< 1494633690 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are trying to figure the physics if you do not cast a shadow or if your reflection is not visible. Now I should try to figure how to work such physics into GURPS? (Currently there is no character or object with those properties but if there is in the game I am in in future then it can be important to figure out?) < 1494634123 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494634555 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494635067 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I made a program "ff-xwin" to display a farbfeld picture on the X server. You can use either TrueColor visuals or standard-colormaps. < 1494635086 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1494635262 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1494635325 0 :wuamby!~wuamby@tx-76-1-91-134.dyn.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494635382 0 :wuamby!~wuamby@tx-76-1-91-134.dyn.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1494635531 0 :electrolex!~electrole@pool-108-26-183-28.bstnma.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1494636649 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494637442 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1494637915 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1494638610 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzello38 < 1494638633 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know what farbfeld < 1494638645 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is < 1494638757 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494638943 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Farbfeld is: The ASCII letters "farbfeld", the 32-bit width, the 32-bit height, and then the pixels starting top-left and going to right, each pixel being 16-bit red, 16-bit green, 16-bit blue, 16-bit alpha. All numbers are unsigned big-endian. < 1494638996 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1494639291 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this some sort of uncompressed pixmap format? < 1494639457 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1494639742 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1494639744 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not even sure I know of anyone with that good visual aquity. Perhaps this is usefull for beyond photorealistic displays and printing. < 1494639855 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1494640437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg ginorst < 1494640444 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6636:2016-02-07 learn Ginorst is eht aillpr fo dgoo iikw aaeegmmnnt. < 1494640886 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you sure that aaaciiilnopttz is valid twh < 1494641025 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mu < 1494641162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd ginorst//s,ai/Ai,;s,ii,Ii;s,aa,Aa, < 1494641163 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/sed: -e expression #1, char 14: unknown option to `s' < 1494641177 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd ginorst//s,ai,Ai,;s,ii,Ii;s,aa,Aa, < 1494641178 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/sed: -e expression #1, char 20: unknown option to `s' < 1494641193 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd ginorst//s,ai,Ai,;s,ii,Ii,;s,aa,Aa, < 1494641195 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ginorst//Ginorst is eht Aillpr fo dgoo Iikw Aaeegmmnnt. < 1494641217 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd ginorst//s,dg,Dg, < 1494641219 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ginorst//Ginorst is eht Aillpr fo Dgoo Iikw Aaeegmmnnt. < 1494641241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: beertt? < 1494641243 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Yes it is, and can be use for pipe between programs. (I think is not so useful to store in a file, though.) This precision can still help with using filters to alter the picture even if your vision or display is not as good as that. < 1494641365 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I see. But I take it it is only inteded for one image per processing so to speak, no? (Not a stream of images or video frames) < 1494641414 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, just one. < 1494641453 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ahtt aekms no eenss dhnt < 1494641471 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There I made a list of all of the program I have written so far to deal with it: http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/farbfeld.ui/wiki?name=Documentation You can also find the source-codes too, and to compile it too. < 1494641520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ceefprt! < 1494641556 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ginorst is emor fo a aaceillprrt < 1494641586 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Do you like this? < 1494641615 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it is simple enough format and rather handy to work with. < 1494641735 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I take it that the idea is to pipe a starting image through many utilities. My question is, do these utilities keep the entire image in memory or what? < 1494641842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION concedes < 1494641898 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Some do, some don't need to. < 1494641911 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are right about the use though. < 1494641946 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example one that only alters colours does not need to store the entire picture in memory since it only needs to deal with one pixel at a time. < 1494641972 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I am a bit mistified by the to-hsv utility. < 1494642026 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :as hsv is completely diffrent colourspace from usual rgb(a) < 1494642034 0 :g0d355__!~lmao@104.131.75.159 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1494642090 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1494642114 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is different. It might be used as a intermediate step though, such as if you want to do the arithmetic on the HSV colour space instead of RGB. < 1494642198 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the colour channels in an farbfeld image that is piped from to-hsv are not rgb but hsv (and in that order)? < 1494642321 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1494642353 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sees no mention of CYMK nor Chroma(2 channels)&Luminance colourspace converters. < 1494642403 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is true there is no such thing yet. < 1494642419 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But in some cases you can use ff-matrix) < 1494642530 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt this format basically missing a bit of metadata then? (Just a indication of colourspace being used) < 1494642542 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as CYMK takes four colour channels how would such colourspace be represented in farbfeld? < 1494642571 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would not have alpha in that case. < 1494642600 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no metadata it is not needed; farbfeld is only RGB, but you can nevertheless put different data in there if you are doing calculations that use HSV and so on. < 1494642675 0 :nchambers!