< 1503014669 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I like this < 1503015292 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1503016045 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1503017684 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503018031 0 :G33kDude!?@? NICK :GeekDude < 1503018046 0 :GeekDude!~G33kDude@c-174-53-70-27.hsd1.wv.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.8 < 1503018123 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503018136 0 :GeekDude!~G33kDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1503018356 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1503018463 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has this house been moved to WGL84 yet? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Prime_meridian.jpg < 1503018632 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503018886 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah tinnitus < 1503018988 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503019061 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1503019565 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503020777 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503020895 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503020910 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503021881 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/matslina/awib < 1503021885 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503023098 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1503023287 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1503023542 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503024275 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1503024329 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503024739 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503024964 0 :Antoxyde__!~Antoxyde@AAnnecy-654-1-74-189.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1503024987 0 :Antoxyde__!~Antoxyde@AAnnecy-654-1-74-189.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503025107 0 :Antoxyde_!~Antoxyde@185.159.156.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1503025302 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 QUIT :Quit: See ya! o/ < 1503025326 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have implemented some map projections: Eckert II, Winkel tripel, Kavrayskiy VII, Aitoff, Equirectangular, Gall-Peters, Hammer, Lambert cylindrical equal area, Mercator, Sinusoidal, Van der Grinten, Polar azimuthal equidistant, Mollweide < 1503026042 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503026182 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started to upload the book I mentioned to under https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Illustrations_to_J%C3%A1nos_Arany%27s_ballads_by_Mih%C3%A1ly_Zichy < 1503026229 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will upload the rest in a few days, I already have all the prepared cropped images on my hard drive < 1503026467 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503026519 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503026537 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it you who mentioned the base 256 MIX with a "NUME" instruction? Then describe its working < 1503026597 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1503026620 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503026681 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 QUIT :Client Quit < 1503026710 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503026848 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: First I'd have to describe what the CHAR instruction does. If the magnitude of rA is less than 10**10, then it puts the decimal digits as characters into the magnitude of rAX as normal. < 1503027008 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the magnitude is bigger than that, then it encodes the magnitude in some unambiguous way where the first character is always a letter from A to I inclusive or S to Z inclusive and the other nine characters are always letters from A to Z or digits from 0 to 9, sets the overflow flag. < 1503027009 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added a section "MIX256" into the "MIX (Knuth)" article in esolang wiki, so you can write the descriptions in there. < 1503027034 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The exact mapping would have to be defined in the spec. < 1503027208 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, it may be the best if in the extended CHAR output, the first character is always S to Z inclusive. (Then you can punch negatives by subtracting 20 from that character.) < 1503027297 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1503027393 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The NUME instruction would then check what byte 2 in rA is. If it's a number or a number with overbar or a space, then it works then same way as NUM. If it's a letter, then it adds 20 to that character if it's between B to I inclusive, mapping those to S to Z inclusive, and maps any spaces in the following characters to zeros, then it undoes the tr < 1503027393 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ansformation of CHAR. If the characters don't form a possible output from CHAR, then it sets the magnitude of rA to an undefined value. < 1503027415 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case, NUME doesn't affect rX, the sign of rA, or the overflow toggle. < 1503027512 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the loader format and loader program has to be adjusted so that when it loads a word from its char representation, it uses the NUME instruction, and also makes sure to set the sign to negative if the first character is B to Z. < 1503027609 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The NUME instruction can also be supported on machines where the byte range is 100 or 64, but in that case it can do exactly the same as NUM. This way programs written in assembly can be portable. < 1503027711 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The assembler has to be adjusted too so it can emit the loader format. < 1503027752 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the whole thing is designed so you need minimal changes in the programs. < 1503027774 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could fix my assembler to treat NUME the same as NUM, if that can help anyone, I suppose (it doesn't support MIX256 anyways though, and only MIX; but it could be supported to support MIX256 too perhaps if anyone will want to do that) < 1503027808 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't think that's a good idea. Didn't you say your assembler supports an output format that is byte size independent? < 1503027825 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making NUME a synonym of NUM in that case would break programs if you load the byte size independent assembled program. < 1503027872 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you are right actually < 1503027874 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the assembler knows that the byte size is at most 100, then yes, then it could assemble NUME as NUM. < 1503027903 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if the byte size is more than 100, then it must not do that, because the two instructions definitely can't be equivalent, so they can't have the same representation. < 1503027906 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although currently it does support only up to 100. I have fixed