< 1507076687 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1507077359 0 :impomatic!~digital_w@host81-136-106-105.range81-136.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1507078605 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1507078625 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1507079310 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1507079722 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1 < 1507080100 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18e6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.230 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1507080238 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1507080576 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1507081145 0 :nchambers!~nchambers@learnprogramming/staff/nchambers PART #esoteric : < 1507081554 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1507082255 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1507083021 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1507084127 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: BLESSED CHICKEN < 1507084716 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1507084969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? forth < 1507084970 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1507084973 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fourth < 1507084974 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication. < 1507084981 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg fourth < 1507084990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10501:2017-03-24 ` mv wisdom/fo{,u}rth; slwd fourth\\ wisdom//s,rt,urt, < 1507085008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1507085020 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would i do that. < 1507085039 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg forth < 1507085047 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10501:2017-03-24 ` mv wisdom/fo{,u}rth; slwd fourth\\ wisdom//s,rt,urt, \ 5407:2015-06-05 slashlearn forth/Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication. < 1507085084 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what's going on with that slwd? < 1507085100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks pretty broken. < 1507085175 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see. < 1507085192 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/fo{u,}rth < 1507085194 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1507085197 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? forth < 1507085198 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication. < 1507085234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fourth wisdom < 1507085235 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.wisdoms other the all upon builds wisdom fourth The < 1507085259 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the one i wanted to change. but i forgot to fix the mistake of moving `? forth < 1507086150 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 QUIT :Quit: sleep < 1507086542 0 :MrBismuth!~ArcMrBism@104-50-90-48.lightspeed.brhmal.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1507086706 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:506c:f696:363c:db86 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1507086772 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1507087005 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1507087731 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1507088181 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1 < 1507088535 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1507089594 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@unaffiliated/bowserinator QUIT :Quit: ZNC Sucks >_> < 1507092271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blessyou oerjan < 1507092272 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bless you, oerjan. Bloerjan. < 1507092293 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( but i wasn't sneezing ) < 1507092301 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gesoerjant < 1507092406 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blimey, oerjan. Bloerjan. < 1507092661 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning shachaf < 1507092675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning. < 1507092679 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to make that a portmanteau but there isn't a single common letter. < 1507092704 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'moerjan. < 1507094084 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`q king < 1507094085 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: q: not found < 1507094091 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 quote king < 1507094093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/178:14) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! \ 40) GregorR: are you talking about ehird's virginity or your soda beer? \ 73) Making a small shrine to Lawlabee in my basement is < 1507094095 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1507094109 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randquote king < 1507094110 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :975) Sgeo: That fact is so fun I can feel my pancreas kicking into overdrive. < 1507094635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1507094795 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The king of kic < 1507095718 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1507095948 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1507097149 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: HRII'FHALMA MNAHN'K'YARNAK NGAH NILGH'RI'BTHNKNYTH < 1507099989 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1507100227 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randquote \bking\b < 1507100228 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :516) king is something women are better at than men < 1507100235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 randquote \bking\b < 1507100237 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/0: < 1507100254 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 nur randquote \bking\b < 1507100256 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/0: < 1507100265 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1507100267 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 randquote '\bking\b' < 1507100270 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/3:1177) like good old time, with elbow and foot lengths of the king. man that must have sucked People would be always like "Hey king, can you drop by, I have stuff to measure" That's why they're called rulers, you know \ 239) However is probably better to have both queen/king and government in case < 1507100283 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet++ < 1507100287 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1507100288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/3: one does bad thing, the other side can argue to them \ 516) king is something women are better at than men \ 239) However is probably better to have both queen/king and government in case one does bad thing, the other side can argue to them \ 239) However is probably better to have both queen/king and government in ca < 1507100290 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1507100291 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/3:se one does bad thing, the other side can argue to them < 1507100327 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 quote '\bking\b' | shuf < 1507100328 