< 1499731267 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :__kerbal__: Both, I believe. It was a while ago that I wrote this. I can barely understand my own prose. < 1499731271 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should learn PERL
< 1499731445 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... how does that work, exactly? Is it a quantum thing? < 1499731499 0 :wob_jonas!b03f19a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499731513 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: but maybe if it _were_ on fire, you might finally get rid of the build system! < 1499731735 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally everything is broken < 1499731786 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :email, ssh, and even hipchat are all fucking dead < 1499732017 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499732045 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a Cloud At Cost server to me. < 1499732147 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :has california just been annihilated by nuclear attack? < 1499732153 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why do you keep bugging \oren\ about the build system < 1499732370 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just trying to raise his hopes hth < 1499732411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i thought you were the one previously doing that. < 1499732422 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it's not necessary anymore tdh < 1499732449 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i accidentally saw a photograph of \oren\ the other day < 1499732459 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it shocking? < 1499732461 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :photographs are scow < 1499732467 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was mildly shocking < 1499732483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: i think not, unless shachaf is a ghost < 1499732489 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did that happen? < 1499732515 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to remember whether it was SoundHound that he worked at. < 1499732523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1499732527 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I have experience using both the Waterfall methodology and Agile/XP methodologies." < 1499732534 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many methodologies < 1499732579 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... i mean "waterfall" is just a stupid name for a normal long-cycle development process < 1499732596 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't "waterfall" a straw man that people use to sell scrum < 1499732604 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much < 1499732612 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1499732616 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:00 I read some passwords from https://www.isi.edu/natural-language/people/poem/poem.php and now I can't stop thinking in iambic tetrameter. < 1499732631 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hydrological cycle methodology < 1499732634 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :next time I update linkedin I shoudl delete that line < 1499732655 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to keep working at this company? < 1499732675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can't even get my humming right. < 1499732705 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming working conditions remain ok, and they keep paying me, why not? < 1499732733 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the servers are on fire, and you hate your build system. < 1499732748 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not work at a company that pays you twice as much? < 1499732758 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( someone should invent the scram methodology ) < 1499732786 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, they're back online! < 1499732795 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://68.media.tumblr.com/74d95a31741535ce4661efb0c710d8ac/tumblr_inline_mhyiwy6aAE1qz4rgp.png < 1499732798 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder hwy everything broke suddenly < 1499732832 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499732841 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i've had offers but they all involved moving to the usa < 1499732851 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and well... fuck that < 1499732859 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you like the USA? < 1499732892 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dangerous < 1499732941 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I did the iambic tetrameter thing in here before. < 1499732944 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least somewhere in IRC. < 1499732971 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm i remember that from last you told me about those, i think. (but not what they were called.) < 1499733000 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tunes.org/~nef//logs/esoteric/16.06.07 < 1499733005 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:39:20 oerjan: placenta-based homology? / i owe you an apology < 1499733012 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's right. < 1499733050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not the tetrameters, the scrams < 1499733057 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the usa is a dangerous place, a lot of the places require owning (and learning to drive) a car, and I like my free healthcare < 1499733064 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1499733076 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: They're called knids in English, apparently. < 1499733083 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't read the book in English, I don't think. < 1499733107 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Well, you can move somewhere that doesn't require a car. < 1499733147 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much are you willing to pay for free healthcare? < 1499733242 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... free < 1499733294 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were saying you had offers to be paid twice as much to move to the USA. < 1499733356 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think the iambic tetrameter I was thinking of may have been Kubla Khan. < 1499733361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499733802 0 :wob_jonas!b03f19a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yeah... i mean "waterfall" is just a stupid name for a normal long-cycle development process" => wait, I thought "waterfall" was management-speak for "we don't know what the program we want to create has to do, but just create 90% of it anyway without a spec, then near the end we'll tell what it should have done and you'll just change it to do tha < 1499733802 0 :wob_jonas!b03f19a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t instead in a week." < 1499733930 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1499733976 0 :wob_jonas!b03f19a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I admit I know little about all this methodology andpattern thing. < 1499734018 0 :wob_jonas!b03f19a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have a software team with buzzword-oriented development though, you could ask them. < 1499734340 0 :wob_jonas!b03f19a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're competent, mind you, but they have all these