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00:19:03 <esowiki> [[Esoteric programming language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55944&oldid=55808 * Iamcalledbob * (+170) /* Purpose */
00:19:41 <esowiki> [[Esoteric programming language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55945&oldid=55944 * Iamcalledbob * (+1) /* Difference */
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00:24:53 <esowiki> [[Esoteric programming language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55946&oldid=55945 * Iamcalledbob * (-11) /* Difference */
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00:35:14 <imode> so I know that turing machines and wang b-machines are equivalent. and WB machines can be extended to provide some pretty practical features (much like TMs can be). I wonder what kind of "practical formulations" string rewriting languages have.
00:35:58 <esowiki> [[Hi-assembly]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=55948 * Iamcalledbob * (+99) Created page with "==Hi assembly== It is assembly, but it can be used on all computers. The syntax is the x86 version."
00:36:21 <esowiki> [[Hi-assembly]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55949&oldid=55948 * Iamcalledbob * (+27)
00:36:41 <esowiki> [[Hi-assembly]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55950&oldid=55949 * Iamcalledbob * (+0) /* Hi assembly */
00:40:56 <esowiki> [[Esoteric programming language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55951&oldid=55947 * Iamcalledbob * (+42) /* Brevity */
00:41:08 <esowiki> [[Esoteric programming language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55952&oldid=55951 * Iamcalledbob * (-1) /* Brevity */
00:41:46 <imode> oh boy. he's having some fun.
00:41:47 <esowiki> [[Esoteric programming language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55953&oldid=55952 * Iamcalledbob * (+9) /* Brevity */
00:42:07 <esowiki> [[Esoteric programming language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55954&oldid=55953 * Iamcalledbob * (-9) /* Brevity */
00:42:34 <esowiki> [[Esoteric programming language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55955&oldid=55954 * Iamcalledbob * (-41) /* Brevity */
00:45:28 <esowiki> [[First.go]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55956&oldid=55942 * Oerjan * (-11) Wikify a bit
00:47:21 <esowiki> [[User:Iamcalledbob]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55957&oldid=55734 * Iamcalledbob * (-1589) Blanked the page
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00:48:41 <zzo38> I don't know what kind of "practical formulations" string rewriting languages have.
00:49:23 <Cale> `pbflist "You'll be OK"
00:49:24 <HackEso> pbflist "You'll be OK": shachaf Sgeo quintopia ion b_jonas Cale
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01:03:12 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55959&oldid=55937 * Fuzzballcat7 * (+143) /* Introductions */
01:03:52 <esowiki> [[User:Fuzzballcat7]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=55960 * Fuzzballcat7 * (+64) Created page with "I created a language called [[KittenScript]], based around cats."
01:05:23 <esowiki> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55961&oldid=55943 * Fuzzballcat7 * (+65) /* K */
01:05:54 <esowiki> [[KittenScript]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=55962 * Fuzzballcat7 * (+69) Created page with "=== KittenScript === ''Because coding doesn't have enough cat humor''"
01:06:04 <esowiki> [[KittenScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55963&oldid=55962 * Fuzzballcat7 * (-2) /* KittenScript */
01:06:20 <esowiki> [[KittenScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55964&oldid=55963 * Fuzzballcat7 * (+6) /* KittenScript */
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01:08:56 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55968&oldid=55967 * Asdf * (+8) /* Introductions */
01:11:25 <esowiki> [[KittenScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55969&oldid=55965 * Fuzzballcat7 * (+378)
01:11:35 <esowiki> [[KittenScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55970&oldid=55969 * Fuzzballcat7 * (-5) /* Full Syntax */
01:11:49 <esowiki> [[KittenScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55971&oldid=55970 * Fuzzballcat7 * (-1) /* Variables = */
01:12:31 <esowiki> [[KittenScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55972&oldid=55971 * Fuzzballcat7 * (+74) /* Syntax */
01:15:21 <esowiki> [[KittenScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55973&oldid=55972 * Fuzzballcat7 * (+89) /* Syntax */
01:18:13 <esowiki> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55974&oldid=55961 * Fuzzballcat7 * (-65) /* K */
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01:20:37 <oerjan> they seem a bit undecided.
01:21:56 <imode> quick way to spam the channel, though.
