< 1533772850 96634 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: hellorcahellorcah. < 1533772954 977361 :MDead!~MDude@97-127-137-99.cdrr.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1533772982 682410 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-137-99.cdrr.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1533772989 999365 :MDead!~MDude@97-127-137-99.cdrr.qwest.net NICK :MDude < 1533773316 539455 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonjouroily! < 1533774506 292785 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tournament! subscription! riichimontreal.org! < 1533774520 286145 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I saw, thanks < 1533774691 466118 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay ^^ < 1533775647 635611 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1533775687 650994 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-5d6aa5-174.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1533775940 813717 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1533776154 206142 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1533776332 183632 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-5d6aa5-174.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1533777212 495917 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1533777899 381151 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily. < 1533777956 680799 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1533778252 634510 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1533778377 103922 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsœøirjan! < 1533778856 530450 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: RESPONSE CHICKEN < 1533778859 278079 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas french wiktionary is worth a check because it's the best maintained. <-- ah ok i was assuming the english was < 1533778859 578679 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1533779054 667629 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-5d6aa5-174.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1533779145 106142 :hurt_by_captcha!056460a3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.100.96.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533779231 701678 :Numline1!~Numline1@86.98.23.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533779254 666483 :Numline1!~Numline1@86.98.23.254 NICK :Guest84678 < 1533779271 607654 :Guest84678!~Numline1@86.98.23.254 QUIT :Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) < 1533779406 767920 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :? url < 1533779414 97535 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url < 1533779414 904683 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/ < 1533779581 222514 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-5d6aa5-174.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1533779772 608717 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1533779773 280896 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoag "$@" | awk '{print substr($1,2,length($1)-2)}' | xargs -d'\n' < 1533779780 448130 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hoag < 1533779781 56838 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hlnp --removed --template "{desc}\n" -- "$@" < 1533779781 910766 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wdwugrorzskxuqqj JOIN :#esoteric < 1533779786 609604 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hlnp < 1533779787 190020 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :scowrevs="$(/usr/bin/paste -sd'|' /hackenv/share/scowrevs)"; hg log -r "tip:0 & ! ($scowrevs)" "$@" | sed 's/\(\(^\| \)[ 1533782764 376360 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07OFC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57285&oldid=57278 5* 03Ais523 5* (+265) 10/* Computational Class */ unusable, not TC > 1533782795 279672 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07OFC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57286&oldid=57285 5* 03Ais523 5* (+10) 10clarify in the introduction that this isn't TC < 1533783134 250437 :hurt_by_captcha!056460a3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.100.96.163 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1533784177 543622 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would y'all consider to be the most fundamental control structure. < 1533784192 623693 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :or set of control structures. < 1533784264 990278 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any ActiveX experts here? < 1533784476 665137 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1533784746 630483 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1533784956 262089 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: the reverse jump with continuation pirouette hth > 1533785233 159856 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Alphabet Stew14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57287&oldid=57280 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+4) 10/* Alphabet Stew */ Fix header < 1533786275 430480 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1533786474 322320 :iDanoo11!~iDanoo@189.248.58.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533786486 371949 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao. < 1533786519 73556 :iDanoo11!~iDanoo@189.248.58.8 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533786746 645899 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ppp-103-253.dynamic.bellmts.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1533787217 997896 :precise!~precise@222.76.75.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533787425 142358 :precise!~precise@222.76.75.164 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533787715 412174 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1533787985 408508 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1533788264 979882 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1533788371 220683 :sleepnap!~thomas@69.14.226.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533788566 706504 :d9b4bef910!~d9b4bef9@197.251.159.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533788751 453044 :OPK24!~OPK@196.64.117.150 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533788907 671036 :d9b4bef910!~d9b4bef9@197.251.159.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1533789065 389080 :OPK24!