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00:14:07 <boily> fizziello. flip flap flop flup flep ♪
00:14:22 <lambdabot> CYQB 100000Z 01005KT 15SM FEW070 OVC180 M03/M07 A2984 RMK AC1CI8 AC TR SLP112
00:17:48 <fungot> boily: ignoring a validating structural editor, what other options are there :-)_ cube
00:18:09 <boily> fungot: FOUR DAYS ROTATIONS IN THE VALIDATING STRUCTURAL EDITOR.
00:18:09 <fungot> boily: unless it uses recursion a lot of
00:18:26 <boily> fungot: of course it recurses. how else can you achieve four days in one?
00:18:26 <fungot> boily: " this is imperative code" or " ooo" in the memory of the routine, to get to bed
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01:57:14 <zzo38> What is the best way to clean the computer display? I got a new one today, which works, but, it is dirty.
01:58:40 <zzo38> I think I have one of those somewhere
01:58:41 <quintopia> if that doesn't work, wet a cloth with windex and wipe it and then wipe it dry
01:58:58 <zzo38> (Unfortunately, I forgot where I put it)
02:04:22 <zzo38> I made this list of file formats that my Farbfeld Utilities programs supports so far http://fileformats.archiveteam.org/wiki/Farbfeld_Utilities (some of the formats are obscure) Anyone who is wanting to write any new public domain C program to read/write other picture file formats, to please to do so. Someone also can make a logo for this Farbfeld Utilities collection if they want to do so, please.
02:11:16 <zzo38> There is also a stuck pixel in my computer.
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02:22:51 <quintopia> you can't. i've never heard of a fix for that.
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03:02:45 <quintopia> the only downside of being supported by Bytemark is that they don't have a Hexham data centre. It would be appropriate :P
03:40:34 <pikhq> zzo38: TIL there's an iPhone-only PNG variant.
03:42:17 <pikhq> Some of those changes at least make some sense, but others are just weird.
03:44:36 <shachaf> Do you like chicken of the woods?
03:49:10 <pikhq> No, it's a fungus.
03:58:43 <zzo38> pikhq: Yes, and I don't know why, but, there is.
03:59:08 <zzo38> At least, reading such format is not so difficult to implement using existing PNG reader library, by adding a few extra codes.
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04:00:59 <zzo38> How many of the formats listed there have you heard of (or used) before?
04:04:27 <pikhq> I'd used 9, and heard of more.
04:05:21 <pikhq> BMP, GIF, JPEG, MacPaint, PBM, PNM, PNG, XBM, XPM.
04:06:26 <zzo38> Well, those are some of the more common ones, anyways, I suppose.
04:07:04 <pikhq> Yeah, those are basically the ones that are common in consumer or developer use, plus one that would be used by anyone that'd played around on old Macs.
04:09:29 <zzo38> Although most programs that support XPM seem to not support XPM2 format.
04:10:07 <pikhq> Which is odd, as that one seems easier to support.
04:10:18 <pikhq> Not *massively*, but easier.
04:10:54 <zzo38> Yes, it does seem a bit odd, to me, too
04:11:10 <pikhq> And trivial to support if you support XPM3.
04:11:17 <HackEgo> It would have been certainly so, but `8ball refused to coöperate.
04:11:19 <shachaf> I found it at Berkeley Bowl today.
04:11:24 <pikhq> shachaf: I don't think I've had chicken of the woods, actually.
04:11:51 <pikhq> Seems like it'd be tasty though.
04:12:03 <shachaf> It's certainly quite unusual for a mushroom.
04:14:16 <shachaf> "It is this, it is this that oppresses my soul, / When I think of my uncle's last words: / And my heart is like nothing so much as a bowl / Brimming over with quivering curds!
04:14:23 <shachaf> "It is this, it is this--" "We have had that before!" / The Bellman indignantly said. / And the Baker replied "Let me say it once more. / It is this, it is this that I dread!
04:15:32 <zzo38> Anyways, my own software does support all three XPM formats (both for reading and for writing), including monochrome, grey scale, colour overriding, and stippling (which isn't actually a feature of the file format (so any program that can read XPM will still read these files), but rather is a way to make the monochrome version of a picture using non-solid "colours").
04:18:57 <zzo38> Z-machine XZIP Picture Library format might be one of the most obscure file formats I have listed in there, because as far as I can tell, there is no other software that can read/write such format, and I have found only one file of that format (which was probably written using software that no longer exists).
04:29:09 <pikhq> Do you even know the *name* of the program that was supposed to implement it?
04:30:28 <pikhq> Well. That's a Z-machine thing. It might've been Infocom-internal, actually?
04:31:08 <zzo38> pikhq: No, I do not know the name of the program, either. Although yes, I do believe it probably was Infocom-internal program that was used to write that file.
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04:35:58 <zzo38> I do have some of Infocom's source codes, but none that implement that file format.
04:39:29 <zzo38> I think I have figured out a much shorter way to make Minsky machine with Crement, although I am unsure if it is correct. Each register needs two instructions, and then increment becomes five instructions and decrement becomes seven instructions. I have implemented each register as: -D 0 initial_value +J 0 1
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10:53:24 <int-e> zzo38: I expected 9 instructions for decrement (two reads, one for the conditional jump, and one for the actual decrement)
11:52:16 <lambdabot> EGLL 101120Z 06007KT 4600 -RA SCT004 BKN010 BKN015 01/00 Q0972 TEMPO 1000 SN BKN003
11:53:06 <fizzie> There's SNOW on the roofs of some cars parked outside! (It's exceptional.)
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17:59:29 <zzo38> int-e: I don't know if what I did is correct or not though
18:00:38 <zzo38> (Because, it is untested, and I might not have look at it carefully enough)
18:01:59 <zzo38> But, this is what I have: For increment, it is: +A R @+2 +A R+1 @+1 +J R 1 +D @+1 0 +D R 0 For decrement, it is: +A R @+2 +A R+1 @+1 +J R 1 -J next_if_zero 0 +A R R-1 +A R+1 @+1 +J R 1
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20:37:55 <esowiki> [[S.I.L.O.S]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53558&oldid=49801 * Wheatwizard * (+0) Fixed link formatting
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21:03:26 <Soni> is there some sort of bfzip or something that produces higher compression rates than gzip and implements brainfuck (or something) under the hood?
21:09:05 <choco_chuck> the rar format has a VM in it: https://github.com/taviso/rarvmtools
21:14:13 <zzo38> ZPAQ also can include instructions
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21:43:34 <esowiki> [[S.I.L.O.S]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53559&oldid=53558 * Quintopia * (-170) This article needs some serious reformatting but here's a start
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21:48:53 <quintopia> what caused all that snow in the normally-snow-free parts of the northeast atlantic?
21:49:11 <quintopia> is it related to the unusual snow we had here last weekend?
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22:16:41 <fizzie> I don't know how weather works, really. There was a storm they were talking about earlier, but I'm not sure if that's related.
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