< 1522540887 686673 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1522540894 49597 :MDead!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1522541054 148347 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522541216 86081 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522541313 357875 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i had to revert Hq9++fan's superscript edit at Wikipedia too, at least there I could link an explicit policy against it - and Martin Ender reverted one on PPCG. I assume it was him, although the nicks were different. < 1522541318 823423 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*on < 1522541346 843645 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hm i guess i never reverted them on esolang.) < 1522541356 337571 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still not over the "fake" attribute. < 1522541373 5955 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't read all the mess on esolangs yet. < 1522541431 117372 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable011.156-175-137.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is this mysterious Hq9++fan. < 1522541490 802613 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody who prefers Unicode to proper HTML markup, at least in the case of super- and subscripts. Also someone who appears to be prone to temper tantrums. :-P < 1522541638 353931 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also e doesn't understand unicode dashes. < 1522541657 348497 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, few do. < 1522541678 680087 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(including me.) but e persists even after being explained. < 1522541874 929787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1522541947 681477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522541965 228325 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1522542048 582763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "This page is currently inactive and is retained for historical reference." < 1522542056 634027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's maybe not the best of arguments < 1522542061 946015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I agree with the content of the page as written > 1522542146 288125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esoteric programming language14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54650&oldid=54615 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-20) 10I disagree, because it makes it hard to see when a link should be to the wiki's own page, but isn't, which is exactly what happens here. < 1522542274 644518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I seriously considered sending it to the local page rather than interwiki page < 1522542286 475814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should have done so > 1522542286 848456 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Golf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54651&oldid=46774 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+67) 10/* External resources */ Add Wikipedia link here instead < 1522542398 108863 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hm if it's inactive then it's a bad idea to have WP:shortcuts going straight into the middle of it... i just completed the obvious link name, and didn't _look_ at the page outside the section. < 1522542430 17105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels like every page in Wikipedia: namespace has a shortcut < 1522542443 746079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading the talk page, it seems like the particular page is inactive because it's not linked from / considered part of the main MOS < 1522542445 45137 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most sections < 1522542454 701147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus people are worried it'll get out of sync with common practice < 1522542463 507584 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1522542514 216893 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm actually i don't think i completed that directly, i _did_ find it from somewhere else. < 1522542532 205395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a list of how common each word is in the story I was recording in my GURPS game so far, by the use of the command: (seq 1 11 | xargs -i fossil wiki export 'Session {}') | sed -r 's/[0-9]+<\/sup>|
//g;/^
|^\||^\[|^\]/d' | egrep -ow '[-A-Za-z'"'"']+' | tr a-z A-Z | sort | uniq -c The most common word is "the", appearing 666 out of 10050 times. < 1522542540 632962 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i went via WP:NUMBERS or something. < 1522542551 461482 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you analyzing a story by the word statistics and how it is being compared to others? < 1522542690 722819 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode superscripts/subscripts can be used when you are including examples of a Jelly code in a wiki article, but should not be used for exponents, footnotes, and all of that other stuff. < 1522542863 656768 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. i got to it from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Mathematics#Superscripts_and_subscripts. so it _is_ linked but i somehow glossed over the warning at the other end. < 1522542884 5625 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't be the first time that Wikipedia guidelines were internally contradictory :-D < 1522542949 933419 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that section also mentions the policy, although only for squares. < 1522542967 717294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why they need a rule to "ignore all rules". < 1522543124 183625 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm do you think mentioning http://www.hugi.scene.org/compo/compoold.htm#compo6 on https://esolangs.org/wiki/Golf would be appropriate? < 1522543356 899985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1522543555 527568 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGIRL, dying... < 1522543965 116507 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, tricky. https://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_implementations has smaller implementations (than 240 bytes) for several platforms. (and already lists the competition as well) < 1522544920 326862 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you should mention such thing < 1522545258 162496 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : also, it's intended only for use in IPA (i.e. phonetic spelling) <-- ah, one of my favorite unusual sounds < 1522545327 707025 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but it's easier to just leave the page as it is... the 240 byte compiler is special in that it