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00:06:03 * hppavilion[1] continues to struggle to learn quantum physics
00:07:25 <hppavilion[1]> Hm, I wonder if I can get fun things by applying the fallacy "If there is an X based on Y, then there is also an A X based on A Y of proportional significance" to https://www.xkcd.com/435/
00:08:39 <hppavilion[1]> Quantum Sociology is just applied Quantum Psychology; Quantum Psychology is just applied Quantum Biology; Quantum Biology is just applied Quantum Chemistry (a potentially-real thing!); Quantum Chemistry is just applied Quantum Physics
00:08:49 <hppavilion[1]> And then it's just mathematics on top.
00:08:49 <wob_jonas> `? up goer
00:08:50 <HackEgo> up goer? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
00:09:12 <hppavilion[1]> Because mathematics is co-atomic.
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00:38:22 <\oren\> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
00:38:34 <\oren\> they want the numbers in the json to be rounded
00:38:38 <\oren\> WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYy
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00:52:16 <hppavilion[1]> I want reverse safesearch...
00:52:33 <hppavilion[1]> I looked up "ASCII Table", and DuckDuckGo told me that SafeSearch had filtered some results
00:52:40 <hppavilion[1]> I want to see *just* those results now.
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01:03:06 <shachaf> `olist 1069
01:03:07 <HackEgo> olist 1069: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
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01:04:21 <shachaf> oerjan: you joined right after an olist hth
01:04:48 <shachaf> 17:03:28 <HackEgo> olist 1069: [redacted]
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01:04:58 <oerjan> i noticed.
01:05:06 <shachaf> Ah.
01:06:31 <shachaf> `? oerjan
01:06:32 <HackEgo> Your omnipleasant principal witty rant oerjan the exclusive is a hazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he can ever rememe. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing it.
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01:07:30 <shachaf> `swrjan s.rant.arrant knave.
01:07:32 <HackEgo> oerjan//Your omnipleasant principal witty arrant knave oerjan the exclusive is a hazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he can ever rememe. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing
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01:09:03 <shachaf> `swrjan s.exclu.inci.
01:09:05 <HackEgo> oerjan//Your omnipleasant principal witty arrant knave oerjan the incisive is a hazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he can ever rememe. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing i
01:09:12 <shachaf> oops
01:09:36 <shachaf> someone else fix it hth
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01:12:38 <oerjan> `swrjan s/l/h/;s/cis/decis/;s/can //;s/meme/&s/
01:12:41 <HackEgo> oerjan//Your omnipheasant principal witty arrant knave oerjan the indecisive is a hazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who dislikes Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he ever rememes. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing it
01:12:42 <int-e> . o O ( He puns without giving notice. )
01:13:26 <oerjan> `swrjan s/lik/s/
01:13:28 <HackEgo> oerjan//Your omnipheasant principal witty arrant knave oerjan the indecisive is a hazy expert in merry compaction. Also a Glaswede who disses Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance; but lately it's the only word he ever rememes. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing it.
01:15:38 <shachaf> oerjan is an expert in merry compaction?
01:16:48 <int-e> . o O ( `learn_append oerjan//See also https://www.xkcd.com/1683/ )
01:17:14 <shachaf> oerjan: When should I compact my SSTables?
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01:17:51 <oerjan> whenever you feel like it hth
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05:54:51 <hppavilion[1]> Are there any uncountably-infinite sets of positive reals with a finite sum?
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06:08:28 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: no.
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06:09:03 <oerjan> note that to have a finite sum, only finitely many can be > 1/n, but then all of them are a countable union of finite sets
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06:54:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[LINR]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51634&oldid=51633 * Slord * (-3) Fixed typo
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07:10:33 <hppavilion[1]> `? earth
07:10:34 <HackEgo> earth? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
07:11:13 <hppavilion[1]> `le/rn earth/Topologically speaking, the earth has been a coffee mug ever since that hole to China was dug.
