00:00:07 <boily> Zarutellon, FirelloFly.
00:00:27 <boily> let me guess, it gets tricky with b = 0?
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00:02:13 <FireFly> boily: I don't think log base 0 is defined
00:07:07 <rdococ> I need to be able to reach 2^x with only e^, 10^ and their respective logarithms (along with the basic operators + - * /)
00:07:30 <rdococ> okay, there are also various trigonometry operations
00:09:24 <fizzie> 2^x = (e^(log 2))^x = e^((log 2) * x).
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00:29:14 <HackEgo> 2600//2600 Hz is a tone made by Captain Crunch's whistle.
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01:14:49 <Zarutian> boily: isnt that slightly off? One needs to cover one of the holes (do not recall which one) to get the 2600 Hz tone.
01:16:42 <Cale> It only says it's *a* tone, not that it's the only tone
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01:18:29 <rdococ> who knew heaven was between two slices of bread?
01:18:32 <HackEgo> rincewind//Rincewind is a wizzard. He likes potatoes.
01:19:29 <rdococ> `le//rn operation//Operation is the opposite of cooperation.
01:19:31 <HackEgo> Learned 'operation': Operation is the opposite of cooperation.
01:20:12 <rdococ> `le//rn wizzard//A wizzard is a blizzard wizard.
01:20:14 <HackEgo> Learned 'wizzard': A wizzard is a blizzard wizard.
01:23:12 <lambdabot> *** "blizzard" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
01:23:12 <lambdabot> n 1: a storm with widespread snowfall accompanied by strong
01:23:12 <lambdabot> winds [syn: {blizzard}, {snowstorm}]
01:23:12 <lambdabot> 2: a series of unexpected and unpleasant occurrences; "a rash of
01:23:14 <lambdabot> bank robberies"; "a blizzard of lawsuits" [syn: {rash},
01:23:28 <oerjan> i guess that fits rincewind.
01:24:04 <lambdabot> hppavilion[2] said 18h 5m 53s ago: You should see a doctor if that cough persists
01:24:36 <oerjan> hppavilion[2]: your connection should see a doctor first hth
01:27:44 <rdococ> Has it been updated on its malware vaccine, hppavilion[2]?
01:28:09 <boily> Chello, hellørjan, hppavellon[2].
01:28:26 <boily> . o O ( should it be Calello? )
01:28:40 <oerjan> i was wondering who you porthelloed.
01:30:01 <oerjan> hm isn't that an actual word?
01:30:57 <Zarutian> well it is a noun. And iirc South-Koreans eat a lot of fermented kale.
01:32:01 <oerjan> Zarutian: i was not speaking about kale hth
01:32:14 <Zarutian> oerjan: just having fermented thoughts about it?
01:32:42 <oerjan> no, i was still continuing my previous blathering.
01:33:07 <oerjan> trying to think of the correct porthello for Cale.
01:34:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Picofuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51678&oldid=51672 * Orby * (+785) /* Conjecture counterexample */
01:35:34 <HackEgo> After the London terrorist attacks of 2005, the Underground was completely evacuated. Without air resistance, the trains would go at blazingly fast speeds between the terminals. This is called a vacuum tube. Sadly, current technology doesn't let passengers travel that way.
01:36:07 <orby_> awesome news finding the counter example to that conjecture
01:36:17 * oerjan doesn't really like terrorism in the wisdom :(
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01:37:05 <rdococ> it's stone that's red.
01:37:06 <orby_> Though I think there's a small mistake in what you wrote, nothing too important though
01:37:14 <rdococ> also known as electricity without transistors
01:37:16 * Zarutian was going to suggest: many ticks for politics.
01:37:18 <rdococ> but then mesecons is that too
01:37:25 <oerjan> maybe i should read your post.
01:37:28 <orby_> I wrote about it on the talk page, easier to explain there
01:38:10 <orby_> I believe it is correctable without invalidating your point
01:38:15 <boily> kimchi is good, and I approve of Calló.
01:43:29 <boily> rdococ: you should learn French. a beautiful language, comes with the /ɲ/ sound!
01:44:59 <rdococ> Actually, I was designing a conlang, but meh.