complicated procedures and meetings and task tracking docs. < 1499734606 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :restarting my browser when i have 3 youtube tabs open is somewhat noisy. < 1499734677 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a man who seldom speaks his mind / can cause behavior undefined < 1499734681 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Getchl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52413&oldid=45294 5* 03Kerbal 5* (+8849) 10Added the info from https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IVBYW2CSDgvspkCl0nYTy-FQPUwozYdkX2H-cZGwALo/edit?usp=sharing < 1499734715 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Here you go < 1499734725 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not perfect, but a start < 1499734725 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :__kerbal__: Yay < 1499735512 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1499736263 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An idea... what if the only storage in a program was the title thing that displays above a program window in Windows? Or some other bizarre component normally used for something else? < 1499736295 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would be a weird language < 1499736778 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :__kerbal__: Huh, perhaps. But it sounds more like a hack than an inherently-weird feature < 1499736793 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True... < 1499736820 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've a point < 1499737378 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still am thinking about building a framework for executing multiple tape-based languages on the same tape. That could be a useful, very esoteric way to leverage the benefits of multiple languages. You could download and share images between programs by combining Graphical BF and Netf***, and implement threading with Weave or a similar language. < 1499737406 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that all the languages I mentioned are BF variants, but you could use others as well, like my esolang < 1499737717 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have a readable, simple language (I'm calling it TapeLang right now) holding everything together. Perhaps (although this may or may not actually happen) the language would treat other programs as first-class citizens < 1499738460 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1499738769 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499738803 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499738934 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499738946 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499739185 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1499739421 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1499739576 0 :__kerbal__!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1499739856 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1499741212 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1499741375 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499741502 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@2602:306:c58e:4fd8:f1b0:a135:5840:9420 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499741592 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499742062 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1499742066 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:lystrosaur//The lystrosaurs were an ancient genus of evil reptiles who successfully took over the world in the early Triassic. \ jerk//Jerk is the integral of snap. \ mousse//A mousse is a sharp rodent. "A mousse once bit my sister." \ monqy//monqy is no longer extant. He lives in concept, hidden, unfindable. You could ask itidus21 for details, < 1499742068 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1499742069 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2: if you find him. \ code//[11,11,11,15,15,23,12],[5,5,5,3,53,45,16,26,00,20,15,16,22,25,45,91,32,11,15,27,06,01,11,01,47,22,30,13,43,21,11,13,29,61,65,17,19,12,28,17,11,01,23,20,16,20,81,18,32,25,58,22.,1985,10.301350435,1555466973690094680980000956080767,13720946704494913791885940266665466978579582015128512190078... < 1499742075 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits code < 1499742081 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsweẗt int-̈e < 1499742109 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg code < 1499742115 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5674:2015-06-24 echo \'[11,11,11,15,15,23,12],[5,5,5,3,53,45,16,26,00,20,15,16,22,25,45,91,32,11,15,27,06,01,11,01,47,22,30,13,43,21,11,13,29,61,65,17,19,12,28,17,11,01,23,20,16,20,81,18,32,25,58,22.,1985,10.301350435,1555466973690094680980000956080767,13720946704494913791885940266665466978579582015128512190078...\' > wisdom/code \ 5658: < 1499742120 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2 dowg code < 1499742127 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:658:2015-06-23 le/rn code/5 9 51 8 0 1 2 1 1 3 4 2 1 4 7 5 8 57 2 5 3 2 2 4 7 6 3 6 1 < 1499742152 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, Warrigal: what's all this then? < 1499742728 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1499743418 0 :wob_jonas!b03f19a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.162 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1499743673 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1499743874 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1499744084 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1499744637 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@2602:306:c58e:4fd8:f1b0:a135:5840:9420 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1499747202 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499747366 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499748174 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@2602:306:c58e:4fd8:c88a:2656:e90f:5f4b JOIN :#esoteric < 1499749802 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1499749838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499749907 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499750323 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@2602:306:c58e:4fd8:c88a:2656:e90f:5f4b QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1499751349 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@2602:306:c58e:4fd8:fd76:fb2d:48e:65df JOIN :#esoteric < 1499751417 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07XRF14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52414&oldid=41670 5* 03Scoppini 5* (+2) 10Fix link < 1499751460 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Slim14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52415&oldid=45218 5* 03Scoppini 5* (+2) 10Fix link < 1499751745 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I think what I need is to write a preprocessor for kerboscript programs. I will write said preprocessor itself in kerboscript. < 1499752077 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499753381 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499756071 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499756362 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@2602:306:c58e:4fd8:fd76:fb2d:48e:65df QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1499756619 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1499757959 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@2602:306:c58e:4fd8:f0cf:c100:de10:89d8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499758270 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1499758972 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f93b:9c0b:277a:5fb JOIN :#esoteric < 1499758981 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@2602:306:c58e:4fd8:f0cf:c100:de10:89d8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1499759744 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1499759932 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1499759933 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is out of date tdnh < 1499760030 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: mine was contextual; Randomly generated error message: 13:37:54: `run echo $ 5 9 51 8 0 1 2 1 1 3 4 2 1 4 7 5 8 57 2 5 3 2 2 4 7 6 3 6 1 < 1499760068 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :... 