07:11:14 <HackEgo> Usage: `le/[/]rn <key>//<wisdom>
07:11:19 <hppavilion[1]> `le/rn earth//Topologically speaking, the earth has been a coffee mug ever since that hole to China was dug.
07:11:21 <HackEgo> Learned 'earth': Topologically speaking, the earth has been a coffee mug ever since that hole to China was dug.
07:11:39 <hppavilion[1]> `le/rn earth//Topologically speaking, the Earth has been a coffee mug ever since that hole to China was dug.
07:11:41 <HackEgo> Relearned 'earth': Topologically speaking, the Earth has been a coffee mug ever since that hole to China was dug.
07:14:11 * hppavilion[1] . ∅ ∅ ( Hm, I suppose the existence of underground tunnels technically makes earth a genus <some huge number> object )
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07:26:15 <hppavilion[1]> I forget, was "Tubular" ever a slang the way "Radical" and "Far-out" were?
07:31:17 <rdococ> hi hp
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09:47:27 <b_jonas> `? zelda
09:47:29 <HackEgo> zelda? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
09:47:33 <b_jonas> `? link
09:47:35 <HackEgo> link? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
09:47:51 <b_jonas> `? ganon
09:47:52 <HackEgo> ganon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
09:50:02 <shachaf> `` dowg | grep 'oerjän' | grep `learn` | shuf -n1
09:50:05 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/learn: line 4: wisdom/: Is a directory \ grep: '':: No such file or directory
09:50:20 <shachaf> uh
09:50:21 <shachaf> `` dowg | grep 'oerjän' | grep '`learn' | shuf -n1
09:50:28 <HackEgo> 7048:2016-02-29 <oerjän> ` ln -s \'`learn\' wisdom/learn
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09:50:35 <shachaf> `` dowg | grep 'oerjän' | grep '> `learn' | shuf -n1
09:50:42 <HackEgo> No output.
09:50:48 <shachaf> right
09:50:50 <shachaf> `` dowg | grep 'oerjän' | grep '> learn' | shuf -n1
09:50:57 <HackEgo> 9032:2016-09-13 <oerjän> learn HILTER is what happens when someone combines argumentum ad hitlerum, shouting, and muphry\'s law in one glorious clusterfuck.
09:51:03 <shachaf> `` dowg | grep 'oerjän' | grep '> learn' | shuf -n1
09:51:10 <HackEgo> 6642:2016-02-08 <oerjän> learn Chthonic lithping can be vethy dithturbing to lithten to.
09:51:16 <shachaf> `` dowg | grep 'oerjän' | grep '> learn' | shuf -n1
09:51:17 <shachaf> `` dowg | grep 'oerjän' | grep '> learn' | shuf -n1
09:51:18 <shachaf> `` dowg | grep 'oerjän' | grep '> learn' | shuf -n1
09:51:24 <HackEgo> 9056:2016-09-19 <oerjän> learn Homophones are pairs of words that sound totally gay together.
09:51:26 <HackEgo> 9197:2016-10-08 <oerjän> learn \xc3\x96rjan is oerjan\'s Nazi clone. He helps run the secret base on the backside of the moon.
09:51:29 <HackEgo> 8983:2016-08-27 <oerjän> learn NP-complete is the subset of NP to which all problems in P can be reduced, thus completely solving them.
09:53:23 <shachaf> `? NP-complete
09:53:24 <HackEgo> NP-complete is the subset of NP to which all problems in P can be reduced, thus completely solving them.
09:54:48 <int-e> :-/
09:55:15 <int-e> is a wisdom entry allowed to be utterly and completely wrong?
09:56:49 <int-e> (Though I guess it's not clear whether it's wrong. Hmm hmm.)
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10:10:21 <olsner> are they allowed not to be?
10:10:34 <shachaf> int-e: I think the only wrong part is the word "the"
10:11:01 <shachaf> Ah, and the "thus completely solving them"
10:11:08 <int-e> shachaf: it depends in P = NP though, which may be exactly the point.
10:11:20 <int-e> oerjan can be wicked sometimes.