~OPK@196.64.117.150 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1533789640 886997 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas ok that doesn't go to well. e.g. i found https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Annexe:Conjugaison_en_italien/parlare and the information there is clearly _wrong_ on the pronunciation of parlerò. < 1533789641 153017 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1533789708 456730 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas (i am trying to find an example with pronunciations not just of the lemma forms, but also the inflections.) < 1533789708 791859 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1533789720 512114 :n0nada4!~n0nada@187.10.197.75 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533789762 733586 :n0nada4!~n0nada@187.10.197.75 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533790329 561896 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas and the saddest thing - none of the other wiktionaries even attempt to give pronunciations for parlerò or parleremo (checking the latter because it has no accent mark so you cannot deduce it) < 1533790330 43953 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1533790394 590682 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION maybe should assume wob_jonas logreads?
< 1533790450 568276 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i still don't know whether the e in -emo is open or closed. (i assume it's most likely stressed.) < 1533790493 529013 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i could google for an accented version < 1533790963 345411 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1533790987 410072 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :é according to a google book hit, it seems. < 1533791241 348145 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1533791311 378765 :Effilry!znc@freenode/staff/firefly NICK :FireFly < 1533791538 490636 :sleepnap!~thomas@69.14.226.9 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1533791721 89115 :ziddey4!~ziddey@113.22.216.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533791822 445270 :ziddey4!~ziddey@113.22.216.246 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533792978 837129 :pheizax!~pheizax@61.158.224.225 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533792978 990733 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-5d6aa5-174.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533793005 413666 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-5d6aa5-174.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1533793099 680644 :pheizax!~pheizax@61.158.224.225 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533793832 175857 :zgrepc!sid43445@ircpuzzles/2015/april-fools/sixth/zgrep QUIT :Quit: Updating details, brb < 1533793857 316546 :^[!sid43445@ircpuzzles/2015/april-fools/sixth/zgrep JOIN :#esoteric < 1533794232 396373 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1533794495 389460 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1533795917 293109 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1533796161 274234 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1533796444 635275 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wdwugrorzskxuqqj QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1533798000 39920 :timwis!~timwis@197.38.52.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533798095 488196 :timwis!~timwis@197.38.52.120 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533798136 852503 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1533798809 92444 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gprfswhhmeshtgzw QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1533799534 760733 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1533799583 31374 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1533799626 724127 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1533799902 250493 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1533800366 661323 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ppp-103-253.dynamic.bellmts.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1533800581 492360 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1533801173 566740 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1533801236 632487 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1533801650 714355 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1533802649 492396 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1533802874 306951 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1533802961 187373 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1533804018 96703 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1533804146 398090 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1533807497 629384 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533807524 812848 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"does somebody read webserials in languages other than English?" => yes, but only one. < 1533807594 386041 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :David Madore's weblog at http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/ , who is native bilingual in French and English, and a striving polyglot, and is blogging in both English and French. The best of his entries are the mathematics ones, most of which are in French. (These days, most of his entries overall are French, it used to be more English.) < 1533807611 923509 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reply to his French maths entries in English comments, then he replies to me in English. < 1533807641 931607 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :webcomics => well, David did link to a few French webcomics, but I'm not interested. < 1533807670 8736 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know only enough French to struggle through most of his entries slowly, and he writes in a very clear prose, and maths is easy to read anyway. < 1533807725 564571 :James_T18!~James_T@exostic.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1533807728 224572 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He also has a few articles about amateur linguistics < 1533807732 85190 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aarseniiv: ^ < 1533807793 3255 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/lang.html for the latter, and about his experiences in learning foreign languages incl russian and arabic < 1533807930 649420 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, you asked "webserials"? Then no. < 1533807940 460756 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :His blog doesn't count as a "webserial" I think. < 1533808017 663764 :James_T18!~James_T@exostic.