it to support 64 too now, so now it can output a deck for 64, 100, or independent. < 1503027935 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I agree with you if it is going to support MIX256 in independent mode, then NUME can't be used obviously. < 1503028002 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be used, you'd just get a program that only works on a computer that supports the NUME instruction. That's no problem, a base 64 or base 100 machine can support that too. It's like when you put any other extended instruction to your program. < 1503028035 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I suppose that is another possibility too < 1503028250 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically you could probably also write a loader that checks for the byte size of the machine and uses NUME only if the byte size is large, but it's not really worth < 1503028385 0 :wob_jonas!b03f180a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.10 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1503028387 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be more complicated to implement < 1503028405 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503028596 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503028685 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1503029433 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MIX (Knuth)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52862&oldid=52815 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+693) 10MIX256 < 1503030046 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:201414]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52863 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+571) 10I think the implementation of 2014 based on that of 2017 is not quite right < 1503030178 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1503030194 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello i'm back from the k-line, did i miss much < 1503030228 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depend what you wanted to look at I suppose; you could try to read the logs. < 1503030287 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you say something i needed to see zoo38 < 1503030292 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoo < 1503030297 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 < 1503030371 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote nothing addressed to you, but you can still try to read it to see if any of it interests you; maybe it does or maybe not. < 1503030506 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like what i missed was actual on-topic discussion < 1503030524 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one random day that esolangs come up as a topic and i'm gone :P < 1503030742 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503030745 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503030790 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you have a reply you can write it now, then. < 1503030929 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: we could make BF harder by just having it decrement the nth cell once before executing the nth instruction (wrapping back to the first nonzero cell if all of the following cells are zero) < 1503032143 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503032203 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@34-136-165-209.tsia.static.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503032755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@34-136-165-209.tsia.static.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1503034580 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503034955 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fccbrizjnyjxryos QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1503035176 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1503035245 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503035306 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503035825 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503035870 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1503036206 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1503036758 0 :zseri!5e86c99a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.134.201.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503036895 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503037318 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503037880 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1503038268 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1503039539 0 :zseri!5e86c99a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.134.201.154 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1503039756 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1503039938 0 :zseri!5e86c99a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.134.201.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503040740 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503041255 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1503041300 0 :zseri!5e86c99a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.134.201.154 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1503043068 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1503043120 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :concept: BF where every instruction is increased by a randomized but predictable amount modulo 95 per instruction < 1503043175 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and then it is salted and hashed, the same thing happens again, ad infinitum until you get bored and program in Malbolge < 1503043282 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about an esolang that helps me not suck at frontend dev. < 1503043322 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode, Elm's pretty esoteric < 1503043366 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. < 1503045799 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503046648 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1503049244 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1503049717 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1503049924 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503050043 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503052242 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503052497 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503052509 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503053119 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503054002 0 :Antoxyde!~Antoxyde@AAnnecy-654-1-74-189.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1503055171 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26ze72an2h4vq1xn.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1503055409 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503055478 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503055860 0 :zseri!5e86c99a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.134.201.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503056048 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503057258 0 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1503059292 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SHIVERING CHICKEN < 1503059489 0 :zseri!5e86c99a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.134.201.154 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1503060203 0 :impomatic!~digital_w@host86-186-214-55.range86-186.