~nchambers@learnprogramming/staff/nchambers QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - http://znc.in < 1494642680 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am also curious what method ff-turn uses (if it uses the three sheers method then there wont be any data loss) < 1494642698 0 :nchambers!~nchambers@learnprogramming/staff/nchambers JOIN :#esoteric < 1494642821 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can rotate only 90 degrees. (I also don't know what is "three sheers method") < 1494642978 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheering, or slanting, is rather simple operation where each horizational or vertical scanline is shifted u times to left or right or up or down. Where u is how many scanlines you are along. < 1494643027 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1494643055 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :using three of these in certain way (there is a nifty article about it whose link I can dig out if you want) you can rotate between 0-90° < 1494643415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1494645505 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's you can learn to play the game that I made up today, and then you can write the complaint about it. < 1494646112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494648857 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1494649648 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494649853 0 :martyrboy!sid167861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fwsikhiojmstlccl JOIN :#esoteric < 1494650031 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1494650743 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does FireFly like what? < 1494650826 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The new ZZT game that I had made up yesterday. (And also the other stuff.) < 1494651001 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1494651542 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1494652210 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1494652820 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494653677 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1494653699 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494655986 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1494655991 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/3:icelandic unnerver//An Icelandic unnerver is a steampunkish looking hand cannon that spews freezingly hot lava out its recreational end. Uses epidermal DNA analyses, thaumic history excerpts and recognition of both multiphasic intristic tesla fields and personal sensorium-motor flair for authenticating authorized users. \ ☾_//☾_ i < 1494655994 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1494655995 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/3:s moon_'s lawful twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. He sometimes eats papers. \ ice//I.C.E. stands for Imaginary Christian Era. It covers the forgotten period of time that is not on the real axis. \ moth//Moths are the main ingredient of mothballs. \ coffee//Coffee is a strange brew. Enticing wisps of vap < 1494656034 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1494656034 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/3:our catch the eye, the soul ensnared into dark vortices of flavour. Some minds mix in milk and sugar to counteract coffee's black magic. < 1494656035 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1494656102 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget icelandic unnerver < 1494656104 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1494656114 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget ice < 1494656116 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1494656126 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget everything < 1494656301 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1494656667 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1494656672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:natural transformation//A natural transformation is a transformation of something containing no chemicals. \ bardsworthlist//bardsworthlist is update notification for the Bardsworth webcomic. http://www.bardsworth.com/ \ imaginary unit//The imaginary unit is what you get when you take the square root of love \ category theory//In the < 1494656675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1494656676 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:theory of categories, category theory is a theory in the category of theories. \ sport//sport divides its input into irc-sized pieces and displays the nth (default first). The pipe version of `1. See also spore. < 1494656820 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1494656825 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:defenestration//Defenestration is the traditional Czech system for voting out government officials. \ cocoon//Cocoon was built by the fal'Cie, and floats above Gran Pulse. \ twint-e//twint-e is int-e's stupid twin. He sometimes hijacks int-e's keyboard and spouts nonsense. \ persistence//Taneb invented persistence long ago, and it's b < 1494656827 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1494656828 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:een around ever since. \ np-complete//NP-complete is the subset of NP to which all problems in P can be reduced, thus completely solving them. < 1494657345 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1494659286 0 :pledis!?@? NICK :cyra < 1494659398 0 :cyra!?@? NICK :cyral < 1494659410 0 :cyral!?@? NICK :pledis < 1494659665 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494659945 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1494660494 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1494661461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494662044 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1494662987 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1494663218 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1494663572 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1494664832 0 :izabera!?@? NICK :dumb < 1494664993 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with rikka's opinion of tomatos < 1494665015 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that significant? < 1494665075 0 :dumb!?@? NICK :izabera < 1494665628 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494665643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1494665707 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: doesn't really signify much < 1494665772 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, this is yet another anime with the same plot < 1494665819 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. Guy meets strange, annoying girl. 2. girl creates new school club and forces guy to join it. < 1494665891 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make a list. < 1494666465 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swear to god, it's like they had a meeting and were like "so what characters should we have" < 1494666469 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"well, we need a main character with practically no character traits whatsoever besides being male" < 1494666486 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and an annoying, crazy girl who he is forced to cater to" < 1494666490 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then all that varies is what sort of crazy shit the girl is up to < 1494666542 0 :sdhand!