00:01:07 I think that might be the reboot switch. 00:06:01 fizzie: btw, opinion on Hq9++fan? they've gone out of their way to antagonise the other active admins 00:06:11 so you're the only unbiased admin left to ask 00:07:52 fizzie: Hq9++fan is fixing double spacing after sentence end to single spacing 00:08:11 not just that 00:08:27 their main change seems to removing all the and tags from the wiki 00:08:30 ais523: sure, but we've reverted most of the rest, except in that brainfuck page 00:08:31 and edit-warring to get rid of them 00:09:24 I blocked them for 3RR after they reverted four different people on the same page 00:09:33 within 24 hours 00:11:58 I also wanted abuse filter 10 to be altered to look at the history, but apparently the MediaWiki abuse filter codes can't look at the history. 00:12:16 right, it'd be too much of a performance drain 00:12:46 you'd have to do that from an external async bot 00:12:52 fizzie: another thing Hq9++fan was doing was placing around a megabyte of whitespace into pages, e.g. the user talk pages of people they didn't like 00:13:13 what? I thought he did that only on his own userpage 00:13:14 I don't have an informed opinion, I've mostly been away. I just saw that really weird thing about a lot of spaces on the user page. 00:13:14 I went and did an old-fashioned revision delete on those so that it wouldn't spam the wiki backups 00:13:18 wob_jonas: that was for testing 00:13:26 trying to see how many were allowed 00:13:30 then he put them on other people's pages 00:13:37 That sounds like plain vandalism, though. 00:13:40 so he did get to do it elsewhere, I just never saw it because you censored it so quickly? 00:13:44 (as in, deleted revisions) 00:14:08 well, fizzie will know 00:14:47 wob_jonas: on ZM's user talk page 00:14:58 but in just one edit, rather than in about 20 like on Hq9++fan's own 00:15:01 oh! so that's why that was in the delete log 00:15:35 ah yes, you evne mentioned it in the delete reason 00:17:35 so that's why he transcluded {{User talk:ZM}} into your page 00:18:07 that, and also claiming that the transclusion was a warning as well so that I wasn't allowed to delete it 00:18:15 there's a substed/copied version on my user talk page atm 00:22:41 * oerjan doesn't feel that biased :( 00:22:46 [[Hao]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54664&oldid=54663 * Orby * (+37) /* Tiles */ 00:23:29 oerjan: nor do I 00:23:36 FireFly: hexd looks cool 00:23:47 also, i assume if he manages to insult all of us somehow (unlikely given how little fizzie does), we can still make an unanimous decision. 00:23:53 or the like. 00:24:07 s/does/edits/ 00:24:25 or we could ask Keymaker :P 00:24:27 [[Hao]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54665&oldid=54664 * Orby * (-2) /* Tiles */ 00:24:28 izabera: it's handy, I can't go back to non-colourised hexdumps now, heh 00:24:37 I should put the vim syntax file I have in that repo too, maybe 00:24:53 * ais523 vaguely wonders why replacing an emdash in a range with an endash would cause someone to be drunk 00:24:57 izabera: idly curious where you came across it though 00:25:28 ais523: maybe it looks identical to a hyphen in his font 00:25:54 friend of mine starred it 00:26:06 ah 00:26:20 Okay, I reviewed some of the "User contributions" page to have a little more informed opinion. I agree that a lot of it is very disruptive, and even the more reasonable edits (like adding Category:Turing complete to Category:Turing tarpits pages) are pretty arguable. 00:27:03 ais523: it doesn't *cause* them to be drunk, it's a sign that they were already drunkk 00:27:26 . o O ( like that doulbe kk ) 00:27:48 doulbe kk? 00:28:00 . o O ( i saw my own typo but considered it hypocritical to fix it ) 00:28:06 wob_jonas: drunkk hth 00:28:19 er 00:28:25 -!- Cale has joined. 00:28:36 * oerjan hasn't drunk alcohol since December, he swears 00:29:02 haha 00:29:33 oerjan: were you involved in relativistic acceleration or strange timezones so that December was a few days ago from your perspective? 00:29:54 izabera: you might also enjoy pixd, although I'd say hexd is waaay more practical/useful personally 00:29:55 not that i recall. 00:30:00 people seemed to like pixd though 00:30:05 whats pixd? 00:30:16 https://github.com/FireyFly/pixd 00:30:22 like hexd but with more blocks and less hex 00:30:25 oooo 00:30:35 also, more colours 00:30:37 I haven't drunk alcohol for years 00:30:39 or were you perhaps drunk with power? 00:30:51 i just killed a bottle of crown royal on thursday 00:30:52 -!- ais523 has set channel mode: -o ais523. 00:31:13 I haven't drunk alcohol in 25 years!* (* trace amounts of alcohol exempt) 00:31:34 hey, how do you do code formatting on the wiki? 00:31:40 ive been 10 years sober 00:31:44 Aearnus: there are three ways: 00:31:45 not like in a row or anything 00:31:47 just total 00:31:51 a) , used for inline code 00:31:52 I'm quite sure I've drunk alcohol in January, because it's a tradition to drink the champange at New Year's day after the anthem after midnight 00:32:09 b) starting each line with a leading space, used for multiline code that otherwise obeys wikimarkup rules 00:32:20 c) 
, used for multiline code which should be shown literally
00:32:29  alright, thanks!
