00:09:42 <boily> doo doo doo doo doo ♪
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00:38:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Ↄ]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=51891 * Oerjan * (+237) Moved from article
00:38:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Ↄ]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51892&oldid=51889 * Oerjan * (-237) Move to talk page
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00:41:32 <HackEgo> b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, mysterious, Odyssey, myopia, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, existence, heard, appropriate; and confuses these sets of words: then, than; drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute, delate; contiguous, continuous.
00:46:45 <wob_jonas> boily: a moment, I'm revising this
00:47:05 <oerjan> boily: obviously he couldn't spell it.
00:47:19 <wob_jonas> boily: see https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:B_jonas , dilate vs dilute is the main problem, but delate is a real word though very rare
00:48:09 <wob_jonas> `learn b_jonas can't spell/b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, myopia, hibernate, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; and confuses these sets of words: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; discret
00:48:12 <HackEgo> Learned 'b_jona': b_jonas can't spell/b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, myopia, hibernate, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; and confuses these sets of words: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuo
00:48:36 <wob_jonas> `slashlearn b_jonas can't spell//b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, myopia, hibernate, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; and confuses these sets of words: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; d
00:48:38 <HackEgo> Relearned 'b_jonas can't spell': b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, myopia, hibernate, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; and confuses these sets of words: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; d
00:48:40 <boily> en:dilate is fr:dilater, and en:dilute is fr:diluer, so they are easy to contrast :P
00:48:51 <HackEgo> b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, myopia, hibernate, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; and confuses these sets of words: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; d
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00:49:19 <HackEgo> kiki`: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
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00:49:45 <wob_jonas> ``` perl -we 'open$I,"<",$ARGV[0];local$/;$s=<$I>;print"(($s))"' "wisdom/b_jonas can't spell"
00:49:45 <HackEgo> ((b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, myopia, hibernate, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; and confuses these sets of words: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; d \ ))
00:51:04 <oerjan> `2 \? b_jonas can't spell
00:51:23 <oerjan> `? b_jonas can't spell
00:51:24 <HackEgo> b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, myopia, hibernate, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; and confuses these sets of words: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; d
00:51:43 <wob_jonas> ``` perl -we 'open$I,"<",$ARGV[0];local$/;$s=<$I>;$s=~s/(.*;) d/$1 discrete, discreet./;print substr($s,300),"||"' "wisdom/b_jonas can't spell"
00:51:44 <HackEgo> us, continuous; discrete, discreet. \ ||
00:51:49 <wob_jonas> oerjan: please wait, I'm still fixing it
00:51:57 <wob_jonas> ``` perl -we 'open$I,"<",$ARGV[0];local$/;$s=<$I>;$s=~s/(.*;) d/$1 discrete, discreet.\n/;print substr($s,200),"||"' "wisdom/b_jonas can't spell"
00:51:57 <HackEgo> sets of words: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; discrete, discreet. \ \ ||
00:52:07 <wob_jonas> ``` perl -we 'open$I,"<",$ARGV[0];local$/;$s=<$I>;$s=~s/(.*;) d/$1 discrete, discreet./;print substr($s,200),"||"' "wisdom/b_jonas can't spell"
00:52:08 <HackEgo> sets of words: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; discrete, discreet. \ ||
00:52:25 <wob_jonas> ``` perl -we 'open$I,"<",$ARGV[0];local$/;$s=<$I>;$s=~s/(.*;) d.*/$1 discrete, discreet./s;print substr($s,200),"||"' "wisdom/b_jonas can't spell"
00:52:26 <HackEgo> sets of words: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; discrete, discreet.||
00:52:34 <boily> LONG LIVE SED -I! GLORY TO THE SED! SHUN THE SLWD!