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:1177) like good old time, with elbow and foot lengths of the king. man that must have sucked People would be always like "Hey king, can you drop by, I have stuff to measure" That's why they're called rulers, you know \ 516) king is something women are better at than men \ 239) However i < 1507100332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1507100333 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:s probably better to have both queen/king and government in case one does bad thing, the other side can argue to them < 1507100334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1507100759 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98e0:6f5:6dbc:7af6:e5ad:db69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1507100818 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98e0:6f5:3810:159c:5c0e:375 JOIN :#esoteric < 1507106290 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1507108601 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1507108636 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1507108913 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1507109242 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:850e:cb64:a27b:e104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1507111156 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53161&oldid=53156 5* 03Luke1337 5* (+362) 10/* Introductions */ < 1507111183 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aheui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53162&oldid=44965 5* 03Luke1337 5* (-95) 10removed a dead link < 1507113776 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1507116929 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1507117200 0 :lezsakdomi!~led@netacc-gpn-5-206-11.pool.telenor.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1507117543 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zd13ohwl5fbg43.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1507118385 0 :lezsakdomi!~led@netacc-gpn-5-206-11.pool.telenor.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1507118694 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? phasing < 1507118695 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phasing? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1507118695 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? phase < 1507118696 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phase? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1507120024 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SLIPSTREAM CHICKEN < 1507120617 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ln -svf allsets-2017-09-20.txt share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1507120619 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'share/mtg/allsets.txt' -> 'allsets-2017-09-20.txt' < 1507120712 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name walk the < 1507120712 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walk the Aeons \ 4UU \ Sorcery \ Buyback--Sacrifice three Islands. (You may sacrifice three Islands in addition to any other costs as you cast this spell. If you do, put this card into your hand as it resolves.) \ Target player takes an extra turn after this one. \ TSP-R \ \ Walk the Plank \ BB \ Sorcery \ Destroy target non-Merfolk creature. \ XL < 1507120716 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name walk the plank < 1507120717 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walk the Plank \ BB \ Sorcery \ Destroy target non-Merfolk creature. \ XLN-U < 1507120799 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? xln < 1507120800 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xln? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1507120831 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google mtg xln < 1507120832 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://magic.wizards.com/en/products/ixalan < 1507120841 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that worked) < 1507120927 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's the latest released expert set. I'm testing with the latest to show that updating the local copy of the card database worked. < 1507121251 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep "^306\.4." share/mtg/rules.txt # I also updated the local copy of the comprehensive rules < 1507121252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :306.4. Previously, planeswalkers were subject to a “planeswalker uniqueness rule” that stopped a player from controlling two planeswalkers of the same planeswalker type. This rule has been removed and planeswalker cards printed before this change have received errata in the Oracle card reference to have the legendary supertype. Like other legen < 1507121311 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zd13ohwl5fbg43.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1507121338 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@2a02:748:a800:ca7:ea75:b12d:51:a5c3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1507121357 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@2a02:748:a800:ca7:ea75:b12d:51:a5c3 QUIT :Changing host < 1507121357 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@unaffiliated/bowserinator JOIN :#esoteric < 1507122122 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:850e:cb64:a27b:e104 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1507123508 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1507125631 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1507125815 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1507126632 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1507127007 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1507127905 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-181-202.w90-18.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1507127928 0 :Slereah!?@? NICK :Guest77438 < 1507128014 0 :Slereah__!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-4-236.w92-131.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1507128865 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1507129168 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1507129748 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1507130621 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1507130634 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`scheme < 1507130634 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Realms Befitting My Majesty < 1507130640 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 scheme < 1507130642 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:This World Belongs to Me \ Nothing Can Stop Me Now \ My Undead Horde Awakens \ Delight in the Hunt \ No One Will Hear Your Cries < 1507131217 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1507131513 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a46c74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1507133364 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1507134021 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1507134692 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1507136649 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1507137209 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1507140327 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a46c74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1507140346 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1507140702 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1507140826 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1507142190 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1507142191 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1507142300 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aheui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53163&oldid=53162 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+120) 10Use wayback < 1507143700 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1507143986 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1507145370 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1507145553 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1101 < 1507145554 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1101: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1507145681 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1507145893 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1507146042 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1507146537 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1507146961 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1507147893 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@unaffiliated/bowserinator QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1507148453 0 :augur!