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1533809631 914379 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-djjbgyvfkvjpjlwv JOIN :#esoteric < 1533809653 853171 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so you're saying you checked a paper dictionary, and wiktionary is definitely wrong about a common italian word? it happens, I've seen such cases on a wiki. I just found two Hungarian words that supposedly mean circus in English, but I very much doubt it, unless it's an obscure meaning of "circus". < 1533809704 30539 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: doesn't Italian have some default convention for omitting the stress accent even in dictionaries if it matches a simple default rule? < 1533809727 339753 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course that doesn't work for a wiki where people might just not add the stress mark, but still. < 1533809776 998144 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: French wiktionary at least gives pronunciation for almost all French words, including almost all inflections. < 1533809833 284482 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's almost stupid to ask, but you have considered that you're just wrong about Italian and wiktionary is correct, right? < 1533809895 973148 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also try to ask on #wiktionary on freenode, per https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Channels . < 1533810006 585925 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the editors of the French wiktionary are helpful if you ask. they might not start to add stress marks for all italian words all the sudden, but at least they might figure out what's the deal with them. You can ask in https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionnaire:Ambassade , Yann is pretty active and a volunteer there and is fluent in English < 1533810011 242522 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's also active on IRC. < 1533811067 137208 :daemon22!~daemon@145.249.232.85 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533811158 522920 :daemon22!~daemon@145.249.232.85 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533811661 706321 :armin23!~armin@41.238.167.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533811756 608546 :armin23!~armin@41.238.167.54 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533811783 868464 :walle303!~walle303@121.176.147.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533811804 417844 :walle303!~walle303@121.176.147.10 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533814052 98078 :qassim25!~qassim@41.87.12.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533814073 703469 :qassim25!~qassim@41.87.12.233 QUIT :K-Lined < 1533814760 247811 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1533815074 706088 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1533815444 293071 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1533816250 246217 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Following up the other popular webcomic authors each publishing the book is qwantz with a book to be published later in 2018: http://www.howtoinventeverything.com/ < 1533816301 810801 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :previous webcomics like that include xkcd and SMBC. And that's just the ones that aren't mainly the same webcomic in print form, like Irregular's and Questionable Comic and OOTS. < 1533817221 343788 :Hijiri24!~Hijiri@105.108.67.247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533817327 247835 :Hijiri24!~Hijiri@105.108.67.247 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533817365 518172 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1533818580 467477 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: just timed my cubing and I got an average of 2:19. Lots of room to improve :) < 1533818592 518834 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad not bad < 1533818603 150498 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see the xiaomi rubik's cube? < 1533818608 345806 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not! < 1533818615 62241 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that 2:19 for a 3x3? < 1533818616 678103 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :look it up! < 1533818628 553523 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yeah < 1533818635 526291 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably roughly the same speed I think < 1533818641 140432 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't tried timing < 1533818654 479187 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad guys, not bad < 1533818660 946226 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really great either :p < 1533818660 963868 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just timed 5 and took the middle 3 (I believe that's what they do in tournaments) < 1533818675 997806 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could do that when I get home < 1533818765 38200 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only approach I know is very slow and step-by-step, really < 1533818782 433113 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you must get rid of the steps, steps are bad < 1533818915 681179 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xekjyddgeioxofbm JOIN :#esoteric > 1533819049 607601 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03WhyAreWeHereJustToSuffer 5* 10New user account > 1533819135 904362 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57288&oldid=57269 5* 03WhyAreWeHereJustToSuffer 5* (+156) 10/* Introductions */ > 1533819251 517150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cellular automaton14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57289&oldid=57230 5* 03Ais523 5* (+121) 10/* Relation to esoteric programming */ two more examples < 1533819605 293469 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1533819761 726902 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-djjbgyvfkvjpjlwv QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1533819926 422090 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: usually middle 8 of 10, but people sometimes do just middle 3 of 5. < 1533819985 246049 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there's #rubik which taught me a bit, but mostly I just need to practice a lot and occasionally think about which parts to concentrate on and which parts to relearn to do differently (confusing at first but eventually worth). < 1533820030 96063 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#rubik is about as off-topic as this channel, the regulars talk about rust and the vim editor. < 1533820082 252876 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have a bot to give a random cube scramble, and they sometimes talk about cubing, so it's not off-topic all the time < 1533820091 963815 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know that sort of thing if you're here a lot < 1533820266 257199 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-002-203-102-060.002.203.