< 1524355836 449569 :wob_jonas!b03f18d4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.212 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1524356810 202130 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1524356916 257314 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1524356986 219974 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1524360409 256773 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1524361834 430584 :LKoen_!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1524362075 682955 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1524363041 505841 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1524363299 822334 :HelloShitty972!~jklnpz@1.20.165.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1524363455 859448 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can make up a Magic: the Gathering card: Target opponent draws X cards, and then you gain life equal to twice the number of cards in that opponent's hand. < 1524363936 297089 :moei!~moei@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1524364277 984192 :HelloShitty972!~jklnpz@1.20.165.222 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1524364423 227838 :moei!~moei@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1524364627 134924 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should be the name and mana cost do you think? < 1524368007 207808 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1524377354 759524 :Cale!~cale@CPEf48e38ee8583-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: heh, too bad there's no symbol for "X white phyrexian mana" < 1524377494 979903 :Cale!~cale@CPEf48e38ee8583-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That seems like it would be super broken) < 1524378289 511752 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1524380039 44058 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't lifegain generally considered not good? And drawing cards to be very good? Maybe if you're about to lose this could buy a little time at a steep cost < 1524380145 914751 :Cale!~cale@CPEf48e38ee8583-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Oh, I mean my variant of it which would use an arbitrary amount of phyrexian mana, so you could pay with all but one of your life and make your opponent draw a significant fraction of their deck, which they would lose to hand size restrictions. < 1524380167 761042 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1524380209 203012 :Cale!~cale@CPEf48e38ee8583-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and then you immediately gain more than that amount of life back after) < 1524380306 246100 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How good life gain is depends on the circumstances, like with other things. If you have many things that cost a lot of life points or that damage you or cause you to lose life, then is good to use them in a deck with a lot of life gain. < 1524380448 912342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't win the game by gaining a lot of life points (unless you have a card that says you do), nor do you win the game by drawing a lot of cards (and if you run out because you draw too many, you lose), although depending what the card that you draw is it might help you to win. And if you are damaged by opponent's cards a lot, then having many life points may give you more time to set up what you need. < 1524380483 269130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regardless of how many cards you draw though, you can't use them if you do not have enough mana. < 1524380507 411040 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I think, lifegain is not always "not good" nor is drawing cards always "very good"; it depends on the circumstances. < 1524380525 702544 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And, then, there are also triggers and replacement effects.) < 1524380725 288673 :Cale!~cale@CPEf48e38ee8583-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, nevermind, that idea is not nearly as broken as I originally was thinking (for some reason when I wrote that I was thinking you'd make them draw as many cards as you were paying life, but it's half as much) < 1524380889 457277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is correct, it is half as much. < 1524381244 724185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the X cost should not be Phyrexian, although you may need more than one X in the cost possibly < 1524381324 403081 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WotC seems to be allergic to Y and Z costs < 1524381374 463266 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://scryfall.com/card/btd/37 was printed with a Y cost. Errata'd to not have a Y cost. < 1524381417 891505 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I guess that's not the original printing. Maybe they reworded it just for that beatdown box thing? < 1524381457 519924 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh so they briefly changed it then changed it back https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/return-fireball-2004-01-26 < 1524381580 217512 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, although this spell I proposed doesn't use Y and Z, only X < 1524381652 750227 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, that was a bit of a tangent on my part < 1524381666 64878 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1524381760 254512 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There are many things that WotC doesn't want to do that I still would want to do in custom cards, though.) < 1524381768 125202 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That includes banding, too.) < 1524382160 702018 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1524382291 450707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do have some article about if you make custom cards, and details about what they will do making the official ones, and some things I agree, such as that you shouldn't use the same name as an official card. < 1524382323 697438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I do have two exceptions to that case, which are: [1] If the AST of the new card matches that of the official card with the same name. 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:Melvar!~melvar@dslb-002-203-057-113.002.203.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1524415683 104863 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-002-203-057-113.002.203.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1524416166 490395 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1524416434 890071 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:c8e7:ec48:cbd6:6c6d JOIN :#esoteric < 1524417192 905859 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-002-203-057-113.002.203.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1524417216 70853 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-002-203-057-113.002.203.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1524417441 385971 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1524418540 482068 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1524419091 486210 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-002-203-057-113.002.203.