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01:42:33 <esowiki> [[Briefscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55977&oldid=55976 * Asdf * (+8) /* Hello, world! */
01:43:12 <esowiki> [[Briefscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55978&oldid=55977 * Asdf * (+50) /* Briefscript */
01:43:44 <esowiki> [[Briefscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55979&oldid=55978 * Asdf * (+145) /* Hello, world!(1 byte) */
01:45:00 <esowiki> [[Briefscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55980&oldid=55979 * Asdf * (+19) /* Briefscript */
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01:47:09 <esowiki> [[Briefscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55983&oldid=55982 * Asdf * (+30) /* Example */
01:48:05 <esowiki> [[Briefscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55984&oldid=55983 * Asdf * (+32) /* Syntax */
01:48:39 <esowiki> [[Briefscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55985&oldid=55984 * Asdf * (+51) /* Example */
01:49:31 <esowiki> [[Briefscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55986&oldid=55985 * Asdf * (+38) /* Syntax */
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01:50:46 <esowiki> [[Briefscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55988&oldid=55987 * Asdf * (+14) /* Syntax */
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01:52:01 <esowiki> [[Briefscript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55991&oldid=55990 * Asdf * (+25) /* Example */
02:03:29 <esowiki> [[PLEASE]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55992&oldid=55765 * Asdf * (+5) /* Instructions */
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02:24:51 <esowiki> [[Owl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55994&oldid=55993 * Oerjan * (-1062) Undo revision 55993 by [[Special:Contributions/Asdf|Asdf]] ([[User talk:Asdf|talk]]) (Copyvio)
02:25:56 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/delete]] revision * Oerjan * Oerjan changed visibility of a revision on page [[Owl]]: content hidden: Copyright violation
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02:31:33 <esowiki> [[User talk:Asdf]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=55995 * Oerjan * (+309) Removed copyrighted content
02:38:01 <imode> oerjan: I can't contribute my own work if it's under the GPL? interpreters and such?
02:38:23 <imode> what about the dozens of things that have no explicit license statement? surely that's more offensive.
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03:01:07 <oerjan> imode: you can relicense it
03:01:39 <oerjan> but if you put it on the wiki, you do that implicitly, if you _have_ the right to do so.
03:02:12 <oerjan> but i didn't see anything indicating that user was the original author.
03:03:03 <oerjan> and yes, no license statement isn't allowed to copy either.
03:03:51 <zzo38> You can put anything that is public domain in the wiki. If it is under the GPL, post a link to it instead.
03:04:01 <oerjan> of course, there are probably many instances on the wiki that we've missed.
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03:12:00 <imode> oerjan: I just wonder why the anti-GPL stance.
03:13:26 <imode> rather, I wonder why people _care_. I didn't think the wiki did.
03:14:13 <oerjan> imode: the wiki cannot use GPL content unless it is GPL itself.
03:14:15 <imode> this actually makes me wonder what the wikipedia maintainers think when grabbing source snippets from language websites that have something like the GPL attached to them. I don't think there's a problem there.
03:15:53 <zzo38> Wikipedia isn't public domain like esolang wiki is.
03:16:05 <zzo38> (Some texts on Wikipedia are public domain, but in general it isn't.)
03:16:31 <zzo38> Esolang wiki is required all texts/files public domain, although you can still link to stuff licensed by GPL or MIT license or whatever.
03:16:51 <zzo38> But they have to be external; stuff in the wiki itself is public domain.
03:17:11 <oerjan> imode: CC attribution-sharealike.
03:17:20 <imode> oerjan: but there's source on there that's GPL'd.
03:17:55 <imode> it looks like all you'd have to do is say "respectively GPL'd works are covered under the GPL" and leave it at that in one page.
03:18:16 <imode> I didn't even think this place cared. did anybody make a fuss?
03:18:36 <oerjan> imode: well we remove _obvious_ copyright violations.
03:18:46 <oerjan> we don't care _that_ much.
03:19:02 <oerjan> it's not like i go searching around.
03:19:22 <imode> just curious as to the origins of the idea. because I've never heard of this being an issue before.
03:19:31 <oerjan> i suppose we could do like wikipedia and have some pages be stricter.
03:20:11 <imode> like, if it were me, I wouldn't even bother enforcing licensing questions unless a fuss was made.
03:20:18 <oerjan> it was the original wiki founder graue's idea to make it PD, i assume, then we changed to CC/0 when we found out PD isn't really a license.
03:21:25 <oerjan> (too many places don't allow putting things in PD by decree)
03:22:13 <imode> this just brings to mind the kind of person who'd actually be pissed off by inclusion on the wiki with a conflicting license.
03:23:02 <oerjan> imode: i'm a bit chip on my shoulder about it today because of that trollish bob guy
03:23:18 <imode> I'm just amused that he left his password in his talk page.
03:23:32 <oerjan> it didn't look particularly real
03:23:59 <imode> thar be a reason you're not seeing any more edits from him.
03:25:50 <oerjan> imode: well he has four other accounts, at least.
03:26:00 <oerjan> which will get unbanned tomorrow.
03:26:00 <imode> how lovely. let's hope he's as stupid. :P
03:26:11 <imode> is he a known troll or something?
03:26:31 <oerjan> imode: not to me. but he's behaving trollish.
03:27:00 <oerjan> he could be someone we've seen before of course.
03:27:20 <zzo38> Stuff I posted on Wikipedia, All The Tropes wiki, my own computer programs, the stuff I write on this IRC (unless quoted someone else), is also public domain you are free to use them if you want to do so.
03:27:50 <imode> all the shit I write is under the "I'm not responsible" license.
03:27:53 <shachaf> What if I'm in a country that doesn't legally recognize public domain?
03:28:22 <imode> as in, if you somehow replace your init process with my interpreter, I am not responsible for downtime.
03:28:55 <zzo38> That is fine, since I am not paying for it.
03:29:29 <oerjan> imode: ah but have you put in the appropriate THIS PROGRAM COMES WITH NO WARRANTY, EVEN IMPLIED ETC. boilerplate?
03:29:41 <imode> lmao, for some internal stuff.
03:29:59 <imode> we had an acquisition. I put that in some tools I gave to the new staff.
03:30:24 <zzo38> shachaf: There is many license that is effectively close enough to public domain, whether CC0, the Unlicense, WTFPL, zero-clause BSD, etc; you can use all of that too.
03:30:40 <imode> "This is proof that you can't sue me."
03:31:14 <oerjan> of course they can sue.
03:31:28 <imode> whether they'll succeed is the question.
03:31:37 <pikhq> Yes, but there's sue, and then there's sue with even a chance of success.
03:32:08 <pikhq> If you're likely to have a summary judgement issued against you in a lawsuit, you *basically* can't sue.
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03:55:05 <esowiki> [[User talk:Asdf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55996&oldid=55995 * Asdf * (+190) /* Removed copyrighted content */
03:56:32 <esowiki> [[User talk:Asdf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55997&oldid=55996 * Asdf * (+1) /* Removed copyrighted content */
04:10:28 <shachaf> If you see something with a license that says you can't copy it, just copy it and change the license.
04:11:09 <zzo38> I do not have all of the files for the instrument sounds for General MIDI. How to get the rest of them?
04:11:15 <imode> can't violate a license if you don't have a license. ;)
04:12:36 <oerjan> imode: i'm starting to see the attraction of "don't bother" now...
04:13:07 <imode> sometimes laziness is an optimization. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
04:26:19 <zzo38> Why was the picture blank for half of a second?
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12:09:36 <esowiki> [[Turing tarpit]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56011&oldid=55770 * Asdf * (+71) /* Survey */
12:18:07 <esowiki> [[CopyPasta Language]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56012&oldid=55913 * BoutonIA * (+4) Add link to the esolang page.
12:20:07 <esowiki> [[Last ReSort]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56013&oldid=45757 * Ais523 * (+288) /* ZISC implementation */ implementation of this in the I/D machine
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12:30:33 <esowiki> [[Talk:Rattlesnake]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=56015 * Ais523 * (+366) attribution
12:38:21 <esowiki> [[Asdfjkl;]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=56016 * Asdf * (+2977) Created page with "[[asdfjkl;]] is an extension of [[asdf]] and [[1234]].The pointer begins at memory location 3. It can be moved left or right infinitely. IO is memory mapped. To read from t..."
12:40:03 <esowiki> [[Asdfjkl;]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56017&oldid=56016 * Asdf * (-1)
12:41:11 <esowiki> [[Turing tarpit]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56018&oldid=56011 * Asdf * (+75) /* Survey */
12:47:53 <esowiki> [[Qweruiopasdfghjkl;]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=56019 * Asdf * (+3983) Created page with "[[qweruiopasdfghjkl;]] is an extension of [[asdf]] and [[1234]].(Including [[Brainfuck]] and [[I/D machine]].)The pointer begins at memory location 3. It can be moved left or..."
12:52:32 <esowiki> [[Qwertyuiopasdfghjkl;vb]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=56020 * Asdf * (+4131) Created page with "[[qwertyuiopasdfghjkl;vb]] is an extension of [[asdf]] and [[1234]].(Including [[Brainfuck]] and [[I/D machine]] and [[BCT]].)The pointer begins at memory location 3. It can..."
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13:36:43 <esowiki> [[User:BoutonIA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56023&oldid=55572 * BoutonIA * (+13) /* My Languages */ Add the language "BSoD"
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16:44:07 <Taneb> Just opened NetHack for the first time in ages (never really got into it)
16:53:52 <Taneb> I feel like I should be taking more notes on the help file
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19:34:41 <zzo38> If you are playing mahjong and all of your opponents are cheating against you, taking your hand tiles into the bathroom might not help, because your opponent can examine the rest of the tiles in the wall and see which ones are missing.
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22:03:08 <esowiki> [[BSoD]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56025&oldid=56022 * BoutonIA * (+0) Change color for BSoD Background Color V2
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