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00:00:30 <wob_jonas> That's the same as in the Hungarian translation.
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00:01:18 <zzo38> I also think it would make more sense with Delta, Sigma, Pi, anyways, although the book I have says otherwise. (Perhaps a note saying that allegedly some versions use different Greek alphabets)
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00:01:57 <zzo38> (I don't know why this book I have says something different, then.)
00:02:05 <wob_jonas> zzo38: actually a Lambda would make sense somewhere in there, because the book uses Lambda for the null pointer, so that would come handy in debug printouts
00:02:52 <wob_jonas> So perhaps Delta, Lambda, Sigma might have been the best combo; although some punctuation signs or accents may make even more sense than greek letters.
00:03:21 <zzo38> Yes, maybe, or that too, it makes some sense you are right.
00:03:46 <wob_jonas> zzo38: just to make sure, the book you have from the library is in English, right?
00:03:59 <zzo38> Yes, it is English
00:05:14 <zzo38> Although the character codes only go up to 55 and it would be possible to add more if needed, anyways
00:08:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:MIX (Knuth)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52436&oldid=52433 * B jonas * (+555)
00:09:17 <wob_jonas> I documented this on the talk page in case I need the info later.
00:10:56 <wob_jonas> This explains the accent signs, but as for the difference in greek characters, it might be worth to ask the reasons on some other forum.
00:11:13 <wob_jonas> For history that is, not because it matters in practice.
00:17:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Oerjan * deleted "[[Hi\n]]": Author request: Original author blanked page, assuming e wants to delete
00:19:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Joke language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52437&oldid=51709 * Oerjan * (-50) /* General languages */ Remove hi\n
00:20:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User talk:Xavo]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52438 * Oerjan * (+206) Hi\n deleted
00:41:13 <wob_jonas> meanwhile I'm reorganizing my kitchen
00:42:52 <wob_jonas> the question is what to put in the harder to access top shelves
01:48:57 <oerjan> `unidecode —
01:48:58 <HackEgo> ​[U+2014 EM DASH]
01:55:45 <boily> hell―rjan.
01:57:59 <boily> \oren\: he\\oren\. https://youtu.be/1WTy2yqKI4w
01:59:50 <oerjan> even―ly
02:03:19 <int-e> . o O ( bitcoin reaches $2k again... from above )
02:03:52 * oerjan really doesn't get j-pop
02:04:28 <oerjan> bubbly bubbly bits
02:08:17 <boily> int-ello. BTC 1.00 = USD 2,000???
02:09:28 <boily> j-pop and k-pop are multiple genres unto themselves.
02:23:15 <oerjan> if i had a bitcoin / daidle deedle daidle / ...
02:34:01 <boily> `5 w
02:34:05 <HackEgo> 1/2:canaima//Canaima is a secret Venezuelan project to overrun #esoteric with incomprehensible people who have no idea why they're here. \ c//C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault \ antarctica//There's no such country as Antarctica. \ jesus//Jesus was the name of a famous wisdom creator. \  //  is a space, unless you'r
02:34:24 <boily> `n
02:34:25 <HackEgo> 2/2:e hackego and don't understand wide characters.
02:34:38 <boily> Jesus wisdommed?
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02:46:36 <oerjan> boily: obviously pre-nitia, so won't show up in history.
02:49:27 <boily> All Praise Nitia, All Hear Nitia, Nitia Who Created The World, Nitia From Which Begat Taneb, And From Taneb There Was Nitia, Heed Their Wisdom
02:49:31 <zzo38> Swiss Ephemeris has a function to convert ecliptic or equatorial coordinates into azimuth/altitude, and can do refraction too, although there is no mode to use the hour angle as input, and there is some other stuff missing too, so it is a bit useless. I could to try to reimplement my own version which does use hour angle.
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04:13:39 <zzo38> Also the documentation for Swiss Ephemeris seems to be full of a lot of lies, although looking at the source-codes helps (source-codes weren't available until version 1.26, apparently)
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08:28:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CJam-Flavored Underload]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52439 * Challenger5 * (+1022) Created page with "CJam-Flavored Underload is a dialect of [[Underload]] that makes it a proper subset of [[CJam]]. == Instructions == {| class="wikitable" |- ! Underload Command !! CFU Versio..."