was produced by Urban Müller as part of designing the language. < 1522545336 503690 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cʟearʟy a great improvement on the usuaʟ l < 1522545357 612662 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still no hackego < 1522545364 605825 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unidecode < 1522545364 639334 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1522545366 467673 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1522545369 830318 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just googled < 1522545378 364824 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google ʟ < 1522545380 418197 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sfh01.sapdevcenter.com/nntp-archive/action/article/%3C47620687@forums-1-dub%3E < 1522545380 451647 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: SAP Sybase Forums - ASE - Administration - PDF Re: Newbie - Segments Question... < 1522545385 152930 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :googʟed? < 1522545402 549568 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may not be the hit i wanted < 1522545408 312021 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google ʟ wikipedia < 1522545408 883411 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://wikileaks.org/syria-files/docs/624165_www-asca-sy-com-.html < 1522545421 507221 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i suspect the character doesn't get through properly < 1522545429 363520 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google ʟ unicode < 1522545429 826325 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=4961 < 1522545439 783720 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, that worked for me :) < 1522545445 410054 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google ʟ site:wikipedia.org < 1522545445 860734 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Result Found. < 1522545470 41015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ʟ < 1522545479 303291 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually ... I don't know whether the encoding is handled correctly in there < 1522545483 47320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't bother with search engines, just type the URL you want < 1522545483 624631 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect character encoding problems before it gets to google < 1522545491 928092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia aims to have a redirect from every Unicode character to the appropriate article < 1522545509 647596 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google ümläute < 1522545510 282258 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://yomowo.com/blogs/tomsblog/21939496 < 1522545627 220339 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the ü is surely wrong, not sure about the ä < 1522545663 143915 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :GET /search?hl=en&q=%C3%83%C2%BCml%C3%83%C2%A4ute HTTP/1.1 < 1522545669 691011 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks doubly encoded < 1522545681 241087 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay. < 1522545751 626250 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( is there a URL quine ) < 1522545787 275643 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect the encoding is decreasing in size < 1522545787 578884 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you have some defining to do. < 1522545819 161811 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are plenty of trivial quines in there... just avoid all the characters that need to be encoded. < 1522545837 174431 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, just apply PPCG rules < 1522545852 31285 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some character must encode something other than itself < 1522545855 562192 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would require me to know them < 1522545873 897697 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and also itself, iirc.) < 1522545889 64682 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it mustn't read its own code, which i don't think is a problem here. < 1522545895 333785 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:94b3:b8db:7c90:855 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522545943 291607 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'll try to remember... I want to try getting lambdabot to work with ghc-8.4.1 anyway < 1522545965 187851 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :have they got <> into Prelude yet? < 1522545973 311145 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes they have < 1522545982 231665 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Semigroup is a superclass of Monoid < 1522545989 70978 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :both are annoying :P < 1522546025 90063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't believe a URL can encode something of the same length as itself, other than itself < 1522546032 845992 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: aww < 1522546035 262972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a strictly size-expanding encoding, isn't it? < 1522546041 715697 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i didn't not expect that.) < 1522546043 663644 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the real trouble will be with hint and the ghc API. (I have a hacked version that compiles but fails to actually evaluate) < 1522546131 696015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that sizecoding competition is bizarre, it insists on CRLF newline conversion < 1522546161 430107 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it did target DOS. < 1522546223 868186 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But existing brainfuck programs would rely on ++++++++++. to skip to the start of the next line... hence the requirement. < 1522546258 241254 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1522546288 281713 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 bit and -1 for EOF may be more debatable choices. < 1522546296 864117 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1522546604 365502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 bit is generally a good choice for esolang tapes in .COM files < 1522546773 335185 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But 8 bits would perhaps have been easier. < 1522546827 382793 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though as far as I can see at a glance, it would save just 2, maybe 3 bytes. < 1522546860 993437 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The CR/LF handling is closer to 13 bytes. < 1522546947 702289 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and kind of broken in my entry... printing 13 will print CR/LF and change the cell to 10. I suspect the rules allowed that :-P) < 1522547012 607044 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:94b3:b8db:7c90:855 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1522547398 653065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you define its own segment for the tape then it can use the entire area, otherwise the same segment will be used also for the interpreter and the program < 1522547529 194400 :sprocklem_!