15:09:28: data darn, preceding the complete path < 1499760104 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499760208 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The password of the month is blowin' in the wind. < 1499760210 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'password': The password of the month is blowin' in the wind. < 1499760643 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg password < 1499760649 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11081:2017-07-11 learn The password of the month is blowin\' in the wind. \ 10981:2017-06-02 revert \ 10980:2017-06-02 revert \ 10979:2017-06-02 learn The password of the month is out of date tdnh \ 10898:2017-05-14 le/rn password//The password of the month is poochpoochpoochpoochpooch \ 10595: < 1499760730 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1499762542 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1499763131 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499764120 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1499765383 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1499765874 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f93b:9c0b:277a:5fb QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499769041 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1499769540 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f93b:9c0b:277a:5fb JOIN :#esoteric < 1499771162 0 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1499771226 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499772270 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f93b:9c0b:277a:5fb QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1499772875 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499775703 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f93b:9c0b:277a:5fb JOIN :#esoteric < 1499775792 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: FLAVOUR CHICKEN < 1499776349 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:c410:147b:575d:342d QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1499776405 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:c410:147b:575d:342d JOIN :#esoteric < 1499781633 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499782561 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1499783632 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1499783633 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1499784292 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1499784688 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1499785558 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1499785799 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for some good spam so I can pretend to be a bot on a webforum < 1499785822 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know an abandoned forum that I can mine for material? < 1499785860 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: https://esolangs.org/forum/ hth < 1499785892 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect, thank you < 1499785894 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spam isn't very fresh though, since it's also readonly. < 1499786113 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stale is fine, quantity is what I needed < 1499786115 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a forum? wow... < 1499786179 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And wow, selling box sets of DVDs. How quaint. No Game of Thrones either. < 1499786245 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what a difference 6 years can make) < 1499787601 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- part: lord_EarlGray left #esoteric <-- i guess we weren't his cup of tea. < 1499787832 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were even a few non-spam posts in the forum. < 1499787834 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not many though. < 1499788990 0 :impomatic!~digital_w@host81-136-82-211.range81-136.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1499791091 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :word-addressible or byte-addressible? < 1499791110 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/sible/sable < 1499791276 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1499791334 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1499791403 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1499791906 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1499792088 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1499793401 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1499793762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg password < 1499793768 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11081:2017-07-11 learn The password of the month is blowin\' in the wind. \ 10981:2017-06-02 revert \ 10980:2017-06-02 revert \ 10979:2017-06-02 learn The password of the month is out of date tdnh \ 10898:2017-05-14 le/rn password//The password of the month is poochpoochpoochpoochpooch \ 10595: < 1499793838 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :deja vu. < 1499793888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it was. < 1499793903 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was surprised it had really been a month. < 1499793912 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? time flies < 1499793912 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time flies? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1499793919 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bzzz! < 1499793926 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grwp -i time flies < 1499793927 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: flies: No such file or directory \ ☾_:☾_ is moon_'s lawful twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. He sometimes eats papers. \ `4:`4 is equivalent to `5 , except that it only repeats 4 times. Useful when you've already run a command forgetting to use `5. \ `5:`5 is equivalent to repeating `` < 1499793937 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grwp -i 'time flies' < 1499793939 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1499793959 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? arrow < 1499793960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arrows are just strong monads in the category of profunctors. < 1499793961 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( time flies are buzzing around the clock ) < 1499794133 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append arrow Time flies are attracted to them. < 1499794135 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'arrow': Arrows are just strong monads in the category of profunctors. Time flies are attracted to them. < 1499794141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1499794143 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1499794144 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1499794175 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1499794178 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1499794179 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1499794192 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hand < 1499794192 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION got confused by the absence of "Relearned"