~sam@unaffiliated/kyubiko PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: which anime is this in particular? < 1494666546 0 :sdhand!~sam@unaffiliated/kyubiko PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like haruhi < 1494666560 0 :sdhand!~sam@unaffiliated/kyubiko PRIVMSG #esoteric :But as you said there's a lot with that plot < 1494666647 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case it's chuunibyou demo koi ga shitai, my first time watching this < 1494666798 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time was Hyouka, that one was good. I just wish they would come up with a different plot < 1494666894 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494667137 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1494670543 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494670842 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1494670848 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1494672278 0 :izabera!?@? NICK :LOWERCASE < 1494672472 0 :LOWERCASE!?@? NICK :izabera < 1494673693 0 :primo!~primo@122.155.138.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1494675557 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1494675569 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is bad < 1494675683 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( www.iuqerfsodp9ifjaposdfjhgosurijfaewrwergwea.com seems like a good candidate. ) < 1494675825 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact... < 1494675911 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I still don't want to set a precedent of changing the password of the month in the middle of the month. < 1494677643 0 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some haskell class that works like Num in regards to fromIntegral but with strings? < 1494678584 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc104862-sgyl39-2-0-cust65.18-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494678584 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc104862-sgyl39-2-0-cust65.18-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1494678584 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1494678936 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle IsString < 1494678936 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.String class IsString a < 1494678936 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC.Exts class IsString a < 1494678936 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CorePrelude class IsString a < 1494678943 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: there's #haskell you know < 1494679169 0 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, mostly i am too lazy to go there for a single question < 1494679240 0 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does not seem to cast automatically, too sad < 1494679418 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1494679427 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's #haskell you know < 1494679674 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, patching is hard. But you either patch or run a closed system. If running a closed system isn't an option, you patch. < 1494679903 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong channel, context was https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/blog/2017-05/2017-05-12.html < 1494680078 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the simple fact is that running a vulnerable system is overall a quite practical third option < 1494680403 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. In that case, you have backups or no valuable data on your machine. Which you should have anywya. < 1494680427 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically there's only one term in that article that irks me: "victim-blaming". < 1494680456 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you're missing the point, often you do have no backups or whatever < 1494680472 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable199.112-160-184.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1494680480 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I am. < 1494681451 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494681732 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1494682721 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1494682886 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1494682931 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1494683011 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1494683218 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bot < 1494683218 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1494683633 0 :electrolex!~electrole@pool-108-26-179-127.bstnma.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494683809 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-96-228.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1494683827 0 :Slereah__!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-18-102.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1494684026 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1494685089 0 :primo!~primo@122.155.138.138 QUIT :Quit: Verlassend < 1494685456 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1494686421 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? us < 1494686422 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :us? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1494686453 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? them < 1494686454 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :them? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1494688689 0 :Slereah__!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-96-228.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1494688774 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-96-228.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1494688825 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable199.112-160-184.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle! the us and them were forgotten?!??!!?! < 1494688830 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rrcomtowzkhcsuul QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1494688881 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zdyd9071h8vt9g.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1494689015 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly unfortunate < 1494689205 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable199.112-160-184.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? certainly < 1494689206 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't know what certainly is for sure, but it certainly isn't a functor. < 1494689209 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494689723 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1494689878 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1494690855 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable199.112-160-184.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1494690857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eöl//Eöl was called the Dark Elf; he was a great smith who dwelt in Nan Elmoth, and took Aredhel Turgon’s sister to wife; friend of the Dwarves; maker of the sword Anglachel (Gurthang); father of Maeglin; put to death in Gondolin. < 1494691725 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable199.112-160-184.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: REBOOTING CHICKEN < 1494691944 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable199.112-160-184.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1494693200 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable199.112-160-184.