< 1522973211 812181 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :new job? < 1522973221 643692 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its getting warm here < 1522973231 313849 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar katl < 1522973232 227069 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 052352Z 19003KT 10SM BKN250 17/M01 A3011 RMK AO2 SLP196 T01721011 10189 20167 55004 < 1522973766 291819 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :started last week! < 1522973768 438766 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1522973769 116474 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 060000Z 26012G18KT 15SM FEW065 FEW240 M03/M15 A3000 RMK CF1CI1 CF TR CI TR SLP163 < 1522973873 737676 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the job? < 1522973958 121922 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :backend dev for POS products, doing big data stuff ^^ < 1522974360 399163 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds very corporate < 1522974387 318967 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :when had we decided to game? < 1522974513 628269 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is corporate and I work on a mac. bletch. < 1522974534 830271 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but freen breakfast, including bagels, and quality coffee! < 1522974568 983975 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeh... I think Sunday? < 1522974596 525844 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I won't be there for the next two weekends. can we after that? < 1522974984 441870 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1522975003 100251 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are your thoughts on seth andrews < 1522975006 205589 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1522975057 840861 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: who is seth andrews? < 1522975060 201493 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hezzo38. < 1522975289 641235 :Aearnus!~Aearnus@ip68-3-184-237.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522975486 661376 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: after wikipédying him, I can't say I'm leaning one way or another. I need more context and history. < 1522976160 96182 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522976457 976673 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1522976466 479594 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1522976548 343831 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1522976553 452872 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnight < 1522976559 754636 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :night! < 1522976633 42108 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boena sirjana. < 1522976677 916536 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, gott kvørjanld.) < 1522977120 510203 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :biensoarly < 1522977123 963294 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue NICK :Hooloovo0 < 1522977294 867716 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is not sure we really want to encourage user pages redirecting to chinese wikipedia < 1522977363 804492 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people do that? < 1522977364 249779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pages probably should not redirect to external pages < 1522977529 483341 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : zombie, new job, nice pay and proximity to chinese food. <-- wait, are you no longer making the world boring < 1522977538 566661 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: see latest wiki edit < 1522977612 20792 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is indeed the case! < 1522977612 915057 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*keeping < 1522977628 54391 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1522977832 828970 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1522977849 802283 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloony. < 1522978151 279859 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1522978151 845764 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 060050Z 30015KT 6000 -SN VV012 01/M00 Q1001 RMK WIND 670FT 31022KT < 1522978157 345939 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been snowing again < 1522978225 606980 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same. < 1522978511 191279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1522978512 32436 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 060120Z AUTO 13009KT 9999 NCD 04/02 Q1016 NOSIG < 1522978520 607834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's going to snow any more. < 1522978758 868546 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:oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another day, another Girl Genius non-comic < 1522989714 35896 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that Zoing card has a typo < 1522990531 155258 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522990822 205790 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1522991606 885168 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1522991616 160315 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Maybe we'll get a comic on monday < 1522991639 377555 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not < 1522992065 244311 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1522994197 359343 :augur_!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1522994318 762130 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1522994618 676108 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:kritixilithos!~kritixili@unaffiliated/kritixilithos QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1523012413 220079 :wob_jonas!b03f1802@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you know a superhero with weather control powers available for hire to help with outdoors photography? < 1523012413 698907 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: i made some excellent wild greens gumbo yesterday, with things like libc. < 1523012453 330251 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tjuvkmyhznrbeucb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1523012568 729543 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@152.115.47.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523012574 663150 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@152.115.47.142 QUIT :Changing host < 1523012574 696568 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@unaffiliated/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric < 1523012894 236254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cooking with libc" is fungot's new book. < 1523012894 372114 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i had to write a function < 1523013650 699767 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@unaffiliated/kritixilithos QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1523013674 721367 :wob_jonas!b03f1802@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.2 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1523014290 231533 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@152.115.47.