don't pay overhead for that < 1490910096 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO! < 1490910099 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1490910100 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1490910106 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rust < 1490910107 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is C++ as designed by the makers of Haskell. < 1490910117 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one is totally accurate, it's the best description ever < 1490910125 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah it was comparative. Right. < 1490910128 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its boringly accurate. < 1490910133 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not wisdom < 1490910137 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's totall not but Memory safe < 1490910140 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its fact < 1490910150 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: all wisdom entries are accurate < 1490910154 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's accurate and funny at the same time < 1490910156 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or witty < 1490910158 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1490910174 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But rust's entry is bland, you rulebreaker < 1490910179 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( It's just as memory safe as C++ ... if you stick to RAII patterns almost nothing goes wrong :P ) < 1490910179 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1490910180 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and, uh, that other one? It started with, like, an ø? < 1490910191 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some smart pointers < 1490910209 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grwp pointer | wc < 1490910211 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 14 90 < 1490910215 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LINR14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51623&oldid=51622 5* 03Slord 5* (+2580) 10 < 1490910216 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp pointer < 1490910217 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pouti:Pouti is boily's brother. He's also Canadian, and he closes the Roujo pointer loop. < 1490910229 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Lifetimes, stop it, im simply trying to make a lua function in rust, but lifetimes wont let me ) < 1490910234 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grwp smart | wc < 1490910235 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 10 54 < 1490910236 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily has a brother? < 1490910242 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp smart < 1490910243 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++:Along with C, C++ is a language for smart people. < 1490910256 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? C < 1490910257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1490910261 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :... somewhat amazed that wisdom isn't more smart than that. < 1490910277 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? assembly < 1490910278 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assembly? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490910281 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? asm < 1490910282 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :asm? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490910295 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: it's a nop < 1490910315 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp assembly? < 1490910317 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1490910324 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp asm? < 1490910326 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1490910332 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y u no entry < 1490910343 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, somebody started writing the wisom entry in assembly but they're still working on the program initialization part. < 1490910343 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :asm deserves more segfaults than C < 1490910373 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wisdom < 1490910471 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what assembler does hackego have? < 1490910480 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51624&oldid=51360 5* 03Slord 5* (+11) 10Added LINR < 1490910482 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`as < 1490910544 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1490910550 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION trys to remember the command to download a file to ego the hack
< 1490910556 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type as < 1490910557 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is /usr/bin/as < 1490910563 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help fetch < 1490910563 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch [] " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1490910579 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch https://pastebin.com/raw/5pEV4X5h < 1490910581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LINR14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51625&oldid=51623 5* 03Slord 5* (+4) 10 < 1490910581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2017-03-30 20:49:36 URL:https://pastebin.com/raw/5pEV4X5h [601] -> "5pEV4X5h" [1] < 1490910582 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1490910584 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, just `help, but it's in there. < 1490910594 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`as 5pEV4X5h < 1490910596 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5pEV4X5h: Assembler messages: \ 5pEV4X5h: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted \ 5pEV4X5h:1: Error: no such instruction: `section .text' \ 5pEV4X5h:2: Error: no such instruction: `global _start' \ 5pEV4X5h:6: Error: too many memory references for `mov' \ 5pEV4X5h:7: Error: too many memory references for `mov' \ 5pEV4X5h:8: Er < 1490910602 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :REEEEEEE < 1490910630 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` as --version < 1490910631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU assembler (GNU Binutils for Debian) 2.25 \ Copyright (C) 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ This program is free software; you may redistribute it under the terms of \ the GNU General Public License version 3 or later. \ This program has absolutely no warranty. \ This assembler was configured for a target of `x86_64-linux-gnu'. < 1490910640 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :note the last bit < 1490910661 0 :alakra!~alakra@admin.angelolakra.com QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.4 < 1490910677 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though it's not complaining about registers and instructions yet) < 1490910694 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le//rn assembly//Assembly is a land of Segmentation Faults and insanity. < 1490910696 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'assembly': Assembly is a land of Segmentation Faults and insanity. < 1490910699 0 :alakra!