< 1519690053 75321 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1519690949 213217 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not again! < 1519690970 86788 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo! fizzie! < 1519691016 536708 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, bring HackEgo back < 1519691016 988437 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: what's xps? a transformation language for xml transformation? i'm leaning towards drawing the line at using call/ cc. :p < 1519691211 596173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This time it has just failed to autojoin. < 1519691233 112933 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1519691236 44482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. < 1519691248 153909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`owrjan < 1519691249 443294 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your omnidryad saddle principal swatty kind "Darth Ook" oerjan the shifty loud punster is a hazy expert in minor compaction. Also a Groadep who minces Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance. His ark-nemesis is Noah. He twice punned without noticing it. < 1519691257 716208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1519691262 808110 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:yeti//These are not the yetis you are looking for. \ advertisement//Advertisement starts: have you heard about this hip and froopy 'net place called #esoteric? It is on freenode. Brought to you by The Board of Timeskewed Advertiesements. \ tvtrope//We'll write about TVTropes here, we just have to finish these tabs first. \ mad//This wis < 1519691264 355890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1519691265 259699 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:dom entry was censored for being too accurate. \ stibia//Stibia is a spice that grows in your leg. < 1519691421 726475 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e warn 50/6 < 1519691422 463696 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: something's wrong at -e line 1. < 1519691428 417956 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e 'warn 50/6' < 1519691429 144129 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8.33333333333333 at -e line 1. < 1519691565 689349 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 50%6 < 1519691566 951043 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: 8.33333 < 1519691577 568142 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ (%6)*50 < 1519691578 178860 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: 8.33333 < 1519691582 793978 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 6%~50 < 1519691583 405922 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: 8.33333 < 1519691683 766059 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1519691684 559787 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ chocolate over the batter. Place on a lightly floured board in \ a bowl. Add the remaining ingredients in boiling water to combine. \ Cover and bake until the roasted to the boil. Stir in the cream \ of the liquid and spread with peanut oil in a small bowl. Pour into \ serving plate. Then, for a baking sheet and allow to cool. \ \ Prehea < 1519691689 873717 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`starwars 7 < 1519691690 970017 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Sarlacc \ Admiral Firmus Piett \ Ponda Baba \ Conan Antonio Motti \ Shmi \ Grievous \ Chewbacca < 1519691698 977909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 recipe < 1519691699 908590 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/3:g spinach in slices of completely. Combine \ mixture and salt in a warm place until it begins to cool for \ the heat and add the eggs to the egg mixture, add the spices \ and garlic to deep fryger plastic crumbs. With a sharp, if you like one fat \ from the heat and add the prepared pastry flour, cheese, and coriander \ to the pot; stir th < 1519691755 790117 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep fryger plastic crumbs? < 1519691889 731782 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a warm place until it begins to cool for the heat < 1519691923 209970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Could you learn to make recipes too? < 1519691923 390726 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ( fnord encoding file proc if-existent? if-non-existent? fnord) < 1519692519 740598 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1519693525 18723 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -v wisdom/stibia < 1519693525 787134 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try 'rm --help' for more information. < 1519693528 514710 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg stibia < 1519693533 708533 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` rm -v wisdom/stibia < 1519693543 580162 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7411:2016-04-17 learn Stibia is a spice that grows in your leg. < 1519693544 593478 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :removed 'wisdom/stibia' < 1519693562 814467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: forget hth < 1519693581 895564 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah right. I forgot. < 1519694904 546415 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, another question. < 1519694940 260441 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you write an integer in binary, which means radix 2, you can call each digit a "bit". If you write an integer in ternary, which means radix 3, you can call each digit a "trit". < 1519694970 147973 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I write an integer in radix 5, which you told me is called quinary, then what should I call a digit? < 1519695027 748092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd tell you to just choose one word for base n < 1519695032 245552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would be nitpicking < 1519695049 519876 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: like "digit"? < 1519695074 498581 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, let me check the C-intercal manual < 1519695087 858861 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it tells something in the trintercal section < 1519695118 702564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm going for the swat hth) < 1519695219 377330 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says < 1519695228 971082 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The small data types hold 16 bits, 10 trits, 8 quarts, 6 quints, 6 sexts, or 5 septs, and the large types are always twice