< 1494115214 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Rao14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51878&oldid=51877 5* 03H3amza 5* (+1312) 10added section on functions. < 1494115310 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What question do you have of M:tG? The rules have been improved a lot since the original version; they are much more logical and mathematically elegant and so on than it used to be, although still there are problems they will probably never fix. The change to split cards rules makes sense, and when they changed madness also it makes sense (and I have idea if a puzzle can then require a different solution in the old or new rule) < 1494115343 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494115426 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the improved split card rules are much better than the old ones -- though I still sort of feel some tension because split cards are still strange rules-wise, but at the same time some split cards are nice and I want to use them (the old ones and fuse ones at least, not the new after math ones) < 1494115452 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of the things I like in split cards could be done almost as well without split cards, mind you, but those just haven't been printed. < 1494115488 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, I'd like Trial as a non-split card. < 1494115492 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I agree it is a bit strange. < 1494115514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1494115516 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, it's a stupid card, it should never have been printed, but once they printed it as a split card, I'd like it as a non-split card. < 1494115548 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as fuse and aftermath, there is a few card I made up having "fuseback" (meaning you can (and must) fuse it only casting from the graveyard, and then it is exiled after it leaves the stack if you do that). < 1494115597 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1494115600 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuse is fine, but I hate aftermath. < 1494115672 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also seen someone made up a permanent split card. < 1494115755 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK if that is what you like and what you hate, but then what of fuseback? < 1494115773 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, first an un-rules question. I use Blacker Lotus's ability to tear up a card and exile the pieces. Are the pieces a card? The comp rules used to have a sort of definition of what a card is, but they removed that. What happens if the opponent tries to use Cryptic Cruiser or Pull from Eternity on it? < 1494115829 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can use the definition of "card" that I want, but it still won't help. I think there is no answer. (It is a un-rules question anyways; such questions do not always have answers.) < 1494115994 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A second un-rules question. In un-games, when a rule or effect asks you to choose a number (including for damage assignment), you can choose a half-integer. This rule can affect games even if there's no sliver-bordered card anywhere. Is this the *only* such rule difference between un-games and normal games? < 1494116033 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1494116035 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: no, choice of colour < 1494116046 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: ah! good point < 1494116046 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :becase avatar of me can have non-traditional colors < 1494116052 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hazel or brown color < 1494116054 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1494116209 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even with my definition of a "card", it is unclear whether or not tearing the card is considered as a kind-changing effect, and even if it is not (which would seem by default), it does not specify what to do if you use Pull From Eternity and stuff like that.) < 1494116294 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps even creature types differ, as in you can choose Donkey as a creature type in an un-game but not in normal games, but that will rarely change anything, it only matters when almost all creature types are potentially in use in the game. < 1494116335 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Probably in un-cards you could use more creature types too. < 1494116518 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When playing Un-cards, there is no "proper" rules, only improper rules. < 1494116726 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there are various unofficial Un-cards such as these http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/uncards.txt and also some meaningless RoboRosewater cards, and then is even more confusing to figure out how to do it! < 1494116757 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have normal (non-un) rules question too. < 1494116789 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, what question? < 1494116816 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I'm trying to fine a sane example < 1494116838 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494116838 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, here < 1494116951 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an animated Muse Vessel and an Experiment Kraj. The Vessel gets a +1/+1 counter, then I use the first Vessel ability on Kraj, then the Vessel loses all counters, then later the Vessel gets a +1/+1 counter again, then can I use the second Vessel ability of the Kraj and access the card I exiled? < 1494117116 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, if you use it on Experiment Kraj. (But you can ask again to someone else later I suppose) < 1494117130 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :607.5 is probably the relevant rule < 1494117147 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rules are not clear enough to me it seems. But I will look at 607.5 now < 1494117170 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get a weirder version where instead of removing the counters, the Vessel phases out then later phases in. < 1494117216 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although it remains the same object in that case I will think. I think there are things that could be made clearer, including to consider an object's text as its AST; I think that would help a lot of things < 1494117247 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the Vessel gets Cytoshaped to an elephant, then the shaping times out; or the Vessel gets turned to a frog. < 1494117274 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, there is stuff like that. < 1494117307 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to have some comprehensive rule of how linked abilities work when an object can gain and lose it. < 1494117415 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that would help. You could make the suggestions, maybe. My own idea would be for the link to be part of the AST of the definition of those abilities, so they are linked in that way. You would then have to make up the mathematical model of it and then it can be clear. < 1494118003 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1494118286 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that's all the questions I have for today. Maybe more later. Good night. < 1494118304 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1494118734 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1494118851 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits emacs < 1494118866 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachäf < 1494119562 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1494119978 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1494120468 0 :augur!