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1522547551 473382 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1522547553 132271 :sprocklem_!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem NICK :sprocklem < 1522547610 397516 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's all going into a single segment... the competition rules limited the program size to 10k characters, and the tape to 10k 16 bit cells. < 1522547660 481755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, then it can fit < 1522548364 133687 :sprocklem_!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1522548375 887532 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1522548386 468804 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1522548388 132654 :sprocklem_!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem NICK :sprocklem < 1522548576 910153 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Client Quit < 1522549515 410909 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable011.156-175-137.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: SMALLER CHICKEN < 1522549779 218318 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A 10k brainfuck program with 10k 16-bit cells could easily be converted to TAVERN; much larger programs might use the ROM extension to store the program and then interpret it, but that may be very slow especially if it needs to bankswitch. A more sophisticated compiler might try to look for strings and compile those separately, in which case you might not need the extra ROM extension. < 1522549826 255952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Compiling brainfuck to Glulx should also be not too difficult, I suppose) < 1522550334 15159 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1522550358 348338 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522551745 356394 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1522553693 35629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1522553709 986044 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1522554102 702045 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522554401 361178 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-xovljyixlkvryxfa QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1522554451 48506 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-oqaxamzkqwohoggn JOIN :#esoteric < 1522554847 787749 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ) < 1522554847 888326 :fungot`!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...bad insn! < 1522555800 774084 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1522555817 58256 :danil!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522555834 181180 :danil!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net NICK :singingbananan < 1522555841 71746 :singingbananan!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net NICK :singingbanana < 1522555846 700108 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1522555955 673966 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to say: Happy Easter(In UK) and Happy April Fools Day/ International Joke Languages/Esolang creation day. < 1522556329 645346 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: singingbanana < 1522556837 702542 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522556884 763127 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522556964 913396 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1522556999 828997 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522557351 42361 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: singingbanana < 1522557858 142983 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522557897 269277 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1522558101 148488 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1522559487 355689 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522559487 455853 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1522561350 487103 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522561738 298594 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that james grime?! < 1522563165 1063 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1522563310 330618 :wob_jonas!b03f18c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522563330 319072 :wob_jonas!b03f18c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In [[List_of_ideas]] < 1522563348 746210 :wob_jonas!b03f18c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :, where do I put an idea for a joke presentation of a serious language? Does that go into "Partially Silly Ideas"? > 1522563605 771538 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54652&oldid=54093 5* 03B jonas 5* (+507) 10/* Joke/Silly Ideas */ < 1522563852 11326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so? < 1522564539 709445 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1522564597 400366 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522564847 380781 :wob_jonas!b03f18c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see HackEgo is not back yet < 1522565008 238999 :wob_jonas!b03f18c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.192 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1522565229 196373 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1522567038 929846 :augur!~augur@2600:380:c02b:877a:31eb:bf7f:ff9e:a2b1 JOIN :#esoteric > 1522568082 940614 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07ZTOALC L14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54653&oldid=54648 5* 03Plokmijnuhby 5* (-4) 10/* Truth-machine */ < 1522568675 412790 :mniip!mniip@haskell/developer/mniip QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1522568825 783636 :augur!~augur@2600:380:c02b:877a:31eb:bf7f:ff9e:a2b1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1522569514 25916 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uakyjxqbvljcunzr QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1522570003 968650 :impomatic!~digital_w@host86-179-62-96.range86-179.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1522570043 456183 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1522570150 655206 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zex1glfa1xy3qc.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1522570560 640434 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zex1glfa1xy3qc.