00:32:50  [[Hao]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54666&oldid=54665 * Orby * (+11) 
00:32:50  wob_jonas: I was in Hungary for new years once
00:32:54  FireFly: is that just like adding a small header and interpreting some file as a pbm picture?
00:32:57  indenting with space still disables a few forms of wiki markup though, and mostly the easiest ones
00:32:58  so got to listen to all the hungarians present singing the anthem
00:33:19  ais523: I actually wasn't in Hungary this time. for the very first time, we spent Christmas to New Year at my brothers' in Sweden.
00:33:21  note that MediaWiki uses one leading space (unlike Markdown, which uses four)
00:33:22  izabera: no
00:33:47  but with the magic of the internet, I still got to watch the anthem and the speech of the president of the republic on TV
00:34:05 * FireFly digs up the palette it uses
00:34:46  izabera: https://twitter.com/FireyFly/status/867017529042100224  <- it maps each byte to a colour according to this table
00:34:51  singing the anthem is optional by the way, the important tradition is to listen to it while standing and holding the champagne glasses so you can say cheers to everyone around with it and then drink right after it ends
00:35:14  the idea is that the hue corresponds to the high nibble, and the value to the low nibble... and the hue range was tweaked a bit to make different "interesting" ranges fall into different colours
00:35:21  so that e.g. printable ASCII stands out
00:35:38  also, making null bytes black, etc
00:36:07  there's some other examples in that therad too
00:36:35  Well... pixd does allow you to define your own colour map, but that's the default/hardcoded one
00:36:53  [[User talk:CrazyM4n]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54667&oldid=54662 * Fizzie * (+521) /* Attempted name change */ Current (de-facto) policy.
00:36:58  pixd seems very useful
00:37:17  Honestly, I find it more useful to just use a coloured hexdump most of the time
00:37:30  for picking out patterns and stuff
00:37:34  I guess it depends on the purpose
00:37:44  I mostly hexdump binary files when reversing file formats
00:37:45  I don't like colored anything
00:38:00  have you packaged it for apt or anything of the sort?
00:38:41  it's pretty but how is it useful?
00:38:51  getting a quick overview of filetypes
00:38:54  visual comparison
00:39:07  fun?
00:39:45  that was the idea when trying it out, yeah
00:40:05  to see if it'd be useful for finding patterns/similarities in formats
00:40:58  Aearnus: I've packaged it for NixOS, but I think pixd got packaged in some other distros too..
00:41:13  not debian
00:41:18  but mstly liek pentesting/security ones
00:41:22  either way i've installed it. cool stuff.
00:41:23  mostly like*
00:44:57  It's also definitely useful for uncompressed indexed bitmaps, but that's ... quite an edgecase I guess :P
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00:53:56  [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54668&oldid=54656 * Aearnus * (+217) Added Aearnus
00:55:00  [[Charm]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=54669 * Aearnus * (+4632) Creation of the Charm page for the Charm (eso)lang
00:57:38  πŸ‘πŸ‘ there it is
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01:00:58  Aearnus: on which continent are you? does this still count as an april fool announcement?
01:12:37  wob_jonas: it's still april fool's here haha
01:13:01  but no i didn't have anything good planned for april fool's day sadly :(
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01:17:46  & I also can't tell if that was a compliment or an insult
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01:24:31  I'd actually really appreciate feedback on Charm -- it's the largest project that I've worked on to date
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01:47:53  [[Hao]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54670&oldid=54666 * Orby * (+118) /* Tiles */
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01:50:51  [[Hao]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54671&oldid=54670 * Orby * (-8) 
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01:52:39  `bobadventureslist http://bobadventures.comicgenesis.com/d/20180401.html
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02:36:13  [[Main Page]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54672&oldid=53552 * LyricLy * (+169) 
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03:05:00  [[Main Page]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54673&oldid=54672 * Oerjan * (-52) Why? It works just fine!