01:45:10 <orby_> oerjan: I've got a 3 day weekend coming up. I'm going to write some tools including an interpreter to make writing RBF code easier.
01:45:25 <orby_> because it's a ridiculous pain in the ass verifying it by hand
01:46:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Picofuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51679&oldid=51678 * Oerjan * (+262) /* Conjecture counterexample */ Disagree
01:46:46 <oerjan> orby_: counterargument hth
01:47:43 <HackEgo> A is a village in Norway. The BBC invented it by not understanding things on top of letters.
01:48:13 <HackEgo> A w is everything a cow isn't.
01:48:37 <HackEgo> 10621:2017-04-12 <rdocöc> le//rn cocoa//A is a village in Norway. The BBC invented it by not understanding things on top of letters.
01:48:50 <orby_> oerjan: I am still not understanding. I get that the (a)*(b)* pattern ensures that the first a run iff b doesn't, but that's with the caveat that a doesn't shift
01:48:58 <rdococ> it's the opposite of the opposite of A.
01:49:24 <oerjan> orby_: no, it's with the caveat the A shifts iff it starts on a 1.
01:49:34 <boily> rdococ: first lesson: «mon aéroglisseur est plein d'anguilles.»
01:49:54 <rdococ> boily: may I have the zeroth lesson please?
01:50:17 <orby_> oerjan: oh duh, I see now. So if (a) executes then we know it exits pointing at a 1 specifically because it swaps and then shifts right.
01:50:31 <orby_> so the * toggles it to zero and (b) doesn't run
01:50:36 <orby_> ok, thanks. I get it now :)
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01:51:51 <oerjan> rdococ: you should learn enough category theory to understand that co- is _not_ simply negation twh
01:53:05 <orby_> mmmm, category theory
01:53:49 <orby_> I spent time in the company of an overzealous category theorist who was always trying to get me into it, but to date I've never spent any real time studying it
01:54:07 <boily> rdococ: zeroth lesson: «une pinte de rousse, svp!»
01:54:31 <oerjan> pourquoi non un bon vin blanc
01:55:19 <boily> oerjan: my old Japanese teacher used that one as an example of hard sounds to learn for a Japanese.
01:55:31 <boily> (also, «pourquoi pas un bon vin blanc» hth)
01:56:07 <boily> also beer tastes better than wine ^^
01:56:35 <oerjan> i wasn't paying attention.
01:58:44 <oerjan> hm google translate doesn't know this thing.
01:59:18 <oerjan> (is richard's red involved? i remember we drank that when i was in ontario.)
02:00:09 <oerjan> oh it seems to be rickard?
02:00:57 <oerjan> hm i see one-star reviews.
02:02:10 <boily> rousse is red. you've got blanche, blonde, ambrée, cuivrée, rousse, brune et noire.
02:02:49 <boily> rickard's red is quite good! as a summer beer to go with smoked meat, between two steamed slices of rye bread slathered in prepared mustard...
02:03:14 <boily> that and a side of coleslaw and a crisp pickle.
02:04:19 * oerjan was there in october/november, anyway.
02:04:46 <oerjan> although it was still warm by norwegian standards.
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03:21:14 <HackEgo> The Enrichment Center is required to remind you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake.
03:22:13 <rdococ> `le//rn glados//Hello, and again, welcome to the Aperture Science Computer Aided Internet Relay Chat & Enrichment Center. Please enjoy your stay at #esoteric, because you will never leave.
03:22:15 <HackEgo> Learned 'glados': Hello, and again, welcome to the Aperture Science Computer Aided Internet Relay Chat & Enrichment Center. Please enjoy your stay at #esoteric, because you will never leave.
03:23:06 <oerjan> `le/rn baby shower//Thanks to baby showers, the incidence of baby throwing injuries has greatly diminished.
03:23:09 <HackEgo> Learned 'baby shower': Thanks to baby showers, the incidence of baby throwing injuries has greatly diminished.
03:23:37 <HackEgo> HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. HackEgo is the slowest bot in all Mexico!
