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1510074830 0 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp JOIN :#esoteric < 1510075473 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Funge-9814]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53358&oldid=53317 5* 03Finianb1 5* (+0) 10/* Instructions */ < 1510075653 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1510075927 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1510075948 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zf6lkyy2wv3ajv.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1510076342 0 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1510076357 0 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp JOIN :#esoteric < 1510076735 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1510077611 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:1061:fc6d:8307:32a2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1510077611 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:1061:fc6d:8307:32a2 QUIT :Changing host < 1510077611 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1510079626 0 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They then live on sunlight and grass, until they are finally removed from existence. < 1510081745 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1510082457 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1510082885 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1510083022 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1510083275 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1510084032 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can a con eat other cons, int-e? < 1510085564 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1510085942 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1510086065 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to be careful with the vicious clothing cycle. Basically, some clothes get more comfortable the more I wear them, because washing with a rinse agent makes the cotton softer. But when I choose what clothes to wear, I often choose the more comfortable ones. So there's a positive feedback loop for wearing older clothes, which eventually get rui < 1510086065 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ned, without breaking in the newer clothes. < 1510086372 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric : do what hermit crabs do. Steal broken in clothes from someone slightly weaker than you < 1510086537 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: stealing clothes is not socially acceptible. the usual method is to buy clothes from people slightly *richer* from you, usually people notionally in the UK who just sell their warm winter clothes in the spring and sell their summer clothes in the autumn. < 1510086626 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Notially in the UK" means that every used clothes store that isn't selling clothes collected as charity is labeling them as "British used clothes" for the quality associated with that, just like how chocolate is labeled as "Belgian" or "Swiss" regardless of where it's made. < 1510087034 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The british are known for the quality of their used clothes? < 1510087102 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: they do know, since all non-charity-based used clothes stores started to label their clothes as UK < 1510087128 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody knows where the used clothes really come from, or where Belgian and Swiss chocolate really comes from, but now they're stuck with that label < 1510087258 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The charity shops have it easier, because all the big charities already use the names of big reputable organizations, and are now reputable as charities themselves too, namely the Red Cross charity, the Baptist charity org, the Maltese (as in Holy Order of Malta) charity org, and the Ecumenical charity org. < 1510087371 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why reputation plays a large part in the used clothes market, because unlike chocolate you get to try it before you buy it. < 1510087478 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's combine the two ideas and open a used chocolate market < 1510087524 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds great. Here in america we have rainbow foods which is a used food store < 1510087530 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: well sure, but there's so many shops you're unlikely to go in every one and try each garment sold in them < 1510087584 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I'm underestimating the density of used clothing shops in Britain < 1510087597 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: um, these stores aren't in Britain < 1510087602 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're here in Hungary < 1510087643 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course if the clothes really were British, that would imply that Britain doesn't have many used clothes stores, it just exports all those used clothes to here < 1510087668 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like how western europe exports used cars to Hungary, then Hungary exports them to southern europe, then southern europe exports them to africa < 1510087672 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something of that sorts < 1510087690 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought maybe the british had the attitude that every month deserves a fresh set of clothes < 1510087716 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: well that's what these used clothes stores imply < 1510087742 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they buy fresh clothes every season, and give away the old ones to be sold in Hungary < 1510087778 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, noblesse oblige < 1510087783 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the Swedish buy a new car every seven years, give away the seven year old cars to Hungary, who use them for seven more years, then give them away to Bulgaria, who then use them for seven more years, then give them away to central africa < 1510087819 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C.A.R. < 1510087821 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The British cars aren't exported to Hungary obviously, because they drive on the wrong side of the road.) < 1510087990 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hungarian drivers no longer use both sides of the road? < 1510088069 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: no longer. they switched to using only one side some time in the first world war or something < 1510088252 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one of the very few side effects of big wars: since almost all the existing infrastructure is exploded by nazi soldiers as they leave the country, you might as well retire old standards as you rebuild things. otherwise it's so hard to switch to a different standard in some things. < 1510088264 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1808@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/few side/few convenient side/ < 1510088460 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/wrong side/left side/ < 1510089231 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c83-254-186-251.