< 1504137776 0 :nchambers!~nchambers@learnprogramming/staff/nchambers QUIT :Changing host < 1504137776 0 :nchambers!~nchambers@learnprogramming/utility-bot/pb2cpy JOIN :#esoteric < 1504137788 0 :nchambers!~nchambers@learnprogramming/utility-bot/pb2cpy QUIT :Changing host < 1504137788 0 :nchambers!~nchambers@learnprogramming/staff/nchambers JOIN :#esoteric < 1504138371 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1504138494 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIA! < 1504138592 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504138799 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1504138956 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you ever wish you had more time? < 1504139061 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where were you during the blizzard of 2007? < 1504139273 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more or less, about yes. < 1504139279 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a blizzard in 2007? < 1504139390 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I remember it, there was quite a lot of snow in 2008, something around 18’. < 1504139458 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay that one then < 1504139468 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one with the huge blackout < 1504139613 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008 the winter that never endedt < 1504139695 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ JOIN :#esoteric < 1504139724 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :were there mounds and heaps and piles of snow on your end? < 1504139762 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. it might have iced over one night < 1504139775 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is not the frozen north < 1504139785 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did it affect you? < 1504139789 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1504139836 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh... probably a little bit more shoveling? I was still living with my parents at that time, and I was on shovel duty. < 1504139879 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it when it gets “Real Winter”. -25 °C is perfect; your moustache freezes over. < 1504140257 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1504140278 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :although right now is just perfect right ~^^~ < 1504140282 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1504140282 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 302300Z 23009KT 15SM FEW150 22/13 A2987 RMK AC1 AC TR SLP116 DENSITY ALT 1000FT < 1504140289 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@mtear KOAK < 1504140289 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 302253Z 28011KT 10SM CLR 20/13 A2988 RMK AO2 SLP116 T02000133 < 1504140563 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's colder in KOAK??? < 1504140794 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was an odd day weather-wise in London today. Yesterday highs were +28 °C, today +14 °C. < 1504140806 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1504140806 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 302320Z AUTO 26004KT 9999 NCD 13/10 Q1015 < 1504140893 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :when is the last time you played a video game forrilz boily < 1504140911 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with you. < 1504141251 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ JOIN :#esoteric < 1504141266 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1504141507 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1504141513 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:@//@ is an OS made out of only the finest vapour. \ emoticon//emoticon: ¯\(°​_o)/¯ \ grace period//The grace period was invented by Taneb to give him more time to invent the Oxford comma. \ nooga//no. \ os//Os is the accusative plural of us. Alsø a village in Denmark. Ånd a Norwegian spirit. < 1504141709 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1504142934 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i dont get much time for gaming these days either < 1504143933 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sets out some spinach artichoke dip for the channel
< 1504144087 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION brings artisanal tortilla chips
< 1504144908 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1504145006 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are your thoughts on naked yoga? < 1504145192 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is such a thing? < 1504145218 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, of course it is such a thing. All the Things Are. Praise be unto their Inventor. < 1504145249 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... don't know? is it like, regular yoga with all the yoga positions you can expect, but you're naked? < 1504147439 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1504147646 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: ACCEPTABLE CHICKEN < 1504148501 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 QUIT :Quit: See ya! o/ < 1504149381 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1504152481 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1504152945 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1504153272 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1504153360 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504154126 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504154262 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1504154931 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1504158552 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1504159234 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1504159242 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02grcecoin 06evencoin 13beltocoin 04illarlecoin 07quarecoin 08stecoin 09gtvecoin 02glycoin 06serthesnecoin 13sheddycoin 04trofesostecoin 07tnntleuercoin 08kolmcoin 09colabiculecoin 02interbcoin 06lifyingcoin 13placoin 04hebagcoin 07herishcoin 08larcoin < 1504159498 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should extend HackEgo to make an ICO website. < 1504159518 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then suckers will send it money for no reason. < 1504159794 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504162786 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1504163573 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.9 < 1504163874 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1504164514 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504165407 0 :mroman!a0556846@gateway/web/freenode/ip.160.85.104.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1504165414 0 :mroman!a0556846@gateway/web/freenode/ip.160.85.104.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin < 1504166206 0 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin < 1504166417 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504166705 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1504167610 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504168582 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1504168907 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@128.93.83.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1504169537 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1504170060 0 :kurolox!~Kurolox@81.red-88-4-114.dynamicip.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504170639 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504170927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1504171386 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1504171856 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1504171910 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504172717 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1504172768 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1504173327 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Skype on win32 deliberately obfuscate its interface by hiding the "Quit Skype" command from the main menu, and by making the window close button silently keep skype running and visible only in the notification area? I think it does, they can't just be that stupid by accident. < 1504173552 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1504173745 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Next time I write a makefile (or similar) for deploying/installing a program on another server through ssh, I should explicitly specify the remote username in it, rather than rely on the defaults in my ssh config. This hasn't caused problems yet, but it's probably better to be cautious. < 1504173818 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ssh/ssh and\/or rsync/ < 1504175106 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504175911 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504176020 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1504176129 0 :mroman!a0556846@gateway/web/freenode/ip.160.85.104.70 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1504178621 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504178895 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1504179398 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504179603 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504179852 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1504182022 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: VOYAGE CHICKEN < 1504183322 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1504184024 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great. I'm trying to override line break opportunities in a word document where word's automatic algorithm chooses them wrong. But calibri doesn't have the 0x2011 or 0x2060 characters in it (even though the first one should look identical to a hyphen and the second should display nothing and have no width) so all I can use is 0xFEFF. < 1504184102 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't they actually put characters into a fucking modern high-quality font when they're also easy to draw and implement? < 1504184162 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although maybe these fonts are too old for those characters or something. < 1504184271 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@fr1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calibri's design began in 2002 and U+2011 dates from Unicode 1.1, i.e. the year 1993 < 1504184284 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1504184354 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1504184366 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: hmm. how about 0x2060? < 1504184386 0 :grumble!~grumble@freenode/staff/grumble QUIT :Quit: told < 1504184388 0 :rumble!~grumble@freenode/staff/grumble JOIN :#esoteric < 1504184393 0 :rumble!?@? NICK :grumble < 1504184474 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: isn't there a soft hyphen in latin-1 somewhere? < 1504184479 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SOFT HYPHEN < 1504184481 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​­ < 1504184490 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that doesn't look like a soft hyphen to me < 1504184494 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@fr1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Apparently Unicode 3.2, which came out in 2002, so it might not have been around when Calibri was started but it was definitely there before it was finished. < 1504184498 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+00AD Cf . SOFT HYPHEN < 1504184501 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ​­ < 1504184502 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0020 SPACE] [U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] [U+00AD SOFT HYPHEN] < 1504184510 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should be latin-1, I think < 1504184516 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, huh, it is a soft hyphen, as I discovered trying and failing to select it < 1504184519 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ok < 1504184525 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, U+0000 to U+00FF is Latin-1 < 1504184541 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: is there a reason you can't use U+00AD? < 1504184585 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that has the wrong semantics. U+00AD is normaly invisible, and becomes a hyphen before a line break when you break the line there. that's for providing a hyphenation opportunity inside a word < 1504184588 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@fr1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(U+00AD is equally old as U+2011) < 1504184601 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oh, I thought that's what you were trying to do < 1504184606 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you trying to do instead? < 1504184624 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, I'm massively confused as to why that soft hyphen is visible in my client, semantically it shouldn't be) < 1504184629 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I need a hyphen that's always present but where I don't want to allow a line break after it < 1504184641 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1504184641 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1504184654 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that this is a Word document, I believe there's some sort of "don't break here" formatting you can apply < 1504184658 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you sue a ZWNBSP for that? < 1504184660 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :use* < 1504184660 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the soft hyphen can be visible in terminals or other programs that don't use a proper text-rendering engine < 1504184668 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: this is a GUI client though < 1504184675 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it seems to be treating the soft hyphen as zero pixels wide < 1504184678 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that I can see it < 1504184692 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: GUI might not necessarily mean it's written properly < 1504184701 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc­def < 1504184713 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, the soft hyphen is only visible if there are no characters after it < 1504184741 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an interesting choice but a defensible one, I think < 1504184741 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the font might have a glyph for it that the text engine should render only when the hyphen is visible (when there's a line-break there, or when you show invisible characters explicitly for proof-reading a text) < 1504184753 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah < 1504184772 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that makes sense, the end of a text is always a line-break utility (though in some contexts it might not be treated as such) < 1504184814 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1504184827 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/utility/opportunity/ < 1504185668 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHY LF is a pretty silly combination as it is < 1504185673 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that even mean? < 1504185903 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it might be silly, but you can't really "ban" a character combination for general text. you just have to treat it in some fallback way < 1504185926 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: right < 1504185937 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might get such a combination when you try to abbreviate some text for a shorter field or something < 1504185938 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally Unicode would be normalized, with all combinations being meaningful < 1504185945 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as it isn't, you need some semantics for meaningless sequences like that < 1504185963 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, most programs do sort of handle all combinations in some way < 1504187275 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1504188254 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1504188613 0 :kurolox!~Kurolox@81.red-88-4-114.dynamicip.rima-tde.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1504189027 0 :zseri!5e86d6e4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.134.214.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1504189459 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504189701 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1504190098 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1504190281 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1504193410 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1504196195 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1504197729 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504198753 0 :mroman!b2c5e14b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.225.75 JOIN :#esoteric < 1504198763 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1504198775 0 :mroman!b2c5e14b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.225.75 PRIVMSG #esoteric :waddup < 1504200874 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@128.93.83.11 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1504201095 0 :zseri!5e86d6e4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.134.214.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1504202379 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1504202390 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh! why is the call failing < 1504202394 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the undocumented stuff < 1504202401 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably a good reason, but I don't know why < 1504202754 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :facepalm < 1504202758 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn you, gnu! < 1504202759 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1504202829 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a command that by default takes any number of arguments that it will exec, you shouldn't use gnu's stupid getopt that will reorder the command line. you need a getopt that only parses options before the first argument. < 1504203370 0 :ATMunn!?@? NICK :nnuMTA < 1504203588 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1504203687 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1504203764 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I was trying to write a simple command that I run under my X session and changes to another virtual terminal. but it seems that this is not possible directly, because you only have permission for that ioctl if a real tty console is your controlling terminal, and it seems when icewm-session starts icewm, it calls setsid and so any process I start < 1504203765 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : from icewm can't have the original tty as the control terminal. < 1504203778 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504203806 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but X11 itself can change to a virtual console if I press a key. is there some X11 call I can do from an X11 program to ask X11 to do that? < 1504203815 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know anything about X11 programming < 1504204046 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504204170 0 :mroman!b2c5e14b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.225.75 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jm < 1504204174 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1504204195 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1504204511 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1504204567 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504204611 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1504204813 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1504205061 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1504205310 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504205380 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1504205555 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-71-242-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1504205565 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably just use a workaround by starting a program on another virtual console withou X that will do this when I ask < 1504206366 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@188.189.77.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1504206421 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1504207001 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, workaround done as two very simple shell scripts < 1504207078 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did the workaround < 1504207211 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@188.189.77.142 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1504207942 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@188.189.77.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1504208413 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1504208421 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1504208430 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1504208431 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1504208572 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bot < 1504208573 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1504209151 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@188.189.77.142 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1504210265 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1504210744 0 :mroman!b2c5e14b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.225.75 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1504210865 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1504211428 0 :nnuMTA!?@? NICK :ATMunn < 1504211919 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1504211946 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1504213674 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504213925 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1504214429 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504215272 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1504216476 0 :zseri!5e86d6e4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.134.214.228 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1504216616 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504217457 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1504217472 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504217507 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1504218031 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1504218249 0 :^arcade_droid!?@? NICK :aarcade_droid < 1504218639 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03JanMakuwe 5* 10New user account < 1504218662 0 :augur_!~augur@104.236.181.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1504218790 0 :aarcade_droid!?@? NICK :^arcade_droid < 1504218821 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1504219333 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52978&oldid=52975 5* 03JanMakuwe 5* (+226) 10/* Introductions */ < 1504219380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52979&oldid=52978 5* 03JanMakuwe 5* (-9) 10/* Introductions */ < 1504219564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1504219696 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? font < 1504219698 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ https://lifthrasiir.github.io/unison/sample.png , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz < 1504219734 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparenlty they fixed the new youtube to make it actually fill the whole screen with content < 1504219810 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I should make my fonts available as bitmap font files < 1504219878 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have BDF and ttf, but not PCF... < 1504219906 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1504219920 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xen.firefly.nu/up/fonts/ actually converts the fonts to BDF, I forgot about that < 1504220091 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xen.firefly.nu/up/2017-08-31_231007.png hmm. < 1504220329 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Welcome to the international shrub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! | http://esolangs.org | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://www.dropbox.com/s/fyhqyvy3i8oh25m/wisdom.pdf < 1504220352 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1504221226 0 :MrBismuth!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:c801:d7f:77e1:92be JOIN :#esoteric < 1504221395 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@104-50-90-48.lightspeed.brhmal.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1504221923 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.160 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1504222323 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504222553 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1504222685 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1504222936 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you do is, you have a huge underground lake that you heat by repeatedly detonation hydrogen bombs, then get steam power from that heat < 1504222970 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like it works < 1504223037 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1504223100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( is this KSP ) < 1504223474 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, just a funny idea i had for doing fusion power with current tech < 1504223493 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydrogen bombs are technically fusion power < 1504223510 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need a way to extract energy from them < 1504223808 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think the explosion of hydrogen bomb would produce pressure wave that would not be absobed by water < 1504223813 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, perhaps a large plenum filled with methane or ammonia gas would work