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1503060259 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: lunch < 1503060354 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503060596 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1503063563 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1503064834 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503067161 0 :zseri!5e86c99a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.134.201.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503067491 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503067961 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1503067964 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1503068299 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1846@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503068580 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1503068597 0 :zseri!5e86c99a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.134.201.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1503071173 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503071427 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1503071912 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1503072032 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1503072053 0 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1503072079 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gj zseri you started a trend < 1503072092 0 :zseri!5e86c99a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.134.201.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one? < 1503072109 0 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one? < 1503072111 0 :zseri!5e86c99a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.134.201.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :saying 'hi'? < 1503072116 0 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1503072187 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1503072197 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1503072538 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, I love how easily I could transition from my faulty UTF8 library to Lua 5.3's UTF8 library. < 1503072546 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't have to change a single bit of code! < 1503072564 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still mad how £ isn't in pure ASCII, though. < 1503072577 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1846@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: just use # instead hth < 1503072589 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, the "pound sign." < 1503072604 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1846@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or GBP < 1503072604 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: my WIP mindscrew interpreter now supports UTF-8 encoding anyway < 1503072620 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :it handles them as single characters using their codepoints < 1503072646 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :the downside being is that it now requires Lua 5.3 to run < 1503072678 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1846@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a bad idea? how will you input or output binary files or any files that are not utf-8 encoded then? < 1503072916 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What what I read in article about mindscrew, I am not sure why it should support UTF-8 < 1503072931 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it seem better not to < 1503073564 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think? < 1503073591 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, I'm gonna keep it in as an option anyway < 1503073596 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think it should default to on or off? < 1503073624 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1846@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Off [with her head!] < 1503073631 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1503073647 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Off, I should think < 1503073715 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also has a customizable EOF (the default being no change). < 1503073724 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1503073727 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the idea of being able to set flags via custom instructions, too. < 1503073801 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that could also help (although another way can be just having separate instructions for dealing with UTF-8 input and output, than the normal 8-bit I/O instructions) < 1503073855 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooooooooh. < 1503073872 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :,. `' < 1503073880 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :` for UTF8 input, ' for UTF8 output < 1503073882 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1503073986 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1503074044 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, `' would probably be better used for inputting and outputting entire lines of text (it could also be used to interpret UTF8 that way). < 1503074177 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503074201 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1503074219 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :How should it act when calling a non-existent procedure? < 1503074362 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1503074390 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503074422 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1846@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.70 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1503074443 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it should do nothing in that case < 1503074519 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about if a user attempts to input more than one character? < 1503074603 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reads the first one, and then afterward it can read the second one, and so on, I suppose? < 1503074634 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh. < 1503074753 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I might remove UTF support altogether then. < 1503074811 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about attempting to output a negative value? < 1503074832 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1503074846 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only use the low 8-bits, I should think < 1503074860 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So that -1 becomes 255, -2 becomes 254, etc) < 1503074886 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do nothing for non-existent procedure? i've gotten to the age where I would a appreciate a useful error message for something like that < 1503074903 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why we have flags. :P < 1503074927 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's still the issue of which one should be default, though.) < 1503074933 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :flags: the poor man's exception < 1503074996 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anything, I might add a breakpoint system with !. < 1503075063 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1503075066 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. breakpoints built into the language? absurd! < 1503075111 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i guess "exit immediately and dump state" is not a terrible instruction to have in