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1522571242 164160 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1522571611 830572 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor HackEgo < 1522571701 679618 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522573053 325367 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1522573190 691336 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1522574937 686125 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1522575029 376860 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522575297 435429 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1522578058 690435 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1522578177 681877 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1522578453 447698 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1522578573 707283 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522578640 570399 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1522578676 870153 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1522581381 887208 :danil!c2a82dba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.168.45.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522581389 98245 :danil!c2a82dba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.168.45.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1522581399 937641 :danil!c2a82dba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.168.45.186 QUIT :Client Quit < 1522581417 730342 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522585320 715215 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:b45b:d684:22f3:c32f JOIN :#esoteric < 1522585357 339827 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1522592053 944297 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1522593025 331897 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1522593123 863158 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522596532 424998 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522597337 600093 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1522597540 833104 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-scofhwxmjumtthto JOIN :#esoteric > 1522597851 18779 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Turing number14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54654&oldid=54649 5* 03Enoua5 5* (+3) 10Typo fix < 1522598642 868582 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1522599044 726504 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522600412 777397 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:b45b:d684:22f3:c32f QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1522601608 158410 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522603331 168050 :augur!~augur@2600:380:4637:eaec:c8e:33c3:876c:4838 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522603484 434413 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522603525 185398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522605322 454373 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-scofhwxmjumtthto QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1522605455 892332 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1522605598 725337 :augur_!~augur@2600:380:4637:eaec:3510:293d:898f:82ba JOIN :#esoteric > 1522605703 500608 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Alfie14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=54655 5* 03Singingbanana 5* (+63) 10Created page with "Alfie is a esolang based on presumptions. It is in development." < 1522605736 40026 :augur_!~augur@2600:380:4637:eaec:3510:293d:898f:82ba QUIT :Client Quit < 1522605788 715300 :augur!~augur@2600:380:4637:eaec:c8e:33c3:876c:4838 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds > 1522606396 944011 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 031024x2 5* 10New user account > 1522606498 813388 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54656&oldid=54518 5* 031024x2 5* (+155) 10 < 1522606516 682973 :augur!~augur@2600:380:462d:907b:406:c4cf:2e3:c012 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522607052 793800 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-118-37.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522608123 941507 :ZM!4db481f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.180.129.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522608276 837357 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a46c74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1522609175 16362 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1522609382 667195 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yhyukmlljnnnxkam JOIN :#esoteric < 1522610266 411955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1522610338 865598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522610363 8234 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: Found 1 in /dev/zero < 1522610511 262284 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1522611614 889818 :ZM!4db481f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.180.129.243 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1522611831 160447 :doesthiswork1!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522611831 451275 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1522612722 937438 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1522617083 859108 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1522617204 221420 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1522617672 155240 :doesthiswork1!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1522618933 312613 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1522618977 333310 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1522619053 733971 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1522619280 668307 :rain1!~rain1@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522619625 886588 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522619672 578691 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello all. Is anyone aware of a language in the wiki that is based on Wang tiles? I was thinking of writing up an idea I had but if there are any that already exist I don't want to create something that is redundant. < 1522619765 16164 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of one (although you try try the search function). < 1522619775 375086 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see what you can make up, if you can < 1522619822 150701 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orby: But Is It Art? is similar but not the same < 1522619842 480533 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1522619915 420970 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yeah, I searched and didn't come up with any hits. "Domino" sounds like it could be related, but the page is unclear. < 1522619925 163987 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Thanks, I'll take a look. < 1522620012 561013 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came up with a way to simulate rule 110 with wang tiles last night and thought a system which contained it would allow for a nice proof of tc < 1522620049 806522 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1522620198 842992 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a46c74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1522620298 780705 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they have composition tournaments for Magic: the Puzzling like they do have for chess? < 1522620402 525266 :rain1!