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09:55:56 <Jafet> hmm is there a language based on the rowhammer effect
09:56:37 <shachaf> newsham: Maybe you know?
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12:19:17 <* Taneb> hello!
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13:16:43 <boily> @metar CYUL
13:16:43 <lambdabot> CYUL 161200Z 24010KT 30SM FEW060 FEW090 SCT150 SCT240 21/16 A2989 RMK SC1AC1AC2CI1 AC TR CI TR SLP121 DENSITY ALT 900FT
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14:26:57 <Jafet> `slwd jesus//sith.* aiai
14:27:00 <HackEgo> jesus//Jesus was a famous wisdom creator.
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15:47:45 <int-e> . o O ( s/a f/an inf/ )
15:48:07 <int-e> `? boily
15:48:08 <HackEgo> ​“Only sane adverb” boily is monetizing a brotherhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He is also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Groan Man Eating Chicken, a METARologist, seriously lacking in the f-word department, a thwack doctor, and a renowned Capitalist who helps keep the world boring.
15:48:22 <int-e> . o O ( /sith lord )
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17:08:21 <oerjan> ^ul (()(*))(~:^:S*a~^a~!~*~:(/)S^):^
17:08:21 <fungot> */*/**/***/*****/********/*************/*********************/**********************************/*******************************************************/*****************************************************************************************/********************************************************************************* ...too much output!
17:21:51 <zzo38> I made up two implementation of Underload, one in TeX and one in JavaScript.
17:25:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CJam-Flavored Underload]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52440&oldid=52439 * Oerjan * (-41) /* Example */ Seems to work fine
17:29:35 <oerjan> `before
17:29:43 <HackEgo> wisdom/jesus//Jesus was the name of a famous wisdom creator.
17:30:02 <int-e> `after
17:30:02 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: after: not found
17:30:06 <oerjan> `now
17:30:06 <HackEgo> wisdom/jesus//Jesus was a famous wisdom creator.
17:30:18 <oerjan> ah.
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17:36:09 <newsham> shachaf: never heard of such a thing (lang based on rowhammer)
17:36:33 <newsham> since the effect has low probability and is unpredictable.. seems like it would be difficult to harness for programming
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17:41:20 <Vorpal> wow submitting bugs to debian feels like an outdated process. It appears you send a mail to it rather than use a web interface.
17:43:07 <shachaf> newsham: Well, I think there are esolangs with that property.
17:44:28 <Vorpal> fizzie: I did hit a bug with the update to stretch on my VPS too. Broken AppArmor profiles for postfix. Binaries have moved, profiles aren't updated
17:44:48 <Vorpal> should have stayed on oldstable ;P
17:45:47 <int-e> @uptime
17:45:47 <lambdabot> uptime: 4h 41m 36s, longest uptime: 1m 22d 27m 19s
17:45:51 <int-e> hmm.
17:46:01 <Vorpal> that is a pretty low uptime
17:46:32 <fizzie> Vorpal: Just consider upgrading a public service -- bugs won't get fixed if nobody hits them.
17:46:44 <Vorpal> fizzie: true
17:46:53 <int-e> well the host has 2 days uptime now. but "remote host closed connection", hmm.
17:47:31 <int-e> I think that's a lie
17:47:52 <fizzie> In other news, saw a fire today. Well, or at least a bunch of smoke and a lot of emergency services cars.
17:48:14 <shachaf> Where there's a lot of emergency service cars, there's fire. As they say.
18:07:54 <Vorpal> fizzie: in other news, pulseaudio is broken on desktop after upgrade to stretch. Or so vlc claims. Have not yet debugged it
18:08:06 <int-e> Where's smoke there's smoke.
18:10:34 <Vorpal> okay mpv can play it
18:10:40 <Vorpal> so it is vlc that is borked after the upgrade
18:10:55 <Vorpal> and mpv claims to be using pulse too
18:13:42 <Vorpal> it works when I configure vlc to use pulse directly rather than to play to the pulse device using alsa
18:19:33 <zzo38> Is there a C API to use WebAssembly? There is one for JavaScript, but I thought there should be a API for use with C, also.