~augur@50.254.147.77 JOIN :#esoteric < 1494120871 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494121805 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1494121955 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ? < 1494122028 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just checking if you overwrote anything < 1494123947 0 :augur!~augur@50.254.147.77 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1494124615 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494124682 0 :primo!~primo@49.49.237.213 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1494125641 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1494125643 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mpiler//An mpiler takes an executable file and nverts it to readable form. < 1494125663 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmmpile you say ♪ < 1494125686 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmboily < 1494125817 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ørjannn. < 1494125824 0 :augur!~augur@50.254.147.77 JOIN :#esoteric < 1494125877 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my haskell is becoming steadily more evil < 1494125890 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f n=mapM(["<","~<~"]<$f)[1..n]!!n>>=id in f 10 < 1494125892 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<<<<<<~<~<~<~<" < 1494125940 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to PPCG -> < 1494126022 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, what's the point of dekolmogorofying a perfectly valid and simple string? < 1494126075 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dekolmogorofying? < 1494126079 0 :augur!~augur@50.254.147.77 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1494126104 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a function, not a string hth < 1494126119 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: does that involve using karnough maps in reverse? < 1494126158 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh. uh. eeeegh. uuuuurgh. evil, I say. < 1494126189 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the initial 1000/365 < 1494169512 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.73972602739726 < 1494169858 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: that the average American citizen consumes six pounds per day doesn't surprise me much. every time I cross the borders I get fatter :/ < 1494169874 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. < 1494169908 0 :mroman!b2c5e9e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.233.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the hell can you eat 3kg :( < 1494169919 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2011/12/31/144478009/the-average-american-ate-literally-a-ton-this-year <-- the funny thing is... the numbers in the article don't match up at all with the numbers in the link to the US D.A. site. Summing their numbers results in a much more reasonable 1.3kg estimate, excluding drinks. < 1494169920 0 :mroman!b2c5e9e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.233.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :100g meat, 100g rice/pasta, 100g vegetable < 1494169923 0 :mroman!b2c5e9e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.233.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a standard meal < 1494169929 0 :mroman!b2c5e9e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.233.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :300g < 1494169934 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494169972 0 :mroman!b2c5e9e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.233.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.7kg per day sounds like complete bullshit < 1494170061 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: the number is almost certainly bullshit. I bet the "americans eat 1t of food per year" headline is the actual source for that data. < 1494170067 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"data" < 1494170093 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now... if you include drinks... that changes the picture entirely. Perhaps they did that. < 1494170111 0 :mroman!b2c5e9e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.233.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drinks yes < 1494170114 0 :mroman!b2c5e9e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.233.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.5l a day < 1494170117 0 :mroman!b2c5e9e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.233.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 1.5kg a day < 1494170120 0 :mroman!b2c5e9e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.233.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 365*1.5 < 1494170123 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 547.5 < 1494170129 0 :mroman!b2c5e9e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.233.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1.5+1.3 < 1494170131 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.8 < 1494170140 0 :mroman!b2c5e9e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.233.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would add up yes < 1494170207 0 :mroman!b2c5e9e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.233.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would fit a ton almost perfectly < 1494170262 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the 1.3kg number isn't very exact. The tables measure vegetable intake in cups... useless.) < 1494170854 0 :mroman!b2c5e9e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.233.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.3kg sounds reasonable though < 1494171666 0 :spiette!~spiette@216-246-240-74.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494171823 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I never thought about it < 1494171830 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1494171837 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never thought about how much I drink compared to how much I eat < 1494171999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1494172599 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: didn't you know that cups are the new SI unit for vegetables? < 1494172655 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The base units are the meter (length), the kilogram (mass), the second (time), the amp (current), the kelvin (temperature), the mole (amount of substance), the candela (luminous intensity), and the cup (vegetables). < 1494173088 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1494173102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cuppa carrots < 1494173457 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1494173458 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :tasty < 1494173464 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is 1 cup though? < 1494173476 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like drinking cups, or...? < 1494173504 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, fruit should be measured in saucers < 1494173513 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :and meat should be measured in coffee machines < 1494173546 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and non sequiturs should be measured in orangutans < 1494173937 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494174222 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1494174315 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1494174687 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigello, hellørjan, hellorkin. < 1494174720 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: a cup is eight fluid ounces, but it gets rounded to eg. 250 ml in Canada, and 200 ml in Japan. < 1494174733 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there are other places that do rounding, but I forget which.) < 1494174751 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bood afternoily < 1494174771 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main difference between recipes here and France is that we do (almost) everything by volume, and they do it by weight. < 1494174887 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, and oven temperatures. 