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: thunderstorm < 1533820318 617124 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My next plan is to get better at planning my first moves < 1533820729 907572 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really need to get my own cube < 1533820742 322739 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got one at my parents' house and I've otherwise been borrowing one of my coworker's < 1533820962 818915 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I bought two, and I'm now using the one that I like better. < 1533820990 399119 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the one named TheValk, but what cube you want is sort of a matter of personal choice. < 1533821035 310744 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should still buy a good silver mirror some day, as a secondary thing to learn better, solving it blindfolded. (I can already solve the silver mirror, obviously, but too slowly.) < 1533821056 996726 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the primary will be the 3x3x3 cube two-handed normal solve, as is the most popular. < 1533821071 798780 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also bad at it, but every little practice helps. < 1533821116 427762 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: just buy a cheap speedcube for a tenner or something < 1533821282 830669 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.cuboss.se/shop/yuxin-little-magic-3x3/ I think it was this one that I got < 1533821872 389453 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1533821954 180681 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Wait, you asked "webserials"? Then no. => :D < 1533822091 550349 :sleepnap!~thomas@2603:3015:260e:1900::13ed JOIN :#esoteric < 1533824451 294255 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-002-203-102-060.002.203.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1533824526 664062 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1533824540 179954 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1533825301 119068 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aarseniv: I'll rewatch the parts of the video that I recognized wrong. "Ë" => yes, that's definitely a "h", not a "ž", because it doesn't have the middle part. The cursive "ž" is longer, with lots of space for the middle. < 1533825341 574416 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrolling to "L" < 1533825381 665171 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: want to split the shipping costs? < 1533825427 675795 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it's also an "m" in the end at the "Ë" word, with two tent-tops and angle joint at the left bottom to separate it < 1533825433 233554 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: ...honestly I was just planning on going to Sainsburys and buying an official, non-speed cube < 1533825465 743949 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1533825482 748440 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because learning the algorithms would be better for me than just having a slicker cube < 1533825491 274675 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or learning better algorithms < 1533825501 957593 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you need a speed cube, even if a cheap one. < 1533825503 957936 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really. < 1533825527 819853 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't buy the Rubik brand if that's what you mean by "official" < 1533825541 393494 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask on #rubik if you need help choosing < 1533825550 629148 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can order good cubes for cheap from ebay, like I did < 1533825568 423048 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheaper than I can buy the official nice-looking ones in the local game stores < 1533825595 918122 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Taneb < 1533825597 48939 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter whom you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, one of which is a Czech woman, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. He sometimes invents without noticing it (see: tanebventions). < 1533825609 583431 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is elliott still alive? < 1533825655 232928 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're in a country where the post and customs offices open every fucking cheap ebay order from the east and makes you pay double its price as import tariff < 1533825669 258638 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Sweden starting last year, but hopefully it won't stick < 1533825692 467367 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the situation in Norway or the UK or wherever you guys are < 1533825709 120322 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK I think, so quick order it before Brexit < 1533825756 513270 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, specifically 75 or 125 SEK, I think, depending on value of the thing you order < 1533825758 305253 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, we're both in the UK < 1533825795 409947 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's a "v" in "Lavraziâ", because it looks like a latin b < 1533825801 921037 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the non-speedcube cubes are horrible though, so I don't see any reason to get that :p < 1533825822 115109 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a decent speedcube would probably be both significantly smoother and cheaper < 1533825838 596503 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: honestly, I find the stiffness relaxing < 1533825846 863599 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, alright < 1533825864 153355 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It helps calm me down sometimes to do something that has some resistance with my hands < 1533825930 86860 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes, so get a stiffer speedcube. That's why I chose TheValk. The other one I bought turns too easily, plus its corners are so loose I have multiple times accidentally