00:52:50 <wob_jonas> oerjan: look, I use tools I know how to use already, it's easier than trying to learn all sorts of new commands
00:53:53 <oerjan> `? b_jonas can't spell
00:53:54 <HackEgo> b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, myopia, hibernate, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; and confuses these sets of words: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; d
00:54:04 <oerjan> `2 \? b_jonas can't spell
00:54:05 <wob_jonas> ``` perl -we 'open$I,"<",$ARGV[0]or die;local$/;$s=<$I>;$s=~s/(.*;) d.*/$1 discrete, discreet./s;print substr($s,200),"||";open$O,">",$ARGV[0];print$O $s;' "wisdom/b_jonas can't spell"
00:54:07 <HackEgo> sets of words: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; discrete, discreet.||
00:54:20 <wob_jonas> oerjan: when you queried, I haven't edited yet. I'm previewing before saving it
00:54:33 <wob_jonas> maybe I shuold remove the "and confuses these sets of words:"
00:55:09 <oerjan> boily: sed -i is ok, i had a little talk with it, telling it to behave.
00:55:13 <wob_jonas> ``` perl -we 'open$I,"<",$ARGV[0]or die;local$/;$s=<$I>;print substr($s,100),"||";' "wisdom/b_jonas can't spell"
00:55:14 <HackEgo> nce, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; and confuses these sets of words: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; discrete, discreet.||
00:55:45 <wob_jonas> ``` perl -we 'open$I,"<",$ARGV[0]or die;local$/;$s=<$I>;print $s;' "wisdom/b_jonas can't spell"
00:55:46 <HackEgo> b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, myopia, hibernate, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; and confuses these sets of words: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; discrete, discreet.
00:55:46 <boily> splitting the lists would be akin to the Tanebventions, which would bring Harmony and Cohérence to the Magnificent Wisdom.
00:56:33 <wob_jonas> ``` perl -we 'open$I,"<",$ARGV[0]or die;local$/;$s=<$I>;$s=~s/and conf.*ds://;print $s;' "wisdom/b_jonas can't spell"
00:56:33 <HackEgo> b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, myopia, hibernate, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; discrete, discreet.
00:56:35 <boily> («cohérence» is my “amortized”. what the hell is it again in English, for fungot's sake...)
00:56:35 <fungot> boily: i'm going to fnord
00:56:40 <fungot> boily: not always. i don't
00:56:42 <wob_jonas> ``` perl -we 'open$I,"<",$ARGV[0]or die;local$/;$s=<$I>;$s=~s/and conf.*ds: //;print $s;' "wisdom/b_jonas can't spell"
00:56:43 <HackEgo> b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, myopia, hibernate, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; discrete, discreet.
00:56:47 <boily> fungot: yes you fnord.
00:56:48 <fungot> boily: that must have been here more than a week. now i get it? heh, okay. i might be quitting seeing as i didn't realize
00:57:17 <wob_jonas> ``` perl -we 'open$I,"<",$ARGV[0]or die;local$/;$s=<$I>;$s=~s/and conf.*ds: //;open$O,">",$ARGV[0];print$O $s or die;close$O or die;print$s;' "wisdom/b_jonas can't spell"
00:57:19 <HackEgo> b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, myopia, hibernate, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; discrete, discreet.
00:57:31 <boily> oerjan: no, it's a false friend. “consistency”.
00:58:13 <wob_jonas> ``` perl -we 'open$I,"<",$ARGV[0]or die;local$/;$s=<$I>;$s=~s/(jealous;)/$1 and confuses:/;if(0){open$O,">",$ARGV[0];print$O $s or die;close$O or die;}print$s;' "wisdom/b_jonas can't spell"
00:58:14 <HackEgo> b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, myopia, hibernate, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; and confuses: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; discrete, discreet.
00:58:26 <wob_jonas> ``` perl -we 'open$I,"<",$ARGV[0]or die;local$/;$s=<$I>;$s=~s/(jealous;)/$1 and confuses:/;if(1){open$O,">",$ARGV[0];print$O $s or die;close$O or die;}print$s;' "wisdom/b_jonas can't spell"
00:58:28 <HackEgo> b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, myopia, hibernate, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; and confuses: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; discrete, discreet.
00:58:32 <HackEgo> b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, myopia, hibernate, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; and confuses: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; discrete, discreet.
