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01:28:47 <wob_jonas> "<boily> mouse works if I unplug it then plug it again." => I've had such a problem with an old keyboard and a new motherboard of whose keyboard controller was apparently not properly tested for AT plug keyboards with the AT to PS/2 passive converter. Every time the motherboard lost power (but not when it was just turned off and on properly), I had
01:28:47 <wob_jonas> to unplug and replug the keyboard.
01:30:12 <wob_jonas> It also had a problem with the parallel port printer, but a different one: if I booted straight to linux, the printer wouldn't work. I had to boot to DOS, which somehow magically initialized the printer controller or something, which you noticed from the printer beeping and its online led turning on, then boot to linux from that (with loadlin or gr
01:30:41 <wob_jonas> That was a long ago, at that time I considered booting linux with loadlin normal, so this wasn't a big problem.
01:31:10 <wob_jonas> I just had a linux entry at the dos startup menu, and also a command to boot linux later.
01:36:26 <boily> wellob_jonas. I'm running on not-exactly-new hardware, but I don't believe that'd be the cause?
01:37:20 <boily> I wouldn't be surprised at all that it's some kind of dubious upgrade that broke everything. I'm running on Ubuntu 18.04 on ~twelve year old stuff...
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01:47:46 <wob_jonas> boily: sure, it's probably not related
01:49:19 * boily glares at his machine
01:49:37 <ski> hm, my brother had a computer where one had to unplug and replug the (PS/2) keyboard during start-up, to be able to use it during GRUB
01:50:16 <ski> (the USB keyboard wouldn't work at all, there, while it worked fine after the OS had booted)
01:50:42 <wob_jonas> "<int-e> I still haven't trained my fingers to use 'poweroff'." Oh, so that's how it works? I was wondering why "halt" wasn't working, because it only halted the OS, but didn't turn off the motherboard, since the upgrade. Which was strange because it used to work.
01:51:43 <ski> (otoh, if one booted windows, the PS/2 keyboard would cause the system to hog, if one used modifier keys (on either keyboard). so one'd unplug the PS/2 one after boot there)
01:58:27 <fizzie> I have an external USB hard disk enclosure, and one of the computers here will get stuck forever in boot if it's plugged in. Have to remember to unplug it to reboot. Works fine otherwise. Computers.
01:59:19 <wob_jonas> fizzie: the endless loop isn't just because it's trying to boot from the potential hard disk in the enclosure and failing, right?
02:00:27 <fizzie> Right. It won't go to the BIOS menu either.
02:00:47 <fizzie> I presume it's trying to figure out what it is, as part of some sort of hardware enumeration step.
02:07:42 <esowiki> [[User:Conor O'Brien]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54012&oldid=53454 * Conor O'Brien * (+60) /* Languages I have implemented */
02:09:00 <wob_jonas> fizzie: is it possible that it's a hardware fault in the enclosure, such as caused by some damage to the electronics, like two wires are shorted by something that got into it by accident?
02:09:33 <esowiki> [[Alarm Clock Radio/implementation.rb]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=54013 * Conor O'Brien * (+4064) Created page with "This is an implementation of [[Alarm Clock Radio]] in Ruby by [[User:Conor O'Brien]]. == Implementation == #!/usr/bin/ruby require 'optparse' # alarm clock radio # beca..."
02:10:27 <wob_jonas> I had a case when a serial port male socket with a metal frame wasn't attached to the back of the chasis properly, it was just loose on a cable from the motherboard, and the metal frame was touching something on the motherboard, causing the machine to not start to come at life at all. luckily it didn't seem to cause any permanent damage.
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11:45:00 <boily> aaaaaurgh. didn't have to unplug my mouse, but now the fan is crazy and I can't get it to spin like a normal fan.
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11:51:02 <int-e> not a fan of fanatic fans, eh?
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11:54:09 * boily gold plates his mapole and royally thwacks int-e. 1.00 FP.
11:54:47 <boily> int-ello. it's noisy, but the temp remains around 50 °C so the hardware isn't melting away...
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12:14:38 <int-e> boily: so, have you tried switching it off and on again?
12:15:06 * int-e quietly removes the battered int-e decoy and replaces it with a new one.
12:16:19 <HackEgo> “Only sane adverb” boily is monetizing a brotherhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine. He is also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Groan Man Eating Chicken, a METARologist, seriously lacking in the f-word department, a thwack doctor, a Quintopial antipodist, and a renowned Capitalist who helps keep the world boring.
12:17:35 <HackEgo> Your omnidryad saddle principal swatty kind "Darth Ook" oerjan the shifty loud punster is a hazy expert in minor compaction. Also a Groadep who minces Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance. His ark-nemesis is Noah. He twice punned without noticing it.
12:17:50 <boily> int-e: I powered it off yesterday night. this morning the mouse works, but the fan level is too powerful.
12:18:19 <boily> I still have to escape to GRUB, recovery mode, then resume if I want to be able to Alt-F2 then startx.
12:18:41 * boily punches, elbows and shoulders the damned thing
12:19:14 <int-e> `slwed boily//s/Only sane adverb/Sane Mapoleon/
12:19:15 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: slwed: not found
12:19:21 <int-e> `slwd boily//s/Only sane adverb/Sane Mapoleon/
12:19:23 <HackEgo> boily//“Sane Mapoleon” boily is monetizing a brotherhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine. He is also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Groan Man Eating Chicken, a METARologist, seriously lacking in the f-word department, a thwack doctor, a Quintopial antipodist, and a renowned Capitalist who helps keep the world boring.
12:20:21 <boily> `slwd oerjan//s/twice/thrice/
12:20:23 <HackEgo> oerjan//Your omnidryad saddle principal swatty kind "Darth Ook" oerjan the shifty loud punster is a hazy expert in minor compaction. Also a Groadep who minces Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance. His ark-nemesis is Noah. He thrice punned without noticing it.
12:24:35 <int-e> TIL that DST was last introduced between 1977 and 1980 for most of Europe (and previously during the 1st and 2nd world war).
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13:33:14 <esowiki> [[TaiDoKu]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54017&oldid=53992 * Noner Kao * (-135) change some spec
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15:25:02 <izabera> https://emojipedia-us.s3.amazonaws.com/thumbs/240/emojipedia/113/smiling-face-with-smiling-eyes-and-three-hearts_1f970.png
15:25:11 <izabera> did you notice any problems with the THREE hearts?
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17:04:47 <Guest78223> izabera : I guess one of these heart is a FAKE
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18:10:09 <esowiki> [[Number Factory]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54020&oldid=53006 * 3snoW * (+902) I want to include a bit of code for those interested :)
18:13:19 <esowiki> [[Talk:Befunge]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54021&oldid=47028 * Martin Ender * (+482)
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18:30:05 <esowiki> [[The Waterfall Model]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=54022 * Ais523 * (+9776) new language?
18:30:36 <esowiki> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54023&oldid=54006 * Ais523 * (+26) /* T */ +[[The Waterfall Model]]
18:31:02 <esowiki> [[User:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54024&oldid=53661 * Ais523 * (+25) +[[The Waterfall Model]]
18:33:09 <ais523> I'm really happy with this language, it seems like there's a lot of promise for compiling to and from it and for writing interesting implementations
18:35:06 <esowiki> [[Number Factory]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54025&oldid=54020 * 3snoW * (+178) /* Interpreter */
18:35:59 <esowiki> [[Number Factory]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54026&oldid=54025 * 3snoW * (+2) /* Interpreter */
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18:53:44 <esowiki> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54028&oldid=54023 * DMC * (+12) /* N */
18:54:50 <esowiki> [[User:DMC]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54029&oldid=53983 * DMC * (+22)
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20:51:04 <HackEgo> olist 1112: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
20:59:05 <zzo38> One of the hearts is small
21:01:36 <zzo38> It is the picture izabera linked to
21:01:53 <zzo38> There is three hearts other than the small one
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21:35:47 <zzo38> Do you think this is good? https://allthetropes.org/wiki/User:Zzo38/GURPS1 Maybe you know more stuff which is applicable to add
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23:15:53 <zzo38> Now I read Waterfall Model; I think it is good. (But, shouldn't they be called "Waterclocks Model" instead?)
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23:41:37 * boily straps an automatic kicker to his desktop
23:41:57 <HackEgo> 1/2:brain//Brains are just receptacles for bricks. \ ☃//Frosty the Snowman / had a very shiny nose / And everywhere that Frosty went / the nose was sure to go. \ fnord am//Fnord AM is the repeated hour that happens when DST resolves. It is customary to celebrate it with a Garou Ping if one is awake during that time. \ imperative language/
23:42:07 <HackEgo> 2/2:/Imperative languages tell you what to do. \ monomorphism//A monomorphism is just an epimorphism in the opposite category.
23:43:18 <HackEgo> 1257) <mauris> MAHJONG TILE AUTUMN / HIRAGANA LETTER YA / SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW
23:44:23 <shachaf> For some reason I thought that haiku was fizzie's.
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