~alakra@2604:a880:0:1010::f5:f001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490910708 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that masm syntax... < 1490910714 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1490910716 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` nasm --help < 1490910717 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: nasm: command not found < 1490910729 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `fetch < 1490910730 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`fetch? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490910736 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fetch < 1490910737 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fetch? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1490910738 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1490910739 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp fetch < 1490910741 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1490910748 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote fetch < 1490910749 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1490910752 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1490910759 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i want to build and set up NASM on hackego < 1490910773 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even a dog-fetching-stick quote? < 1490910778 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think of `edit? < 1490910782 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. good shavention, huh? < 1490910784 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shaventions < 1490910785 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shaventions include: before/now/lastfiles, culprits, hog/{h,d}oag, le//rn, tmp/, mk/mkx, sled/sedlast, spore/spam/speek/sport/1, edit. Taneb did not invent them yet. < 1490910790 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -RiEle abilit wisdom < 1490910792 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/erlang \ wisdom/\oren\ \ wisdom/🐐 \ wisdom/sense \ wisdom/feather \ wisdom/notsuredom \ wisdom/deniability \ wisdom/doublethink < 1490910795 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except fizzie reinvented it. < 1490910812 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's edit? < 1490910818 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `edit < 1490910819 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`edit gives you a url, then in your browser: (1) Press Sync (unless making a new file) (2) Make your changes (3) Press Save (4) Paste the command line at the top into the channel. < 1490910823 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dpkg < 1490910824 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dpkg: error: need an action option \ \ Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*]; \ Use 'apt' or 'aptitude' for user-friendly package management; \ Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values; \ Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options; \ Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb fi < 1490910836 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we finally get an old-school line editor, BASIC/APL style? < 1490910836 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... < 1490910842 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought we get an in-IRC line editor < 1490910862 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to make that and then decided that this would be simpler. < 1490910901 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, (trying) to compile and set up NASM on hackeho < 1490910926 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: have you considered yasm instead? < 1490910948 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like nasm. But i'll peek at it < 1490910978 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony: http://yasm.tortall.net/ < 1490910997 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yea, i'll compile YASM instead i guess < 1490911004 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that what you want? :P < 1490911054 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490911083 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it doesn't matter to me < 1490911188 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1490911204 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellovilion[1] < 1490911442 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP. < 1490911469 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tries abain, this time redirecting to a log file* < 1490911563 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP. ./configure is unable to finish running in time < 1490911757 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LINR14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51626&oldid=51625 5* 03Slord 5* (+55) 10 < 1490911764 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: http://sprunge.us/dDjS?gas works < 1490911767 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone tell me what that plastic flute thing that can in Captin Crunch packs and could be used to generate 2600Hz was called? < 1490911794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LINR14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51627&oldid=51626 5* 03Slord 5* (-68) 10removed duplicate sentence < 1490911804 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: a whistle? < 1490911818 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 2600 < 1490911819 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2600 Hz is a tone made by Captain Crunch's whistle. < 1490911834 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits 2600 < 1490911841 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachäf zzo3̈8 < 1490911853 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: yeah, but I think it had more spefic name or description. Was it two tone whistle or? < 1490911894 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno. i only eat Lucky Captain Rabbit King cereal < 1490911903 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that doesn't come with a whistle < 1490912004 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think washing machines are magic < 1490912080 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :bosun whistle it was called. Was looking for that. < 1490912081 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/04/news/companies/samsung-exploding-washing-machines/ <-- agreed < 1490912109 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: is that from a Zelda game? < 1490912341 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: to answer your earlier question, no, I don't listen to analysts < 1490912392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I'm an expert in the sociological theory of member-impostor differentiation < 1490912422 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the field studied in ) < 1490912550 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1490912826 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :bo'sun whistle and not as I know of wob_jonas < 1490912889 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zdpds6j6modvj8.