10:11:29 <int-e> or most of the time.
10:11:49 <shachaf> I suppose.
10:12:00 <shachaf> Classic oerjan.
10:12:13 <shachaf> `1 dowg | grep 'oerjän> learn' | shuf -n5
10:12:21 <HackEgo> 1/2:718:2012-09-28 <oerjän> learn itidus19 disappeared into a space-time anomaly \ 8586:2016-06-23 <oerjän> learn A guillible person is someone who can be fooled with a Scheme script. \ 8525:2016-06-18 <oerjän> learn Associativity means that h(th) = (ht)h, if you\'re flexible about it. \ 7280:2016-03-25 <oerjän> learn HTML is shor
10:12:23 <shachaf> `n
10:12:24 <HackEgo> 2/2:t for "hope this mess loads" \ 9285:2016-10-15 <oerjän> learn Umlaut is German for "hum aloud", an important feature of the German language. It is indicated by putting two dots over the vowel of the syllable.
10:30:04 <int-e> flexible, hmm
10:43:45 <Taneb> `? html
10:43:46 <HackEgo> HTML is short for "hope this mess loads".
10:47:26 <pledis> Lol
10:51:21 <Taneb> I saw the cut-off version and all I could think of was Shor's algorithm
10:51:25 <Taneb> `? shor's algorithm
10:51:26 <HackEgo> shor's algorithm? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
10:53:50 <pledis> .g shors algorithm
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11:12:15 <Taneb> pledis, Quantum algorithm for prime factorisation
11:12:50 <pledis> rip
11:13:00 <pledis> me a nobrainer but thanks
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11:49:37 <boily> `wisdom
11:49:39 <HackEgo> gotton//gotton is a quantum of attention. Solain drives the packet.
12:03:57 <Taneb> I wonder if there's anywhere selling bound collections of man pages
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12:29:08 <Jafet> `le/rn shor's algorithm//Shor's algorithm allows a quantum computer to factor large integers, such as 21. Taneb thought of it.
12:29:10 <HackEgo> Learned 'shor's algorithm': Shor's algorithm allows a quantum computer to factor large integers, such as 21. Taneb thought of it.
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12:36:40 <Jafet> (related: “a new proof that 83 is prime” http://cr.yp.to/talks/2003.03.23/slides.pdf)
12:39:07 <FireFly> haha
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13:49:24 <b_jonas> `? monocles
13:49:25 <HackEgo> monocles? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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15:03:21 <b_jonas> Ever week, DMM publishes four new strips and three reruns of Irregular Webcomics. And he reruns strip in the order of the original publication. I think that means that even though the number of unreran strips grow every week, an infinite time from now all the strips will have been reran.
15:04:49 <Taneb> b_jonas, it's conceivable that he at some point fully retires from comic creation
15:05:17 <b_jonas> Taneb: he did retire from Irregular Webcomic once already.
15:06:00 <b_jonas> The four new Irregular strips a week is the current situation, after he's retired from Irregular, while he's still working on other comics.
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15:11:44 <orby> howdy all
15:12:23 <DHeadshot> hellorby
15:16:58 <Taneb> `quote Taneb
15:16:59 <HackEgo> 384) <Taneb> Turned out he got recursion, he just didn't get the return statement \ 390) <Taneb> Cut to February <Taneb> War were declared <Taneb> A galaxy in turmoil <Taneb> Anyway, Febuary '10 \ 391) <Taneb> I can't afford one of those! <Taneb> A grandchild, not a laser printer \ 397) <fizzie> There's that saying that the definition of insani
15:19:41 <int-e> `quote insanity
15:19:42 <HackEgo> 397) <fizzie> There's that saying that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [...] <Taneb> You've just gave me a different result [...] <fizzie> It's always insane to expect different results, even when it's likely to occur.
15:22:05 <b_jonas> `quote
15:22:06 <HackEgo> 114) <ivancastillo75> Oh I get it you guys just use this space to do nothing ?