< 1499794193 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hand in the bush is better than a stoned bird. < 1499794268 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1499794582 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what she says < 1499794813 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1499795492 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1499795773 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey. what if you have a machine that is byte-addressed but only reads whole words < 1499796351 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f93b:9c0b:277a:5fb QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499796366 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f93b:9c0b:277a:5fb JOIN :#esoteric < 1499796410 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( what if I have a machine that is byte-addressed but only reads whole cache lines, except for memory regions marked specially to indicate that they are used for memory mapped IO? ) < 1499796542 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why on Earth would anyone send an email with Reply-To == To ? < 1499796563 0 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's fun? < 1499796595 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It *was* an email that people might want to reply to. Maybe it's a way to fend off automatic replies like the notorious out of office emails.) < 1499797007 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f93b:9c0b:277a:5fb QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499797007 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just send it to Steve Morshead < 1499797112 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1499797129 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apparently they closed the account < 1499797145 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, are closing, I see < 1499797335 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f93b:9c0b:277a:5fb JOIN :#esoteric < 1499797919 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually the notice was sent in June. So it may be gone, unless the public shaming had any effect. < 1499797947 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you email and ask? < 1499797955 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if you get a reply. < 1499797959 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1499797964 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:brevity//syn. "shortness" \ macedonia//Macedonia is a country of which the United Nations denies the existence, just like Taiwan is. \ bird//The Bird is Cruel! \ pastry//A pastry is a sugary confectionery that is customarily eaten after writing an essay. \ bdsm//BDSM definitely isn't a kind of LARP and Taneb definitely did not invent it. < 1499797993 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm done talking to shachaf. < 1499798005 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1499798253 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits bird < 1499798259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachäf Phantom_Hoovër nortẗi Phantom_Hoovër < 1499798264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg bird < 1499798271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10471:2017-03-21 learn The Bird is Cruel! \ 2180:2013-02-19 learn bird bird bird bird \ 2179:2013-02-19 learn bird is a dinosaur \ 2178:2013-02-19 learn bird bird bird bird < 1499798275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget bird < 1499798276 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1499798281 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canary < 1499798282 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A canary is a small bright yellow chicken that dwells in deep caves. Unlike bats, canaries are oriented right way up. < 1499798284 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bird! what's the matter with you? < 1499798297 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1499798298 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: canary: Permission denied < 1499798321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember when we figured out how to delete canary? < 1499798324 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It broke everything. < 1499798328 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was great. < 1499798330 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember < 1499798338 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised this unreadable one doesn't do the same thing < 1499798343 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`stat canary < 1499798343 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File: ‘canary’ \ Size: 0 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 1024 regular empty file \ Device: 12h/18d Inode: 657446 Links: 1 \ Access: (0000/----------) Uid: ( 5000/ UNKNOWN) Gid: ( 0/ UNKNOWN) \ Access: 2017-05-15 14:57:34.000000000 +0000 \ Modify: 2017-04-17 19:17:05.000000000 +0000 \ Change: 2017-05-15 15:23:19.0000000 < 1499798368 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1499798457 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1499798463 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:despair//Despair is but the first step towards eternal damnation. \ cofridge logic//Cofridge logic is the new HoTT stuff. \ c++//Along with C, C++ is a language for smart people. \ victoria//Queen Victoria is the most victorious queen the world has ever known, even having won at the not dying contest. \ identity function//The identity function < 1499798469 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1499798469 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:is a mockingbird. < 1499798474 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits canary < 1499798480 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boil̈y oerjän FireFl̈y FireFl̈y < 1499798601 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canary < 1499798602 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A canary is a small bright yellow chicken that dwells in deep caves. Unlike bats, canaries are oriented right way up. < 1499798618 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAVE CHICKEN < 1499800299 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@137.164.121.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499800809 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:c410:147b:575d:342d QUIT :Quit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIIqYqtR1lY -- Suicide is Painless - Johnny Mandel < 1499802331 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( What's the current maximal size of Russell's teapot, say, at 99% confidence? ) < 1499802893 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@137.164.121.194 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1499803527 0 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1499804632 0 :impomatic!~digital_w@host81-136-82-211.range81-136.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1499805127 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:74fb:f22a:a595:fac JOIN :#esoteric < 1499807512 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1499808024 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1499808205 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@137.164.121.