~rain1@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wang tiles are already turing complete though? < 1522620424 429690 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they are, but I suppose, it is another way to do it now < 1522620492 932392 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, wang tiles have been known to be turing complete for some time. I think wang himself established that in the 60's. < 1522620496 401517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are Wang tiles TC even if they all have the same dimensions? < 1522620500 492722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm assuming yes < 1522620522 540236 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by having the same dimensions? < 1522620555 1373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, they're all 20×10 rectangles, for example < 1522620577 501594 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my understanding is that usually they're all squares < 1522620583 887735 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the same size < 1522620586 526828 :rain1!~rain1@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to be carefully chosen < 1522620591 402090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't Wang tiles normally all square same size? < 1522620600 505820 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only each edge has a colour and the touching edges are required to match. < 1522620606 321435 :rain1!~rain1@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway, my point was - it's already an esolang < 1522620617 489234 :rain1!~rain1@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're thinking of adding IO to it or something < 1522620629 743665 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain1: what is it called? < 1522620633 973333 :rain1!~rain1@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wang tiles < 1522620639 863419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adding a article into esolang wiki would help though anyways < 1522620643 6320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, 1×1 squares < 1522620645 375587 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see it in the wiki < 1522620717 132188 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I get your point that the concept of a wang tile has an interpretation that's tc, but I thought it would be neat to create a language that was more constrained than just general wang tiles that still retained tc < 1522620729 402989 :rain1!~rain1@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1522620745 463030 :rain1!~rain1@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you add IO to wang tiles < 1522620752 677905 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also an interesting question < 1522620758 977725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same way as in BIIA?, perhaps? < 1522620780 388077 :rain1!~rain1@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.esowiki BIIA? < 1522620793 586355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/But_Is_It_Art? < 1522620805 314363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1522620812 595171 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/But_Is_It_ArtF < 1522620815 98148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1522620818 451798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/But_Is_It_Art%F < 1522620823 995190 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/But_Is_It_Art%%F < 1522620827 714624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up < 1522620837 880417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently % then 3 is not a character combination I can send via this IRC client < 1522620858 492508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1522620877 779060 :rain1!~rain1@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1522620884 27318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because % is an escape character for the client < 1522620903 183596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and typing a string of % signs followed by 3 seems to discard the 3 regardless of how many % signs there are < 1522620919 621062 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use a different client or change the setting or modify the client? < 1522621036 281489 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my initial thought was to have a tape where each cell is occupied by a wang tile with the usual east west color constraint. each successive cell would be constrained on the south - north colors of the current and next step, respectively. the way turing machines are typically simulated with wang tiles. < 1522621083 578801 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of writing a full on 2d tiler, the interpreter would just run a line at a time and the programmer would be responsible for preventing nondeterminism < 1522621124 328883 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointless or interesting? < 1522621144 648040 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know; make it up and see < 1522621162 498409 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric : that's always my inclination, but I'm open to criticism :) < 1522621434 311369 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGIRL, dying... < 1522621791 271067 :augur!~augur@2600:380:462d:907b:406:c4cf:2e3:c012 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1522621825 231773 :augur!~augur@2600:380:462d:907b:406:c4cf:2e3:c012 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522622082 157925 :augur!~augur@2600:380:462d:907b:406:c4cf:2e3:c012 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds > 1522623249 831313 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Orby 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Tile 230.png10]]" < 1522623347 802924 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-118-37.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1522623602 766639 :danieljabailey!~danieljab@cpc75709-york6-2-0-cust725.7-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.6.5+deb2build2 - http://znc.in < 1522623619 729316 :danieljabailey!