< 1498694484 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1498695587 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1498695647 0 :__kerbal___!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello oerjan < 1498695748 0 :__kerbal___!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disregard the __kerbal__ account with only 4 underscores; that's me running on a different computer < 1498695784 0 :__kerbal___!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That, if my hunch is correct, I cannot close right now as I am not nearby < 1498695953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :__kerbal__: do you have any comment on this usurpation? < 1498695979 0 :__kerbal___!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I left my baby outside < 1498696022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :__kerbal___: /msg nickserv ghost __kerbal__ < 1498696039 0 :__kerbal___!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;msg nickserv ghost < 1498696054 0 :__kerbal___!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that do, exactly? < 1498696063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kick __kerbal__ out < 1498696096 0 :__kerbal___!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, thanks < 1498696129 0 :__kerbal__!b82306f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.35.6.246 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1498696134 0 :__kerbal___!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1498696141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1498696147 0 :__kerbal___!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1498696158 0 :__kerbal___!?@? NICK :__kerbal__ < 1498696165 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :much better < 1498696795 0 :nullcone[m]!?@? NICK :nullcone[m]2 < 1498696815 0 :nullcone!uid11626@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-clqccdhabcgepcbe QUIT : < 1498696822 0 :nullcone[m]2!?@? NICK :nullcone < 1498696893 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@172.56.38.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1498696915 0 :nullcone!?@? NICK :nullcone_ < 1498697514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :__kerbal__: you might try `url wisdom instead. < 1498697528 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url wisdom < 1498697529 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hackego.esolangs.org/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom < 1498697559 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, thanks. You must be reading the logs < 1498697568 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DID YOU GUESS < 1498697590 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1498697591 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your omnipheasant back principal swatty arrant "Darth Ept" oerjan the indecisive is a hazy expert in minor compaction. Also a Glaneep who disses Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance. His arc-nemesis is Kitty Crocker. He twice punned without noticing it. < 1498697614 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not. < 1498697660 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? alercah < 1498697661 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1498697665 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Eyes < 1498697666 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :still? I'm unloved < 1498697666 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eyes and ears and mouth and nose... < 1498697671 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? doesthiswork < 1498697673 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1498697676 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1498697685 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we know < 1498697837 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom /̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚�͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔҉̕͜͠͠҉̡̧̛͞ @ 11050:a4fc5115efcf < 1498697838 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not wise. < 1498697919 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn In CCCP, esolangs create YOU! < 1498697921 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'in': In CCCP, esolangs create YOU! < 1498697929 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what i intended < 1498697952 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now prepositions have fallen to the communists < 1498698070 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn alercah is a person < 1498698072 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'alercah': alercah is a person < 1498698156 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please stop abusing the bot. < 1498698167 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1498698169 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hackego.esolangs.org/fshg/ < 1498698188 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 11027 < 1498698189 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1498698202 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of it bot abuse. < 1498698211 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote shachaf.*wisdom < 1498698212 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1298) ais523: Hmm, I think the wisdom database is like the quotes file, except it's for when people think they're being funny, rather than when other people think they're funny. < 1498698419 0 :__kerbal___!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498698432 0 :__kerbal___!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I will use more discretion in the future < 1498698449 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1498698459 0 :__kerbal___!?@? NICK :__kerbal__ < 1498698551 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :__kerbal__: we have a policy that permanent changes to HackEgo must be done in public. < 1498698572 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I apologize. I thought that I was sparing you all from bot spam < 1498698586 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to make you retroactively adhere to that policy, I was forced to make those changes nonpermanent. < 1498698594 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense < 1498698604 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a temporally strange kind of way < 1498698611 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good idea for _reading_ HackEgo stuff, but we like to keep a bit track of what's changing. < 1498698687 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and making so many changes to HackEgo that you'd be worried about spamming isn't a good idea either < 1498698697 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's fair < 1498698709 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I apologize < 1498698761 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498698808 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair, spamming with HackEgo is a popular activity. < 1498698815 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's even a command for it. < 1498698836 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also true. < 1498698965 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1498699102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : for school? <-- for work, as i recall < 1498699136 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do want to do one thing < 1498699167 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom alercah has wanted a wisdom entry, evidently < 1498699169 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not wise. < 1498699182 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? alercah has wanted a wisdom entry, evidently < 1498699184 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah has wanted a wisdom entry, evidently? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1498699193 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn alercah has wanted a wisdom entry, evidently < 1498699195 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'alercah': alercah has wanted a wisdom entry, evidently < 1498699202 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry, that's what I meant) < 1498699213 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't mean to spam it that time < 1498699267 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't always get what you want < 1498699268 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1498699269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1498699277 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1498699278 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gotta ease into it < 1498699287 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1498699604 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bad < 1498699849 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got to go < 1498699852 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1498699887 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn newbie of the month//Newbie of the Month is a traditional #esoteric position. Benefits include gentle mentoring, like having shachaf revert all your wisdom additions. < 1498699890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'newbie of the month': Newbie of the Month is a traditional #esoteric position. Benefits include gentle mentoring, like having shachaf revert all your wisdom additions. < 1498701301 0 :nullcone_!?@? NICK :nullcone < 1498702096 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498702154 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION helloes hellørjan < 1498702191 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1498702198 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:turing//Turing is what you are doing when you Tur. \ the u//The U are a very mad people. \ csv//CSV猫stands猫for猫Cat猫Separated猫Values \ oren's font//\oren\'s font neoletters is http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm \ lachine//Unholy portal to China, closely guarded from Ëvil by Roujo. < 1498702208 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: One of those was a wisdom replacement. < 1498702210 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? in < 1498702212 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 1492 Jesus sailed the ocean blue. < 1498702214 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg in < 1498702222 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11053:2017-06-29 revert 11027 \ 11051:2017-06-28 <__kerbal_̈_> learn In CCCP, esolangs create YOU! \ 10539:2017-03-28 slwd in//s/Columbus/Jesus/ \ 7445:2016-04-17 learn In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue. \ 7444:2016-04-17 learn In your dreams, sucker! < 1498702236 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget in < 1498702238 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1498702247 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloochaforget. < 1498702282 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1498702358 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:2cf1:96b6:81a4:e192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498702683 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:2cf1:96b6:81a4:e192 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1498702710 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498702943 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SELECTED CHICKEN < 1498703502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i just missed boily < 1498703563 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :obscunguage hellomanteau averted < 1498703583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd lachine//s,U,Lachine is an u, < 1498703585 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lachine//Lachine is an unholy portal to China, closely guarded from Ëvil by Roujo. < 1498703658 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn In just a few months, you may be able to apply `learn properly. < 1498703661 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'in': In just a few months, you may be able to apply `learn properly. < 1498703669 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1498703811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i have been too lazy to find obscure languanteaus for a while. < 1498703831 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that didn't work as intended tdnh < 1498703884 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you intend, a quick kickban? < 1498703920 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a quick swat < 1498703947 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wouldn't be abusing my op powers tdnh < 1498703959 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quickban < 1498703965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kick < 1498703996 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi has a command for quickbans, i forgot what it was called. < 1498704016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's not that quick when i need to get ops first. < 1498704036 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and also keep them until the ban expires) < 1498704147 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get it to auto-op you when you use an op command, and auto-unop when you haven't used one for some duration < 1498704178 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably, somehow. < 1498704271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I don't know how. < 1498704274 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've seen it done. < 1498704836 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52331&oldid=52313 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+2229) 10 < 1498704874 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52332&oldid=52331 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+68) 10 < 1498705113 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52333&oldid=52332 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+256) 10 < 1498705132 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52334&oldid=52333 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (-7) 10 < 1498705517 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1498705571 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: One time I made a LISP macro cr that could be used as (cr addad x) < 1498705582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the whole cadadr thing is a scow convention. < 1498705641 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it describes a path in a binary tree, from right to left. < 1498705680 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98df:ec9f:9d0c:a035:8502:2613 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's just a really bizarre way to write a binary string < 1498705748 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hash consing" is a scow name imo < 1498705755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like hash tables? < 1498705763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're pretty neat. < 1498707269 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498707824 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98df:ec9f:9d0c:a035:8502:2613 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never been a huge fan of data structures which rely on incomprehensibility < 1498707834 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98df:ec9f:9d0c:a035:8502:2613 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are neat in their own way though < 1498707848 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98df:ec9f:9d0c:a035:8502:2613 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just... find it hard to trust them very much < 1498707906 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :incomprehensibility? < 1498707908 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes Cale with a finger tree < 1498708056 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean that you can't tell much about x from H(x)? < 1498708900 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52335&oldid=52334 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+156) 10 < 1498709028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52336&oldid=52335 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (-58) 10 < 1498709174 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52337&oldid=52336 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+4) 10 < 1498709323 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52338&oldid=52337 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (-42) 10 < 1498709339 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52339&oldid=52338 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+0) 10 < 1498709713 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1498710139 0 :augur!