~augur@2600:380:847e:4104:d95d:4e6f:9936:7a16 JOIN :#esoteric < 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host closed the connection < 1507152251 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:1061:fc6d:8307:32a2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1507152251 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:1061:fc6d:8307:32a2 QUIT :Changing host < 1507152251 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1507152804 0 :SigmundYx!~quassel@197.1.9.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1507153899 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-73-70-83-124.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1507153968 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1507154084 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1507155103 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1507155118 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1507155232 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1507155302 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1507155594 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, ais < 1507155640 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so I read the M:tG Ixalan update bulletin. I was surprised that they're making a new phasing card. that's one of those mechanics that are too complicated rules-wise to be worth bringing back, like banding. < 1507155666 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it's in a supplementary set, those are allowed to be more complex < 1507155691 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, hmm, is it the first new phasing card since the phasing rules changed? < 1507155715 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that mechanic was phased out. < 1507155718 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, reprinting phasing card would seem entirely reasonable in a Masters set, and only slightly out of place in Commander or Conspiracy < 1507155725 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*reprinting a < 1507155733 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I expect creating a new one has similar considerations < 1507155764 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you mean it won't be in Modern? yes, that's a good point, but still. < 1507155777 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: right, nor in Standard < 1507155781 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only Legacy, Vintage and Commander < 1507155801 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's clearly the sort of card that was designed for multiplayer) < 1507155806 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name teferi's protection < 1507155807 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teferi's Protection \ 2W \ Instant \ Until your next turn, your life total can't change and you have protection from everything. All permanents you control phase out. (While they're phased out, they're treated as though they don't exist. They phase in before you untap during your untap step.) \ Exile Teferi's Protection. \ C17-R < 1507155834 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: reprinting is generally more easier to support than making entirely new cards < 1507155860 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one-shot phasing is probably the easiest sort to understand < 1507155886 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although this does apply to all sorts of permanents, increasing the chance of a confusing interaction < 1507156018 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't see why one-shot would be much easier to understand than phasing every turn < 1507156030 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that reminder text explains most of the relevant cases by itself, the most likely ones that aren't explained are to do when an aura and the enchanted permanent have two different controllers < 1507156055 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: because "X phases out" needs fewer definitions than "Phasing", the keyword < 1507156083 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of. < 1507156118 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the part that it happens at instant speed now. < 1507156133 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's more potential interactions with other spells. < 1507156140 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or with combat. < 1507156167 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1507156363 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, I also think that permanents becoming a copy of an object is too complicated rules-wise, and so is making permanents lose all abilities, yet Wizards still keep printing them (in Modern at rare). < 1507156397 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clone effects are popular enough that Wizards wants to make them work, I guess < 1507156421 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't too conceptually complex in the common case, you assume that the copy was printed as being identical to the copied card for as long as the copy effect lasts < 1507156430 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main issues come in special cases, like copying a DFC < 1507156442 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually the latter in uncommon too, and was in common in Lorwyn.) < 1507156487 0 :Lung868!~Lung@170.82.211.17 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1507156555 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but even among clone effects, which are difficult already, an already existing permanent temporarily becoming a copy is slightly more difficult than just making token copies or having a permanent etb as a copy and remaining a copy forever. < 1507156585 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, the main issues come in special cases, but there are lots of different types of special cases, and they come up in recent sets too. < 1507156621 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I must admit that they eliminated one special case entirely, namely the old rules for Primal Clay, which they replaced with simple to understand new rules. < 1507156624 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Retroactively. < 1507156715 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now Primal Clay and two other cards just set its own p/t and abilities, just like levelers; as opposed to setting the whole copiable values, like split cards, flip cards, double-faced cards, morph, do. < 1507157054 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1507157056 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that reminds me, a rules question. I have a Horned Turtle (vanilla) in play. Can I resolve Artificial Evolution on it in such a way as to replace all instances of Sliver with Wizard, then much later, Cytoshape that turtle to a Predatory Sliver to have it grant a bonus to all my Wizards? < 1507157138 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: that's just a layers question, isn't it? < 1507157152 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm fairly sure that copy applies before text change, so it should work < 1507157157 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm asking about current rules, even if I sometimes say "in play" instead of "on the battlefield") < 1507157185 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, not only that. I'm not sure if choosing Sliver is a valid choice at all if that word doesn't currently occur on the target object. < 1507157231 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-73-70-83-124.