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1494693202 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :enrichment centre//The Enrichment Center regrets to inform you that this next test is impossible. < 1494694033 0 :sdhand!~sam@unaffiliated/kyubiko PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1494694034 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :algorithm//Algorithms (derived from the medieval "algorisms") are popular sayings by former president Al Gore, except for God's Algorithm which was invented by a Google computer cluster. < 1494694415 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1494694792 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1494694922 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys < 1494694929 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1494694941 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone give me a quick example of a regex with backreferences which takes exponential time to match? < 1494695438 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1494695635 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qzlvnolhfxdnivav JOIN :#esoteric < 1494698860 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ufgejecnwyypcwdr QUIT :Changing host < 1494698860 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1494698861 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Changing host < 1494698861 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ufgejecnwyypcwdr JOIN :#esoteric < 1494700013 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494700229 0 :electrolex!~electrole@pool-108-26-179-127.bstnma.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1494700244 0 :Taneb!?@? NICK :Eurotaneb < 1494700380 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494701636 0 :Remavas!~remavas@md-188-69-209-29.omni.lt JOIN :#esoteric < 1494703353 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: .*\(.*\).*\1.* < 1494703367 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: .*(.*).*$1.* or however you want to write it < 1494703404 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually no < 1494703405 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1494703409 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1494703416 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :.*(.+).*$1.* < 1494703534 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah this just matches a string with a repeated character somewhere < 1494703616 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well try matching it like a regex engine would < 1494703644 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is not good at coming up with examples < 1494703714 0 :Remavas!~remavas@md-188-69-209-29.omni.lt PRIVMSG #esoteric :`regex < 1494703715 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: regex: not found < 1494703722 0 :Remavas!~remavas@md-188-69-209-29.omni.lt PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? regex < 1494703723 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :regex? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1494703727 0 :Remavas!~remavas@md-188-69-209-29.omni.lt PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1494703782 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intuitively I'd expect any fixed perl regular expression to take polynomial time in the input string for matching. But Perl is crazy and the regex engine may be doing extra work. Doesn't Google find anything? < 1494704457 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-131-078.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1494704463 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1494704464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zarutian//You can trust Zarutian. He fixes, as an electronics technician, banal mistakes of electronics engineers. Rather cy(ph|b)erpunkish in outlook regarding the 'Net. Knows more about ocaps than you can imagine. Possesses an Icelandic unnerver that ejects freezingly hot lava out of its business end. Bears an 'Authentic fakes provider' seal from < 1494704495 0 :spiette_!~spiette@216-246-240-74.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494704506 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-131-078.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1494704715 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: IceChat - It's what Cool People use < 1494704869 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ya'rang? < 1494704980 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-131-078.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1494705145 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-131-078.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1494705232 0 :spiette_!~spiette@216-246-240-74.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1494706127 0 :spiette_!~spiette@216-246-240-74.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494706527 0 :spiette_!~spiette@216-246-240-74.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1494707107 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable199.112-160-184.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zaruttellon. what's an ocap? < 1494707950 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The re2 guy's article had some example where Perl was really slow. < 1494707958 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: https://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/regexp1.html < 1494707980 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good afternizzie < 1494707996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know string matching with '?' characters in the pattern is hard? < 1494708162 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1494708180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's as hard as boolean convolution apparently. < 1494708200 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one knows how to do it in linear time. < 1494708226 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of string matching are we talking about? < 1494708228 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :? matches ? < 1494708237 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy < 1494708246 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'?' matches any character < 1494708341 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know that. Funny. It doesn't *sound* all that hard. < 1494708359 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was implementing string matching with * and ? < 1494708367 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expected * to be harder than ? but it's easier. < 1494708404 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? ruins your ability to do KMP tdnh < 1494708532 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :People keep saying Hungarian is related to Finnish, but it always sounds so foreign. < 1494708544 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The Hungarian Eurovision song is in their own language.) < 1494708551 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you use Finnish notation in programming? < 1494708575 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's, what, swearwords in the comments? < 1494708591 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you solve the Finnish cube? < 1494708620 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1494708632 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does find work? I can put * and shell doesn't expand it? < 1494708747 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually the shell does expand it (if there's