~augur@208.66.31.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498710416 0 :augur!~augur@208.66.31.98 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1498716051 0 :augur!~augur@2601:643:8400:9b9b:4d78:13f7:6c55:571f JOIN :#esoteric < 1498716355 0 :augur!~augur@2601:643:8400:9b9b:4d78:13f7:6c55:571f QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1498716654 0 :augur!~augur@2601:643:8400:9b9b:4ce0:cc91:6b77:947f JOIN :#esoteric < 1498716780 0 :augur!~augur@2601:643:8400:9b9b:4ce0:cc91:6b77:947f QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1498716788 0 :augur!~augur@2601:643:8400:9b9b:4ce0:cc91:6b77:947f JOIN :#esoteric < 1498720244 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Work < 1498720552 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1498722043 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1498722454 0 :nullcone_!uid11626@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wsljqjpaobzlwmzm JOIN :#esoteric < 1498724636 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498724650 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1498724769 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498725270 0 :augur!~augur@2601:643:8400:9b9b:4ce0:cc91:6b77:947f QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1498725470 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1498725477 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498726501 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1498726571 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498727128 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1498727533 0 :vota!~vota@90.151.38.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498727541 0 :augur!~augur@2601:643:8400:9b9b:4ce0:cc91:6b77:947f JOIN :#esoteric < 1498727560 0 :vota!~vota@90.151.38.244 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1498727608 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zcuuqhvhyr8nha.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1498727665 0 :augur!~augur@2601:643:8400:9b9b:4ce0:cc91:6b77:947f QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1498728288 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1498728994 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498729121 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:bcc8:20e5:438a:fde9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498731895 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1498732181 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:bcc8:20e5:438a:fde9 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1498734899 0 :augur!~augur@2601:643:8400:9b9b:4ce0:cc91:6b77:947f JOIN :#esoteric < 1498735192 0 :augur!~augur@2601:643:8400:9b9b:4ce0:cc91:6b77:947f QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1498735920 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498737642 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:6d1a:48df:4e09:7767 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498738195 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1498738300 0 :nullcone_!uid11626@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wsljqjpaobzlwmzm QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1498738902 0 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1498739344 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: STATUE CHICKEN < 1498740245 0 :GeekDude!~G33kDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1498740626 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1498740872 0 :wob_jonas!53fdf1ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.253.241.234 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498740887 0 :wob_jonas!53fdf1ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.253.241.234 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the non-esoteric language website http://python.org is down < 1498740893 0 :GeekDude!~G33kDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1498741954 0 :__kerbal__!a2866206@gateway/web/freenode/ip.162.134.98.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498741967 0 :__kerbal__!a2866206@gateway/web/freenode/ip.162.134.98.6 QUIT :Client Quit < 1498742255 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1498743141 0 :sdhand!~sam@unaffiliated/kyubiko QUIT :Excess Flood < 1498743150 0 :sdhand!~sam@2001:41c8:51:10d:: JOIN :#esoteric < 1498743173 0 :sdhand!?@? NICK :Guest52295 < 1498743185 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498743322 0 :wob_jonas!53fdf1ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.253.241.234 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, ais523 < 1498743341 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya < 1498743433 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1498743474 0 :wob_jonas!53fdf1ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.253.241.234 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you happen to know anything about the computational power of StackFlow with only a limited number of stacks (two or three) but an unlimited number of symbols? < 1498743500 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not offhand; I know it doesn't need very many stacks to be TC (single digits), but don't know what the precise minimum number is < 1498743549 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cyclic tag interpreter uses six stacks, one of which is used purely for I/O and thus doesn't affect Turing-completeness < 1498743556 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the necessary number is ≤ 5 < 1498743561 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also we know it can't be TC with 1 stack < 1498743563 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's 2, 3, 4, or 5 < 1498743590 0 :wob_jonas!53fdf1ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.253.241.234 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or also the computational power of a machine with two stacks, an unlimited number of symbols, such that if you pop the second stack then the core state is a function of the popped symbol (like in StackFlow) but if you pop the first stack then the core state is a function of the pair of the previous state and the popped symbol (like in a normal mult < 1498743590 0 :wob_jonas!53fdf1ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.253.241.234 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i-stack machine)? < 1498743617 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be interested in The Amnesiac From Minsk, which is basically the same idea but for counters < 1498743627 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:6d1a:48df:4e09:7767 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1498743660 0 :wob_jonas!53fdf1ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.253.241.234 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I'll try to re-read how that works, but here I'm not trying to limit the number of (tape/stack) symbols < 1498743728 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1498743736 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you have some application in mind for this? < 1498743794 0 :wob_jonas!53fdf1ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.253.241.234 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to invent an esolang that so far I can only prove turing-complete because it can simulate a two-stack machine (not a stack-flow one, but one with proper persistent state for both stacks), < 1498743811 0 :wob_jonas!53fdf1ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.253.241.234 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm trying to figure out if there are other ways to prove it turing-complete < 1498743818 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, actually I'm reminded a lot of Incident too < 1498743822 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not the silly parsing stuff but the data storage) < 1498743925 0 :wob_jonas!53fdf1ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.253.241.234 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using the two stacks isn't a practical way to write programs, I know a much more practical way, only that one might not be Turing-complete technically, because even though I can random access lots of memory that way (the amount of memory grows very quickly in the size of the program), I'm not sure I can access an unbounded amount of memory with a f < 1498743925 0 :wob_jonas!53fdf1ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.253.241.234 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ixed program. < 1498744279 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zcuuqhvhyr8nha.