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01:11:27 <oerjan> <int-e> must be a weird corner of the language model. <-- i think there was some Glass in there.
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01:33:13 <oerjan> <fizzie> I'm sure there's some way that makes sense. <-- presumably they didn't want their spaces to break.
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01:45:54 <fizzie> oerjan: Half of them might still break, though.
01:46:04 <fizzie> (I'm guessing something about whitespace coalescing.)
01:49:38 <oerjan> fizzie: i think you cannot have a break between an nbsp and an ordinary space, so you only need half
01:49:57 <oerjan> (well, i'm also half guessing)
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02:59:36 <oerjan> today's mezzacotta has a certain elegance.
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11:27:12 <b_jonas> int-e: but there are. there's one from just a week ago, I think.
11:27:20 <HackEgo> 1318) <ais523> b_jonas: hmm, it's fairly surprising that you can make a coherent esolang whose primary feature is that it wasn't written by Donald Knuth
11:29:03 <b_jonas> \oren\: that's usually how people quote multiple spaces when targetting HTML. in older browsers, adding non-breaking spaces was practically the only consistent way to write multiple spaces, unless you put the whole thing in pre tags.
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12:28:05 <esowiki> [[Tampio]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53827 * B jonas * (+274) Created page with "'''Tampio''' is a programming language whose syntax tries to resemble Finnish language. == Links == [https://github.com/fergusq/tampio Github page with description of lang..."
12:28:27 <esowiki> [[Perligata]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53828&oldid=8683 * B jonas * (+24)
12:29:02 <esowiki> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53829&oldid=53822 * B jonas * (+13)
12:29:35 <b_jonas> Why does the esowiki main page says "the complete list of languages"? That's an outright lie.
12:34:20 <fizzie> Should it be "the best-effort list of languages"?
12:34:37 <b_jonas> fizzie: maybe "our list of languages"
12:35:34 <fizzie> I did some statistics the other year on how many languages are in Category:Languages, Language list or both.
12:35:44 <fizzie> (Can't really count how many are on neither.)
12:37:50 <b_jonas> fizzie: what did you get? I just added one to the category when it was already in the list
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13:12:50 <HackEgo> 574) <Phantom_Hoover> http://i.imgur.com/dosYw.png <Phantom_Hoover> WELCOME TO FUCKING STEELROMANCED \ 1160) <zzo38> I think it is allowed to be both sane and insane simultaneously.
13:12:51 <fizzie> I don't remember the results. Probably the majority were on both, but there are quite many exceptions. I'll check again some day.
13:13:23 <int-e> fungot: wish me luck?
13:13:23 <fungot> int-e: actually siperia was located in tampere, where one of them
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13:13:59 <fizzie> Don't take geography lessons from fungot.
13:13:59 <fungot> fizzie: i just thought it did. :p
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16:04:35 <HackEgo> #esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ https://lifthrasiir.github.io/unison/sample.png , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz , fizzie's font https://github.com/fis/rfk86/tree/master/web/font , FireFly's font
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18:26:45 <int-e> b_jonas: are you searching for the font of wisdom?
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18:36:13 <esowiki> [[User talk:Moon]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53830&oldid=53089 * HereToAnnoy * (-395)
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19:27:59 <wob_jonas> I'm making tea from teabags labeled "Fresh Orange". What the heck is "Fresh" supposed to mean in that?
19:28:44 <ais523> wob_jonas: it's one of the words that people put on food to make it sound better
19:29:02 <ais523> I guess it has a meaning, technically? but I don't think advertisers care about what it is, most of the time
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20:19:01 <wob_jonas> there should be one of those that has Turing-complete loops
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20:44:32 <\oren\> FIFTY YEARS OF BUGGY CODE DUE TO THIS
20:44:37 <\oren\> "Important semantic issues remained unresolved in the 1967 manual, for example the actual meaning of the LOGAND and LOGOR operators. The compiler in 1967 distinguished between & | used in `truth-value' contexts and ordinary value contexts; in the first context they were handled as sequential tests, in the second as bit operations. The manual doesn't talk about this."