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499808236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1499808677 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1499810351 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f93b:9c0b:277a:5fb QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499810662 0 :betaveros!~betaveros@mint-square.mit.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499811554 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f93b:9c0b:277a:5fb JOIN :#esoteric < 1499811618 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/factory.jpg ... screenshot from a video game (Broken Sword 5, an okay click & point adventure game, better than parts 3 and 4 so far) < 1499811912 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. Well, it's iconic. < 1499811919 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played the one set in Paris. < 1499811932 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars – Director's Cut", I think.) < 1499812032 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f93b:9c0b:277a:5fb QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1499812585 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the one set in Paris" is kind of cute... I think they all have a part playing in Paris. < 1499812621 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't know that. Well, that one anyway. < 1499812780 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f93b:9c0b:277a:5fb JOIN :#esoteric < 1499813064 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the main issue with parts 3 and 4 is the awkward 3D interface... part 5 is back to 2D graphics with painted scenes, and more traditional puzzles (parts 3 and 4 feature some scenes where you need to evade guards, and some sokoban style puzzles... at the same time skimping on the more traditional interactions) < 1499813078 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ) < 1499813083 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​)? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1499813101 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( `learn ) is the missing closing parenthesis, provided here for balance. ) < 1499813317 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499813445 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:74fb:f22a:a595:fac QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1499814038 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1499814380 0 :Remavas-Hex!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1499814539 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@137.164.121.194 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1499814570 0 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1499814631 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1499814735 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1499814740 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:wisdomme//wisdomme is a PDF that may be in the topic. boily is the one who compiles it. See `? wisdom.pdf \ hðh//hðh is how hppavilion[n] decides to sæ 'hth' when e's beiŋ annoyiŋ. At least, in a subset of ðose times. \ sparkle//Sparkles are annoying visual artifacts that people try to use deliberately for decoration and artistic photogra < 1499814781 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1499814782 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:phs and drawings. \ html//HTML is short for "hope this mess loads". \ 21//21 is both half the answer and a cardgame. The latter is similiar to Bladder-Burst?. < 1499814815 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm often confused when I read about food on the internet. I don't know enough about food in general, and also it comes with a lot of specialized vocabulary separately in English and Hungarian where I don't know translations nor meanings of lots of words in either language. < 1499814832 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I started to make some notes: first about the type of cereals at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:B_jonas#Types_of_cereal < 1499814837 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next I should do the types of nuts/. < 1499815093 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wellob_jonas! < 1499815144 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily (oily like nuts.) < 1499815180 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooking is best done by ear; it has to sound right when doing it. < 1499815224 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and imperial units all the way. none of that gram and decilitre shenanigans. < 1499815248 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? no way < 1499815256 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metric is useful for cooking < 1499815273 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imperial is for fantasy stuff like dungeon corridor widths and minifig sizes < 1499815295 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and weights of items in your inventory < 1499815333 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you measure foodstuff in metric, which is convenient because most of them are typically packaged in round amounts of metric units (kilograms or liters) < 1499815371 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some actually must be packaged in round amounts by law, some are just packaged that way by custom) < 1499815412 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tablespoons, cups, pounds and fahrenheit! < 1499815488 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could perhaps make an argument for teaspoons and tablespoons of spice or salt, yeah, the previous argument doesn't apply to them because you use only small amount at a time < 1499815498 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why cups and pounds? < 1499815533 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cups are tremendously useful. quarter, third, half and one cup. it's the same measure for all your ingredients. < 1499815586 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pounds are just... anthropocentric? eg. ¼ lb for a meat patty. it's a nice number, easy to remember. < 1499815659 0 :Remavas-Hex!?@? NICK :Remavas < 1499815747 0 :yabuti!~aufablje@136.ip-144-217-243.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499815747 0 :yabuti!~aufablje@136.ip-144-217-243.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1499815772 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I don't think it helps more than kilograms < 1499815847 0 :yabuti!~zqxikh@136.ip-144-217-243.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499815847 0 :yabuti!~zqxikh@136.ip-144-217-243.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1499816108 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1499816190 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1499816191 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course the decimal system helps me make mental calculations, as opposed to the strange conversion ratios like {mile, yard, food, inch, 1/16 inch, 1/1000 inch}, {pound, ounce, grains}, {gallon, pint, fl ounce}, and the confusing multiple similarly named units (there are like four kinds of ounces still commonly in use) < 1499816263 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously it used to be even worse in the past, when they had a different measurement system in every region, but you can't blame people for that back when travel was difficult and technology less advanced. < 1499816289 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yob_jonas < 1499816300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think many units people use are backwards. < 1499816313 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, speed should be measured in time/distance instead of distance/time < 1499816327 