00:58:35 <HackEgo> Spelling of -ance/-ence words: advance, science, conference, experience, finance, insurance, licence, performance, reference, assistance, balance, defence, difference, distance, evidence, acceptance, appliance, audience, compliance, importance, influence, instance, intelligence, maintenance, preference, presence, sentence, sequence, substance, viol
00:58:43 <HackEgo> 2/2:ubstance, violence, absence, accordance, alliance, appearance, assurance, attendance, circumstance, clearance, confidence, consequence, entrance, excellence, existence, fragrance, governance, guidance, independence, offence, refinance, residence, resistance, romance.
01:01:43 <boily> avance, science, conférence, expérience, finance, assurance, license, performance, référence, assistance, balance, défence, différence, distance, évidence, acceptance, appareil, audience, conformité, importance, influence, instance, intelligence, maintenance, préférence, présence, phrase, séquence, substance, violence, absence, en accord, alliance, apparance, assurance, présence, circonstance,
01:01:45 <boily> autorisation, confiance, conséquence, entrée, excellence, existence, parfum, gouvernance, orientation, indépendence, infraction, refinancer, résidence, romance.
01:02:30 <wob_jonas> boily: this is just a short selection, because we don't want very long wisdom entries. there are much more -ance words.
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01:03:38 <wob_jonas> boily: also, how does that help? isn't the -ance and -ence in those french words pronounced the same too?
01:05:02 <boily> yup. and English blatantly ripped off French!
01:06:14 <wob_jonas> presence => présence, appearance => présence is the funny one there.
01:06:51 <boily> woops. présence et apparance.
01:07:43 <wob_jonas> I think influence doesn't have a corresponding entry in your list
01:09:10 <wob_jonas> resistance doesn't have a corresponding entry instead
01:09:25 <boily> indeed. résistance.
01:12:58 <wob_jonas> The https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:B_jonas#Silent_initial_consonants is a funny list. I almost never confuse words like {rite,write,right,wright}, {wrap,rap}, {know,now,no}, because I'm more familiar with the written form and haven't really internalized that the initial consonant is mute in English.
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01:15:47 <wob_jonas> also {knight,night}, {knot,not}, {knit,nit}. And I absolutely don't get {psychology,psionics,pseudo,psychic,pneumagic} because those words exist in Hungarian and are pronounced with an initial p.
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01:27:08 <doesthiswork> in relation to the Euler conversation yesterday "Ferris Boiller's Day off"
01:28:10 <wob_jonas> (Gnu too, technically, is a word that exists in hungarian, but given that it's a mammal you only see in a zoo, it's not a word that comes up in casual conversation, except as the software brand.)
01:32:28 <boily> pneumagic: air bending.
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02:02:40 <HackEgo> minsky//to Minsky on : /mɪnskiː/ To act as a Minsky machine on; of a program or programming language, to encode its entire state into the object as a single integer.
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02:07:27 <boily> that's like the traditional Austrian arithmetic singing, Gödeling.
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02:52:13 <doesthiswork> have you ever thought that maybe there might be too many puns in this channel?
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10:59:05 <fizzie> fungot: You're still up, right?
10:59:06 <fungot> fizzie: i dunno. an example on how to tackle that problem?
11:00:34 <izabera> fizzie: read the fucking topic ffs
11:04:02 <fizzie> I'm not going to even dignify that with a response.
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11:42:51 <HackEgo> tip//A tip is [ $ ] if you're American, [ £ ] if you're British, and if you're Japanese.
11:43:33 <DHeadshot> Shouldn't the "[ £ ]" be cyan/teal for a fiver?
11:45:09 <boily> DHellodshot. probably so.
11:48:01 <HackEgo> delaware//Delaware is a US state in which everybody speaks German.
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17:36:14 <HackEgo> 10884:2017-05-11 <boil̈y> forget quit \ 3000:2013-05-30 <cpressëy> learn /quit
17:38:54 <shachaf> the last olist was over a month ago #scow
17:40:17 * oerjan has looped back to loopy
17:40:59 <shachaf> oerjan: if you like loopy, maybe you would like The Witness hth
17:41:15 <shachaf> since one of the puzzle types in The Witness is p. much loopy
17:41:20 <shachaf> (except with a defined beginning and end)
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17:41:29 <shachaf> and also there are other puzzle types
17:41:46 <shachaf> You use Windows anyway, right? Can your computer run a game like that?