~danieljab@cpc75709-york6-2-0-cust725.7-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522623970 960499 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: /dev/null is full > 1522624470 751185 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Orby 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Rule 110 tiles.png10]]" > 1522624665 290945 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Orby 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Rule 110 simulation.png10]]" < 1522624733 326538 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-118-37.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522625287 335573 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522625446 846311 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522625460 460370 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no percent signs: https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?curid=11226 < 1522625492 314014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that works, but it's not very memorable < 1522625511 505468 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, ideally you should fix your environment so you can enter any url < 1522625527 729629 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because some other webpages might not have such alternatives < 1522625536 514279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I can in my browser > 1522625677 130855 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03CrazyM4n 5* 10moved [[02User:CrazyM4n10]] to [[User:Aearnus]]: Change of name < 1522625737 800532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't actually work < 1522625741 549516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not quite sure how to handle the attempt < 1522625812 770460 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what attempt? < 1522625822 833245 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1522625830 676810 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he tried to rename himself, but only renamed his userpage? > 1522625844 176867 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:CrazyM4n14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=54662 5* 03Ais523 5* (+412) 10about the attempted name change < 1522625855 631043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: right < 1522625861 392260 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=renameuser < 1522625914 80544 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh this is so easy! I don't have to check a union of the user foo and global user foo logs to find user foo events. convenience of a small wiki. < 1522625995 3489 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the Mediawiki wikis, some old history of user privilages seems to be impossible to query now < 1522626030 479190 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1522626035 388656 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite recall the details, but I wanted to check if someone was part of a privilaged usergroup many years ago, and even together with multiple logs I couldn't do it < 1522626076 770674 :Aearnus!~Aearnus@ip68-3-184-237.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522626087 136973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Aearnus < 1522626093 180353 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was the group for otrs volunteers < 1522626106 678251 :Aearnus!~Aearnus@ip68-3-184-237.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey ais523! it's been a long time since I've been here haha < 1522626126 750110 :Aearnus!~Aearnus@ip68-3-184-237.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw the message and I figured it'd just be easier to pop into the IRC < 1522626140 882503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1522626146 830957 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great! IRC works < 1522626153 222786 :arhellais!~rqceg@177.69.39.119 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522626167 777429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out the where the user renaming tool is, but am not sure what our requirements are for using it < 1522626178 725492 :Aearnus!~Aearnus@ip68-3-184-237.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool, i don't have anything I need to keep < 1522626181 119560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing's quite slow and heavy-weight so we can't use it all that often, not that we get many requests < 1522626193 514845 :Aearnus!~Aearnus@ip68-3-184-237.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I need to delete the User: page before I delete the account? < 1522626200 51541 :Aearnus!~Aearnus@ip68-3-184-237.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or can I just go ahead < 1522626201 283458 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aearnus: so you just create a new user? < 1522626204 866394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't delete accounts < 1522626207 979036 :arhellais!~rqceg@177.69.39.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :##llamas on irc.freenode.net is offering a 2 for 1 fried chicken nigger special. JOIN ##LLAMAS FOR MORE INFORMATION!! ASK FOR LETTY FOR DETAILS!! < 1522626209 755657 :Aearnus!~Aearnus@ip68-3-184-237.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1522626213 60343 :arhellais!~rqceg@177.69.39.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aearnus oerjan wob_jonas augur MDude danieljabailey orby rain1 sprocklem ais523 xkapastel imode1 LKoen brandonson tromp impomatic heroux Naergon Sgeo Lord_of_Life lambdabot ATMunn moei joast uplime idris-bot zzo38 optimus[m] copumpkin catern diginet b_jonas BooK_ relrod jix FireFly deltab < 1522626218 211944 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :ais523 < 1522626218 433905 :arhellais!~rqceg@177.69.39.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique myname erdic Deewiant dingbat Taneb sdhand aloril zemhill_ hakatashi1 j-bot staffehn FreeFull APic paul2520 Melvar newsham_ contrapumpkin shikhin Bowserinator Hoolootwo ocharles_ pikhq_ fungot` sparr Yurume_______ quintopia moony Slereah shachaf clog rodgort \oren\_ digitalcold < 1522626218 660204 :fungot`!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :arhellais: denote final continuation." hehe. :d :p < 1522626219 643889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 KICK #esoteric arhellais :I don't have a better default kick reason, but if you're being kicked, you should know why > 1522626227 449886 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hao14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=54663 5* 03Orby 5* (+2219) 10Submitting initial Hao page < 1522626229 512235 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1522626232 448358 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1522626235 297542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same spambot was doing that on QuakeNET < 1522626238 143009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or another spambot copying it) < 1522626241 966268 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :##llamas is my favorite channel :C < 1522626246 271288 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor ##llamas < 1522626248 839201 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1522626249 832447 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a good chat channel < 1522626252 539402 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aearnus: no, I'd say keep it as a redirect to the new userpage < 1522626257 393350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony: it's getting DOSed, I believe < 1522626257 968338 :ATMunn!ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1522626262 623321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by spambots trying to get people to join < 1522626263 462080 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that people can know who the old username refers to < 1522626264 121174 :Aearnus!~Aearnus@ip68-3-184-237.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: good idea < 1522626265 423275 :orby!44215a37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is anything particularly unclear about what I just wrote up? < 1522626266 548941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a reminder, don't click on spambot links < 1522626292 18879 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone requested a reset of my password from sv.wikipedia.org :P < 1522626337 958399 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think spambots can actually know why they're kicked, or much of anything. < 1522626350 938814 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so? ignore that. it's an unprivilaged operation to request a password reset. < 1522626362 480455 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens all the time to people everywhere on sites that offer password resets < 1522626366 454518 :jrabe!jrabe@janikrabe.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1522626380 33500 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it doses you out of real password resets or logins, ignore it > 1522626383 859178 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Aearnus 5* 10New user account < 1522626442 82574 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(come to think of it, most people can't delete user pages either, but we at least delete those on request; accounts can't be deleted at all because the server needs to track their edits and the like) < 1522626451 29416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can vanish accounts if necessary to anonymise all their contributions < 1522626494 105409 :Aearnus!~Aearnus@ip68-3-184-237.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I decided to log back on today bc I've been working on this https://github.com/aearnus/charm < 1522626518 488229 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it hasn't happened to me before. < 1522626595 505021 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unrelatedly, i got this great idea for a new unicode character: INVISIBLE SARCASM TAG < 1522626602 5494 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Wikipedia you can avoid to enter your email address, that way a password reset cannot be requested < 1522626648 332045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't it be more useful if it were visible? < 1522626649 814766 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, font designers would probably sabotage it by making it visible. < 1522626669 455863 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, the point is to prove you were sarcastic without ruining the style. < 1522626692 516231 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have a visible one too if you like, i guess. < 1522626700 902084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could use ⦞ < 1522626702 417016 :Aearnus!~Aearnus@ip68-3-184-237.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the canonical implementation would probably end up being the crying while laughing face :/ < 1522626707 48974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not very visible at small sizes < 1522626715 796621 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm still no HackEgo < 1522626723 85510 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`google ⦞ < 1522626725 282488 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1522626728 922450 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google ⦞ < 1522626731 210231 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.i18nqa.com/debug/utf8-debug.html < 1522626731 251140 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: UTF-8 Character Debug Tool < 1522626735 633222 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, what'd you do to hackego. pls reviv < 1522626736 715124 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1522626738 744029 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1522626740 876326 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not gregor oops < 1522626744 593488 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, < 1522626754 490656 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony: actually Gregor is the best at this point < 1522626764 418141 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1522626771 19997 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://unicode.scarfboy.com/?s=%E2%A6%9E < 1522626772 238760 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's fizzie btw < 1522626774 277044 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure fizzie has already done everything he can, since it's been gone for a while. < 1522626776 785127 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't seen them in a while < 1522626799 609895 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, he reported back about HackEgo < 1522626817 546801 :jrabe!jrabe@janikrabe.com PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1522626885 829371 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony: fizzie can do anything _on_ the server, but cannot actually control the isp's web(?) interface for fixing things. < 1522626900 699720 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only Gregor has access to that. < 1522626902 676000 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CaC is just proving that things can always get worse. < 1522626908 54900 :jrabe!jrabe@janikrabe.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1522627000 803447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the name is "ANGLE WITH S INSIDE", fwiw < 1522627003 566358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I haven't even seen the CaC web control panel, I'm just assuming they have one. < 1522627022 378488 :Ezma!~XRS1@2600:8801:903:fd00:2c8a:87c:2137:4c99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522627040 889779 :wob_jonas!b03f188d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it doesn't have a magical "fix the server" button for these cases though