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523014296 32568 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@152.115.47.142 QUIT :Changing host < 1523014296 65951 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@unaffiliated/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric < 1523014986 487009 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball will HackEgo return? < 1523014986 622463 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1523014994 528222 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's so optimistic < 1523014994 994546 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i am very sorry for this silly question... but what do i gain access to all the elements ( procedure and args alike) are evaluated, right? < 1523016544 997085 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@unaffiliated/kritixilithos QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1523019631 314276 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523019768 663230 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1523019916 786515 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I've been looking at setting up an instance on the wiki host. < 1523020021 267755 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we allowed to? < 1523020068 323764 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it falls within the general scope of "promoting esoteric language development", though admittedly there's a lot that's completely frivolous. < 1523020144 109577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I do it, I think I'd like to upgrade the second-level sandboxing (the thing where hackbot itself runs, outside the umlbox) from a chroot to something more modern. Been looking at systemd-nspawn, Docker and LXC. < 1523020291 976313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(TBH, given that it's such a kludge almost by definition, maybe CaC is a more appropriate ecology for it to live on. Maybe I should properly ping Gregor to see if there's anything pokeable in there first.) < 1523020805 891029 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't want a ton of dependencies... so ended up with http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/mueval.c which may be a bit too low-level. < 1523020834 657935 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note the wonderful hardcoded uid and gid) < 1523020907 795545 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/sandbox is statically populated with a few read-only bind mounts) < 1523021003 48937 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/fstab.txt < 1523021044 364249 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, docker was too big for me... and I didn't look too hard for alternatives. < 1523021481 392867 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a "real" Linux in the container (because of all those HackEgo commands), but I haven't yet decided whether that should be via read-only bind mounts from the host, or as an entirely separate installation. < 1523021514 642346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The current HackEgo chroot is the latter, a debootstrap chroot that ~never gets any upgrades done.) < 1523021632 490685 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricky, I think I'd like a separate installation but some way of updating it whenever the main system is updated... < 1523021680 241256 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but the latter seems hard so I'd probably end up in the current situation as well :P < 1523021701 835758 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making it a real (though minimal) independent system means I'd need to figure out how to get it under my usual configuration management and monitoring infrastructure, which kind of assumes there's at least sshd running inside it. < 1523021708 836704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is of course doable but seems a little silly. < 1523022028 902912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, if it's the hackbot process launched with a fs namespace that has read-only binds, it doesn't need any of that, but it would have (read-only but still) access to a lot of stuff it really has no business looking at. < 1523023707 237766 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1523023826 888936 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the latter would really want me to have a separate installation < 1523023855 495615 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe can you make a direct-to-chroot ssh account on the outer system? < 1523023896 247482 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some variation on http://allanfeid.com/content/creating-chroot-jail-ssh-access perhaps < 1523023937 230377 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you could ssh into the sandbox without actually having an sshd in the sandbox < 1523024930 272348 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm. With just the sshd_config ChrootDirectory option, it'd be running without the other namespaces. But maybe I could instead use ForceCommand to do whatever is necessary to execute the command line in the sandbox. I know at least systemd-nspawn has a "machinectl shell" and systemd-run for running commands inside. < 1523025428 761905 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zex1glfa1xy3qc.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1523027766 647957 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I was thinking that it's for maintenance, maybe the full sandboxing wouldn't be required. < 1523027830 56045 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess that means you do not get your own user namespace which may be desirable. < 1523028537 702388 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1523028651 369624 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523029492 398902 :grumblr!~grumble@freenode/staff/grumble JOIN :#esoteric < 1523029509 808352 :grumble!~grumble@freenode/staff/grumble NICK :Guest46633 < 1523029509 912662 :Guest46633!~grumble@freenode/staff/grumble QUIT :Killed (leguin.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)) < 1523029509 946097 :grumblr!~grumble@freenode/staff/grumble NICK :grumble < 1523030045 326139 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wkuuumhceidhrenq JOIN :#esoteric < 1523030290 697215 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:b093:a290:ea26:962a JOIN :#esoteric < 1523031714 67131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: On the plus side, it means you wouldn't need to poke a hole for apt-get networking in the sandbox, so maybe it'd be fine. < 1523031777 152466 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1523033654 590931 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-081-098.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1523034039 873574 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-081-098.