twisted a corner in place without meaning to. < 1533825931 832102 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting better at solving them is mostly a pleasant side effect < 1533825961 114364 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It calms me down too. < 1533825972 177601 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm still very glad I bought a speedcube this year. < 1533825975 153019 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1533825983 867975 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1533825995 525473 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd have bought one earlier if I knew they were this good < 1533826000 995211 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a nice boardgames-and-stuff store in Prague, I wonder if they have speedcubes too < 1533826021 789864 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're on ebay from east asia with often free shipping < 1533826029 478856 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know ebay, right? < 1533826032 927781 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what's the advantage of speedcubes? < 1533826068 901508 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're more pleasant to work with. won't lock up when you try to turn it, which breaks your concentration a lot < 1533826088 816121 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :They havea different construction, so that you can rotate a layer without the others being exactly completely in the right position, I think < 1533826103 329706 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go talk to #rubik, they'll explain it better < 1533826108 282520 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what the construction of a traditional cube looks like, but the speedcubes have like a sphere with spokes in the middle < 1533826129 974618 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are various constructions, including magnetic ones (mine isn't magnetic) < 1533826144 331017 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: traditional is a sphere with grooves, I think < 1533826183 902223 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buy a non-speed cube for your small child above three years who won't swallow the pieces if he takes it off with his tiny fingers, and be prepared that when he does so, his hand will get dirty. < 1533826216 635705 :Guest79333!~Guest7933@117.0.215.196 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533826224 974005 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he'll enjoy disassembling and daddy putting it back together, and if he's six year old, then he'll also enjoy assembling and turning it. maybe. every child is different. < 1533826398 285829 :Guest79333!~Guest7933@117.0.215.196 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533826637 669997 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mean it literally < 1533826646 942477 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you have a small child < 1533826666 116838 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just saying, a toy store cube is a worthless children's toy < 1533827271 393905 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, the way how the top line of the B and P are disconnected from the vertical parts looks so unusual to me. I don't write any latin letters like that. The only thing it resembles is a greek capital Xi < 1533827301 632427 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet without the hole, if you extended the vertical lines to reach the top, they'd look entirely normal < 1533827487 320548 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aarseniv: "Solnce" => indeed. it's a bottom-joined "o", the one I mentioned was strange to me, but with a very short join on o's side, then the required tiny angle join on the "l" for a low connection < 1533827544 810850 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now let me watch the rest of the letters. And I hope near the end you manage to work in words with examples of the rarer letters with different connections, which will be tricky < 1533827591 110344 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"T" => standalone top is still the only really strange part < 1533827669 317070 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, you're getting impatient here and writing more quickly < 1533827697 234170 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the top is not just not touching the stiles, but also written afterwards, like an accent? I'll never do that < 1533827825 385445 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tenočt..." ... "Tenočtitlan" is that from one of the pre-Columbus south american civilizations? < 1533827880 423978 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That capital "U" is strange < 1533827908 271438 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps it's normal, and the way we write capital J and Y in cursive is what's strange < 1533827944 671806 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Uran" is that another celestial? < 1533828012 946294 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fudzi" < 1533828432 981682 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1533828521 388222 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hinlopenbrin" I think? it's a bit squashed on the right ... and then you cross out "lop" and write "lop" again < 1533828530 302934 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, at this point you were getting tired < 1533828680 238677 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, now here it's getting ugly and harder to read. "Cicik..." "Cicikar" and the first i is squashed < 1533829493 774938 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to leave, dunno when I can actually watch this video < 1533829504 435834 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must do more important sutff < 1533829506 624062 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1533830789 862738 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c193-150-230-73.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1533830790 480620 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c193-150-230-73.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Changing host < 1533830790 498090 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1533831186 492886 :piklu28!~piklu@27.76.95.235 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533831226 284057 :piklu28!~piklu@27.76.95.235 QUIT :K-Lined < 1533831591 569137 :hggdh23!~hggdh@171.7.194.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533831633 547110 :hggdh23!