17:42:24 <oerjan> i don't know, i don't run many games.
17:50:22 <oerjan> loopy feels varied despite having only one mechanic
17:51:16 <shachaf> int-e: would oerjan enjoy the poochness y/n
17:52:07 <int-e> How should I know. It sort of has a lot of walking around between the puzzles. OTOH it has a lot of puzzles in the walking around once you know to look for them.
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17:55:15 <shachaf> GET /YesThisIsAReallyLongRequestURLbutWeAreDoingItOnPurposeWeAreScanningForResearchPurposePleaseHaveALookAtTheUserAgentTHXYesThisIsAReallyLongRequestURLbutWeAreDoingItOnPurposeWeAreScanningForResearchPurposePleaseHaveALookAtTheUserAgentTHXYesThisIsAReallyLongRequestURLbutWeAreDoingItOnPurposeWeAreScanningForResearchPurposePleaseHaveALookAtTheUserAgentTHXYesThisIsAReallyLongRequestURLbutWeAreDoingItOnPurp
17:55:21 <shachaf> oseWeAreScanningForResearchPurposePleas ...
17:55:24 <shachaf> ... eHaveALookAtTheUserAgentTHXYesThisIsAReallyLongRequestURLbutWeAreDoingItOnPurposeWeAreScanningForResearchPurposePleaseHaveALookAtTheUserAgentTHXYesThisIsAReallyLongRequestURLbutWeAreDoingItOnPurposeWeAreScanningForResearchPurposePleaseHaveALookAtTheUserAgentTHXYesThisIsAReallyLongRequestURLbutWeAreDoingItOnPurposeWeAreScanningForResearchPurposePleaseHaveALookAtTheUserAgentTHXYesThisIsAReallyLongReque
17:55:30 <shachaf> stURLbutWeAreDoingItOnPurposeWeAreScann ...
17:55:32 <shachaf> ... ingForResearchPurposePleaseHaveALookAtTheUserAgentTHXYesThisIsAReallyLongRequestURLbutWeAreDoingItOnPurposeWeAreScann
17:57:49 <shachaf> I don't know why I have two different things doing IRC line splitting. Maybe I should figure it out.
17:58:10 <shachaf> Also probably a small fraction of that path would have gotten the point across.
18:01:13 <oerjan> . o O ( whatever the point was )
18:02:24 <rdococ> . o O ( if there was a mirror dimension, only vampires could get there )
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18:22:17 <int-e> shachaf: I solved the Dead End.
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18:24:47 <rdococ> what do people think of my mirror dimension vampire thing?
18:35:32 <Zarutian> rdococ: hadnt had the time to reflect upon it.
18:39:02 <rdococ> Zarutian, well, be glad you can reflect on it, unlike vampires.
18:40:29 <rdococ> Also, what if garlic gave vampires reflections?
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18:46:07 <oerjan> vampires are very careful not to let knowledge about their whereabouts leek out like that.
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19:32:20 <rdococ> Mirrors are interdimensional portals that only grant access to vampires.
19:40:59 <rdococ> `le//rn mirror//Mirrors are interdimensional portals that only grant access to vampires.
19:41:01 <HackEgo> Learned 'mirror': Mirrors are interdimensional portals that only grant access to vampires.
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20:04:09 <\oren\> why the hell isn't it ロス・アンジェレス
20:04:33 <\oren\> instead they call los angeles ロサンゼルス
20:05:26 <DHeadshot> ... wrong channel or is this a convo that was last referred to hours ago?
20:06:35 <\oren\> wweks ago I thought I had figured out the general rules by which things are transcribed into katakana
20:08:52 <\oren\> apparently it includes ignoring word boundaries
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20:09:36 <\oren\> but only in some cases
20:11:34 <Taneb> Do you think it'd be easier to get to Dresden from Prague or from Berlin
20:12:01 <DHeadshot> Should be Berlin, but who knows...