03:23:40 <fungot> rdococ: they say that a giant owl and a nimble hand, his face and ears and rides in a shop. the streets were broken and the outside observer's linear combination has no relevance. ( battle for the guard.
03:23:41 <HackEgo> fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason.
03:24:44 <rdococ> `le//rn aperture// A usually adjustable opening in an optical instrument, such as a camera or telescope, that limits the amount of light passing through a lens or onto a mirror.
03:24:46 <HackEgo> Learned 'aperture': A usually adjustable opening in an optical instrument, such as a camera or telescope, that limits the amount of light passing through a lens or onto a mirror.
03:24:52 <rdococ> `le//rn aperture//A usually adjustable opening in an optical instrument, such as a camera or telescope, that limits the amount of light passing through a lens or onto a mirror.
03:24:54 <HackEgo> Relearned 'aperture': A usually adjustable opening in an optical instrument, such as a camera or telescope, that limits the amount of light passing through a lens or onto a mirror.
03:25:15 <oerjan> yay the color warning worked
03:25:40 <HackEgo> unless essential for the entry's humor, they should: be understandable without the lookup key, be single spaced with no space at the end, and use proper capitalization and punctuation
03:25:53 <oerjan> please pay attention to the first point hth
03:27:00 <oerjan> `slwd aperture//s/./An aperture is a/
03:27:02 <HackEgo> aperture//An aperture is a usually adjustable opening in an optical instrument, such as a camera or telescope, that limits the amount of light passing through a lens or onto a mirror.
03:28:21 <oerjan> also that's a pretty boring wisdom whose only saving grace is that it doesn't refer to portal
03:36:31 <HackEgo> 10//10 = 10 in every base.
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03:58:42 <oerjan> i guess it special cases that
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04:05:53 <oerjan> <rdococ> @oeis 1.0 2.6382270745053704 6.9602420966531655 18.362699144502407 <-- tip: the "i" is for integer hth
04:10:23 <Jafet> `` cd wisdom && grep -RlE '[^.!?]$' .
04:10:49 <HackEgo> ./6 random numbers \ ./¯\(°_o)/¯ \ ./haskell \ ./scotland \ ./programmer's googol \ ./#programming \ ./mroman_ \ ./hydrogen \ ./wlcom \ ./burma \ ./flabberghast \ ./latex \ ./hand injuries \ ./schwa \ ./wat \ ./math \ ./ehlist \ ./mojibake \ ./otp \ ./@messages-loud \ ./gaspasjo \ ./log \ ./noping \ ./can't \ ./life \ ./adopted \ ./epsilon \
04:11:34 <oerjan> `` grwp -lE '[^.!?]$' #less verbose
04:11:36 <HackEgo> â`? \ `? `? \ _ÌÌÌ°_ÌÌ
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ͨÌÌ´Í \ ¯\_(ã)_/¯ \ ? \ ?? \ ð \ ð \ áá¿ \ ÌÌÍÌÌÌͦÌÍͪÍ̼̾ͦͨÍ
ÍÍÌ®Í̸̳Ì̤ÌÌ¯ÌªÌ¸ÌªÌ±Ì£Ì ÌºÌ¹ÍÌ©ÌÍÍÍÍÌÍ̪̮ÌÌÌ£ÍÌªÍ Í¢Í¢Ò̴̢_Ì¿ÌÍ£ÌͣͪÍÍÌÌÍÌÌÍ«ÌÍÌ£ÍÍÍÍ̪̪ÌÌÍÌÌ̻̥̫Ì̱ÌÍ̳̦̮Ì̲̥ÍÒÌ
04:13:04 <HackEgo> mroman_ is probably mroman but you can never be sure. (NSFW)
04:13:14 <oerjan> too many false positives
04:13:23 <HackEgo> <Phantom_Hoover> it's that place where they all wear kilts and chase haggises around whilst warding off the loch ness monster with bagpipes
04:13:41 <HackEgo> Hydrogen is what stars are made of. There's a conjecture that at the immense pressures inside Jupiter or Saturn, hydrogen might form a superconducting liquid metal.