15:23:09 <Taneb> Is it weird I still think of myself as someone who's quite new here?
15:23:21 <Taneb> I've been approximately active on this channel for 7 years or so now
15:24:31 <int-e> I have no clue what precisely we're doing here.
15:24:42 <int-e> But I wouldn't ascribe that feeling to being new :)
15:26:25 <Taneb> :)
15:26:30 <b_jonas> I'm not sure how long I've been here
15:26:36 <DHeadshot> Taneb: If you're new, what does that make me?
15:26:56 <Taneb> DHeadshot, not here yet
15:27:01 <Taneb> ;P
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16:04:30 <moony> Morning
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16:11:17 <orby> morning morning
16:11:51 <moony> I've had the idea of making a esolang that only lets you use the various operations FILT (particle from The Powder Toy) has (with unlimited operators each time) on 29-bit words
16:11:57 <moony> and variables of course
16:12:44 <oerjan> int-e: `? NP-complete is part of a series, it needs to be read with the rest.
16:12:48 <oerjan> `? NP-complete
16:12:50 <HackEgo> NP-complete is the subset of NP to which all problems in P can be reduced, thus completely solving them.
16:12:52 <oerjan> `? NP
16:12:53 <HackEgo> NP is the complexity class of decision problems that are No Problem.
16:13:01 <oerjan> `? P
16:13:02 <HackEgo> P is the complexity class of Problems. They can be solved by reduction to NP.
16:13:19 <moony> It would make for a intresting challange to see if basic math is possible, and, thanks to the existance of FILT having a randomizer mode, randomizers would be cheap :P
16:13:28 <oerjan> hellorby
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16:15:35 <int-e> oerjan: it seems to me that it was more interesting in isolation :P
16:15:55 <oerjan> OKAY
16:16:34 <int-e> but perhaps unintentionally so :P
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16:17:35 <oerjan> that girl genius battle is looking more and more like magic rather than science.
16:17:52 <oerjan> even mad science.
16:20:02 <oerjan> `? earth
16:20:03 <HackEgo> Topologically speaking, the Earth has been a coffee mug ever since that hole to China was dug.
16:20:20 <oerjan> hppavilion[1] is starting to get the hang of it
16:20:35 <moony> `? rust
16:20:36 <HackEgo> Rust is C++ as designed by the makers of Haskell.
16:21:01 <oerjan> `dowg rust
16:21:08 <HackEgo> 10547:2017-03-30 <wob_jonäs> revert \ 10546:2017-03-30 <moonythedwar̈f> le//rn rust//Rust is C++, but Python, but Extensible, but Memory safe, but designed by the makers of haskell \ 5911:2015-08-18 <tsweẗt> learn Rust is C++ as designed by the makers of Haskell. \ 5910:2015-08-18 <tsweẗt> learn Rust is what Haskell would be if it were C++.
16:21:30 <oerjan> moony: i don't you had the hang of it with that one hth
16:21:33 <oerjan> *don't think
16:21:44 <moony> mm.
16:24:11 <oerjan> @tell hppavilion[1] <hppavilion[1]> I forget, was "Tubular" ever a slang the way "Radical" and "Far-out" were? <-- the surfer characters on mezzacotta use it, i think, so maybe it was surfer slang?