anything matching), which is why it's best quoted. < 1494708804 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any use for the quaternion mode of ff-composite? < 1494708836 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://sprunge.us/gDXi < 1494709196 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you mean regular expressions? < 1494709212 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1494709225 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I missed you explaining < 1494710003 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think the #define numbers in http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/tavern.ui/raw/tavernc.c?name=5f2a181fb1d551f4460c67677a851be08619aaca are high enough limits? I can increase in case is not good enough? < 1494710749 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1494710842 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if you are that curious see http://habitatchronicles.com/2017/05/what-are-capabilities/ < 1494711276 0 :Eurotaneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Finnish and Hungarian are related, sure, just like Hindi and English are < 1494711303 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eurotaneb? < 1494711310 0 :Eurotaneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb watching Eurovision < 1494711331 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't y'all scrap Europe? < 1494711345 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if Australia can participate you might be allowed as well. < 1494711347 0 :Eurotaneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not until March 2019 or something < 1494711391 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, it's Tanevvision < 1494711398 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebvision < 1494711409 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Tanebvention < 1494711431 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tunnel vision < 1494711519 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eurovision is where elevator earworms get born < 1494711524 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hatch < 1494711686 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`starwars < 1494711687 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chancellor Valorum < 1494711688 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1494711688 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 ea Eggs; separated \ 6 Eggs \ 1/3 c Sugar \ 3 tb Light meal \ 1/2 ts Salt \ 1 ts Salt \ 1/8 ts Pepper \ 1/8 ts Cayenne pepper, marshmallow \ 8 oz Flour \ 1 c Light corn syrup \ Freshly ground white \ \ Preheat oven to 350\F8. Strain may be seed and cut into small pieces. Sprinkle \ may be added to make or spoonfuls, enough with seas < 1494711689 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`scheme < 1494711691 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nature Shields Its Own < 1494711693 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1494711694 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :833) "damn, my port of ghc to php isn't properly taking javascript booleans into account" < 1494711694 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1494711696 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e//e is a freenode admin. e is not known to be an Agora player. < 1494711697 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: The re2 guy's article had some example where Perl was really slow. < 1494711711 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Light corn syrup"? < 1494711718 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no yeah i know but the guy whose irc bot im trying to DOS got wise to that and probably changed his engine < 1494711725 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "3 tb Light meal"? < 1494711734 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now it handles s/(x+x+)+y/z/ without a problem < 1494711752 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it does support backrefs! so i need to leverage them to break out of the finite automaton engine < 1494711811 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What if you do e.g. p{999}{999}{999}? < 1494711847 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what regex syntax is that < 1494711851 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it supports backrefs. < 1494711863 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not using finite automata. < 1494711879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least not always. < 1494711885 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PH: I would actually like a regex engine that has a built-in loop counter so it can time out matches, so it can be used on any regex from untrusted input but just give up if it's too slow < 1494712094 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I look at lastest RoboRosewater card. Whenever a player cast a spell, if that spell has same name as a permanent, it is countered, and then put it into battlefield anyways. I suppose it could be used with Spy Kit. You might also change the target of a Aura in some cases too. < 1494712117 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? roborosewater < 1494712118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RoboRosewater is generating random Magic: the Gathering cards, see https://mobile.twitter.com/roborosewater < 1494712136 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : So it's not using finite automata. < 1494712139 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes precisely < 1494712158 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So just do the usual things? < 1494712170 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, while it seemingly avoids pathological backtracking on actually-regular regular expressions, i can force it to backtrack with backrefs < 1494712176 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but offhand i'm not quite sure how to do that < 1494712203 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like (a.*)a.*a.*a.*\1 maybe? < 1494712211 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, all sorts of options. I don't know the context. < 1494712222 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PH: are you sure it's not just using tre, which has two modes, one it uses with backrefs and one it uses without? < 1494712235 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can loop tre even without backrefs too < 1494712253 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494712287 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with something like (.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.))(.