04:14:15 <oerjan> `slwd hydrogen//s, $,,
04:14:17 <HackEgo> hydrogen//Hydrogen is what stars are made of. There's a conjecture that at the immense pressures inside Jupiter or Saturn, hydrogen might form a superconducting liquid metal.
04:14:28 <HackEgo> wisdom/hydrogen//Hydrogen is what stars are made of. There's a conjecture that at the immense pressures inside Jupiter or Saturn, hydrogen might form a superconducting liquid metal.
04:14:54 <HackEgo> ᛁᚿ \ ambiguous \ ghoul \ hydra \ if \ math \ o \ potatoes \ pronounceable c \ rhenium \ rules of wisdom \ semmelweis \ wealhtheow
04:15:22 <HackEgo> 1/1:If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss:
04:16:14 <HackEgo> Semmelweis saves the life of a hundred thousand birthgiving mothers by popularising This One Simple Trick. Doctors hate him for it.
04:16:47 <HackEgo> You are not allowed to take potatoes to Norway without a special permit.
04:17:00 <HackEgo> Ambiguous, from Greek 'ἀν-' lack of, and 'βιγός' clarity of meaning, means when something is unclear in its meaning. Antonym: biguous.
04:17:23 <HackEgo> Ghouls are undead that eat BRAINS. So basically, bog standard undead like zombies or wights, but with some fancy back story in the book that nobody reads.
04:17:41 <HackEgo> http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra0.xhtml , dire: http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml , theory: http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-27.1537.html http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2008-03-16.1534.ordinaux-et-hydres.html http://math.andrej.com/2008/02/02/the-hydra-game/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodstein%27s_theorem
04:18:36 <HackEgo> _ÌÌÌ°_ÌÌÍÍ̦̻ͬÌÍÌÌÍ¡_ͧÍÌÍÌ_ÍÍÍͧÍÌÌ̯Í̬̬̦̯_ÌÌÌͨÌÌ´Í
04:21:08 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/ $//' `grwp -l ' $' | grep -v rules`
04:21:09 <HackEgo> /bin/sed: can't read ᛁᚿ: No such file or directory \ /bin/sed: can't read ambiguous: No such file or directory \ /bin/sed: can't read ghoul: No such file or directory \ /bin/sed: can't read hydra: No such file or directory \ /bin/sed: can't read if: No such file or directory \ /bin/sed: can't read math: No such file or directory \ /bin/sed:
04:21:20 <oerjan> `` cd wisdom; sed -i 's/ $//' `grwp -l ' $' | grep -v rules`
04:21:24 <HackEgo> /hackenv/bin/grwp: line 2: cd: wisdom: Not a directory \ /bin/sed: can't read pronounceable: No such file or directory
04:22:41 <HackEgo> pronounceable c \ rules of wisdom
04:22:57 <oerjan> `slwd pronounceable c//s, $,,
04:22:59 <HackEgo> pronounceable c//int main open paren close paren open curly printeff open paren double quote pronounceable capital c is the most verbose esoteric language ever comma god help you if you try to code with it comma especially without newlines period double quote close paren semicolon close curly
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04:24:58 <oerjan> most/all of these are because of b_jonas's client, i think.
04:25:33 <oerjan> `cwlprits pronounceable c
04:25:51 <oerjan> i think that one just got cut off right at the space.
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04:40:50 <HackEgo> 10629:2017-04-12 <hppavilion[1̈]> sled bin/?//s/lowercase/lowercase2/ \ 10340:2017-02-24 <oerjän> sled bin/?//3s,``,`\\\\(`\\\\|$\\\\), \ 10261:2017-02-15 <oerjän> sled bin/?//11s/^/ / \ 10260:2017-02-15 <oerjän> sled bin/?//10s/^/ /;11ithen cat "$topic1"; \ 10259:2017-02-15 <oerjän> sled bin/?//4,$s/topic1/topic2/;10i elif [ -e "
04:42:26 <oerjan> `` grwp -l '' >tmp/wlist
04:42:54 <oerjan> `` cat tmp/wlist | lowercase2 | diff - tmp/wlist
04:42:56 <HackEgo> 49,50c49,50 \ < å \ < ä \ --- \ > Å \ > Ä \ 904c904 \ < ø \ --- \ > Ø \ 1441c1441 \ < xqelekcthzvbdbqr \ --- \ > XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR
04:43:29 <HackEgo> å is the same letter as Å, unless you're HackEgo and don't understand things on top of letters.