16:24:11 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
16:24:48 <b_jonas> ``` echo bin/*[cC]ar*
16:24:49 <HackEgo> bin/card-by-name bin/random-card
16:25:25 <oerjan> `cat bin/random-card
16:25:26 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ exec perl -e'open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?mi:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print($c[rand(@c)] || "No card found.");' -- "$1"
16:26:17 <oerjan> `cat bin/card-by-name
16:26:18 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ exec perl -e 'open$I,"<","/hackenv/share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die;$/=""; while(<$I>){/\A(?i)\Q$ARGV[0]/ and print}' "$1"
16:26:40 <b_jonas> random-card searches in the full text as it appears in that file, including the reminder text
16:26:49 <b_jonas> card-by-name searches at the start of the card name only
16:27:13 <b_jonas> also card-by-name prints all matching cards, whereas random-card prints a randomly chosen one
16:27:15 <oerjan> mhm
16:27:19 <b_jonas> `card-by-name
16:27:20 <HackEgo> ​"Ach! Hans, Run!" \ 2RRGG \ Enchantment \ At the beginning of your upkeep, you may say "Ach! Hans, run! It's the . . ." and name a creature card. If you do, search your library for the named card, put it into play, then shuffle your library. That creature has haste. Remove it from the game at end of turn. \ UNH-R \ \ A Display of My Dark Power
16:27:22 <b_jonas> prints all the cards
16:27:24 <b_jonas> `random-cadr
16:27:25 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: random-cadr: not found
16:27:26 <b_jonas> `random-card
16:27:27 <HackEgo> Authority of the Consuls \ W \ Enchantment \ Creatures your opponents control enter the battlefield tapped. \ Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under an opponent's control, you gain 1 life. \ KLD-R
16:29:15 <oerjan> b_jonas: hm, wouldn't #/usr/bin/perl -- work just as well as that shell wrapping?
16:29:50 <oerjan> `which perl
16:29:51 <HackEgo> ​/usr/bin/perl
16:30:01 <oerjan> oh wait
16:30:13 <oerjan> it needs the script name.
16:30:29 <oerjan> i guess it's getting that -- in that's the problem, then?
16:31:31 <b_jonas> `card-by-name abas.er
16:31:32 <HackEgo> No output.
16:31:47 <b_jonas> oerjan: nah, #!/usr/bin/perl would work find
16:31:49 <b_jonas> fine
16:31:55 <b_jonas> `random-card abas.er
16:31:55 <HackEgo> Alabaster Wall \ 2W \ Creature -- Wall \ 0/4 \ Defender (This creature can't attack.) \ {T}: Prevent the next 1 damage that would be dealt to target creature or player this turn. \ MM-C
16:32:32 <rdococ> sgn(æ) = i
16:34:11 <rdococ> any thoughts?
16:34:19 <rdococ> hellonas
16:35:23 <rdococ> if sgn(æ) = i, and the integral of sgn is abs+C, then |a+1| = |a| + i, which is interesting.
16:35:37 <rdococ> s/a+1/æ+1
16:35:44 <rdococ> s/a/æ overall.
16:36:17 <rdococ> if sgn(æ) = i, ænd the integræl of sgn is æbs+C, then |æ+1| = |æ| + i, which is interesting.
16:38:59 <oerjan> . o O ( "æ e i a." "æ e i a æ å!" )
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16:42:18 <rdococ> a æ e ı i ø o u y ¥
16:43:42 <rdococ> So, what is |æ|? We can assume that sgn(-æ) = -i, and |-æ+1| = |-æ| - i.
16:44:20 <rdococ> Ooh, interesting. sgn(-æ) = 1/sgn(æ).
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16:47:18 <rdococ> As a general rule of thumb, it seems that sgn(næ) = sgn(æ/-n). For example, sgn(3æ)=3i, and sgn(-æ/3)=1/((1/3)i)=3i. I think. Not sure.
16:48:24 <rdococ> Well, sgn(næ)=ni, and sgn(-næ)=-ni or -i/n.
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17:01:49 <\oren\> I thought that sgn(i) = i?
17:02:27 <rdococ> Hm.
17:02:37 <rdococ> then abs wouldn't be the integral of sgn anymore.
17:02:43 <rdococ> or would it?
17:02:48 <shapr> six pack integrals
17:03:07 <\oren\> because sgn(x) is usually defined as x/|x|
17:03:36 <\oren\> (with sgn(0) usually defined to 0)
17:03:52 <rdococ> sgn(æ) = æ/|æ| = æ/i?
17:04:03 <rdococ> Say |æ| = i, then.