~hggdh@171.7.194.104 QUIT :Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) < 1533831733 378253 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas calling me with the other vowel doubled doesn’t give me notifications( < 1533831733 593164 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1533832216 441054 :kameloso26!~kameloso@218.54.38.151 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533832287 754045 :kameloso26!~kameloso@218.54.38.151 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533832396 228177 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas By the way, the way how the top line of the B and P are disconnected from the vertical parts looks so unusual to me. I don't write any latin letters like that. The only thing it resembles is a greek capital Xi => it could be connected, I think. If you want, definitely do connect. It’s a fancy, and I don’t remember getting bad grades in middle school about not following it strictly, as with many other details < 1533832396 555991 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1533832436 433748 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I fear that message has been split in half, but I haven’t yet read to the bottom < 1533832441 307376 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see it < 1533832530 802387 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas damn, you're getting impatient here and writing more quickly => oops I have been afraid it could be so < 1533832531 83146 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1533832710 525917 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas also, the top is not just not touching the stiles, but also written afterwards, like an accent? I'll never do that => I was unsure there. A friend have said me after he watched that they’ve been taught to write kratka in й (and maybe dots in ё) just after the “base” is written, not after all the “bases” in the word are written < 1533832710 720176 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1533832750 881914 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas "Tenočtitlan" is that from one of the pre-Columbus south american civilizations? => yeah < 1533832751 195813 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1533832844 234016 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas That capital "U" is strange => if you mean it needs a hook I’d agree. When I write it nearly cursively, I often add a hook, it looks pleasant < 1533832844 596076 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1533833004 22338 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas "Uran" is that another celestial? => yes, Uranus (and also uranium, but it’s of course not a place; also curiously uranium is simply уран, but neptunium and plutonium are suddenly нептуний and плутоний, with an -ий suffix homological with -ium) < 1533833004 270349 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1533833107 264837 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas "Hinlopenbrin" I think? it's a bit squashed on the right ... and then you cross out "lop" and write "lop" again => the name is read right, it’s a glacier somewhere, also I had decided the first ло is written incorrectly and showed a more correct version, п there for completeness of о form < 1533833107 547779 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1533833452 585143 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas also an addition to a previous one: <= Or perhaps it's normal, and the way we write capital J and Y in cursive is what's strange => no, actually there’s evidence Russian cursive was based on Latin one and it almost hadn’t evolve organically as Latin had < 1533833452 917943 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1533833517 555104 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas Цицикар is also right. Sorry it goes harder to the end < 1533833517 901042 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1533833568 587095 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :also forgive me #esoteric I’ll make a test of lambdabot memory here, too < 1533833598 188959 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell aarseniv please don’t try to impersonate me, it’s too evident < 1533833598 439809 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1533833634 180590 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :…and I hoped they wouldn’t save a message for an unregistered nickname user < 1533834163 956223 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1533834271 258296 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c193-150-230-73.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1533834271 533122 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c193-150-230-73.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Changing host < 1533834271 550632 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1533834422 263147 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@213.202.60.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533834761 605614 :nesthib!~nesthib@218.146.21.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533834849 457906 :nesthib!~nesthib@218.146.21.109 QUIT :Killed (Unit193 (Spam is not permitted on freenode.)) < 1533835186 970631 :bcompton!~bradcomp@38.104.142.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533836263 991891 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds > 1533836838 569368 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07NoRAL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57290&oldid=57284 5* 03DMC 5* (+32) 10/* The Instruction set */ < 1533837003 360544 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ppp-103-253.dynamic.bellmts.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1533837045 105394 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07NoRAL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57291&oldid=57290 5* 03DMC 5* (+102) 10/* added Truth machine code */ < 1533837484 439917 :liguo!~liguo@186.178.135.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533837485 432041 :liguo!~liguo@186.178.135.190 QUIT :K-Lined < 1533837921 307276 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@213.202.60.99 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1533838099 923865 :bcompton!~bradcomp@38.104.142.186 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.2 < 1533838121 994370 :bradcomp!~bradcomp@38.104.142.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533838178 609666 :bradcomp!