a feature-rich esolang < 1503075238 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's what I meant :P < 1503075269 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, my cat program works wonders with the new iostack system (zzo38's idea of reading the first one, then afterwards reading the second one). < 1503075293 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for comparison, ! was the exit instruction for Spiral, but i had breakpoints as a separate feature of the IDE I wrote for it. < 1503075323 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"iostack"? i thought he was just describing the typical input buffer... < 1503075349 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I meant something more like "ioqueue" < 1503075357 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, it's an input buffer < 1503075385 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1503075406 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :should it be part of the esolang's spec itself, I wonder? < 1503075409 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be pretty cool. < 1503075439 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you like, but it's a common enough way of handling input that you needn't go into great detail about it < 1503075482 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just add one line for it in the structure section. < 1503075495 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe in implementation details. < 1503075616 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mindscrew14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52864&oldid=52849 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+200) 10 < 1503075967 0 :kuluma!~kvirc@85-76-151-141-nat.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1503076038 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i don't quite understand why your example programs contain ] if it's a no-op < 1503076043 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1503076054 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm...you can still jump to it, just not from it < 1503076192 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1503076238 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the moment, my interpreter is lazy - it only detects mismatched brackets if it tries to jump to a non-existent matching ] < 1503076290 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means you can have more ] than necessary and nothing bad will happen < 1503076361 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more [ than necessary as long as they never get run or if run never cause a jump < 1503076846 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1503076852 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :so +[[[[[ works < 1503076857 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :waot < 1503076866 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1503077144 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, nice: < 1503077146 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Zbz"!Uijt!jt!b!wfstjpo!pg!dbu!xijdi!jodsfnfout!fbdi!dibsbdufs!cz!pof/" < 1503077164 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I created a version of cat that increments each char by one. < 1503077255 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might create b`s (the inverse of the aforementioned "dbu") to decrement them. < 1503077561 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:ObCode14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52865 5* 03StellatedHexahedron 5* (+1396) 10proposed completeness proof < 1503077805 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :proposed: Encrypted ObCode. The interpreter would expect binary - it would hash the binary with SHA-8192, de-binarize it, and then interpret the hash. < 1503078097 0 :impomatic!~digital_w@host86-186-214-55.range86-186.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1503078570 0 :kuluma!~kvirc@85-76-151-141-nat.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1503079014 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1503079017 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahahahahhaa < 1503079030 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bannon fired lol < 1503079031 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concept: If a set of integers can be thought of as a map from an integer to an existence value (boolean), and one integer can be thought of as a map from a binary place value (integer) to a bit (boolean), then an integer can be stored as a set...a recursive set that contains itself if the binary place value corresponding to its own value is 1. < 1503079039 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. the integer 1 contains itself. < 1503079059 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, maybe not)... < 1503079096 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so the integer 2 is 2^1, yes? That means that the integer 2 contains the integer 1, which contains 0, the empty set. < 1503079100 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :But 3 contains both 2 and 1. < 1503079137 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 contains, er, ...wait. < 1503079142 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 contains 1 and 0. < 1503079149 0 :impomatic!~digital_w@host86-186-214-55.range86-186.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1503079153 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi \oren\ and impomatic. < 1503079189 0 :impomatic!~digital_w@host86-186-214-55.range86-186.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi rdococ < 1503079283 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concept: storing an arbitrary integer in the instruction pointer. the interpreter would read the instruction at ip % #instructions (where #instructions is the number of instructions), so you could perform integer arithmetic on the ip to get and set the value. < 1503079307 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. say the program has 23 instructions. to add 1 to the value, you'd type "ip = ip + 23", since the program wraps around. < 1503079416 0 :impomatic!~digital_w@host86-186-214-55.range86-186.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit like a relative jump? < 1503079435 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bulan14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52866&oldid=46720 5* 03Rdococ 5* (-925) 10...er...I'm going to secretly delete this terrible Lua derivative of mine... < 1503079454 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but the jump ends up with the same instruction modulo the number of instructions. < 1503079515 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd be able to store arbitrary values in the ip without messing up the program's control flow, basically. < 1503079663 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1503079788 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bot < 1503079788 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1503080261 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.avclub.com/article/steve-bannon-leaving-white-house-spend-more-time-s-259642 < 1503080409 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, I'm bored. < 1503080914 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rdococ < 1503080915 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ was thought to be from Budapest, then Mars, but he is actually in Airstrip One. Thanks to boily he is approaching permanent boredom & mapoledom. He is a relative of `words. < 1503080941 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: have you heard of the boring company? < 1503081088 0 :impomatic!