17:04:26 <\oren\> absolute value of a complex number is its distance from 0
17:04:33 <\oren\> |i| = 1
17:04:42 <rdococ> ik
17:04:59 <rdococ> so æ is i away from 0
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17:05:20 <rdococ> . o O ( sgn(x) = x/|x| would also mean that sgn is coabs, rather than abs being cosign )
17:05:29 <rdococ> `? abs
17:05:30 <HackEgo> abs? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
17:05:34 <rdococ> `? absolute value
17:05:35 <HackEgo> The absolute value of a number, also known as its cosign, is its distance from zero regardless of direction. It shouldn't be negative, but Sgeo is trying to break that.
17:07:26 <\oren\> if complex numbers are vectors, sgn is the unit vector in a vector's direction
17:11:08 <\oren\> ooh
17:11:36 <\oren\> max(a,b) = a/2 + b/2 + |a - b|/2
17:13:32 <rdococ> Ooh, that's elegant.
17:14:43 <rdococ> You could extend the allowed range/domain/whatever of a and b to include stuff like max(i, 3).
17:15:04 <rdococ> Or, heck, max(i, 2i).
17:15:51 <rdococ> i/2 + i + |i/2 - i|/2 = 0.5i + 1i + |-0.5i|/2 = 1.5i + 0.5 = 0.25 + 1.5i.
17:16:08 <rdococ> s/0.5/0.5/2
17:16:14 <rdococ> s/0.5/2\0.5
17:16:39 <rdococ> . o O ( calculators could do with \ )
17:31:41 <\oren\> I once made a calculator program that had \, -+ (reverse -) and the v (reverse ^) operators
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17:32:34 <\oren\> mostly because I didn't knwo how to implement parentheses
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17:35:23 <rdococ> You don't need parentheses, just variables.
17:35:48 <rdococ> For example, x / (y + z) is equivalent to b=y+z; x/b
17:35:51 <LKoen> if you've already done everything else, a recursive call on top of your main function would probably be enough to add parentheses
17:36:42 <LKoen> rdococ: it's not *exactly* equivalent if the b is not bound to that statement
17:37:13 <rdococ> LKoen: What else would it be bound to in a calculator?
17:37:46 <LKoen> well, I mean, "b = 3; x / (y + z); b" and "b = 3; b=y+z; x/b; b" are not equivalent
17:38:22 <rdococ> er
17:38:22 <rdococ> k
17:38:47 <LKoen> something like "let b = y+z in x/b" would make it completely equivalent
17:39:45 <rdococ> s/b=y+z; x\/b/let b=y+z in x\/b
17:45:27 <moony> Ima try and implement a Reverse Polish Notation lib in rust for fun, and try and make it as flexible as possible (make it not just a calculator :P)
17:45:47 <rdococ> 3 2 + 4 /
17:46:00 <rdococ> or in the previous case, x y z +
17:46:02 <moony> yes, that thing
17:46:02 <rdococ> /
17:50:06 <\oren\> \\\\\\\\
17:50:18 <\oren\> //////////
17:50:21 <\oren\> \\\\\\\\\
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17:50:24 <\oren\> /////////
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17:51:23 <\oren\> zszszszszzszszsz
17:51:30 <rdococ> \.\.\.\
17:51:32 <rdococ> /////
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17:51:44 <rdococ> hipavilion[1]
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17:51:51 <rdococ> helloren
17:51:54 <rdococ> greetoen
17:51:55 <\oren\> %\%\%\
17:52:28 <\oren\> I should add a backward % to my font
17:52:39 <rdococ> that sounds good too
17:53:03 <rdococ> anyway, rather than reverse - you could have unary -
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17:54:37 <rdococ> Well, there are three options:
17:54:57 <rdococ> 1) reverse operators. 2) parentheses. 3) variables.
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17:55:13 <rdococ> okay, there's also 4) reverse polish notation
17:57:01 <rdococ> or 5) brainfuck interface
18:00:08 <\oren\> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/272826/comments/46 <-- IDIOT!