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bandwidth should be measured in time/bytes rather than bytes/time < 1499816408 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not obvious which kind of "league" Jules Verne uses as measurement units in multiple of his books. Journey to the center of earth seems to use the 3898 meter long French league. < 1499816563 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: bandwidth in information per time is reasonable imo because it's additive that way. the problem with bandwidth units is that people use too many units for information including bits, bytes, 512 byte blocks/sectors, kilobits, kilobytes, kibibits, kibibytes, megabits, megabytes, mebibytes, gigabits, gigabytes, gibibytes, terabytes. < 1499816581 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sometimes it's not clear whether someone means bits or bytes, and whether they mean decimal or binary. < 1499816602 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you pay X to get Y, you should be using the unit Y/X < 1499816625 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You pay litres of petrol to get kilometres of distance, so you should use the unit litres/kilometre < 1499816659 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would make the abbreviations more clear if people started using octets instead of bytes even in English. < 1499816708 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: as for fuel usage, that varies by country, some countries like Hungary use liters per hundred kilometer, some use kilometers per ten liter or something like that (I'm not sure about the exponent of 10 there), some use miles per gallons. < 1499816744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind the constant factor. I meant l/100km < 1499816748 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For prices, I've never seen the price in the divisor used for anything. < 1499816767 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I considered saying "octet" above, but I said "byte" so that I'm ambiguous about the constant factor. < 1499816802 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, interesting. < 1499816820 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gallons per dollar? < 1499816830 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you should use dollars per gallon. < 1499816837 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh: I'm fine with 8-bit only bytes, the problem is when on commercial labels "B" can stand for bits or bytes and you can't tell which. Some packagings even write "KG" for kilogram, which is terrible. < 1499816850 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Because you pay gallons to get dollars? < 1499816861 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you pay dollars to get gallons. < 1499816867 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you should use $/gal < 1499816881 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's exactly opposite to the rule you said. < 1499816885 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1499816894 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you pay X to get Y, you should be using the unit Y/X." < 1499816898 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is. < 1499816911 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I spent such a long time thinking about it, too. Uselessly. < 1499816913 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much is a gallon anyway? /me looks it up < 1499816916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see. < 1499816924 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK and US gallons are different, I think? < 1499816936 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which makes "mpg" even worse.) < 1499816951 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, it's one of those multiple versions of units tied to "ounces" < 1499816961 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: The convenient thing is that l/gal and NIS/USD are pretty close. < 1499816974 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can compare .il and .us petrol prices directly, depending on the exchange rate. < 1499816978 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? what's a NIS? < 1499816983 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Israeli currency. < 1499816986 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Israeli shekel, right < 1499816994 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, let's see. < 1499817019 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to read up on this when renting a car and trying to guesstimate how often I'd need to fill it up. People just post unqualified "mpg" numbers. < 1499817029 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gal/mile means you pay gallons to get miles < 1499817039 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you pay X to get Y, you should be using the unit X/Y < 1499817048 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is waht I originally wanted to write. < 1499817052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh N is for new < 1499817059 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is it still new?) < 1499817073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I should say ILS instead of NIS < 1499817084 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never remember which one to use. < 1499817094 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"also known as simply the Israeli shekel and formerly known as the New Israeli Sheqel (NIS)," < 1499817104 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's not new anymore. < 1499817113 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been in use since before I was born. < 1499817185 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1499817213 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway. < 1499817226 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You use $/gal because you pay $ to get gal < 1499817242 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You use gal/mile because you pay gal to get mile < 1499817254 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can even multiply them together to figure out $/mile < 1499817262 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ILS is the ISO style international abbrev, similar to USD, CAD, GBP, EUR, HUF, etc. NIS is conventional domestic abbrev, similar to US$, CA$, £, €, Ft, which you use locally. < 1499817288 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? < 1499817325 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when commerce gets international and people ordering stuff on Ebay in various foreign currencies, it's better to use the former < 1499817399 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the trick is that the three-letter currency codes usually start with the two-letter ISO country code (except EUR), which in turn usually agrees with top-level domain names (except .uk) < 1499817421 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you say NIS is conventional domestic abbrev? < 1499817441 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should have used DEE for the euro < 1499817542 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was only in the past couple of years that I realized why the symbol ₪ is used for NIS. < 1499817554 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1adf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.26.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it used? < 1499817576 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ₪ < 1499817577 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+20AA NEW SHEQEL SIGN] < 1499817585 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like the acronym ש"ח