|(.)) or something < 1494712303 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure of the exact right combo really < 1494712306 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just try stuff like that < 1494712535 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1494712824 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, I'm stupid < 1494712827 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1494712828 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will still be fast enough for that < 1494712904 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it only takes time quadratic in the regex length if you don't use backrefs < 1494712911 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to use backrefs if you want to blow it up < 1494712972 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you can give like ten thousand character long regexen < 1494713493 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone nearby started some fireworks right when the UK song happened, I wonder if that was coincidental. < 1494713562 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lamets that there is nothing on the telly currently worth watching. < 1494713638 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? eurovision < 1494713640 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eurovision is the European way of looking at the world. For some reason it involves a lot of cheesy singing. < 1494713725 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's that time of the year again < 1494713746 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so, ya glad you asked me about that ocaps thing? < 1494713799 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can not it be like the ol' lympics, every four or twelf years? < 1494713824 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably some people would have written their own program for writing module musics if they have not found a suitable existing programs; at least it is what I did. Now hopefully there are enough different one but if it is not, you can nevertheless to write the new one, I think. Is it? < 1494713871 0 :Remavas-2!~remavas@md-188-69-211-61.omni.lt JOIN :#esoteric < 1494713872 0 :Remavas-2!~remavas@md-188-69-211-61.omni.lt QUIT :Excess Flood < 1494713886 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494713899 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: olympics costs a lot to run. Eurovision doesn't. < 1494713899 0 :Remavas!~remavas@md-188-69-209-29.omni.lt QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1494713932 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, olympics every four year gives enough time to hold other sports periodical championships in between < 1494713948 0 :electrolex!~electrole@pool-108-26-179-127.bstnma.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494713955 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you know, the EUFA cup which is always in the same year as the olympics ... no wait, that doesn't make sense < 1494714013 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :parlimetary elections then. those are every four years, and offset from the olympics by two years. < 1494714155 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Eurovision costs quite a lot to run too, though not in the scale of the Olympics. < 1494714191 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it should be one more olympic competition. < 1494714210 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two-digit million of £s, suggests the first Google hit. < 1494714247 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no it shouldn't < 1494714431 0 :spiette_!~spiette@216-246-240-74.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494714525 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : PH: are you sure it's not just using tre, which has two modes, one it uses with backrefs and one it uses without? < 1494714527 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly < 1494714531 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's in python < 1494714554 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case i think i eventually found an effective dos but i think the guy might've added a timeout < 1494714591 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a third line of defence, after the more efficient engine and the message saying 'Phantom_Hoover: Your regex is shit and you should fuck off' < 1494714595 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone started writing knights and knaves puzzle like "On the Island of President, there live only three types of people. George Washingtons who always tell the truth, George W. Bushes who always tell lies, and Donald Trumps who can say any sentence regardless its meaning." < 1494714623 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Not that I have heard. < 1494714749 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1494714781 0 :Eurotaneb!?@? NICK :Taneb < 1494714869 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1494715015 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of modules musics programs are using graphical user interface but I did not find the one with batch interface so that is why I wrote a new one. < 1494715489 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: build a dfa < 1494715497 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1494715500 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :for ? and * < 1494715514 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but that's not going to be linear in the size of the pattern. < 1494715558 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I find a assembler to target Dis virtual machine? < 1494715572 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: which Dis? the esolang? < 1494715593 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean the one with Inferno < 1494715614 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except, the assembler running on Linux, rather) < 1494716133 0 :spiette_!~spiette@216-246-240-74.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1494716790 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494716991 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zdyd9071h8vt9g.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1494717104 0 :guest__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1494717122 0 :guest__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PART #esoteric : < 1494717873 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Your country's doing pretty okay in this thing. < 1494717964 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1494718120 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's Taneb's country? < 1494718123 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`scheme < 1494718139 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Pieces Are Coming Together < 1494718160 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, I was talking about the United Kingdom. < 1494718168 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1494718539 0 :tromp!~tromp@148.75.196.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1494718767 0 :electrolex!~electrole@pool-108-26-179-127.bstnma.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1494718779 0 :tromp!~tromp@148.75.196.67 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1494718826 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1494718863 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1494719096 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, wait we actually did a decent eurovision for once? < 1494719248 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, it didn't do *great*, ended up somewhere around #15 of 26. < 1494719266 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's not bad. Finland didn't qualify for the final again. < 1494719271 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :who won < 1494719329 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portugal, I think. < 1494719346 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody won yet < 1494719356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1494719376 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you watching a delayed broadcast, or is that just some sort of a philosophical comment? < 1494719388 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's definitely over already. < 1494719399 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1494719444 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only winning move is not to play < 1494719945 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client