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1510089255 0 :Vorpal!?@? 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Should punctuation be considered part of the word, or part of the whitespace? < 1510093834 0 :garit2!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: i would suggest not to do that. But if you really want, then you could select just 1 separation symbol. But even then you might find bad cases like 'apple tree "red fish" hammer', where people try to make a single word with quotes or other way to try to find escape characters.. < 1510093926 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :garit2: Do you mean that "I would suggest not to do that, even in an esoteric language", or "I would suggest not to do that in a non-esoteric language"? < 1510093971 0 :garit2!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely second, and even in first case - may be. I dont see any case where it might be good and many cases where it will cause troubles < 1510094114 0 :garit2!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you make something like a new brainfuck, hehe =) im not sure if you actually plan to use it anywnere < 1510094183 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :garit2: Okay. Well, I was considering different methods to pass function (well, continuation) arguments. < 1510094239 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... what do you think I should go for? I was thinking "by reference" so that functions could modify variables passed to them, but then what about arguments which aren't valid R-values (e.g. "3", or "a + 1")? < 1510094319 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make "3" mutable < 1510094385 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that in the "break mathematics and logic" kind of way? < 1510094408 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that just sounds kind of odd to me. < 1510094424 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell d < 1510094592 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskel allows you to let expressions be whatever you like such as "let 1+1 = 5 in 1+1" < 1510094617 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty odd, then. < 1510094622 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the benefit of consistency < 1510094647 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can uniformly pass expressions by reference < 1510094734 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: I had the idea that variables would basically be pointers, and you would have to dereference them to access their values. < 1510094811 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.G. "a = 3" assigns 3 to the variable 'a', but "a" isn't 3; "a" is just a reference/pointer to 3. So, to get the value of "a" (3 in this case), you would have to dereference it e.g. "@a" (meaning '[value] at a'). < 1510094814 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't you then just be passing everything by value? < 1510094861 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does @3 do? < 1510094875 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, passing "a" to a function would mean that the function parameter - let's say it was named "x", now holds "a". Meaning that "@x" is "a", and "@@x" is 3. < 1510094889 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :@3 would be the third object in memory, I would suppose. < 1510094889 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1510094958 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = a sets a to be its own address? < 1510094967 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think so. < 1510095035 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea is that "a = 3" is writing the value of 3 to a, while "@a" is getting the value at a. I might be completely wrong here, but I think it's basically an abstracted form of a memory address. < 1510095045 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1510095052 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1510095075 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I wasn't completely wrong, "a" could function as a memory address. "a = 3" would write 3 to that memory address, while "@a" would get the value stored there. < 1510095143 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have an anti @ to get the address of a value? < 1510095146 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's basically dynamic allocation. I think. < 1510095163 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: Nah. < 1510095259 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a = 3; @a = 4" would set the value of the third variable (since they're not *exactly* memory addresses, rather weird... references with pointer-like arithmetic) to 4. < 1510095277 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a + 1" would evaluate to the variable after "a". < 1510095294 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not its value, of course. That'd be @(a + 1).) < 1510095349 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1510095807 0 :garit2!~garit@unaffiliated/garit QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1510095929 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit JOIN :#esoteric < 1510096014 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1510096349 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, suppose all function arguments are mutable < 1510096477 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x){x = x + 1;} < 1510096511 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for(y = 1 to 3)f(1); < 1510096532 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would result in the source file reading < 1510096544 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for(y = 1 to 3)f(4); < 1510097121 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1510097595 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit I might get to go to singapore! < 1510097668 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\! woot! < 1510097673 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Singapore is nice! < 1510097676 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the food is amazing! < 1510097691 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the weather is horribly warm and hot and humid and sweaty, though... < 1510097729 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the botanical gardens are beautiful! < 1510097736 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the zoo is fun! < 1510097745 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the bird park is stupefying! < 1510097758 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the food is really good! < 1510097835 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they can grow bottle gourds