04:44:01 <HackEgo> Ø escaped due to a sensitive case bug.
04:44:18 <HackEgo> Å _is_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters.
04:44:35 <HackEgo> xqelekcthzvbdbqr? ¯\(°_o)/¯
04:44:54 <HackEgo> XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR? ¯\(°_o)/¯
04:45:00 <oerjan> `cat wisdom/XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR
04:45:12 <HackEgo> ^ \ @ \ brainfuck \ c++ \ C++ \ cat \ esolang \ esolangs \ #esoteric \ fs \ hth \ mapole \ `mislearn \ mycology \ ntitai \ random number \ tdnh \ the meaning of life \ tomfoolery \ wiki \ wisdom
04:45:33 <HackEgo> C++ is an attempt to improve upon C. The only thing it actually improved was memory management, and it made everything else worse.
04:45:37 <HackEgo> C++ is an attempt to improve upon C. The only thing it actually improved was memory management, and it made everything else worse.
04:45:48 <HackEgo> C++ is an attempt to improve upon C. The only thing it actually improved was memory management, and it made everything else worse.
04:46:00 <HackEgo> if [ -z "$1" ];then exec echo "I have nothing to tell you.";fi;f="tmflry/$(echo "$1" | lowercase)";if [ -h "$f" ];then exec tomfoolery `readlink "$f" | sed 's/^tmflry\///'`;fi;if [ -x "$f" ];then exec bash "$f";fi;if [ -r "$f" ];then exec cat "$f";fi;echo "I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking."
04:46:10 <HackEgo> I have nothing to tell you.
04:46:19 <HackEgo> I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking.
04:46:39 <HackEgo> @ is an OS made out of only the finest vapour.
04:47:03 <oerjan> `` cd wisdom; mv {Ä,ä}; mv '{Å,å}'
04:47:05 <HackEgo> mv: missing destination file operand after ‘{Å,å}’ \ Try 'mv --help' for more information.
04:47:19 <oerjan> `` cd wisdom; mv {Å,å}
04:47:37 <oerjan> `` mv bin/lowercase{2,}
04:47:48 <HackEgo> Å _is_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters.
04:49:02 <oerjan> the only thing destroyed was wisdom/å, which ironically no longer applies with this.
04:49:30 <oerjan> `` grep -l lowercase bin
04:49:38 <oerjan> `` grep -lR lowercase bin
04:49:50 <HackEgo> bin/learn \ bin/learn_append2 \ bin/mislearn \ bin/slashlearn \ bin/learn_append \ bin/multicode \ bin/? \ bin/?? \ bin/gs2.py \ bin/bookofeso \ bin/tomfoolery \ bin/password \ bin/disce \ bin/units
04:50:00 <oerjan> `` grep -lR lowercase2 bin
04:50:44 <oerjan> `` grep lowercase bin/multicode
04:50:45 <HackEgo> proplist = ['codepoint', 'name', 'category', 'combining', 'bidi', 'decomposition', 'dummy', 'digit_value', 'numeric_value', 'mirrored', 'unicode1name', 'iso_comment', 'uppercase', 'lowercase', 'titlecase'] \ if properties['lowercase']: \ properties['lowercase'] = unichr(int(properties['lowercase'], 16)) \ prop
04:51:11 <HackEgo> gen_sys_1.0-1:0 \ gen_sys_1.0-1:1 \ gen_sys_1.0-1:2 \ gen_sys_1.0-1:2.5 \ gen_sys_1.0-1:3 \ gen_sys_1.0-1:4 \ gen_sys_1.0-1:5
04:51:44 <HackEgo> bin/password: Python script, ASCII text executable
04:52:05 <HackEgo> bin/units: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, BuildID[sha1]=1ae1845559f9c796d5b1f3ba5fc7bcfe3a25ee6c, not stripped
04:52:18 <oerjan> `grep lowercase bin/password
04:52:59 <oerjan> `grep lowercase bin/password
04:53:18 <HackEgo> -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 121 Oct 28 18:37 bin/password
04:53:42 <oerjan> `` grep lowercase bin/password
04:53:42 <HackEgo> print "".join(random.choice(string.ascii_lowercase) for _ in xrange(15))
05:19:26 <HackEgo> invalid command ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
05:22:53 <HackEgo> bin \ games \ include \ lib \ local \ sbin \ share \ src
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06:41:26 <HackEgo> I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking.