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1490912966 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in an hour they're gonna launch a rocket < 1490912988 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a used rocket < 1490912989 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: who is? Space X? < 1490912993 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :space X < 1490913013 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, first reuse, that is pretty big step < 1490913030 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a falcon 9 that was used to put a satellite up will be used on another one < 1490913155 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they going to get it into that sats final orbit or just to a much easier transfer orbit? < 1490913212 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second stage does the full orbit < 1490913255 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first stage, which is reused, moslty just goes up into space and I think halfway to orbital velocty < 1490913273 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then comes down and lands on a ship < 1490913275 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :geosynchronus or kepler rosette orbit like those iridum satelites are in? < 1490913296 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a ship? You mean big unmanned barge, no? < 1490913296 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geostationary < 1490913306 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the drone ship < 1490913335 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are they launching from? < 1490913499 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Florida < 1490913599 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cape Kennedy < 1490913674 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LINR14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51628&oldid=51627 5* 03Slord 5* (+110) 10clarification on new lines in code < 1490914367 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there high-level quantum languages yet I wonder? < 1490914391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[do high-level programming languages even look different when quantumified?] < 1490914397 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[quantized?] < 1490914409 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :reversible < 1490914440 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know < 1490914474 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1490914500 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i http://algorithmicassertions.com/post/1703 < 1490914506 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like scowntum < 1490914590 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Oh, yeah. < 1490914599 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still doesn't understand i,i
< 1490914615 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1490914615 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the capitalized version looks like an owl face to me: I,I < 1490914631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LINR14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51629&oldid=51628 5* 03Slord 5* (+35) 10 < 1490914713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The 2D origin (0,0) is sometimes called "The Owl" < 1490914720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 3D origin is the Springfield Owl, apparently. < 1490914769 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're dealing with quantum variables, the language couldn't possibly be normal, since otherwise you'd be cloning things < 1490914856 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1490914984 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsZSXav4wI8 < 1490915037 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual video starts art 6:07 right now they're just playing some weird ass music < 1490915038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1490915486 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tee minus 16 minutes < 1490915522 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LINR14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51630&oldid=51629 5* 03Slord 5* (+0) 10/* Example Code */ < 1490915543 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LINR14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51631&oldid=51630 5* 03Slord 5* (+0) 10/* Execution Order */ < 1490915568 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490915580 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :„Of course I love you“ <- nice name for the drone ship < 1490915609 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course I _still_ love you < 1490915611 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1490915653 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LINR14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51632&oldid=51631 5* 03Slord 5* (+31) 10 < 1490915862 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1490915894 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is tuned into the launch of reused Falcon 9 rocket Space X webcast (see spacex.com/webcast )
< 1490916031 0 :orby!32e0e343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.224.227.67 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1490916052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LINR14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51633&oldid=51632 5* 03Slord 5* (+104) 10Added categories < 1490916080 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 minutes < 1490916263 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tee minus 3 minutes < 1490916428 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 seconds < 1490916436 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably even less, there's some delay) < 1490916470 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooooooo! < 1490916476 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rocket up < 1490916525 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 JOIN :#esoteric < 1490916635 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f < 1490917058 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they caught the part that comes down < 1490917140 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now the famous guy is giving the speech of how important it is < 1490917158 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1490917402 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame about that satelite video uplink from the „Of Course I Still Love You“ drone ship < 1490917453 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they need to invent rocket flame proof cameras < 1490917496 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasnt the cameras that went down, the air buffetting caused the atenna on the drone ship to miss alignment < 1490917657 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would thought they would use a stabilized buyo half a kilometer away for that atenna. Just use a fiber optic cable from the drone ship to it. < 1490917704 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :could even stick an extra camera on that buyo to get a wider perspective. < 1490917869 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah that SES-10 satelite is going to provide some massive frequency bandwidth < 1490918316 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds