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02:02:42 <\oren\> At least SOMEBODY made a good fighter combat game for PC even if it wasn't bandai namco
02:05:23 <alercah> why would it have been bandai namco?
02:06:11 <\oren\> alercah: they make ace combat series
02:06:56 <\oren\> but the only title for PC is "ace combat assault horizon" which is total crap
02:07:33 <\oren\> http://store.steampowered.com/app/242130/
02:08:18 <\oren\> but apparently somebody made a proper recreation of the classic ace combat games
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03:23:23 <zzo38> Why does bash believe that the only files I will want to open with Firefox are HTML files? It isn't; sometimes I want to load PDF files, SVG files, and sometimes even plain text files (mainly for printing), too.
03:24:38 <shachaf> Maybe because Firefox is often called a "web browser".
03:24:59 <zzo38> Yes, but I also use it for PDF (since I don't have another program for PDF)
03:25:16 <shachaf> Perhaps the authors of the computer code that things you only want to open HTML files have never used Firefox.
03:25:33 <shachaf> They only made their decision based on the one-line description of the program.
03:25:57 <zzo38> I could probably alter it easily enough, although still there it is.
03:26:30 <shachaf> The people who make it should learn better; you can write to them such notice
03:27:19 <alercah> it's not bash, it's whoever writes the default completions
03:27:21 <zzo38> I don't know who made that part of the code
03:27:37 <alercah> bash completions are customizable
03:27:51 <zzo38> alercah: Yes, but I thought they were written by the same people
03:28:04 <alercah> I try not to assume that sort of thing
03:28:08 <alercah> it's a separate package on debian
03:28:41 <zzo38> O, OK, I did not know that
03:37:11 <zzo38> Do you know if it is possible to make bash completions for some commands to be able to use SQL queries for the completions? (I have a shell script where this would be useful)
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03:38:41 <alercah> I believe you can call arbitrary binaries
03:38:56 <shachaf> Yes, it's just a bash function.
03:42:43 <zzo38> Specifically the following SQL query is what I use: select moz_bookmarks.title from moz_places, moz_bookmarks on moz_places.id = moz_bookmarks.fk where not hidden; I use it with another shell script which makes a different SQL query on the same database in order to load Firefox with the named bookmark as the loaded URL. (I name all of my bookmarks with single words making them easily to type)
03:51:14 <shachaf> zzo38: What database software do you like, other than sqlite?
03:54:05 <zzo38> SQLite is all I use for databases
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03:56:29 <alercah> what about for distributed systems?
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03:57:03 <shachaf> Are there any good scalable open-source databases that aren't key-value stores?
03:57:45 <zzo38> I don't know, but you could write a driver to use them with SQLite4 perhaps, if you want to use a key-value store as a SQL database.
03:59:09 <zzo38> (I think SQLite4 does support shard keys, in case you need that feature.)
04:01:27 <zzo38> The documentation describes how that is working. Any columns which are the keys are stored as part of the key using such an encoding so that a binary sort will sort them in the correct order. The table number is also stored at the beginning of the key, using a variable integer encoding.
04:06:24 <shachaf> zzo38: I was reading about how cockroachdb was implementing SQL recently, https://www.cockroachlabs.com/blog/sql-in-cockroachdb-mapping-table-data-to-key-value-storage/
04:06:30 <shachaf> I don't like the name of that company.
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04:06:37 <shachaf> I'll do my best not to use their product because of the name.
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04:15:22 <zzo38> It is different than what SQLite4 does.
04:20:13 <zzo38> (I also think if you hate it due to their name, that is not a very good reason to avoid using it. However, you may have other reasons to use or don't use it, which can be OK.)
04:21:41 <shachaf> No, that's pretty much the main reason.
04:22:08 <shachaf> I hope they nearly fail and are forced by their investors to chang their name.
04:24:15 <zzo38> Well, it is your choice to use or don't, but in my opinion it is not a very good reason. (I also don't hate their name, but even if so, isn't the very good reason, unless perhaps you are also using another program with the same name and makes it confusing.)
04:24:54 <shachaf> No, I just don't like cockroaches.
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04:29:01 <zzo38> This is the SQLite4 description http://sqlite.org/src4/doc/trunk/www/index.wiki
04:33:31 <shachaf> Have you designed another database query language?
04:34:10 <zzo38> I have not designed another one; I think SQL is OK (there are some things that are difficult with it, but mostly it is OK)
04:34:53 <shachaf> SQL is not so bad. But I think it's possible to do much better probably.
04:35:18 <zzo38> Maybe you are correct; I don't know
04:35:52 <shachaf> Of course it depends on the application.
04:39:51 <zzo38> SQL seems good for querying SQL databases and also CSV and similar stuff, although to query something such as a RDF graph will be difference
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09:44:49 <kurolox> Hey fizzie, I'm not sure if you're around here. do you know any way of setting up the locale inside umlbox?
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10:18:30 <fizzie> kurolox: The same way you'd do it outside, pretty much. The kernel isn't really involved. On HackEgo we call essentially "umlbox env LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 X" to run X.
10:19:14 <kurolox> so env changes are permanent inside the sandbox?
10:20:42 <fizzie> I'm not sure what "permanent" means this context. It works the same way as always, children inherit the environment from the parent.
10:21:02 <kurolox> Well, I mean this. https://i.imgur.com/DIRXDjL.png
10:21:35 <kurolox> because the locale between umlbox and the host are quite different.
10:21:36 <fizzie> No, we just wrap every execution inside env.
10:21:54 <fizzie> That was the "X" part of "env LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 X".
10:22:17 <fizzie> As in, when someone says `foo, we run env LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 foo. (Omitting some details here.)
10:22:17 <kurolox> oh, okay. Now I understand.
10:22:36 <kurolox> For some reason I was thinking that you were trying to run a X session with umlbox, not that X was "insert whatever here"
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10:23:18 <fizzie> I was thinking of saying <command> instead, but was wary of '<'s and '>'s.
10:23:50 <kurolox> okay, thanks for the help.
10:27:56 <fizzie> There's a more "direct" way of setting environment in umlbox in that the init binary's configuration file format has an 'env' command, but I don't think the stock umlbox script ever uses that.
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10:56:59 <b_jonas> zzo38: that's not bash's beleif, that's the belief of debian who wrote all those crazy custom completion scripts. I start by disabling those.
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15:49:48 <lambdabot> https://wiki.haskell.org/Lambdabot
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16:42:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[MIX (Knuth)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53091&oldid=53085 * B jonas * (+1764)
16:47:59 <HackEgo> boredome:The Boredome is a dangerous place swarming with woodpeckers, dentists, and bookworms. \ wisdome:The Wisdome is the place where all of HackBot's wisdom is stored and forced to fight to the death for the freedom of being printed out when you type `wisdom. Strictly speaking, it should be called the "Wissphere".
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17:14:38 <b_jonas> hmm, what was the last olist?
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17:16:46 <HackEgo> olist 1099: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
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17:48:50 <HackEgo> olist is update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ootslatest.html
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21:32:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Javagrid]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53092&oldid=53033 * Stefan-hering * (+4050)
21:34:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Javagrid]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53093&oldid=53092 * Stefan-hering * (+0)
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22:37:53 <\oren\> "Russia is a big country. Russia helps the United States run the International Space Station. Other countries also help with the space station. But only Russian spacecraft carry people to it right now." -- NASA official website
22:38:32 <ais523> \oren\: using that language? :-D
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23:06:57 <\oren\> Apparently a WaPo writer was disciplined for criticizing jeff bezos
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23:56:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[MIX (Knuth)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53094&oldid=53091 * B jonas * (-1) /* Instruction opcodes */