03:12:46  [[Main Page]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54674&oldid=54673 * LyricLy * (+0) 
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04:13:45  Triangular Wang tiles are also Turing complete. You can split the squares into triangles, although additional colours may be required.
04:53:09  What shapes are not turing complete?
04:56:02  I don't know?
04:58:02  penises don't look very turing complete
04:58:27  You need to choose a shape that can be tiled.
04:59:05  well it's not my fault if your penis can't be tiled
05:00:02  One dimension shapes will not make it Turing complete.
05:08:37  izabera: have you looked at cockfuck hth
05:08:56  [[Bitwise Cyclic Tag]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54676&oldid=54642 * Hq9++fan * (-334) undo bot
05:09:27  *poof*
05:09:53  [[Malbolge]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54677&oldid=54644 * Hq9++fan * (-10) only a dumb person would call that a fix
05:10:20  [[]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54678&oldid=54645 * Hq9++fan * (-27) no
05:10:33  [[Talk:Apple3.14]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54679&oldid=54646 * Hq9++fan * (-11) nope...
05:10:34  [[Special:Log/block]] block  * Oerjan *  blocked [[User:Hq9++fan]] with an expiration time of 3 days (account creation disabled): Inserting nonsense/gibberish into pages: Being really annoying and not taking a hint.
05:11:08  sometimes you _need_ a little bias.
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05:16:03  [[Bitwise Cyclic Tag]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54680&oldid=54676 * Oerjan * (+334) Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Hq9++fan|Hq9++fan]] ([[User talk:Hq9++fan|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:B jonas|B jonas]]
05:16:28  [[Malbolge]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54681&oldid=54677 * Oerjan * (+10) Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Hq9++fan|Hq9++fan]] ([[User talk:Hq9++fan|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Zzo38|Zzo38]]
05:16:58  [[]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54682&oldid=54678 * Oerjan * (+27) Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Hq9++fan|Hq9++fan]] ([[User talk:Hq9++fan|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:B jonas|B jonas]]
05:17:13  [[Talk:Apple3.14]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54683&oldid=54679 * Oerjan * (+11) Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Hq9++fan|Hq9++fan]] ([[User talk:Hq9++fan|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:B jonas|B jonas]]
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07:32:38  fungot, wake up HackEgo
07:32:38  wob_jonas: any code yet?
07:32:48  fungot: nope, sorry
07:32:49  wob_jonas: ( i'm afraid i'm a little displeased with up-from and a negative list l is converted to a ieee decimal representation ( the nearest possible number such that blah blah blah blah
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08:00:28  [ ((26<.?$~40){32,~97+i.26){a.
08:00:29  wob_jonas: jlbe xx fe  k   u  qn  m wf r c tkdv    
08:01:31  @djinn jlbe xx fe k u qn m wf r c tkdv
08:01:31  -- f cannot be realized.
08:01:43  @pl jlbe xx fe k u qn m wf r c tkdv
08:01:43  jlbe xx fe k u qn m wf r c tkdv
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08:32:53  fungot, are you a pirate?
08:32:53  wob_jonas: os x...
08:33:00  ah
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12:46:32  web.dsadsa: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47
12:47:37  Hmm. There's some odd non-bfjousty characters in that program.
12:48:15  Also the first command is "<", which seems counterproductive.
13:05:46  [[Alfie]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54684&oldid=54655 * Singingbanana * (+853) 
13:06:33  [[Alfie]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54685&oldid=54684 * Singingbanana * (+2) 
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17:37:02  yay for caches that store irretrievable data
17:38:02  yay
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21:47:53  [[Main Page]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54686&oldid=54675 * LyricLy * (-13) fix link
21:48:32  [[Main Page]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54687&oldid=54686 * LyricLy * (+8) 
21:55:49  aww. Hackego is still dead
21:55:53 * moony puts down the botsnacks
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21:58:04 * boily botsnacks mhelloony
21:58:22  now I'm worried about poisonous botsnacks
21:58:53  int-e: I guess the cache is better than nothing at all? 
21:59:10  fizzie: it was fine until somebody flushed it!
22:00:44  https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/14994 has some details
22:01:39  (And this may mean that I won't update lambdabot (which needs mueval -> hint -> the ghc API) to ghc-8.4.1, though I still haven't made up my mind about that.)
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