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18:29:51 <Vorpal> it appears my system is now sshing to itself twice every few minutes
18:30:11 <Vorpal> with "did not receive identification string from..."
18:30:53 <int-e> huh
18:31:57 <Vorpal> once from port 41xxx and then once from 59xxx
18:32:04 <Vorpal> strange
18:36:28 <int-e> I don't see anything like this. I see the usual password scanners which oddly enough do not support sha1 ( Unable to negotiate with port 57526: no matching key exchange method found. Their offer: diffie-hellman-group14-sha1,diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 [preauth])
18:39:14 <int-e> "invalid user butter" hmm.
18:39:17 <Vorpal> yeah weird
18:39:32 <Vorpal> I don't see it on my desktop, just the VPS
18:39:37 <int-e> err, do not support sha256, my bad.
18:39:38 <Vorpal> and both have sshd running
18:40:16 <Vorpal> yeah the traffic is over lo
18:40:18 <Vorpal> just checked
18:40:42 <Vorpal> with tcpdump
18:41:03 <Vorpal> hm I need netstat in some sort of quick monitor mode so I can catch which program is doing it
18:43:55 <int-e> probably? netstat -npa | grep ::1:22
18:44:51 <Vorpal> it reports with the public ip though
18:44:56 <Vorpal> and ipv4
18:45:54 <Vorpal> so I'm doing something more elaborate in a loop
18:50:29 <int-e> hmm, I've never used the audit stuff (auditctl and co)
18:51:32 <Vorpal> ooh that is a good idea
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18:51:41 <Vorpal> maybe I can use that to audit who creates a socket
18:51:48 <Vorpal> because netstat in a loop did not
18:51:55 <int-e> though it may be hard to apply it here (the syscall would be `connect`, but the interesting data is behind a pointer)
18:52:05 <Vorpal> oh, true
18:55:07 <Vorpal> int-e: the really weird thing is that it reports the external ip on lo, but maybe that is just how the kernel routes to itself when it sees it's own ip
18:56:02 <int-e> but it may still help: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/102926/how-to-interpret-the-saddr-field-of-an-audit-log
18:56:30 <Vorpal> ah neat
18:56:42 <Vorpal> I'm trying to stop various services and see if it stops happening
18:56:44 <Vorpal> stopped cron now
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18:57:50 <Vorpal> not that I saw anything about cron running something every few minutes in other logs
18:58:41 <Vorpal> nope not cron
19:01:38 <Vorpal> int-e: I figured out what it is, the IDS I use
19:01:49 <Vorpal> why it does that I don't know
19:02:07 <Vorpal> the config seems broken after upgrade anyway, it is not sending me any mail when it is stopped
19:06:02 <int-e> Fun. Maybe it's trying to check for sshd replacements (which, if done sloppily, might change the identification string that sshd sends on connect)
19:06:42 <Vorpal> well, looking in it's config file it changed format completely from what I remember
19:07:10 <Vorpal> oh well
19:07:45 <int-e> (I'm just trying to answer the question why an IDS could possibly want to do this.)
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19:08:18 <Vorpal> ah
19:08:22 <Vorpal> Yeah I don't know
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20:01:00 <zzo38> I have looked at the source codes for swe_pheno and swe_pheno_ut functions in Swiss Ephemeris, and there are some errors there too. The documentation says that SEFLG_TRUEPOS and SEFLG_HELCTR are allowed, but SEFLG_HELCTR isn't allowed (nor would it make sense), and does support some other flags (such as turning off nutation, and J2000 (although I am not sure what the choice of coordinate system has anything to do with this)).
20:01:20 <zzo38> Also, swe_pheno_ut assumes that swe_pheno returns the ephemeris used, but it doesn't (it just returns OK).
20:04:34 <zzo38> I don't know why they thought to write it like this
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20:15:04 <shachaf> fizzie: May you live in ⧔
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20:31:46 <APic> Aahhh, ye goode olde ⧔ 😎
20:49:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Ser2]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52441&oldid=36745 * Ser2 creator * (-553) implementation disapeared from the web
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