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06:46:37 <hppavilion[2]> TIL Lie Algebras are *not* algebras that speak falsehoods
06:47:08 <hppavilion[2]> Or, more accurately, I learned that it's /liː/ ("lee"), not /laɪ/ ("Lie")
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07:41:26 <Jafet> I've heard that modern physics is heavily based on lies
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11:53:59 <b_jonas> oerjan: not a client issue. I type a space at the end of wisdoms that are full sentences because it's part of double-spacing sentences.
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11:55:25 <b_jonas> Or maybe it's not double spacing, but that I always want to put a space between words. It's like trailing comma in lists or something.
11:55:42 <b_jonas> And I have nothing to do with pronounceable c
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12:21:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[But Is It Art?]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51680&oldid=51674 * Int-e * (+807) /* Example */ add a candidate program for recognizing composite numbers
12:27:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[But Is It Art?]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51681&oldid=51680 * Int-e * (+30) /* Example */ actually use nybbles
12:29:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[But Is It Art?]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51682&oldid=51681 * Int-e * (-3) /* Example */ consistency
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16:19:24 <rdococ> did you figure out if it's art yet?
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16:20:09 <ais523> it *is* fairly beautiful as esolangs go
16:22:21 <rdococ> better than any crap I can concoct
16:23:10 <ais523> I like to think that the language is, itself, trying to form art from the input, too
16:23:18 <ais523> under the assumption that art is usually rectangular
16:23:23 <ais523> (which is true for many art galleries but not all)
16:26:36 <rdococ> honestly it looks like tetris
16:28:01 <ais523> I've been pondering how to write an interpreter
16:28:10 <ais523> and in particular, how much optimization I should attempt
16:28:17 <ais523> a brute-force-ish interpreter is fairly easy to write but would be very slow
16:31:21 <b_jonas> ais523: it all depends on what programs people write for it. if they eg. compile C programs to deterministic cellular automaton to art with simple square tiles, you could optimize for that.
16:31:51 <b_jonas> If instead people use nondeterminism all the time to simplify algorithms even for problems where a fast deterministic algorithm is known, then you're screwed.
16:32:22 <b_jonas> But most likely, people won't write any programs for art at all, and it remains a nice theoretical construct that doesn't need an interpreter.
16:33:56 <ais523> PPCG have been complaining about me not writing interpreters for my languages
16:40:43 <b_jonas> ais523: but isn't that for... somewhat practical languages only?
16:41:00 <ais523> think about polyglots, for example
16:41:21 <ais523> BIIA? slots into a polyglot really easily because it's fairly easy to ensure that the "rest" of the program is all one big tile
16:41:37 <ais523> and the tiles that are actually used for the BIIA program can be placed anywhere
16:41:54 <b_jonas> I mean, if you submit an answer to a PPCG challenge with code written in a language, then they can complain that they need an interpreter. But you haven't been submitting feather golfs, right?
16:43:18 <ais523> b_jonas: PPCG doesn't let you submit an answer to a challenge /at all/ unless there's an interpreter; and the answer doesn't count as valid unless the interpreter is older than the challenge
16:43:20 <b_jonas> ais523: well yes, but I'm not sure if adding a language into a polyglot really makes the polyglot better or more interesting if it's not a language that's used often for other purposes anyway.
16:44:04 <ais523> have you not seen our polyglot?
16:44:51 <ais523> we're still working on it, but here's a clear milestone: https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/113426/62131
16:45:03 <b_jonas> https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/102370/add-a-language-to-a-polyglot ?
16:46:50 <ais523> we have a lot of practical languages in there /and/ a lot of esolangs
16:47:03 <b_jonas> yeah... that's a bit extreme
16:47:32 <shachaf> Referral links on stackoverflow are scow.