20:12:17 <Taneb> Prague's a fair bit closer
20:12:38 <DHeadshot> Do you have to worry about customs though?
20:12:46 <Taneb> It's in the Schengen area
20:13:08 <Taneb> There's no border control
20:13:11 * DHeadshot hasn't travelled between shengen nations
20:13:57 <Taneb> I have but I was very young at the time
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20:17:10 <fizzie> We did a train trip once that went Stockholm-Copenhagen-Amsterdam-Brussels-Paris-Karlsruhe-Copenhagen-Stockholm, and nobody checked our passports at any time.
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21:08:54 <HackEgo> 1134) <shachaf> A Swede who was in #esoteric / Thought his rhymes were a little generic. / "I might use, in my prose, / ꙮs, / But my poetry's alphanumeric."
21:09:20 <HackEgo> 1/2:740) <ion> 99 bugs in the bug tracker, 99 reports of bugs. Take one down and commit a fix, 106 bugs in the bug tracker. \ 226) <elliott> lol @ closed character set standard <elliott> "What does this codepoint represent?" "Nobody knows." \ 1264) <coppro> actually a small trebuchet onto the balcony might work \ 1196) <MDude> It seems t
21:09:23 <HackEgo> 2/2:here aren't any expert systems for answering questions on the nature of expert systems.
21:10:35 <HackEgo> vatican//vatican is the super-rich part of italy. Sadly, it has a huge crime rate. You will be robbed.
21:11:26 <HackEgo> 1/1:1337//1337 15 50 905 \ west midlands//Nobody knows anything about the West Midlands, and it has claimed the lives of at least two former regulars in this channel who tried to investigate so far. \ nit//Nits are there to be picked. \ banach-tarski//"Banach-Tarski" is an anagram of "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski".
21:13:29 <shachaf> my finger mislanded on that key
21:13:41 <HackEgo> 2124:2013-02-13 <Tanëb> echo "Nobody knows anything about the West Midlands, and it has claimed the lives of at least two former regulars in this channel who tried to investigate so far." > wisdom/west\\ midlands \ 2122:2013-02-13 <Tanëb> echo "Nobody knows anything about the West Midlands, and it has claimed the lives of at least two former re
21:14:04 <HackEgo> 2/2: two former regulars in this channel who tried to investigate so for" > wisdom/west\\ midlands
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23:21:44 <HackEgo> keenlist//keenlist is notification for when Tom Hall finally acquires the necessary intellectual property rights to create the videogame series Commander Keen: The Universe is Toast
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23:27:16 <\oren\> https://www.dinside.no/okonomi/reklameskilt-ser-hvem-du-er/67552025
23:29:21 <\oren\> a pizzeria in norway detects what kind of person is looking at the billboard and displays different ads
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23:29:51 <\oren\> https://www.dinside.no/okonomi/reklameskilt-ser-hvem-du-er/67552025
23:30:21 <boily> hellørjan! you hairily fall!
23:30:41 <boily> (aurgh. how should it be translated?)
23:31:42 <oerjan> helloily. advertising signs see who you are hth
23:32:02 <oerjan> or possibly sign, it's the same in plural
23:32:22 <boily> credit to \oren\ for the find.
23:32:38 <boily> (Google Translate also fails. “You fall to hair”)
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23:34:45 <boily> ah! fr:«tomber à pic» → en:“to show at the right time”
23:35:25 <boily> http://www.expressio.fr/expressions/tomber-pile-au-poil-pile-poil.php ← «tomber au poil», lit. “to fall at the hair”
23:35:44 <oerjan> boily: what is the meaning of that phrase hth
23:35:54 <boily> “to show at the right time” hth
23:36:43 <\oren\> boily: what is your opinion on ロサンゼルス
23:36:59 <oerjan> unless you had actually been speaking about me, in which case "speak of the devil" would fit.
23:37:34 <oerjan> (no:når man snakker om sola)
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23:38:31 <\oren\> I think rosanzerusu is a very confusing transliteration for los angeles
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