~digital_w@host86-186-214-55.range86-186.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is looking for info about Core War in the 1960s and 1970s. < 1503081146 0 :impomatic!~digital_w@host86-186-214-55.range86-186.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google didn't turn up anything apart from the few articles I already had :-( < 1503081197 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: sounds like me < 1503081231 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google "the boring company" < 1503081233 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.boringcompany.com/ < 1503081311 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :note also that this gives the phrase "being bored to death" a whole new meaning. < 1503081355 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1503081369 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really wish I could stumble upon a new concept right about now. < 1503081516 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.linkedin.com/company/a-brand-new-concept <-- not a very original name if you ask me < 1503081578 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, what would happen if I threw C and first-class continuations into a blender? < 1503081668 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :longjmp < 1503081718 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, C already has been blended with first-class continuations. :c < 1503081744 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it'd be longjmp that copied the entire stack or something < 1503081786 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of creating a language that secretly worked in CPS, but didn't look like it did, to "pretend" there's a call stack to reify. < 1503082042 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing like a stack there would be is the scope, and that might not even be necessary. < 1503082609 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust kiseki < < 1503082609 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.kiseki: points -45.00, score 0.00, rank 46/47 (-45) < 1503082689 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :SMETANA To Infinity! joust? < 1503082822 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest nyuroki2 https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/67c57bb9732ff6493347dd022bae6c5ad1912209.bf < 1503082826 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points 16.48, score 42.77, rank 2/47 < 1503082908 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1503082921 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1503083263 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1503083362 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest nyuroki2 https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/7e0b728b0228ee0e4ac4f2dfc98b2d04ad5f7d17.bf < 1503083365 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points 15.29, score 40.77, rank 2/47 < 1503083406 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest nyuroki2 https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/0df6ec653b90d70647abe27dc773925678971df9.bf < 1503083407 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points 14.57, score 39.26, rank 3/47 < 1503083525 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest nyuroki2 https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/3433ff3fd457ca72fc0177810cf4750b578f012c.bf < 1503083529 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points 10.95, score 31.48, rank 7/47 < 1503083893 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Lymia < 1503083901 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did all that gpl drama with bukkit shake out in the end < 1503083928 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDK. I wasn't around to see it. :D < 1503083949 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame, that was top-grade drama < 1503084016 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how mojang never did implement the modding api < 1503084203 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Lazy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52867&oldid=34320 5* 03HereToAnnoy 5* (+210) 10 < 1503084209 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would take effort. < 1503084365 0 :kuluma!~kvirc@85-76-151-141-nat.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1503084919 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points 18.33, score 46.89, rank 1/47 < 1503084969 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust nyuroki < < 1503084969 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki: points -45.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (-44) < 1503084986 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points 19.00, score 48.23, rank 2/47 (--) < 1503085176 0 :kuluma|2!~kvirc@85-76-164-97-nat.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1503085330 0 :kuluma!~kvirc@85-76-151-141-nat.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1503085366 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the idea of a language where you could access and modify the call stack. < 1503085374 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth. < 1503085379 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally forth. < 1503085462 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it... < 1503085507 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, what about this: < 1503085510 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :that shouldn't stop you from implementing one though. < 1503085513 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know how Lua has a C API? < 1503085513 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are fun. < 1503085519 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh-huh. < 1503085525 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about: an esolang with an itself API. < 1503085534 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you just grasping at straws. < 1503085541 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda. < 1503085556 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :go do useful work for a while, weird shit pops up while you do it. < 1503085589 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have useful work to do. < 1503085602 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503085626 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can barely implement a language; one-character esolangs like mindscrew are a special case. < 1503085643 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?d=1462716999241&mkt=de-DE&setlang=en-US&w=xEsMxqoa0KJSwMsTh3p_8w2qryykfDvB < 1503085751 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1503085842 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( a queue w/ a peek operation is equivalent to a tape ) < 1503085864 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1503086001 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: What if you had a call queue rather than a call stack? < 1503086031 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea. experiment. < 1503086041 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd go from depth-first to breadth-first. < 1503086045 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw. < 1503086064 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would the breadth-first calls be evaluated then? < 1503086096 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd think it'd look something like the actor model. < 1503086109 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1503086110 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1503086276 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503086315 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points 18.00, score 45.87, rank 2/47 (--) < 1503086326 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd try creating a language where everything is a set, but that already probably exists < 1503086842 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :setl, yup. < 1503086866 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because these things exist doesn't mean you can't still do stuff. < 1503086932 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1503086941 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess... although pairs are looking kind of nice right now < 1503086949 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuples, baybe. < 1503086965 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuples are fun. go look up Linda. < 1503087003 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't find anything related to tuples with "Linda" < 1503087019 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_(coordination_language) < 1503087023 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, all you really need is the pairs. you can do tuples with pairs. (3, (2, 4)) < 1503087028 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuple_space < 1503087038 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://software-carpentry.org/blog/2011/03/tuple-spaces-or-good-ideas-dont-always-win.html < 1503087081 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, pairs < 1503087107 0 :augur!~augur@198-27-215-123.static.sonic.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503087165 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say sets but idk how I'd implement pairs with it. ik {{a}, {a, b}} enables you to determine which order they're in, but how do you reach the members of a set in the first place - it's not like they're key-value pairs < 1503087174 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points 16.45, score 42.05, rank 2/47 (--) < 1503087349 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah JOIN :#esoteric < 1503087376 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503087383 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points -5.76, score 14.38, rank 41/47 (-39) < 1503087434 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points 9.29, score 29.86, rank 7/47 (+34) < 1503087746 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concept: an encryption form similar to those we have now, but more easily reversible < 1503087755 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be usable for compression < 1503087758 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points 19.05, score 48.28, rank 2/47 (+5) < 1503087790 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't every joust have a playing field? < 1503088218 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points 19.05, score 48.28, rank 2/47 (--) < 1503088412 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: what about a lang where every number is a fraction? < 1503088443 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :...literally one of the well-known esolangs. < 1503088448 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than storing 1.5, you'd store 3 / 2 < 1503088453 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, which one is it this time < 1503088459 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractran. < 1503088463 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Kvikkalkul all of the number is less than 1 < 1503088464 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it < 1503088464 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1503088477 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, I just want an idea I can claim as my own < 1503088485 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nobody can help me because it'd be their idea then < 1503088492 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just do fun stuff. < 1503088507 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what? < 1503088558 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. forget about being 'original' and just... build the thing that makes you excited? < 1503088579 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing makes me excited < 1503088585 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a pill for that. < 1503088595 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a pill for everything < 1503088825 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: remember my "everything is an integer" idea? < 1503088834 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm. < 1503088841 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what if sets were stored as binary data, but could be modified like integers? < 1503088854 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, integers (and everything else) is binary data anyway... < 1503088879 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :flesh it out a little. < 1503088891 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? the basic premise is there... < 1503088903 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean like syntax, or...? < 1503088926 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have the words "store sets as binary data" written down. show me how you'd store example sets. < 1503088930 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :how you'd manipulate them. < 1503088932 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points 19.67, score 49.17, rank 2/47 (--) < 1503088936 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sweats < 1503088945 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking about ideas is easy, implementing them is hard. < 1503089001 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :each object could (at least to the perspective of the programmer and language itself) be stored as 1) one byte representing the type of the object, 2) one byte representing the size of the object in bytes, and 3) the data itself < 1503089042 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :...maybe? I don't know... < 1503089049 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :told you I'm bad at this < 1503089072 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if we take the other route, and store integers as sets? < 1503089080 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sound like a very insecure person who needs to stop taking input from people like me. < 1503089097 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should jump off a cliff, I don't know < 1503089126 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, bungee jumping is always fun. < 1503089131 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to shut up before people start getting angry at me again. < 1503089166 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1915@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503089269 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep thinking I'm creative, when I'm not. I'm not a "special" person like people say I am. I'm just an idiot at an old laptop. < 1503089295 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :self-deprecation is usually the worst route to take. we're all just doing this for fun. < 1503089312 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, well, it's the only route I ever seem to be able to take < 1503089313 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1915@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.21 