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1523034192 877372 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1523036214 104833 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting < 1523036312 701802 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1523036512 920261 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.chosenbun.com/ < 1523036517 366494 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are goood < 1523037018 75523 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, that's nearby < 1523037045 588349 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might try that tonight < 1523037056 593101 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: of course you could have two sandbox setups ... I mean while we're thinking about potentially overengineering everything. < 1523037614 542150 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:b093:a290:ea26:962a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1523037738 749439 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1523037826 675842 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wkuuumhceidhrenq QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1523038980 195998 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1523039050 915362 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I have ordered a Chosen Bun < 1523040010 820193 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's nearby < 1523040032 557687 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't you just go there < 1523040079 325546 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1523040085 684277 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've ran out of data on my phone, don't have internet at home, and I'm getting some with one of my workmates < 1523040437 312402 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-euuhqsurvnhkpjta JOIN :#esoteric < 1523040547 558441 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you run out of feet as well? < 1523040923 881163 :wob_jonas!b03f18c6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.198 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523041041 532721 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it would seem < 1523041123 548838 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can imagine outrunning your feet (painful aftermath), but how does one run out of feet... < 1523041368 722321 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1523042199 102677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, there's one in Fulham as well. < 1523042489 502045 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't appreciate this website changing the cursor so that it doesn't indicate what's clickable and what's not. < 1523042898 704816 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add your own CSS codes if needed. I use the Stylish extension to add my own CSS codes to what is already there. (And, less often, I also use GreaseMonkey to add additional JavaScript codes too) < 1523043166 322978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is what I have always done to deal with these kind of problems < 1523043220 866869 :wob_jonas!b03f18c6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: if you injure one feet, you can do certain movements by using the other feet and carefully protecting the injured feet. but you can also injure both feet, at which point you've ran out of feet. < 1523043361 813167 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm is it "one feet, two feet, red feet, blue feet" now? < 1523044048 845280 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1523044129 705361 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523044866 722571 :wob_jonas!b03f18c6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.198 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1523045052 771859 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:ae29:3aff:fee8:b414 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523045157 763942 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1523047151 693043 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1523047264 382208 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1523047612 176628 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1523049175 659695 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:fb8b:fb15:c1d3:a33a JOIN :#esoteric < 1523049175 881564 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:fb8b:fb15:c1d3:a33a QUIT :Changing host < 1523049175 881610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1523049413 356302 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-euuhqsurvnhkpjta QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1523049891 210110 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf NICK :MoonyTheDwarf < 1523050623 684615 :augur!~augur@45.34.140.45 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523050715 370796 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have now disconnected the old hard drive in my computer (to save power) < 1523051067 744418 :augur!~augur@45.34.140.45 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1523051674 164288 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523052926 528331 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-emechcdsyiiwjiaj JOIN :#esoteric < 1523053191 298593 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one idea of new Magic: the Gathering card which is: "You may cast target permanent." < 1523054067 723198 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1523054285 538914 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:ae29:3aff:fee8:b414 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1523054792 823895 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-118-37.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopher://vernunftzentrum.de/0/ckeen/ciy-manifesto.txt < 1523055291 633686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is true, and often I do code it by myself. Although the other two things are also possible, if the change is simple enough and/or other suitable software exists. Even if you do write it by yourself sometime it help to take a small pieces from other program codes too, although sometimes that is unnecessary or it just work better to do by yourself. < 1523055331 482395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If each program does one thing well, then is less likely that the goal will be diverged. It also makes it simpler in case you wish to use part of their codes in your own program. < 1523055740 886449 :a_!626ec884@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.110.200.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523055908 149145 :a_!626ec884@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.110.200.132 NICK :TriMill < 1523055932 676274 :TriMill!626ec884@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.110.200.132 QUIT :Client Quit < 1523056228 912129 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1523056371 371341 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1523056644 901756 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1523056668 719268 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1523057971 518428 :lynn!uid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rklgtsjkhzslpruv JOIN :#esoteric