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1524419118 829715 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-002-203-057-113.002.203.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1524419917 950268 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1524420267 107856 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1524420327 532579 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1524420347 878104 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1524420381 464688 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you know how I asked for compositing modes where you choose both a Duff-Porter operator and an operator to combine the color values, which your ff-utils and svg can do? It seems that gimp-2.10 can now do some of that as operations between layers. It doesn't do all meaningful combinations, sadly, but still does some of the ones you couldn't h < 1524420381 604700 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ave easily done before. < 1524420527 119375 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 QUIT :Client Quit < 1524420758 181351 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1524420764 157256 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically if you disable the compatibility layer composition setting, then you can open the layer properties menu to choose both the composite mode and, for the regular composite modes where it's meaningful, a duff-porter mode, the latter one called "composite mode". < 1524420869 302289 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the duff-porter mode, you can choose Over, Atop, DstAtop, In; but you can't choose Out or DstOut or Xor even though sometimes it would be meaningful and different from the ones you can choose. < 1524420931 493263 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a special composition mode for doing the DstOut duff-porter composition, but you can't combine that with a value composition mode like multiply or screen. You need an extra layer if you want that. < 1524420988 186777 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I learned of some useful value composition modes, most usefully the ones that gimp call "grain merge" and "grain extract", which add and subtract the color values respectively, but subtract or add 1/2 to the result. < 1524421022 427894 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does SVG have that operation? I'd like to have it for fixing up some details in lossy compressed images. < 1524421340 437856 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In addition to the value composition mode and the duff-porter mode, there are two per-layer composition settings that tell which numeric color value model is used for the formula in the value composition operator and the mask/opacity/alpha composition operations. < 1524421464 125873 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, so the log webpage uses only ten different colors for highlighting nicks? that means I can brute-force it to find a nick that gives me the best color. < 1524421631 802742 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, does this code determine the color solely from the nick, and it's case-sensitive? let me try to simulate that then < 1524421785 849567 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yes to both. < 1524421800 380279 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want this green color with the class h3 < 1524421806 385725 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me compute that < 1524421853 703965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the `h = 31 * h + c` hash function over the string, and then % 10. < 1524421933 648439 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: not quite, it's also truncated to 32-bit in each step < 1524421933 744696 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least if I read the source correctly < 1524421946 155150 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes a difference for non-short nicks I think < 1524422112 656130 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, makes a difference for nicks as long as mine < 1524422209 317563 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1524422299 891257 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1524422346 435925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes. < 1524422532 777536 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1524422547 288445 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hi < 1524422562 716833 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn, there's a parity problem. I can only change to the five even-numbered colors by changing the case of the letters in my nick. I have to change something else. < 1524422572 895084 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: see the logs above about image composition < 1524422588 459926 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I will look. < 1524422682 441899 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 NICK :lob_jonas < 1524422700 815169 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see like this. now I should be .h3 saturated green < 1524422709 435517 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that worked < 1524422759 220987 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is there a feature where users can explicitly override there color? is there already some standard for communicating this to other clients on irc? < 1524422812 932950 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1524422936 807740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so, at least for the implementations of nick coloring I know of. < 1524422940 19641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you show the equation of the composition modes you want? Currently I know neither whether SVG nor Farbfeld Utilities has it (I haven't checked), but I can add it. < 1524422957 54780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are avatars in IRCv3. < 1524422963 750491 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1524422969 752784 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I know that farbfeld utilities has it < 1524422993 479829 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, are you asking about the grain merge and grain extract? < 1524422997 403149 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check farbfeld utilities < 1524422998 583792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://ircv3.net/ "What We’re Working On" "Client avatars for display in graphical clients" I think it was that. < 1524423229 846909 :augur!~augur@199-241-201-187.