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1498744756 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use the stacks to store a single counter with multiply and divide operations; that gives you the infinite storage you need < 1498744765 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then only use it when you absolutely had to < 1498744786 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, you can use one stack to store the counter, using the other as a temporary to multiply and divide it < 1498744796 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use the other for whatever you like, except in the middle of a multiply/divide operaiton < 1498744802 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*operation < 1498744832 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498745230 0 :wob_jonas!53fdf1ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.253.241.234 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, trying to reduce to a counter machine. might work. < 1498745691 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could alternatively use both as a tape, but then you wouldn't be able to use them for other things too < 1498745714 0 :augur!~augur@2601:643:8400:9b9b:4ce0:cc91:6b77:947f JOIN :#esoteric < 1498745987 0 :augur!~augur@2601:643:8400:9b9b:4ce0:cc91:6b77:947f QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1498747433 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1498747603 0 :Guest52295!~sam@2001:41c8:51:10d:: QUIT :Changing host < 1498747603 0 :Guest52295!~sam@unaffiliated/kyubiko JOIN :#esoteric < 1498747603 0 :Guest52295!?@? NICK :sdhand < 1498747667 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:ed68:e1a8:a1a:b944 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498748021 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy QUIT :Quit: Divided by zero < 1498748031 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy JOIN :#esoteric < 1498750805 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:ed68:e1a8:a1a:b944 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1498751557 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1498752865 0 :wob_jonas!53fdf1ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.253.241.234 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1498754918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Qwertyu6314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52340&oldid=52339 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+143) 10 < 1498755586 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1498756616 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1498757246 0 :atslash!~atslash@213.87.163.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498757359 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498758029 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1498758533 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1498759488 0 :sdhand!~sam@unaffiliated/kyubiko QUIT :Excess Flood < 1498759496 0 :sdhand!~sam@2001:41c8:51:10d:: JOIN :#esoteric < 1498759520 0 :sdhand!?@? 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NICK :sdhand < 1498759880 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoops, meant to oerjan++ yesterday but forgot < 1498759884 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmnhh < 1498759979 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498760818 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zcuuqhvhyr8nha.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1498760824 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1498761067 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498761382 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1498761545 0 :atslash!~atslash@213.87.163.13 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1498761776 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498761954 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1498762433 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498762653 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1498762786 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498763267 0 :hppavilion[0]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1498763281 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1498764491 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1498764739 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1498766874 0 :wob_jonas!53fdf1ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.253.241.234 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498767026 0 :wob_jonas!53fdf1ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.253.241.234 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: four stacks for StackFlow are enough for Turing-completeness, and you don't even need counter machines for that < 1498767471 0 :wob_jonas!53fdf1ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.253.241.234 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1498767621 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1498767966 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498767978 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1498768609 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1498768732 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98df:ec9f:9d0c:a035:8502:2613 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1498768762 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98df:ec9f:9d0c:a035:8502:2613 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498769087 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1498769381 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498770984 0 :MrBismuth!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:c801:d7f:77e1:92be JOIN :#esoteric < 1498771008 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1498771078 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498771133 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@104-50-90-48.lightspeed.brhmal.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1498771852 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1498772554 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1498772798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Zeryx14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52341 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+2365) 10Created page with "'''Zeryx''' is a simple language designed by [[User:Conor O'Brien]]. Suppose a program in this language is referred to as '''S'''. '''N''' starts at 0. Then, the commands of..." < 1498773616 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498773965 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1498774900 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1498775331 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1498776071 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@172.56.39.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1498777721 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498777820 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1498778203 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zcuuqhvhyr8nha.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1498778243 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1498778252 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1498778546 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498778583 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1498778793 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1498779609 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1498780394 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1498780627 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1498780745 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”