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1507157234 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name artificial evolution < 1507157234 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Artificial Evolution \ U \ Instant \ Change the text of target spell or permanent by replacing all instances of one creature type with another. The new creature type can't be Wall. (This effect lasts indefinitely.) \ ONS-R < 1507157249 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it's unclear from the wording, I assume there'd be a ruling on it < 1507157283 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :04/10/2004 Can target a card with no appropriate words on it, or even one with no words at all. < 1507157285 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, there's a ruling < 1507157302 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that only says "can target". it doesn't say what happens at resolution. < 1507157324 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it clearly isn't countered on resolution < 1507157324 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1507157335 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's no rule that says that effects aren't created just because they couldn't do anything < 1507157344 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I set the target, it won't check whether choices at resolution are valid or actions at resolution can be carried out < 1507157376 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it surely won't get *countered*, I only wonder if it's such that there's no valid choices so the action is ignored, or, in this case, the only valid choice is Turtle < 1507157413 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, but there are rules saying that in some case when I make choices at resolution, I can't choose ones that are impossible < 1507157431 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that applies for "you may" choices at least < 1507157441 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it's not about paying costs < 1507157454 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but two alternative non-pay actions < 1507157510 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's possible that that doesn't apply for this choice, and even more likely that I can choose Sliver even if it doesn't appear in the text of the card < 1507157558 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a comparable situation to casting "target permanent gets +1/+1" on a land; I'd expect that to work < 1507157562 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not sure if it's possible at the moment < 1507157571 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, there's a situation with Vehicles < 1507157578 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you can increase their stats before they're animated < 1507157590 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it's not impossible, I wonder if "one creature type" refers only to a creature type that appears in the text < 1507157615 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name gearshift ace < 1507157615 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gearshift Ace \ 1W \ Creature -- Dwarf Pilot \ 2/1 \ First strike \ Whenever Gearshift Ace crews a Vehicle, that Vehicle gains first strike until end of turn. \ KLD-U < 1507157654 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"crews" triggers when the creature is tapped, not when the crew ability resolves < 1507157662 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the Vehicle gainst first strike first < 1507157664 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then becomes a creature later on < 1507157681 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :granting first strike to an artifact doesn't make sense and yet the effect is still created < 1507157759 0 :SigmundYx!~quassel@197.1.9.211 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1507157782 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1507157783 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zdy7mxxujcar4d.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1507157807 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1507158262 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, card text is written very carefully so that when something grants p/t bonus/malus or first strike or trample to some other permanent, the text either explicitly requires a creature, or implicitly requires because it explicitly requires "blocking" in case of Glyph of Destruction. < 1507158440 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the reason M:tG normally disallows things like giving a land +1/+1 is not because it doesn't work but because it would confuse players < 1507158447 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1507158455 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing it to a Vehicle is less confusing because at least you expect those to turn into creatures at some point < 1507158623 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1507158650 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1507158963 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, and there are other edge cases, eg. if you use an external animator, then Chronatog Totem can give itself +3/+3 after the animator is cancelled < 1507159100 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or any number of creature like Stonewood Invoker could give itself p/t bonus in a way that's still resolved after it's turned to a noncreature by Soul Sculptor < 1507159143 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1931@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because when creatures give *themselves* p/t bonus or first strike or trample, then the text generally doesn't explicitly check that it's still a creature < 1507159378 0 :augur!~augur@108-233-87-134.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1507159465 0 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1507159662 0 :augur!~augur@108-233-87-134.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1507159721 0 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1507160953 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1507161042 0 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1507161213 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1507161297 0 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1507161411 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1507161553 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-gknpvzexrwludncr JOIN :#esoteric