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1524423285 81122 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the equations would be (s+d-32768) for grain merge; and (d-s+32768) for grain extract < 1524423292 809817 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see also https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/gimp-concepts-layer-modes.html < 1524423324 723703 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, it might be possible to use other modes for a similar purpose < 1524423357 762454 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but these are at least simple to define and implement efficiently < 1524423480 954261 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1524423493 18058 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: eww. I hate that project. but yes, that's the correct answer, thanks. < 1524423549 854572 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1524423562 248576 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think ff-compose doesn't have grain merge and grain extract < 1524423592 684121 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, then I will add those modes. < 1524423660 976057 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1524423750 322698 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I added them. < 1524423850 373361 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1524424099 541692 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another useful thing I learned about in gimp is the displace map filter. The inputs for this are a main image and two black-and-white images, and it moves the pixels of the main image such that each pixel is taken from close to the original location, with horz and vert displacements given by the values in the two masks at that pixel. This isn't new < 1524424099 745190 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric : in gimp 2.10, although the anti-aliasing settings for it are new. < 1524424149 462170 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1524424473 693191 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hard light mode might be also usable for that svg composition thing, I think. < 1524424618 329196 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: thanks for adding them < 1524424636 966977 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1524424878 201663 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zex1glfa1xy3qc.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1524424911 586974 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGIRL, dying... < 1524425025 483409 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1524425145 46155 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: /dev/null is full < 1524425609 615650 :optimus[m]!optimusmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zudmhooitjiylciv JOIN :#esoteric < 1524426005 91231 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1524426389 485410 :copumpkin!copumpkinm@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1524426488 816433 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1524426704 447544 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: perhaps http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/farbfeld.ui/wiki?name=Frequently+Asked+Questions should tell how to create a new image with uniform color-alpha values of any size. this isn't trivial, because ff-chess will only create chessboards with square shaped fields, ff-gradient requires you to input the color twice (as two command-line argumen < 1524426704 523051 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ts). < 1524426724 766783 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either that, or add a simple program/script that does this. < 1524426785 20043 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1524426930 779172 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know from practice that creating a solid image is a very common operation, because I keep doing that in gimp and ImageMagick. < 1524427163 665013 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like exec ff-gradient "$1" "$2" h "$3" "$3" < 1524427203 654038 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though as an alternative it might take the r g b a values as separate arguments < 1524427268 661567 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could make up a separate program for that if you really need it, I suppose; then you can have them as separate arguments or as a single argument. < 1524427278 420032 :augur!~augur@199-241-201-187.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1524427292 683702 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1524427308 681787 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that part is less important than not having to enter the color twice. even if gradient just had a mode for solid color taking only one color value, it would be better than now. < 1524427330 957478 :augur!~augur@199-241-201-187.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1524427336 352178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1524427979 887376 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I decided to just add a separate program "ff-blank" to make a blank picture with a solid colour. < 1524427996 837411 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1524428014 795823 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile I'm reading the ff-composite program, and will try to edit the wiki to describe it a bit better < 1524428077 630296 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1524428084 420078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1524428210 267912 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1524428261 332338 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The solid image is important because ff-compose starts with a background image, rather than a blank canvas of a specified size < 1524428289 196212 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1524428436 950979 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, apparently I also have to document ff-matrix < 1524428447 574970 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, do that too if you want to < 1524428466 424116 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ff-composite first. That's more important because the program is complicated. < 1524428562 606260 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1524428575 979660 :fractal!fractal@unaffiliated/scounder NICK :Guest15545 < 1524428753 498009 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@160-7-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1524428914 80135 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1524429060 599389 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, this ff-blank should work. and if you want a solid image the same size as another image, you can use (ff-blank $(ff-info <"$fname") "$color") . that is sometimes useful if you want to do a simple image color transformation with ff-composite. < 1524429109 164515 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have two comments about your external link webpages. My Farbfeld Utilities is listed on the green page even though it seem to me the brown page seems more appropriate (together with ImageMagick, GIMP, G'MIC, etc). Also, on the red page underneath "TV Tropes" you may wish to add All The Tropes too (at https://allthetropes.org/) < 1524429146 102679 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lob_jonas: Yes you can; I didn't think of that but of course you are correct; an example could be added if anyone wants that I suppose < 1524429204 590424 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, GatheringMagic has a puzzle every week too; I look at them, and sometimes even manage to solve them.) < 1524429295 893523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(O, and the forum for Magic: the Gathering is no longer available) < 1524429349 733028 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, I'm a bit behind maintaining that link collection < 1524429363 614510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1524429394 159671 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend the GatheringMagic forum for M:tG instead, but I don't know if wizards employees read that < 1524429418 79337 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1524429529 202183 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder if you can cause undefined behavior in some of the ff-utils by putting a negative number in the width and height field of the images < 1524429550 293957 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or with an overflow in addition or subtraction of coordinates < 1524429621 677446 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zex1glfa1xy3qc.