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20:54:53 <wob_jonas> matlab has some horrible crazy semantic stuff like that
20:55:09 <wob_jonas> one for how it interprets those operators, and one for which arrays count as true
21:02:24 <\oren\> the predecessor to C, and this fact caused the bitwise operator precedence fiasco
21:03:08 <wob_jonas> \oren\: yeah, but matlab is more horrible
21:03:59 <\oren\> also how to troll haskell speakers
21:04:24 <\oren\> "Haskell is, much like perl, unreadable to those who don't write it."
21:05:25 <\oren\> it isn't, but this statement came up in a discussion
21:06:15 <HackEgo> Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell'
21:07:17 <\oren\> also, apparently I can't even find a precedence table for haskell
21:09:05 <wob_jonas> \oren\: it's hard to make a complete one, because just like prolog, libraries can define new operators with the precedence of their choice
21:09:14 <wob_jonas> but I think I saw a table with the operators in the standard somewhere
21:15:06 <wob_jonas> \oren\: ah yes, here: https://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/haskellch4.html#x10-820004.4.2
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21:43:13 <esowiki> [[User talk:HereToAnnoy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53831&oldid=53197 * HereToAnnoy * (-123) Blanked the page
21:44:28 <esowiki> [[User:HereToAnnoy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53832&oldid=53753 * HereToAnnoy * (+32)
21:45:29 <\oren\> What I don't understand is why haskell only supports imperative syntax for IO
21:49:59 <esowiki> [[TwoFiftyFive]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53833&oldid=53214 * HereToAnnoy * (+102) /* Cat program (EOF=FF) */ derp
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21:58:58 <fizzie> Why doesn't anyone make 20"-ish 1920x1440 4:3 monitors?
21:59:04 <fizzie> I have a very nice 25" 2560x1440 screen as a "primary" monitor, paired with an old 20" 1600x1200 screen that makes a hiss when turned on and also turns off randomly every now and then. Sooner or later it's going to give up the ghost entirely, and then I'd like to replace it with a same-height same-DPI 4:3 monitor.
21:59:19 <fizzie> Except I can't, because there are none.
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22:17:29 <esowiki> [[TwoFiftyFive]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53834&oldid=53833 * HereToAnnoy * (+789)
22:23:50 <esowiki> [[Talk:TwoFiftyFive]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53835&oldid=53230 * HereToAnnoy * (+315)
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22:32:50 <esowiki> [[TwoFiftyFive]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53836&oldid=53834 * HereToAnnoy * (-120)
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22:36:38 <esowiki> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53837&oldid=53829 * HereToAnnoy * (+10) /* N */ added language "Neg"
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23:19:11 <esowiki> [[Arrows]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53838&oldid=53202 * HereToAnnoy * (+1404) Started adding actual functionality to the language. Should've done this a long time ago.
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23:32:44 <HackEgo> 1/3:cookie//Hackego wants a cookie! *hangs* \ substructural typing//Not to be confused with structural subtyping. \ computer//Computer is a language where numbers are strings of the characters '1' and '0'. \ time cube//EARTH HAS 4 CORNER SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY TIME CUBE IN ONLY 24 HOUR ROTATION. 4 CORNER DAYS, CUBES 4 QUAD EARTH. Bible A Lie &
23:32:50 <HackEgo> 2/3:Word Is Lies. Navel Connects 4 Corner 4s. God Is Born Of A Mother - She Left Belly B. Signature. Your dirty lying teachers use only the midnight to midnight 1 day (ignoring 3 other days) Time to not foul (already wrong) bible time. Lie that corrupts earth you educated stupid fools. \ cocoa//A is a village in Norway. The BBC invented it by not
23:32:53 <HackEgo> 3/3: understanding things on top of letters.
23:33:24 <boily> `` wc -c wisdom/time\ cube
23:33:34 <boily> `` wc -c wisdom/oerjan
23:33:40 <boily> `` wc -c wisdom/boily
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23:55:19 <\oren\> the kemlin is in moskwo, the capital of urssia
23:57:23 <fizzie> `` find wisdom/ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 wc -c | sort -nr | grep -v total | head -n 5
23:57:25 <HackEgo> 604 wisdom/ance \ 568 wisdom/o \ 557 wisdom/zarutian \ 477 wisdom/brilliant \ 438 wisdom/font
23:57:48 <fizzie> Those are unarguably too long.