16:51:15 <ais523> I'm used to using them for links from SE to itself, because everyone knows my username anyway
16:51:24 <ais523> and editing out the referral portion is a pain
16:51:29 <ais523> it's not like the referral even really /does/ anything
16:56:40 * shapr sets sail in a scow
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17:08:00 <b_jonas> ais523: sure it does. it gets you badges.
17:08:25 <ais523> you can only get them once IIRC; also they don't do anything either
17:09:26 <b_jonas> ais523: you can get it in multiples, even on the same site. and it's three different level of badges.
17:09:31 <b_jonas> and sure, the badges don't do anything.
17:10:12 <b_jonas> you could even get one for someone else if you put their userid in a link. it's not like SE puts a HMAC or something in the url to check validity.
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17:19:50 <moony> I wonder how factorio combinators would be represented as a programming language
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17:27:51 <rdococ> the Esoteric Game Jam: create a Turing Complete game in 1 week
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17:29:13 <rdococ> yay for lambda calculus
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17:29:35 <rdococ> you know, I once tried to turn brainfuck into lambda calculus
17:29:54 <rdococ> tbh I think it would be better off in a stack-based language
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17:33:56 <\oren\> I bought Adidas shoes. They seem good.
17:41:24 <rdococ> or, better yet, a binary tree
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17:50:25 <FireFly> green? red-black seems to be the more popular colour scheme
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17:58:19 <shachaf> But do they have a blatant logo on them?
17:58:19 <shachaf> That's one of the worst things about shoes.
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18:44:19 <HackEgo> U+0010 <control> \ UTF-8: 10 UTF-16BE: 0010 Decimal:  \ \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral)
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19:09:53 <Taneb> I am agonising help
19:12:16 <Taneb> I've finally actually applied for the PhD I've been working on my application since December
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19:13:23 <int-e> Taneb: I found a bug in the paper I'm writing. I have little sympathy for anyone else right now. So suck it up :-P
19:16:17 <Taneb> int-e, what's the paper on?
19:17:35 <int-e> the part that broke is a decision procedure for UN (with respect to reductions) for ground TRSs.
19:18:54 <Taneb> Can you explain? I don't know either of those acronyms, unless you're talking about the United Nations
19:20:51 <int-e> UN = unique normal forms, TRS = term rewrite systems. I'm not sure it helps... and right now my time is better spent on the paper instead of explaining basics.
19:22:19 <int-e> http://cl-informatik.uibk.ac.at/users/bf3/publications/2016-BF-IWC.pdf is a buggy version of the paper.
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20:18:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Picofuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51683&oldid=51679 * Orby * (+1256)
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20:25:59 <hppavilion[1]> Unicode has † and ‡, but not... wait, can't type it
20:26:10 <hppavilion[1]> It doesn't have an inverted dagger (AFAICT) to go with dagger and double-dagger
20:26:41 <quintopia> orthogonality is deeply satisfying in its symmetry
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20:57:41 <int-e> ^8ball do I have to get up early tomorrow?
20:57:54 <int-e> ^8ball can I get a second opinion on that?
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21:15:19 <rdococ> ^8ball abadaba cabadaba yabadaba nabadaba
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21:24:39 <shapr> quintopia: you coming to knitting tonight?
21:32:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Morsefuck]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=51684 * BlueOkiris * (+1229) /* Binary Version */ new section
21:34:24 <\oren\> @tell hppavilion[1] ⸶⸷⸸ are in unicode what are you talking about
21:36:45 <shapr> > let fibs = 1:1: zipWith (+) fibs (tail fibs) in take 15 fibs
21:36:47 <lambdabot> [1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610]
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21:39:35 <quintopia> i don't know anything about knitting
21:39:50 <shapr> that's why you should come to the knitting circle!
21:40:01 <quintopia> but what if i have no interest in it?
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23:03:25 <\oren\> I want AI-chan to play kerbal space program
23:03:37 <\oren\> everyone post on AI-chan's videos, アイちゃんお願い、Kerbal Space Program遊んでください！
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