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1524429631 815459 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the process function of ff-composite.c in particular < 1524429639 283033 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I some cases it checks, but I do not remember about all of the cases < 1524429657 336275 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :give very large or negative coordinates, then cause either an integer overflow, or indexing out of the array < 1524429725 810121 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, even simpler. in ff-composite.c:main, width*height can overflow an integer < 1524429758 6914 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to open a ticket < 1524429900 251287 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1524430192 793179 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm wait < 1524430296 458759 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1524430338 838814 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo48: in ff-composite.c:process, even if all the sizes and coordinates are small, I don't understand how the code works when the source image is partly outside the dest image. it doesn't seem right. < 1524430378 424151 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, I don't see a code path that discards some of the pixels of the source image. < 1524430400 167871 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1524430402 30653 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ^ < 1524430405 598502 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is wrong, I can fix it. It is possible I made a mistake < 1524430437 870648 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I see < 1524430450 511849 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you discard pixels in two separate short loops of fgetc < 1524430502 962986 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try to understand how those calculations work < 1524431061 962018 :augur!~augur@199-241-201-187.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1524431204 44286 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1524431329 402668 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@160-7-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1524431366 173905 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1524431380 273763 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ok, I think the calculations are correct < 1524431414 417086 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for small coordinates and small positive image sizes at least < 1524431721 259854 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1524431777 210333 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1524431833 652359 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1524431838 805101 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in ff-composite:process, in the if (mode&64) branch, is it possible that you are using r,g,b,a uninitialized for some mode parameters? < 1524431886 778099 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@160-7-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1524431990 629492 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the big switch (mode&63) falls through that is < 1524432085 573066 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and isn't that something a compiler would notice? < 1524432095 421608 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and give a warning that is < 1524432126 335755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got no compiler warning < 1524432171 743386 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, but still, aren't you sometimes using them for comparison uninitialized, which would be undefined behavior in C? < 1524432180 592502 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it wouldn't be undefined behavior < 1524432192 865396 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, it could at least cause ugly nondeterminism < 1524432237 690050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, you aren't supposed to use numbers that aren't one of the choices. (I could add a check for that, although I think it unnecessary) < 1524432265 337334 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but you could just zero-initialize the variables < 1524432273 198007 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be simpler than to check anything < 1524432310 302664 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be my coding style, mind you < 1524432369 565374 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I initialize everything unless initializing would cost so much that not initializing is a useful optimization, since in most cases either the initialization is useful or the compiler can optimize it away because it can prove it unnecessary < 1524432446 500738 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I do it the functional programming style, that is, I declare an initialize all the variables in the innermost block possible, unless declaring it in a larger scope is an optimization because reinitializing is expensive (which can happen for allocating large buffers) < 1524432474 186094 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is useful for more determinism, even if not initializing wouldn't cause ub < 1524432482 451081 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I do know that this isn't your programming style < 1524432559 267828 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case putting `default: ` at the start of the switch block would work, and would look more like your programming style < 1524432568 401332 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iwmcafjjssujotxn QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1524432628 771808 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1524432652 5578 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1524432765 523500 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so bit 6 of mode selects a regular composition, and then bits 8, 9, 10, 11 choose a Duff-Porter operation and bit 7 does some sort of magic < 1524432864 921082 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1524433013 39289 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, only bits 8,9,10 choose a Duff-Porter operation. Bit 11 is ignored I think. < 1524433032 209403 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is strange because there's supposed to be 12 Duff-Porter modes < 1524433057 944223 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think that's only because some of them involve flipping the color composition mode, which you don't do here < 1524433077 709985 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think you are correct. < 1524433329 887215 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@160-7-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: HRII'FHALMA MNAHN'K'YARNAK NGAH NILGH'RI'BTHNKNYTH < 1524434187 737867 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:fb8b:fb15:c1d3:a33a JOIN :#esoteric < 1524434188 113896 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:fb8b:fb15:c1d3:a33a QUIT :Changing host < 1524434188 113947 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1524434303 677562 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zex1glfa1xy3qc.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1524434353 637871 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1524434381 340840 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1524434381 425198 :lob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 QUIT :Client Quit < 1524434714 189164 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1524434792 756786 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused by this code < 1524434844 43007 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In ff-composite.c, the color values in data are supposed to contain ordinary color values, not ones premultiplied by alpha, right? < 1524434860 422586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1524434890 940298 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is confusing stuff, then that should be fixed by adding comments or whatever, I suppose < 1524434934 747815 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to understand it first < 1524434954 404087 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1524434991 376566 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A=(long long)(z); A=((A>65535?65535:A<0?0:A)*data2.a*data[k].a+(mode&512?0:data2.a*(65535LL-data[k].a)*s)+(mode&1024?0:data[k].a*(65535LL-data2.a)*d))/4294836225; < 1524435009 154950 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the value of A is clamped and written into the color component of data[k] < 1524435074 721093 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how that can be right < 1524435099 854758 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that is wrong, then perhaps I could fix it < 1524435273 389394 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question is, if you try it, does it do what is expected? < 1524435418 537977 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't it be something like A=(long long)(z); A=A>65535?65535:A<0?0:A; A=(A*((long long)data2.a*data[k].a+(65535LL-data2.a)*(65535-data[k].a)) + (mode*512?A:s)*data2.a*(65535-data[k].a) + (mode*1024?A:s)*(65535-data2.a)*data[k].a)/4294836225; < 1524435446 993644 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that the sum of the weights of the three color values used (A, s, d) is always 65535*65535 < 1524435471 722698 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's not the right formula, but I can't see how the current one can be right < 1524435495 633169 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't the current one darken pixels when the source and destination are both partly transparent? < 1524435505 835593 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can fix it if necessary. Did you test it? < 1524435511 80624 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't tested it < 1524435520 481365 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me think < 1524435542 150714 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that isn't the right formula either < 1524435564 738737 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that the right formula for non-premultiplied alpha is more expensive than any of those, because it involves a division by a variable < 1524435587 675780 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it? isn't that how general alpha-blending works? < 1524435678 701537 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1524435796 973403 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at https://www.cairographics.org/operators/ , it gives the formulas with non-premultiplied alpha (even though cairo actually uses premultiplied alpha), you can see the division by the resulting alpha value < 1524435899 642806 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need the divison because if the source is 1/2 opaque and the destination is 1/2 opaque, then for a plain Over operator (alpha blending), the resulting pixel gets its color 1/3 part from the dest pixel's color, and 2/3 part from the src pixel's color, but the weights for the colors must add up to 1 so the colors aren't darkened < 1524435977 242157 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that division is there in the more common half of the Duff-Porter modes, although there are apparently also strange Duff-Porter modes that don't do alpha blending < 1524436056 913604 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That page doesn't tell how the combination of Duff-Porter modes with color composition modes work, but you definitely can't get away without the expensive division if the representation isn't pre-multiplied < 1524436068 585217 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The weights of the colors must add up < 1524436074 35915 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't have a black component < 1524436103 499548 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except in the case when both the source and destination are completely transparent < 1524436138 592175 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that make sense? or am I just tired and stupid? < 1524436249 385013 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1524436338 154626 :shikhin!shikhin@lambdaos.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1524436499 486916 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1524436531 135785 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know; sometimes I am just tired and stupid too; everyone will make mistakes. < 1524436568 660854 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try to write up how I think it's supposed to work < 1524436779 95894 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGIRL, dying... < 1524437490 961734 :wob_jonas!b03f1828@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.40 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still trying to write it up < 1524437738 900007 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jovlastxgrovegff JOIN :#esoteric < 1524437924 803799 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:c8e7:ec48:cbd6:6c6d QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. 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