this size." < 1519695238 803103 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the word I want is a "quint" < 1519695248 206552 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's any special words for octal or hexadecimal digits either, and those are a lot more popular than quinary. < 1519695280 644624 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: some call hexadecimal digits "hexits". I use that word sometimes, although I admit it's a stupid one < 1519695289 525528 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also "nybble" < 1519695299 716897 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's "nibble"? let me look it up < 1519695305 281693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to mention nibble/nybble. < 1519695321 524309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man, do finns pronounce "nybble" with the finnish y? < 1519695324 467597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it really "feels" more like a four-bit group than a hexadecimal digit. < 1519695344 113131 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nybble with a "y" in English < 1519695353 640686 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, that makes sense < 1519695355 219525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo | sha256sum < 1519695355 908086 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :01ba4719c80b6fe911b091a7c05124b64eeece964e09c058ef8f9805daca546b - < 1519695369 159452 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why a hexit is a different word < 1519695379 358160 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you'd have to call decimal digits "decits" or something < 1519695391 554562 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would call each aligned character pair there a "byte" and each character a "nybble". < 1519695412 366922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Units_of_information#Dibit has a bunch of names for various groups of bits. < 1519695415 856632 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or call a base ten digit a "tent" (and a quinary digit a "quit" obviously) < 1519695437 706708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2 bits: dibit,[12][13][10][14] crumb,[15] quad, quarter, taste, tayste, tidbit, tydbit, lick, lyck, semi-nibble." < 1519695494 586726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about "nucleobase" hth < 1519695520 352883 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"96 bits: bentobox" the food thing has gotten out of hand < 1519695525 527937 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: meh, anything beats the Intel terminology of "double quadword" and "quadruple quadword" for 16 and 32 byte long chunks < 1519695615 194554 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they put those things in instruction mnemonics, and the word "double" is also used for 8-byte IEEE floats in instruction mnemonics < 1519695618 985639 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's horrible < 1519695676 273198 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then of course there's all the people who use "long" to mean either a 4-byte chunk or an 8-byte chunk < 1519695685 728173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quidruple is a nickname for £4 < 1519695755 328588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike quidruble, which is a square unit corresponding to £ £*₽ < 1519695811 558417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Squared currency units aren't used very often, though there's a product called Square Cash which presumably uses them. < 1519695899 492767 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1519696020 717879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I guess startup accelerators are maybe measured in products / money squared? < 1519696288 360151 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are you a startup accelerator? < 1519696288 684803 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: actually, rather... widget type. the occurs check constrains that problem, then the syntactic-closure doesn't know about. < 1519696322 449381 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, you don't need an occurs check, the investors don't care about semantic soundness of the plan < 1519696327 576752 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at Warrigal's idling score
< 1519696348 645824 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as there's enough hype, the plan might as well be circular < 1519696357 96854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie++ < 1519696364 129243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I frequently see people write things like "$5 dollars" so I guess it's not that uncommon a unit. > 1519696431 237224 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Quantum brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54248&oldid=8552 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+26) 10/* External resources */ R.I.P. and not on Wayback < 1519696590 946237 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: They're in the archive. < 1519696594 344286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://github.com/graue/esofiles/tree/master/qbf/impl < 1519696612 613135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1519696613 244137 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 270150Z 06003KT 010V110 CAVOK M10/M16 Q1047 RMK WIND 670FT 09006KT < 1519696653 726161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I measure the tempperature at an airport myself, would that count as metarial nonpublic information? < 1519696702 886429 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ooh > 1519697078 901349 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Quantum brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54249&oldid=54248 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+42) 10/* External resources */ Was in the archive, thanks fizzie < 1519697281 337621 :Melvar!~melvar@ip-2-203-2-203.web.vodafone.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1519697338 67069 :sprocklem_!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1519697358 520380 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1519697836 410171 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a name for the human movement whose purpose is to get on or over an obstacle that's taller than your waist, and whose procedure is to do a jump starting from squatting position, while your hand is on the obstacle and you're pushing yourself up with your arm to jump higher, the goal being to get your foot or knee or upper body on the obstac < 1519697836 570154 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le and climb up from there? < 1519697869 281710 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're facing the obstacle. < 1519697912 677410 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1519698118 746188 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-071-160-174.088.071.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1519698188 392333 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lie group < 1519698189 471812 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lie group? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1519698197 551500 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo wisdom/lie* < 1519698199 26044 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/lie wisdom/lie algebra wisdom/lie bracket < 1519698202 945885 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lie algebra < 1519698204 325327 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Lie algebra is what you get if you take the region infinitesimally close to the identity of a Lie group and blow it up to normal size. < 1519698204 969211 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lie bracket < 1519698205 967958 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lie < 1519698206 102942 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Politicians try to stay within the lie bracket: Not so many lies that voters cannot stand it, but not so few that they think you have nothing to give them. < 1519698207 315258 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lies are even easier than monoids. They form groups, known as Lie groups. < 1519698248 576817 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. "wisdom/lie algebra" is clearly mine, the other two aren't < 1519698257 857804 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg lie < 1519698266 936625 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2981:2013-05-29 echo "Lies are even easier than monoids. They form groups, known as Lie groups." >wisdom/lie < 1519698890 416053 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1519700185 396342 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg lie algebra < 1519700192 791784 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6173:2015-11-02 le/rn lie algebra/A Lie algebra is what you get if you take the region infinitesimally close to the identity of a Lie group and blow it up to normal size. < 1519700198 51115 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I BEG TO DIFFER < 1519700243 82360 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -v bin/*rjan < 1519700245 169531 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :removed ‘bin/dowrjan’ \ removed ‘bin/owrjan’ \ removed ‘bin/quoerjan’ \ removed ‘bin/quørjan’ \ removed ‘bin/swrjan’ \ removed ‘bin/translatetoerjan’ \ removed ‘bin/zalgoerjan’ < 1519700264 345613 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was getting out of hand. < 1519700358 139885 :wob_jonas!b03f180c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.12 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1519700884 223627 :aloril!~aloril@80.246.146.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1519701374 540399 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1519703366 73233 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-spkahutmtxwxfbmp QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1519703897 351095 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1519704316 166426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1519704830 392968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: sorry for my connection < 1519704842 102350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1519704880 403435 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! 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:LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:9588:fae1:992c:23a8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1519752093 117403 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:9588:fae1:992c:23a8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1519753278 289938 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iaxaurcumrwjxiru JOIN :#esoteric < 1519753482 160834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone have advice for me about what syntaxes would be good for distinguishing keywords from variables? < 1519753488 7835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :case? sigils? if so, what? < 1519753500 88666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is for an esolang so I'm willing to be experimental, but I'd like the result to be easy to read and easy to type < 1519753676 424885 :Slereah!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-39-104.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use one of the Symbols Rarely Used For Anything < 1519753697 376710 :jaboja64!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1519753732 14445 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: /me does not even know what „Sigil“ means, so: Case, yes. < 1519753740 622003 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]: < 1519753740 731380 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sigil \Sig"il\, n. [L. sigillum. See {Seal} a stamp.] < 1519753740 848512 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric : A seal; a signature. --Dryden. < 1519753740 928741 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1913 Webster] < 1519753740 976907 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1519753743 136294 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric : Of talismans and sigils knew the power. --Pope. < 1519753745 640757 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1913 Webster] < 1519753751 500623 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Idea what that would be in Unicode < 1519753760 146871 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even plain ASCII, for that Matter. < 1519753767 803910 :jaboja64!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1519753805 48917 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: a sigil is basically a punctuation mark that's part of the spelling of an identifier < 1519753817 720858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as the $ before variable names in PHP and BuzzFizz < 1519753838 126540 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algol used a sigil on keywords instead (typically .) < 1519753864 722404 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah < 1519753871 729425 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then that would be better than Case < 1519753883 839521 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just because CamelCase sucks badly < 1519753895 873175 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Momma once gave me Camel-Milk-Soap < 1519753907 772563 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one even smelt worse than normal Soap 😉 < 1519753938 116709 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even forgot where she got it. Must have been some Holiday-Trip < 1519753952 848757 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some southern State < 1519754337 16777 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :,o0(But the best Soap must be human Soap like from the Fight-Clubs… 😉) < 1519754354 491235 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :,o0(„We are selling their own Asses back to them!“) < 1519754418 542325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: if I'm using case, what case should be used for variables and what case for keywords < 1519754457 308723 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only languages I've seen that have an idiomatic distinction have been BASIC variants < 1519754463 874655 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1519754465 229318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which use lowercase for variables and typically some sort of capitalisation for keywords < 1519754477 813749 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(older BASICs in allcaps, newer BASICs in initcapas) < 1519754481 460187 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :So _i_ would use Uppercase for KEYWORDS and lowercase for Variables. < 1519754686 500990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, thinking about it, I'm leaning towards sigilling keywords, as most of the contexts where you'd use keyword you can use punctuation instead < 1519754702 378434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the common choices for that are @ and \ (sometimes interchangeably!) < 1519754707 268877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but @ seems better < 1519754745 267291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C has an interesting way to do keywords _Which_Looks_Like_This but that's because it suddenly realised it needed to have namespaced the keywords all along and there weren't many namespaces left) < 1519754894 776369 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1519755076 588654 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION loves C
< 1519755096 942811 :augur!~augur@2600:380:8462:4b46:5c2d:9961:bb55:75bb JOIN :#esoteric < 1519755099 224940 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gotta look in the current IOCCCs some Time
< 1519755104 952813 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi augur < 1519755127 563487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the development version of C is considering using [[this]] syntax < 1519755136 76397 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a pragma/attribute-style thing < 1519755263 57247 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1519755287 18804 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as Borland's #pragma will not become standard... < 1519755313 147850 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION remembers that Turbo C did Preprocessing and Compiling in one Pass. Is that Memory correct?
< 1519755363 893577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's possible to implement that, I'm not sure if it was actually done like that but it's plausible < 1519755463 829510 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good < 1519755496 680824 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks that is because Borland or later Inprise actually got the Idea to implement their Pragmas with a Preprocessing-Directive
< 1519755578 996340 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/because/why/ < 1519755672 536524 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every GNU-Extension that makes it in a Standard i adore < 1519755691 848755 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every MSVC-Extension i despise < 1519755694 349478 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :😉 < 1519755984 293447 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:fb8b:fb15:c1d3:a33a JOIN :#esoteric < 1519755984 354478 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:fb8b:fb15:c1d3:a33a QUIT :Changing host < 1519755984 354540 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1519756165 924448 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the idea of sigilling keywords and using as little puntuation as possible < 1519756180 749535 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sigil would you use? < 1519756185 287884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that this is basically TeX < 1519756186 371840 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1519756198 548171 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ; < 1519756198 826625 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, with ` it isn't TeX but \ is visually similar < 1519756214 9479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the ; prefix, postfix, or circumfix? < 1519756237 756045 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a symbol you have to type a lot should be one of the symbols you can type without using shift < 1519756243 422661 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-107-244-128.188.107.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1519756258 49966 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's why Algol used . < 1519756259 986219 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;',./[]\-=` < 1519756277 649481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :…and why TeX used \, although it's in a bit of an awkward place on a UK keyboard < 1519756294 251183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even worse on a US keyboard though, if I remember where it is correctly) < 1519756302 748130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the sigil should be a letter, then < 1519756305 798164 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right bove enter < 1519756321 492368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which becomes forbidden at the start of variable names < 1519756328 760546 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: q < 1519756335 423031 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't order-pp and chaos-pp use 8 as a sigil? < 1519756344 359978 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah < 1519756347 458643 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which works well because it's not valid at the start of an identifier in regular C) < 1519756396 711943 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see the argument for using ; as a sigil because it's literally one of the keys you rest your fingers on when in the standard typing position < 1519756405 241743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but on the other hand, it'd look bizarre < 1519756417 389550 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: Found 1 in /dev/zero < 1519756425 77261 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wounder if you could scientifically check which letter is rarest at start of variable names < 1519756438 195604 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by surveying github or something < 1519756471 616260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it'd be hard to come up with a lot of keywords that legitimately start with that letter, though < 1519756485 839893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing q, though, because most of the other rare letters (j, x, z) tend to be used as single-letter variable names < 1519756492 76616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :q can be but that's rarer < 1519756507 893096 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowadays, i would probably use € < 1519756522 952734 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :qif x = 4 qthen qforeach < 1519756527 764617 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because € is moar worth than $ nowadays 😉 < 1519756550 554895 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 Euro equals < 1519756551 575019 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.22 US Dollar < 1519756556 920774 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Says the almighty Google. < 1519756560 219739 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1519756595 420211 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :When Trump would manage to start a War (— which he cannot, in my Opinion), € would probably be even worthier. ☺ < 1519756595 816522 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :qwhile is almost pronounceable < 1519756601 573731 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/When/If/ < 1519756609 264911 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\_: *nod* < 1519756666 517920 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you would have to have a starndard way to avoid q at start of words < 1519756696 165854 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :qmy aquestion = < 1519756713 289053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders whether @ is easier to type as Shift-' (on a UK keyboard) or Shift-2 (on a US keyboard)
< 1519756733 568239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\_: now you need an escape for "aq" too < 1519756747 934268 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alaqsa < 1519756769 82508 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aqsa is the only word I can think of that starts with aq < 1519756773 533468 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :esbele? < 1519756795 199982 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1519756796 108821 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1519756798 613311 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong Window < 1519756813 713715 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :In #WorldChat@IRCnet i just learned that „yw“ is „mh“ upside-down < 1519756829 466943 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is so used to Serifes that i had not realized until a few Moments ago
< 1519756830 767828 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h and y look fairly different in most fonts, even if you rotate one 180° < 1519756846 707102 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :So i tried putting „alqsa“ upside-down 😸 < 1519756853 104146 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: there is an upside down y that is better < 1519756854 10098 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1519756859 603062 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION likes Terminus best
< 1519756864 507164 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inconsolata second-best < 1519756882 875209 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\_: v? < 1519756890 843555 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh < 1519756896 893229 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ɦ < 1519756901 710789 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1519756904 233451 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh < 1519756904 441987 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn < 1519756954 348690 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still haven't verified that all characters in my font are distinct < 1519756992 67784 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how to do it efficiently either < 1519756999 22204 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1519757014 179349 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess by sorting them? < 1519757024 820889 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1519757040 647079 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chinese Letters are sorted by Count of Marks, i learned. < 1519757046 383691 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hopes that Information is correct.
< 1519757064 298075 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah stroke order < 1519757069 38365 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION never had a Chinese←→whatever-Dictionary in my Hands
< 1519757071 792618 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good < 1519757115 992979 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: I have a kanji dictionary. it sorts first by radical (which are ordered by stroke number) and then again by stroke number < 1519757151 769590 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1519757153 376737 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1519757276 604895 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have l distinct from ⅼ < 1519757294 625496 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from 1I| < 1519757403 593179 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ℐ𝓁𝑙𝑙𝗅𝒍𝗹𝘭𝕝𝐥𝔩 < 1519757435 767997 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think thats all the ells < 1519757507 844748 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to write some sort of character sorting program < 1519757894 147301 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely. < 1519760467 683076 :wob_jonas!b03f18c4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.196 JOIN :#esoteric < 1519760486 948145 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1519760537 298358 :wob_jonas!b03f18c4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: for keywords vs identifiers, I mostly recommend using punctuation for most syntax, fixing a short list of bare keywords, make sure each of them is common enough as a keyword that nobody forgets about it, and add a trailing hash mark to all rare keywords and all keywords you introduce in later extensions. < 1519760602 31530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer all keywords to work consistently < 1519760616 413977 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as I'm planning to have "key variables" which are like variables but have side effects < 1519760626 834887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and want those to work the same way syntactically < 1519760647 914202 :wob_jonas!b03f18c4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: another choice is if you can make the syntax of the language such that the user can shadow any keyword with a declaration, but firstly it's very hard to make such a syntax (metafont and scheme are about the only languages that succeed, < 1519760679 107198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme doesn't let you shadow ( and ) < 1519760692 124344 :wob_jonas!b03f18c4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in metafont this can cause horrible screwups when you make a typo in a declaration, mostly because you can shadow almost all punctuation tokens too), constrains future syntax, and worst of all, modules/headers you import can shadow a keyword for you and your program might not know. < 1519760694 691992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders what the minimum number of keywords a lisp-alike can get away with is
< 1519760719 188380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess just s and k < 1519760735 844431 :wob_jonas!b03f18c4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, I mean make all non-punctuation keywords shadowable, and make no punctuation shadowable, so all punctuation are always built-in syntax. < 1519760784 685469 :wob_jonas!b03f18c4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'"key variables" which are like variables but have side effects' => we call those macros < 1519760791 761029 :wob_jonas!b03f18c4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or sometimes sparks) < 1519760809 897001 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very different from a macro < 1519760813 759968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like a memory-mapped volatile thing < 1519760837 247893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, it's not really like either < 1519760858 725035 :wob_jonas!b03f18c4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um, so you mean variables that don't have syntax side effects, they follow ordinary syntax, but have arbitrary getter and setter functions? < 1519760863 106569 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do things like object.exists = false (where exists is a key variable) and the object stops existing < 1519760873 256458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, except that there are no booleans so you'd set it to 0 < 1519760887 532963 :wob_jonas!b03f18c4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... what do you mean by "stops existing" < 1519760901 176593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets deleted < 1519760912 96965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like free() in C < 1519760922 547826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is an esolang, it's got rather esoteric ways of thinking about things < 1519761016 125253 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod* < 1519761055 928352 :wob_jonas!b03f18c4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some language design questions too, I'll ask a bit later, but first I have to do some real world stuff < 1519761059 906942 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iaxaurcumrwjxiru QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1519761062 13101 :augur!~augur@2600:380:8462:4b46:5c2d:9961:bb55:75bb QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1519761067 96337 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1519761160 433403 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you set it to 2, I wonder < 1519761285 550865 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it becomes an array < 1519761303 656335 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1519761320 381460 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat.exists=9? < 1519761365 805497 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good old Cats < 1519761369 620465 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :9😸 < 1519761401 945372 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of strange thinking... http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/God#Final_Proof_of_the_Non-Existence_of_God < 1519761440 230398 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good old Puffs of Logics 😉 < 1519761774 734937 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 😸😉 < 1519761934 90612 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F638 GRINNING CAT FACE WITH SMILING EYES U+1F609 WINKING FACE < 1519761938 814561 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1519761953 750342 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks HackEgo < 1519761968 788725 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, HackEgo. ThackEgo. < 1519761971 96842 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 🙌 < 1519761983 33366 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1519761985 792977 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb HackEgo < 1519761999 292538 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F64C PERSON RAISING BOTH HANDS IN CELEBRATION < 1519762782 225826 :wob_jonas!b03f18c4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.196 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1519763090 693131 :wob_jonas!b03f18c4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.196 JOIN :#esoteric < 1519763252 685380 :wob_jonas!b03f18c4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.196 QUIT :Client Quit < 1519764173 66603 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1519764246 944587 :augur!~augur@2600:380:8452:9663:1cb2:2d2f:c082:77b JOIN :#esoteric < 1519764631 77462 :lldd!~n@129.79.117.91.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1519764777 742599 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kqzmumomrbqwgcfu JOIN :#esoteric < 1519765665 349464 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1519766246 92782 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:6b:e65a:3c24:d1ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1519766435 429190 :mniip!mniip@haskell/developer/mniip QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1519766493 23415 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:6b:e65a:3c24:d1ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1519766667 617581 :mniip!mniip@haskell/developer/mniip JOIN :#esoteric < 1519766849 436598 :Cale_!~cale@static-108-30-103-216.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1519766901 960632 :Cale_!~cale@static-108-30-103-216.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1519767032 416356 :mniip!mniip@haskell/developer/mniip QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded > 1519767126 371051 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grawlix14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54250&oldid=54126 5* 03DMC 5* (+106) 10 > 1519767373 110364 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitter14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54251&oldid=54160 5* 03DMC 5* (+34) 10 < 1519767452 621607 :mniip!mniip@haskell/developer/mniip JOIN :#esoteric < 1519768603 75441 :augur!~augur@2600:380:8452:9663:1cb2:2d2f:c082:77b QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1519769557 293791 :augur!~augur@104-244-24-85.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1519769651 513971 :augur!~augur@104-244-24-85.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1519769666 349321 :augur!~augur@104-244-24-85.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1519770795 118743 :augur!~augur@104-244-24-85.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1519771233 998655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1519771293 483052 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1519771643 499551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not been very stable lately. < 1519771665 828008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see what's wrong now. < 1519771701 155889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ix.io/Qpa <- that's wrong < 1519771768 949468 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :When it remounts the filesystem as read-only due to errors, HackEgo stops working; I forget exactly why. < 1519771884 189277 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall "fix" it by restarting, but that thing's really dying. < 1519771936 65473 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1519771961 225391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` 5 w # LET'S TRY THAT AGAIN < 1519771976 67874 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:modal logic//"modal logic" means "the most common logic" (that is, classical logic). \ phrel//Phrel is a swear word rdocscovered in 2018. It refers to a fluid that holds seeds. \ detonation//Detonation is the act of destroying a musical instrument. \ alise//elliott's not hiding over here \ c#//C Pound is Java's good twin. < 1519772002 745097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wasn't too wise. < 1519772486 994421 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1519772655 758133 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1519772693 195230 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: tdnh < 1519772775 394569 :laerling!~laerling@unaffiliated/laerling QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1519772935 549107 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1519772936 213147 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 272300Z 21009KT 15SM FEW090 BKN120 06/M02 A3002 RMK AC2AS5 SLP169 < 1519772942 968024 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :warm warm warm ^^♪ < 1519772960 824758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1519772961 5944 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 272253Z 21008KT 10SM FEW200 13/M03 A3004 RMK AO2 SLP173 T01281033 < 1519772994 494069 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1519773264 479659 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1519773312 268698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1519773312 871954 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 272250Z AUTO 01004KT 350V050 9999 NCD M04/M07 Q1020 NOSIG < 1519773317 207646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEAST FROM THE EAST < 1519773326 28654 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Followed by the PEST FROM THE WEST. < 1519773395 2325 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1519773405 60865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure how long that'll survive. < 1519773434 137504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg modal logic < 1519773441 717662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :((It didn't fail to IO error this time, it failed to "INFO: task multibot:939 blocked for more than 120 seconds", and then the autorejoin didn't work.) < 1519773443 453481 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8486:2016-06-16 le/rn modal logic/"modal logic" means "the most common logic" (that is, classical logic). < 1519773448 961279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! < 1519773461 83086 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1519773720 997133 :wob_jonas!b03f1870@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1519773817 591582 :wob_jonas!b03f1870@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it remounts the file system as read only? do you have the kernel logs? is it logical file system errors, or IO errors of the underlying disk? < 1519773851 995208 :wob_jonas!b03f1870@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and how many times have this happened within the last two years? < 1519773886 539342 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: http://ix.io/Qpa < 1519773915 111733 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a recent development. < 1519773928 617492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably CaC shunted the instance to a bad host. < 1519773999 297755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've no idea what their block device layer is based on.) < 1519774384 973236 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziello. does CaC have _any_ good host? < 1519774420 64990 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I guess s/bad/worse/ < 1519774943 287725 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1519775085 529586 :wob_jonas!b03f1870@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ouch < 1519775098 128348 :wob_jonas!b03f1870@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so IO errors < 1519775851 463873 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about the precise error, but that's what my CaC used to be like all the time... an I/O error leading to a r/o remount a month, later every two weeks < 1519775900 342087 :wob_jonas!b03f1870@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1519775905 651963 :wob_jonas!b03f1870@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really bad