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: maybe you're special but have to find what you're special in? < 1503089326 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need something to work on. < 1503089339 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I didn't know nothing counted as a thing I could be special in. < 1503089345 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode, like what? < 1503089357 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :some project that you want to wake up and work on every day. < 1503089374 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh please, I get bored of every project I try to start after five minutes < 1503089375 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :from personal experience, if I don't have that, I'm a wreck. < 1503089398 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1915@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.21 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: well, I just completed one. scanning an old book. < 1503089405 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :ayyyy. < 1503089405 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1915@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.21 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope that counts. < 1503089408 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does. < 1503089443 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there something the high-level end of language design hasn't reified yet? < 1503089461 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: another thing you should do is stop trying to be original when there's a lot you haven't explored. < 1503089474 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead, focus on enriching yourself with different ideas. < 1503089481 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1503089502 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :start with something that seems appealing to you. for example, I was obsessed with forths for a long while, so I implemented a couple. < 1503089512 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :they sucked, but it was fun, and stack-based things are fun and easy to work on. < 1503089522 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? all that will happen is sucky stuff < 1503089524 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seemed to like simple languages like brainfuck. < 1503089538 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but it gets you to dream of what you could do with what you learned. < 1503089560 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :life is all about projects. working on them, taking a break from them, thinking about them, completing them, giving them up. < 1503089561 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in my experience < 1503089579 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :without them, we are workers without material. < 1503089594 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a worker who can't work even with material < 1503089606 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :now the first thing you need to do is stop with the defeatism. < 1503089617 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1503089627 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's good for angsty school kids but if you want to develop as a person, dropping it at your first convenience is good for you. < 1503089645 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're all just dudes faffing about on computers. < 1503089655 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course schools kids are going to be angsty, they're forced to be at school < 1503089697 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503089721 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the things I've seen you do is realize that something's been done before and immediately get discouraged. < 1503089731 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help it < 1503089739 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should not be your response. what should be your response is "oh wow, well-trodden ground. let's go exploring." < 1503089748 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just feels like I'm copying other people < 1503089754 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :we all are. in some fashion or another. < 1503089760 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoulders of giants and all that. < 1503089782 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... I was thinking about a language whose programs are secretly written in CPS < 1503089800 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :so go forward on that. < 1503089808 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :so every instruction would be of the form "name a b c k", where k is the continuation < 1503089809 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it a secret that the programs written in CPS? Nevertheless, you can ty. < 1503089814 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503089831 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503089833 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I really don't think you're helping. < 1503089859 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :regardless of what any of us say or do, it's your project at the end of the day. < 1503089935 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points 20.10, score 51.37, rank 1/47 (+1) < 1503090494 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still not sure how a call queue could evaluate anything. < 1503090535 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :....Hey... CPS has the effect of turning a complicated expression inside out, yes? < 1503091138 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, rather than, say, "(3 * x) + 2", you'd go "*(3, x, +(2))"? < 1503091154 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :or +(_, 2) or something < 1503091770 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you look like you're building s-expressions. < 1503091905 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points -21.48, score 4.98, rank 45/47 (-44) < 1503091981 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: breadth-first call queues could be used like this: 3 / 2 (4 * (- 1)) < 1503092030 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points 20.10, score 51.37, rank 1/47 (+44) < 1503092030 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe with a variable r or something < 1503092776 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1503092805 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1503092821 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... this is just beginning to look like normal expressions with weird parentheses < 1503092824 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode, what do you think? < 1503092829 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like s-expressions. < 1503092840 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :s-expressions? < 1503092844 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1503092854 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry. < 1503092859 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-expression < 1503092864 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I'm just surprised is all. < 1503092869 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I just looked that up < 1503092875 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I'm dumb. < 1503092937 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503092941 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not dumb. you've just never heard of them before. < 1503093008 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :...eh, true. < 1503093016 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :...which is also not false! :P < 1503093028 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1915@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.21 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1503093028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :788) the scene: it is a warm summer's day in scotland, although one obscured by cloud and the fact that it is september < 1503093056 0 :xav737!63e79825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.231.152.