18:03:30 <\oren\> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/272826/comments/28 <- MORON
18:03:46 <\oren\> Of course the -o/-a endings are relevant to Spanish, Italian or
18:03:46 <\oren\> whatever Latin based language, but what about Japanese? The -o ending
18:03:46 <\oren\> is female and the -a ending is male...So it will simply not be
18:03:47 <\oren\> possible to make it work "globally" I fear..
18:04:18 <\oren\> WHAT KIND OF MORON THINKS JAPANESE HAS GENDER ENDINGS ON WORDS
18:04:46 <rdococ> You act like you're surprised.
18:05:08 <rdococ> Also, THEY'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT JAPANESE. THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ITS ROMANIZATION
18:06:29 <rdococ> Oh my god, just call them contributors... How flickeringly hard is it?
18:07:42 <rdococ> Two things are infinite in the universe. Human stupidity, and human judgementality.
18:08:02 <hppavilion[1]> Has anybody completed http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2009/10/22/ yet
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18:14:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * SirGatez * New user account
18:23:33 <oerjan> <int-e> flexible, hmm <-- yep!
18:27:26 <oerjan> . o O ( TETSUO! ... KANEDA! )
18:30:01 <oerjan> norwegian nmes in -a are usually feminine - except for the most stereotypical name of all, Ola.
18:30:19 <int-e> "TETSUO! and KANEDA! are a pair of catchphrases from the movie Akira, from an scene where the characters Kaneda and Tetsuo yell each other’s name. The phrases are often used as a forum game and spamming practise."
18:30:19 <oerjan> *names
18:30:26 <int-e> tdnh
18:30:40 <oerjan> int-e: the only thing that helps is reading the whole comic hth
18:31:00 <oerjan> oh movie. i haven't seen that.
18:31:19 <int-e> I think I have, actually, but a long time ago.
18:32:03 <int-e> oerjan: anyway I was wondering whether "flexible" had any hidden technical (mathematical) meaning in that context.
18:32:20 <oerjan> int-e: yes hth
18:32:25 <int-e> or whether it's just that associativity should have 3 instead of 2 variables.
18:33:26 <oerjan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible_algebra hth
18:33:45 <int-e> Yeah I should have found that earlier...
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18:34:39 <shachaf> oerjan: nmes = names in -a
18:34:44 <shachaf> oerjan: it all worked out hth
18:35:06 <oerjan> OKAY
18:35:37 <int-e> Unfortunately it appears that I sometimes have to type out questions before asking $google.
18:36:30 <oerjan> shocking
18:36:59 <shachaf> Hmm, does anyone else here read Matt Levine?
18:37:06 <shachaf> There should be a levinelist.
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18:38:54 <oerjan> `? shor's algorithm
18:38:55 <HackEgo> Shor's algorithm allows a quantum computer to factor large integers, such as 21. Taneb thought of it.
18:39:29 <shachaf> `dowg shor's algorithm
18:39:30 <oerjan> shachaf: it seems that your greppinf for my `learns has provoked other people into making good wisdoms tdh
18:39:35 <oerjan> *g
18:39:36 <HackEgo> 10564:2017-03-31 <Jafët> le/rn shor\'s algorithm//Shor\'s algorithm allows a quantum computer to factor large integers, such as 21. Taneb thought of it.
18:39:52 <rdococ> Of course he did.
18:39:55 <oerjan> although i'm not sure of the Taneb part.
18:40:10 <shachaf> fizzie: Can the \' escaping in HackEgo history be fixed somehow?
18:40:19 <rdococ> Out of curiosity, what is the algorithm for determing whether a subject is Tanebvented?
18:40:35 <oerjan> rdococ: i don't think Taneb has invented that yet
18:41:36 <rdococ> Taneb, can you invent it?
18:41:58 <shachaf> Taneb didn't invent Shor's algorithm, anyway.
18:42:02 <shachaf> Well, not according to that wisdom.
18:42:05 <shachaf> He just thought of it.
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19:05:55 <fizzie> shachaf: Which \' escaping is that?