350 is natural. 175 makes no sense. < 1494174969 0 :Remavas!~Remavas@md-188-69-192-145.omni.lt QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1494174994 0 :Remavas!~Remavas@md-188-69-192-145.omni.lt JOIN :#esoteric < 1494174996 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:c09a:66b5:8723:b2b0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1494175059 0 :Remavas!~Remavas@md-188-69-192-145.omni.lt QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1494175080 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1494176018 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SURREPTITIOUS CHICKEN < 1494176505 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1494176675 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494176950 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494177637 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1494178211 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494178288 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :regular expressions are state machines. loops are also state machines. Why should they have different syntax? < 1494178335 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are loops state machines < 1494178469 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I may have had too much to drink < 1494178567 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it looks as though there are two states to a loop, looping and finished < 1494178981 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lot of other state in a loop < 1494179008 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. int i = 0; while(0) { i++; } has infinitely many states < 1494179016 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike regexes which are finite-state machines < 1494179156 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can a variant of a regular expression to be made where it is possible to define infinite families of states? < 1494179169 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try pushing all the infinite out of the model and calling it inputs < 1494179230 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the machinery puts it into a finite number of equivalency classes < 1494179258 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Gah sunshine < 1494179945 0 :asdfbot!~asdfghjkl@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1494181006 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork, that's... not how it works < 1494181021 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right < 1494181045 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is literally the difference between being turing complete and not < 1494181202 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494181470 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1494181615 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494182598 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1494182601 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot//fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason. < 1494182605 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1494182623 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APHic. < 1494182642 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo. < 1494182649 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no Hiccup at the Moment. < 1494182650 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shall i have? < 1494182756 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, your nick is difficult to porthello... < 1494182768 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APHelloc maybe? < 1494182893 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :HeyPic < 1494182908 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdochelloc. HeyPic is good. < 1494182958 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo < 1494182961 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily, heypic < 1494182980 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Heyver < 1494183726 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsoirly < 1494183922 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle! < 1494184448 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1494184526 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthellork: hi < 1494186789 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494186957 0 :mroman!b2c5e9e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.233.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1494188053 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lost several pounds being in japan for only two weeks < 1494188065 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyhting is tiny in japan < 1494188129 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, they don't add sugar to everything. a "black iced coffee" is something that only exists in japan to my knowledge < 1494188492 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ヘ\\オレン\! < 1494188498 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you at? < 1494188582 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently? toronto. < 1494188623 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. I thought you were still there. < 1494188626 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should see if starbucks even sells unsweetened iced coffee < 1494188656 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you enjoy your time over there? < 1494188737 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1494188852 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1494189630 0 :Soni!SoniEx2@unaffiliated/soniex2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1494189636 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1494189761 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494190162 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494190162 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1494190256 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1494190549 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494191278 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494191724 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1494192263 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1494192826 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PRINCIPAL CHICKEN < 1494193573 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494193792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1494195186 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1494195367 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1494195382 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1494195664 0 :bender!~Bender|@2405:204:200a:9aef:5d5e:ea8a:54a7:5850 JOIN :#esoteric < 1494196958 0 :bender!~Bender|@2405:204:200a:9aef:5d5e:ea8a:54a7:5850 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1494197102 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1494197209 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1494198377 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zdnykezgsw31ry.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1494198386 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NꙮW WITH MꙮRE MULTIꙮCULAR ꙮ < 1494198386 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1494198386 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1494198409 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1494198512 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1494198665 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1494198764 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1494199354 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :*.net *.split < 1494199355 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber QUIT :*.net *.split < 1494199383 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1494199506 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@spiritofcontradiction.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1494199531 0 :IRIXUser!?@? NICK :Guest12099 < 1494200465 0 :boily!~alexandre@192.222.245.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1494201033 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric