00:17:46 -!- tromp has joined. 00:22:01 `ptlist 00:22:01 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ptlist: not found 00:22:04 argh. 00:22:39 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 00:23:37 `dobg ptlist 00:23:38 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: dobg: not found 00:24:10 `mkx bin/dobg//doag "bin/$1" 00:24:13 bin/dobg 00:25:55 helloily 00:26:08 -!- tromp has joined. 00:30:52 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 00:32:21 mhelloony! 00:32:28 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:32:30 shachaf: primitive technology. 00:32:39 bonsøœirjan! 00:34:34 boid kveldy! 00:37:52 i'm working on a golfing language for fun 00:39:26 . o O ( isn't fun usually too brief already? ) 00:40:35 . o O ( ●◕◐◔› have some circles. Maybe an array of them will make oerjan stop complaining in thought bubbles? ) 00:42:22 . ● ◔ ( don't bet on it ) 00:42:45 some of those characters behave weirdly in the terminal. 00:43:13 turning into squares when i mark them 00:43:35 in fact the last one didn't copy right either 00:43:56 hm looks fine in logs 00:47:44 . o O ( Luckily for me, my esolang doesn't support strings. oerjan won't touch it with his complaints ) 01:01:21 -!- tromp has joined. 01:05:37 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 01:12:49 -!- sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 01:25:25 -!- tromp has joined. 01:29:37 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 01:39:11 -!- tromp has joined. 01:43:44 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 01:46:35 `dowg password 01:46:43 11345:2018-02-15 learn The password of the month is late. \ 11291:2017-12-31 learn The password of the month is early. \ 11251:2017-12-01 learn The password of the month is equally offensive to all beliefs (but not time zones) \ 11250:2017-12-01 learn The password of the month is equally offensive to all be 01:47:01 a rare opportunity 01:48:09 `learn The password of the month is Schizophrenic Lagomorph 01:48:11 Relearned 'password': The password of the month is Schizophrenic Lagomorph 01:48:59 hmm? 01:49:15 Max is the only lagomorph I know. 01:49:42 Also how come hyraxes aren't lagomorphs? 01:52:15 * oerjan is not familiar with Max afahr 02:05:21 -!- nchambers has changed nick to uplime. 02:05:47 -!- MDude has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 02:07:34 -!- MDude has joined. 02:11:09 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 02:12:34 -!- sleffy has joined. 02:15:05 `file bin/fueue 02:15:13 bin/fueue: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=89247b916281ab82a21e5831fecc0a11ece42394, not stripped 02:16:11 `5 w 02:16:20 1/1:piet//Piet is a really colourful programming language. \ meta//meta is about \ codo//The codo button is the dodo's undo button. \ america//This wisdom entry had to be removed due to a DMCA takedown notice. \ translater//A translater is one who transes a long time after the fact. 02:16:47 `dowg america 02:16:55 9559:2016-10-30 revert 9546 \ 9550:2016-10-30 le/rn America/America is two continents west of the Atlantic Ocean, split in two, North and South. A relatively small land bridges the two. \ 1510:2013-01-13 echo "This wisdom entry had to be removed due to a DMCA takedown notice." >wisdom/america 02:18:05 What's the command to run a command with one argument, HackEgo-style? 02:20:06 -!- tromp has joined. 02:22:10 nur 02:22:47 however, you might be interested in `,2 which i just made the other day. 02:22:49 i,i why isn't it bin/run, which is useless anyway 02:22:54 `cat bin/`,2 02:22:55 cat: bin/`,2: No such file or directory 02:23:06 because it reverses the effect of `run 02:23:26 I was about to make bin/`2` to do what I'm guessing this thing does. 02:23:31 If you can just remember its name. 02:24:07 `,2 ? time cube 02:24:09 2/2:le time. Lie that corrupts earth you educated stupid fools. 02:24:13 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:24:33 Er, right. bin/2`, and yours is bin/,2 02:24:49 oerjan++ # stealing my ideas and traveling back in time to implement them 02:24:52 the , is because it undoes ` like in scheme hth 02:25:08 good naming scheme 02:25:13 yep 02:25:38 i,i `learn_append shachaf He once punned without noticing it. 02:26:33 -!- boily has quit (Quit: ELEVATED CHICKEN). 02:29:08 `owrjan 02:29:09 Your omnidryad saddle principal swatty kind "Darth Ook" oerjan the shifty loud punster is a hazy expert in minor compaction. Also a Groadep who minces Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance. His ark-nemesis is Noah. He twice punned without noticing it. 02:38:19 [[Fueue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54296&oldid=36605 * Oerjan * (+128) /* External resources */ My tweaked version 02:42:52 apparently the PPCG people added Fueue to TIO 02:44:36 planet pooch code golf 02:52:27 PlayerPunknown's Cattlegrounds. 03:06:56 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 03:07:27 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 03:08:36 -!- sleffy has joined. 03:10:41 -!- variable has quit (Quit: /dev/null is full). 03:28:14 https://politics.theonion.com/white-house-now-just-holding-continuous-going-away-part-1822978954 03:28:20 Erm, wrong channel 03:30:23 -!- tromp has joined. 03:31:47 pikhq: hikhq 03:32:11 lochaf 03:33:04 So I thought that person was obviously fake based on their post history. 03:33:09 But then it seemed like they might be real? 03:33:18 Maybe the world is just scow and real people do that sort of thing. 03:34:11 The world is definitely scow. 03:35:10 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 03:45:05 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 03:50:01 -!- erkin has joined. 03:50:39 -!- erkin has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:03:12 -!- tromp has joined. 04:07:27 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:14:55 -!- variable has joined. 04:16:09 -!- variable has quit (Client Quit). 04:16:41 -!- sprocklem has joined. 04:17:50 -!- variable has joined. 04:18:20 -!- variable has quit (Client Quit). 04:56:26 -!- tromp has joined. 05:00:33 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:05:53 -!- doesthiswork1 has joined. 05:05:54 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:35:27 -!- brandonson has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:37:13 -!- brandonson has joined. 05:49:36 -!- tromp has joined. 05:53:57 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 06:04:46 -!- Gregor has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 06:08:02 -!- Gregor has joined. 06:11:47 -!- variable has joined. 06:11:59 -!- variable has quit (Client Quit). 06:13:44 -!- j-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 06:21:52 [[Cryptoleq]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54297&oldid=54293 * Oleg * (+12) 06:28:57 -!- Gregor has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 06:32:10 -!- Gregor has joined. 06:42:50 -!- tromp has joined. 06:47:45 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 06:48:57 -!- sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 06:50:42 -!- moei has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 06:55:53 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:56:46 -!- augur has joined. 06:58:25 -!- j-bot has joined. 07:02:07 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 07:03:37 -!- augur has joined. 07:07:57 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 07:37:18 -!- tromp has joined. 07:54:59 -!- sprocklem has joined. 08:16:35 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 08:31:34 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 08:49:20 -!- doesthiswork1 has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 09:04:13 <\oren\_> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Bridge_29_Macclesfield_Canal.jpg 09:04:27 <\oren\_> It's a bridge built in a weird way so that a horse pulling a boat can switch sides without having to detach the rope from the boat. topology in action! 09:07:13 <\oren\_> I have a question about this though: is it possible to construct a junction of three waterways such that a horse-drawn boat can go from any waterway to any other waterway without detaching the rope? 09:11:52 <\oren\_> never mind I see how to do it. you need three bridges though 09:12:25 <\oren\_> can it work with only two? 09:13:35 -!- variable has joined. 09:15:02 -!- Hoolootwo has changed nick to Hooloovo0. 09:25:55 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 09:29:43 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 09:35:11 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 09:35:47 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 09:40:30 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Client Quit). 09:40:54 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 09:42:46 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Client Quit). 09:43:37 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 09:44:54 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Client Quit). 09:45:38 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 09:47:05 huh, and the rule about "you must break a loop if you can" isn't in the Comprehensive Rules => indeed, but I believe that's an oversight made at the M2010 rules updates (in 2009-07). The pre-M2010 rules (from 2009-05-01) is more explicit in the rule then called 421. 09:47:41 [[Talk:Wierd Machine]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=54298 * Plokmijnuhby * (+354) Created page with "I'm not totally clear on how this language works. If it takes input, does it place it in a cell? Which one? If you compare the two cells, what does it do with that information..." 09:49:28 ais523: That version of the rules says: 421.2. If the loop contains one or more optional actions and one player controls them all, that player chooses a number. The loop is treated as repeating that many times or until another player intervenes, whichever comes first. 421.3. If a loop contains optional actions controlled by two players and actions 09:49:29 by both of those players are required to continue the loop, ... 09:50:25 I think they forgot to include that loop at the rewrite. 09:56:23 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 10:04:17 -!- danieljabailey has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 10:05:30 -!- danieljabailey has joined. 10:10:56 \oren\: I think two bridges are enough. Just build two bridges similar to that one you linked, only make them wider so the horse can choose to go under the bridge and continue to walk on the same shore, on each shore. 10:11:31 It won't be very practical though, because you'll need a long rope that you tie shorter most of the time, 10:13:09 That's practical today, but only because we have light synthetic ropes, the kind that mountain-climbers can carry a lot of, making mountain-climbing much safer, and once you assume such modern technology, you'll also have modern steel clamps that make unattaching and reattaching a rope pretty quick. 10:13:25 Plus, you know, we have engines now instead of horses. 10:33:48 -!- moei has joined. 10:39:39 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 10:59:23 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 11:21:00 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 11:27:37 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:33:42 -!- variable has changed nick to constant. 11:35:59 -!- boily has joined. 11:46:58 `5 w 11:47:05 1/3:vacuum tube//After the London terrorist attacks of 2005, the Underground was completely evacuated. 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I think I've solved the M:tG think such that we have no decisions to make, and thus can't get dinged for slow play 16:35:52 *thing 16:36:04 we use basically the same setup, but the opponent controls the Noxious Ghoul 16:36:15 so the only creature that we control is the real Rotlung Reanimator 16:36:23 *M:tG thing 16:36:42 deliberately setting up a very long loop so that you have no control over the outcome is probably not going to escape slow play 16:36:53 alercah: I've been reading the rules in huge detail 16:37:06 AFAIK, the /opponent/ gets a slow play penalty if /they/ can't predict the outcome of the loop 16:37:15 the penalty rules are soft 16:37:21 especially slow play 16:37:27 yes, I can't imagine a judge would give more than a warning, if anything 16:37:40 but the point is that it means that the player can legally set up the lopo 16:37:42 *loop 16:37:57 no judge is going to be held to the letter of the penalty rules if it leads to ridiculous outcomes 16:38:14 the basic issue was that in our previous construction, the active player could control the order in which two triggers stacked, putting one on top would lead to a tight loop, the other on top to a non-tight loop 16:38:20 they'll go to the head judge, get a deviation, and do it 16:38:29 right 16:38:36 this is purely about wanting to set up the combo under the rules of the game 16:39:00 the fact that the opponent in theory gets a slow play penalty for not predicting the outcome is irrelevant, as as you say it'll never happen in practice (although it is amusing) 16:39:38 something that interested me is that the Comprehensive Rules have no loop-breaking rules 16:39:53 other than "a loop that contains only mandatory actions is a draw", which is ill-defined both in terms of "loop" and "mandatory" 16:40:20 yeah 16:40:33 the "you must not continue with a loop if you can't predict the result" is MTR-only (and slightly weird as it doesn't take into account the situation where you have no choice but to continue the loop or to concede) 16:41:14 yeah 16:41:22 we can even adjust this to a very large finite setup (say, we run this for a trillion iterations rather than infinity, stacking the trillion Noxious Ghoul triggers on the stack at the start), then we /know/ there isn't a draw by mandatory loop 16:41:30 and yet nobody can predict the outcome so it's still illegal to actually continue with it… 16:47:27 alercah: incidentally, in "a loop that contains only mandatory actions is a draw", would you consider choosing the order in which to stack triggers to be a mandatory action? 16:47:41 especially if it makes no difference in the long run? 16:53:42 yes, it's mandatory 17:01:47 hmm, if it /does/ make a difference in the long run (e.g. some stack orders can break the loop, some can't), I guess that makes it possible for the outcome of a game to be ill-defined 17:06:09 -!- `^_^v has joined. 17:10:20 -!- LKoen has joined. 17:12:33 -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 17:27:01 -!- sleffy has joined. 17:37:40 -!- uplime has changed nick to nchambers. 18:12:55 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 18:18:12 -!- MDude has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 18:21:22 -!- MDude has joined. 18:45:26 -!- ivzem has joined. 18:48:17 -!- ivzem has quit (Client Quit). 18:51:31 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 19:07:23 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:17:46 -!- sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 19:22:57 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:31:54 -!- ais523 has joined. 19:45:04 -!- sprocklem has joined. 19:45:15 -!- augur has joined. 19:52:32 -!- zseri has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:53:02 -!- zseri has joined. 20:05:37 -!- zseri has quit (Quit: Leaving). 20:09:17 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 20:14:20 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 20:40:03 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 20:40:54 ais523: have you read my reply in the logs? or should I paste it? 20:43:31 ais523: as for the slow play, if the opponent can't predict what happens, isn't he just supposed to call a judge, just like when he doesn't know what happens because of obscure rules questions? he's not punished for how slow the judge is. 20:43:58 I haven't read it, I can try to find it though 20:44:08 https://esolangs.org/logs/2018-03-07.html 20:44:18 search for wob_jonas 20:44:43 wob_jonas: aha, so the rule I remembered being in the rules actually was a rule once 20:44:46 but it got repealed by mistake? 20:44:51 how nomic 20:45:06 lol 20:45:58 either that or they decided to just let the MTR handle it 20:46:29 I blame Mark Gottlieb 20:53:22 maybe I'll email Wizards about it 20:53:28 not right now, though, I should sleep 20:53:31 night everyone 20:53:34 night 20:53:36 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 20:53:49 (I should have @told) 20:57:26 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:01:02 wob_jonas: You can link to a specific line by clicking on the nickname on that line -- it will add a #lXXX anchor to the URL. 21:01:12 https://esolangs.org/logs/2018-03-07.html#lBc for example. 21:01:33 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Cockatrice * New user account 21:02:12 fizzie: yeah. or I could have just @told him earlier. at that point it didn't matter, and I was eating with one hand, which slowed me down. 21:15:48 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54299&oldid=54261 * Cockatrice * (+193) /* Introductions */ 21:24:57 -!- sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 21:27:41 -!- sprocklem has joined. 21:29:13 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:31:36 -!- sleffy has joined. 21:37:37 -!- Naergon_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 22:09:03 -!- Naergon has joined. 22:19:38 -!- augur has joined. 22:23:50 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 22:24:05 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 22:24:34 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 22:26:10 -!- sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 22:41:27 -!- sprocklem has joined. 22:58:54 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 23:00:28 -!- LKoen has joined. 23:10:49 <\oren\_> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322530755_Analysis_and_Qualitative_Effects_of_Large_Breasts_on_Aerodynamic_Performance_and_Wake_of_a_Miss_Kobayashi%27s_Dragon_Maid_Character?channel=doi&linkId=5a5ef35a458515c03ee11245&showFulltext=true 23:15:27 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 23:45:59 -!- tromp has quit.