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00:57:58 <oerjan> fizzie: the wiki bridge is down again hth
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05:43:10 <\oren\> latvia apparently can into space despite lack of potato
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05:57:14 <oerjan> \oren\: but can she grammar?
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06:21:01 <Aearnus> Hey guys, long time no see
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07:31:58 <fizzie> @tell oerjan I may have fixed it. Restarting HackEgo meant it was no longer writing to the same socket HackEgo was reading from.
07:32:51 <Vorpal> fizzie: interesting issue
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07:58:49 <\oren\> I'm starting to become inured to the sound of english with wrong accent
07:58:56 <\oren\> https://youtu.be/c-wq_XCT2qI
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09:20:42 <int-e> "Computers just work by pushing electrons around." -- Hello, fellow electron pusher pushers.
09:22:15 <Taneb> int-e, doesn't, like, most of the universe work like that
09:22:21 <Taneb> Plus some other things like photons and neutrons
09:26:00 <int-e> Taneb: tbf, they're more interested in photons anyway
09:26:39 <int-e> (the quote is from https://www.fox-it.com/nl/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/Tempest_attacks_against_AES.pdf )
09:26:58 <int-e> well, it's a quote from somewhere else but that's where I saw it
09:28:37 <shachaf> Hmm, so if I cite it, I should cite #esoteric.
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10:58:05 <Cale> Computers are when you hook up a bunch of amplifiers in a pattern to make your glowing rectangles glow the right way.
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11:11:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[MATL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52235&oldid=50780 * Luis Mendo * (+0) /* Fibonacci sequence */
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12:24:11 <HackEgo> Computer is a language where numbers are strings of the characters '1' and '0'.
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12:48:47 <mroman> http://cheap.int-e.eu/~burlesque/burlesque.cgi?q=%7B1+2+3+4+5+6%7DJJiTjbxcyz%5B%7Bp%5E%5C%5C%7Dm%5BjiTz%5B%7Bp%5E%2B%2Bj%2B%2B.%3E%7Df%5B%5B%7E%3C- <- gues what this does.
13:04:53 <hppavilion[0]> I get this paranoid feeling Arrow's Impossibility Theorem corresponds directly with Gödel's Incompleteness Theorems...
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13:23:38 <lambdabot> oerjan said 13h 35m 53s ago: hily, byeli
13:31:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[EWagon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52236&oldid=52053 * Timtomtoaster * (+0)
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13:50:25 <mroman> the voting arrow arrow?
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19:27:38 <\oren\> they are now loading oxygen into the flacon 9
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20:31:49 <zzo38> To store a list of Huffman code lengths, I thought of a possible way to do so. Assume the maximum code length is 62 bits. Use some order of symbols to be coded. If the symbol is not used, code a "0" bit and then how many unused symbols and then the number in the LRU queue indexing the current code length for the next used symbol (if any). Otherwise code a "1" bit and the LRU index for the code length for this symbol.
20:33:45 <zzo38> However, a few more things are done: The LRU queue is initially empty. If indexing something already in the LRU queue, then move it to the front after use. If not, then it encodes a "virual" index of the next code length, assuming that all code lengths larger than the current max code length are in order after the LRU queue; all of them are then moved to the front in reverse order.
20:35:21 <zzo38> Furthermore, the number 2^62 is stored to indicate the minimum code length. After any code length is used, subtract 2^(62-x) from that value where x is the code length. For any code length x if it is now less than 2^(62-x) then remove all numbers less than or equal to x from the LRU queue, since they can no longer be in use
20:36:12 <zzo38> Is this understandable to you now?
20:52:27 <int-e> I followed you as far as proposing to use an LRU queue to manage a map from symbols to Huffman code lengths, maintaining Kraft's inequality (using 2^62 as a scale factor to do the computation in integers). I think that's about 25 to 30% of what you wrote, which is above average.
20:52:53 <int-e> fungot: talk to me?
20:52:53 <fungot> int-e: bring it to bear three degrees and... eight. simple math dictates the futility of your effort, i have, " interrogate paladin," as " par for any loss or injury that may arise on how this new thing i've been trying. bozzok can't be far behind and the year ahead is by far the lowest price i have ever laid at least.
20:53:08 <int-e> ugh, still on oots style
20:53:35 <shachaf> If you followed olist you'd probably be able to make heads and tails of it.
20:55:56 <int-e> I read it up to http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0726.html
20:56:17 <int-e> That was, I guess, 5 years ago, and I can't be bothered anymore.
20:56:50 <shachaf> oh man, it gets good at 0727
20:56:57 <shachaf> you just have to stick with it
21:00:44 <zzo38> The other thing to see is how to encode the numbers. There is a maximum (which can vary), and the assumption that lower numbers are generally more probable (but that even higher numbers are not so unlikely).
21:07:24 <zzo38> It is also possible that after a certain point, it is known that all of the remaining symbols are used (being implied by the code lengths, by the assumptions that all codes are meaningful), so is unnecessary to code further "1" bits to indicate that there aren't any more intervening unused symbols.
21:13:23 <zzo38> Reordering the symbols in the list based on what kind of data is expected to be encodeded might also help.
21:15:11 <zzo38> (Also once all codes are in use, the rest of the table need not be stored at all.)
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22:41:35 <rdococ> hppavilion[0], hi. If I were looking at the Mercator projection, on the prime meridian, but with a latitude of L, what correction factor formula should I apply to the scaling of the projection (relative to my viewing point of course) to make size comparisons accurate?
22:45:50 <rdococ> okay, well, given a y position, and the width and height of the projection, how would I determine the latitude angle?
22:50:39 <hppavilion[0]> rdococ: Again, no clue. I haven't really studied maps.
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23:56:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Alercah * New user account
23:57:58 <Warrigal_> I'm gonna blab and blah here a bit.
23:58:27 <Warrigal_> I've noticed that a lot of languages seem to compile down to a relatively simple "core language" as a compilation step.
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23:58:59 <Warrigal_> C is a little bit like that in practice. C-before-preprocessing compiles down to C-after-preprocessing.
23:59:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52237&oldid=52232 * Alercah * (+143)
23:59:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[D♭]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52238 * Alercah * (+156) Created page with "'''D♭''' (pronounced "dee flat") is a programming language that works as follows: 1. Evaluate the input as a C♯ program. It is otherwise unremarkable."
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23:59:35 <Warrigal_> Then there's Haskell as compiled by GHC, whose core language is called Core.
23:59:42 <alercah> there, my first esolang in a while