19:06:07 <shachaf> fizzie: In the hg log
19:06:20 <shachaf> `` hoag | grep \'
19:06:22 <HackEgo> ​<Jafët> le/rn shor\'s algorithm//Shor\'s algorithm allows a quantum computer to factor large integers, such as 21. Taneb thought of it. \ <hppavilion[1̈]> le/rn absolute value//The absolute value of a number, also known as its cosign, is its distance from zero regardless of direction. It shouldn\'t be negative, but Sgeo is trying to break tha
19:06:43 <shachaf> `` hoag | grep \' | grep -v \\\'
19:06:47 <HackEgo> No output.
19:07:11 <shachaf> Of course, if you change it now, it'll be complicated to process historical hogs.
19:09:34 <fizzie> Oh, right, it's part of the actual message, I guess?
19:10:18 <fizzie> I was thinking it's just an output formatting issue.
19:10:56 <shachaf> It's in the commit message.
19:11:17 <shachaf> You'll need to rewrite history after you fix it.
19:11:23 <shachaf> twh
19:11:49 <fizzie> I might manage to fix it, but I'm not going to start rewriting history.
19:13:38 <shachaf> What, so scripts that rerun old commands from history will have to discriminate between pre- and post-fix commands?
19:14:14 <int-e> . o O ( Life is failing to be perfect. )
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19:19:33 <\oren\> hog log bog dog
19:20:09 <\oren\> frog wog pog fog blog
19:20:53 <\oren\> jog cog
19:22:03 <shachaf> not enough ws
19:22:13 <shachaf> fizzie likes commands that contain the letter w
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19:26:50 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl2Q_MceIUc&t=1368s
19:32:48 <int-e> oh cute, I found a chainsaw.
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19:35:27 <\oren\> int-e: chainsaw?
19:37:15 <int-e> chainsaw. A chainsaw of disappointment, to be precise.
19:37:53 <\oren\> you don't like haddaway - what is love slowed down?
19:53:11 <rdococ> lloovvee
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20:54:37 <hppavilion[1]> Hm
20:54:53 <hppavilion[1]> I have a python command-line tool that relies on an enormous library called PyMovie
20:55:15 <hppavilion[1]> Every time I start the program, there's a like 30-second overhead while the library is loaded, *every* time I run the command
20:56:15 <hppavilion[1]> Is there a way to cache the library so that it doesn't need to load so often? Like, have a host process that doesn't die (as often) to run the operation then have a simpler program as the command itself to trigger the server?
20:58:15 <moony> Hmm, i noticed HBL (Halting Binary Logic, i made it) again, and realise how many improvements could be made to the page :P
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21:05:34 <moony> `? brainfuck
21:05:36 <HackEgo> brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. The name is a euphemism for "beef". bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" | mklang --array
21:05:55 <moony> `? boolfuck
21:05:56 <HackEgo> boolfuck? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
21:10:49 <rdococ> `? bitchanger
21:10:51 <HackEgo> bitchanger? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
21:11:50 <moony> but yea, ima look over my HBL -> Boolfuck (semiconversion, due to halting problem shenanigns) translation.
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23:00:09 <shachaf> kmc: did you see http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tom7/abc/paper.pdf
23:06:02 <kmc> rad
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23:07:46 <kmc> COM is the best binary format
23:08:44 <Phantom_Hoover> my favourite binary format is that one created solely for nasm to flex all its binary format muscles
23:16:58 <zzo38> How is that format working?
23:17:19 <Phantom_Hoover> idk, read the nasm docs
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23:23:31 <shachaf> zzo38: Do you like this?
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23:25:15 <zzo38> I did not read it yet
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23:25:49 <int-e> hmm when I wrote ASCII-only code I cheated and patched it. So it is rather impressive
23:26:04 <int-e> (patching meaning I wrote self-modifying code)
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23:27:12 <zzo38> Yes, I like this
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23:47:48 <hppavilion[1]> I really like how gcd and lcm correspond to folding max and min over prime factorizations, respectively
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