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1503093065 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1915@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.21 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1503093079 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1503093124 0 :xav737!63e79825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.231.152.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then < 1503093157 0 :xav737!63e79825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.231.152.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing happening? < 1503093176 0 :xav737!63e79825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.231.152.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kthen < 1503093189 0 :xav737!63e79825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.231.152.37 QUIT :Client Quit < 1503093201 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1503093308 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503093802 0 :zseri!5e86c99a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.134.201.154 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1503093969 0 :kuluma|2!~kvirc@85-76-164-97-nat.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1503096692 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points 21.26, score 55.04, rank 1/47 (--) < 1503096840 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Swapper14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52868&oldid=43971 5* 03Ehulinsky 5* (+2437) 10added output and pseudo-operators < 1503096888 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26ze72an2h4vq1xn.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1503097091 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Swapper14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52869&oldid=52868 5* 03Ehulinsky 5* (+15) 10Add self-modifying < 1503097205 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1503097692 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1503097921 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to make this map projection http://mathworld.wolfram.com/AzimuthalEquidistantProjection.html but the meridians at +180 and -180 longitude appear as straight lines (and the parts of longitudes that are close to it appear as straight lines near the equator; maybe it is a problem having to do with precision). Do you know how to fix this please? < 1503098200 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it supposed to do that? These straight lines are crossing all of the other meridians, so, doesn't looks so good? < 1503098334 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1503098583 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1503098886 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503099084 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1503099282 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1503099303 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it is supposed to do that. < 1503099393 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that I thought of it, I suppose it probably is supposed to do that, because it is going to be a discontinuity (since it is on the other side of the world, so the line would be at the top instead of the right side; the straight line is due to the discontinuity) < 1503099839 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1503099976 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1503099981 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/3:oerjan//Your omnipheasant back principal swatty arrant "Darth Ept" oerjan the indecisive is a hazy expert in minor compaction. Also a Glaneep who disses Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance. His ark-nemesis is Noah. He twice punned without noticing it. \ `sled//`sled // \ < 1503099989 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1503099990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/3:zomgmodules//ZOMGMODULES is both a small blonde veterinarian and just modules over the ring of ZOMGs. \ bicyclic monoid//The bicyclic monoid is the free monoid generated by two wheels of a bicycle, quotiented by the restriction that the bicycle itself is equal to the identity. \ claustrophobia//Claustrophobia thought the wisdom database was get < 1503099992 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1503099992 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/3:ting too crowded, so left. < 1503100017 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what's a darth ept? < 1503100017 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: at a speed of over eight hundred thousand things to save the city, and the skyline is dominated by billboards, ads like that burn my biscuits, pal, or go to an early gravy! < 1503100053 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1503100234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm still +R < 1503100292 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. < 1503100301 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it dire? < 1503100414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily. well the logs perviously spoke of child porn. < 1503100423 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decided not to fix that misspelling. < 1503100474 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1503100483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so freenode seems to have put everyone(?) on +R as default mode. < 1503100490 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s/twice/thrice/ < 1503100492 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan//Your omnipheasant back principal swatty arrant "Darth Ept" oerjan the indecisive is a hazy expert in minor compaction. Also a Glaneep who disses Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance. His ark-nemesis is Noah. He thrice punned without noticing it. < 1503100501 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i noticed that. < 1503100514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :before pressing enter. < 1503100532 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the typing itself was subconscious. < 1503100582 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the subconscious spoke. < 1503100598 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“+R - Enables use of the recover and clear commands.” ← what does it mean? < 1503100618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's for channels, you should look at user modes. < 1503100619 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not what it says? Use command "HELP UMODE" it explain its meaning < 1503100636 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or actually, that's for op flags. < 1503100659 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe. < 1503100689 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki2: points 12.24, score 35.23, rank 4/47 (-3)