~bradcomp@38.104.142.186 QUIT :Client Quit < 1533838532 760095 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1533838632 383167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57292&oldid=54870 5* 03DMC 5* (+158) 10/* Examples */ > 1533838665 318095 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitter14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57293&oldid=57292 5* 03DMC 5* (-1) 10/* Truth Machine */ > 1533838793 519783 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57294&oldid=57279 5* 03DMC 5* (+1) 10/* Alphabet Stew */ > 1533838872 667861 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57295&oldid=57294 5* 03DMC 5* (+46) 10/* Implementations */ > 1533839082 410207 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57296&oldid=57295 5* 03DMC 5* (+4) 10/* Implementations */ < 1533839093 251183 :bradcomp!~bradcomp@38.104.142.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533839713 306506 :sleepnap1!~thomas@69.14.226.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533839732 219297 :sleepnap1!~thomas@69.14.226.9 PART :#esoteric < 1533840192 646754 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1533840424 673223 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1533840696 225364 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xekjyddgeioxofbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here familiar with the Jelly golfing language? < 1533841180 90867 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone definitely was, though I don’t remember who. Try searching the logs < 1533841250 522168 :heinrich599128!~heinrich5@ppp-124-120-107-163.revip2.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1533841281 610976 :heinrich599128!~heinrich5@ppp-124-120-107-163.revip2.asianet.co.th QUIT :Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) < 1533841417 870088 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example => 08:22:46 I know about jelly because ais523 programs in it < 1533841621 921167 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems he’s the only one < 1533841852 736554 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :it’s November 2017 and still he’s the only one telling useful things about it. ATMunn tried to program in Jelly and failed (in December, 17, the same year) < 1533841919 99005 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xekjyddgeioxofbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, i'll try and ambush him when he shows up again then < 1533841925 155856 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xekjyddgeioxofbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the info < 1533842467 526987 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :no prob; ftr I’ve decided to search all 2017 months, and there was only ais523 < 1533843295 983114 :pheizax!~pheizax@37-147-38-173.broadband.corbina.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1533843332 460366 :pheizax!~pheizax@37-147-38-173.broadband.corbina.ru QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533844630 928332 :soahccc!~soahccc@5.101.209.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533844752 921732 :soahccc!~soahccc@5.101.209.122 QUIT :K-Lined < 1533845554 178348 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533845634 173343 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: the reason this russian cursive is so unintuitive to me is that the connection between the letters work completely differently. firstly, it's backwards from the simple way I model latin cursive. < 1533845725 408641 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way I model it, most letters end near the bottom and some end near the top, and all letters can start at the top so for normal letters the connection is an upwards slanting straight line, and for letters ending up, the connection is a little smiling line dipping down whose top is on the line that separates the small size letters from the ascend < 1533845725 466356 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ers. < 1533845732 227112 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no downwards connections < 1533845761 911562 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some letters need uglier variant forms after a letter that ends on the top, and they get squashed, because they'd rather have a connection on the bottom < 1533845894 248276 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b, o, r, v, w end on the top, a, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, m, n, p, q, s, t, u, y, z end on the bottom, and how x is supposed to be written in normal cursive is a complete < 1533845940 118547 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e gets a smaller loop after an upper connection, with the top smiley being lengthened so it smoothly forms to bottom of the loop, but a nice large loop for a lower connection. < 1533846010 243741 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f and l get a nice large loop for a bottom connection, and since it has an ascender, they still have a large enough loop for an upper connection, but look slightly stranger, especially f where the loop doesn't intersect the cross then < 1533846083 592027 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :r gets hard to write for a top connection because it's supposed to start with a top frown, so normally after an upper connection you're supposed to make a tilde from the top frown and the bottom frown, but this is only in the style I learned, most people use a completely different looking alternate form < 1533846194 582963 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i, m, n, u, v, w, y start with a vertical line from top to bottom at full length of a normal length character, and the smiley or upwards slant meet at a sharp angle at the top of that line, so there's always a sharp angle connection at top for those < 1533846242 177411 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t is sort of similar, but you connect in the middle of the even longer vertical line, write the ascender of the same line up and a 180 degree turn at top, then straight down to almost the baseline < 1533846316 453676 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f, h, k, l start with a looped ascender where you connect to the intersection of the loop, smoothly continuing either the upwards slant or the smiley into the start of the right side of the loop, and then the loop ends like a normal downwards line < 1533846430 946298 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after the downwards line, in b, i, t, u, v, w the downwards line doesn't quite reach the baseline, but curve out in a bottom smiley instead; in h, k, m, n, and r the vertical line reaches the baseline vertical and makes a 180 degree turm; f and p go even further and the vertical line reaches the bottom of the descender < 1533846481 542575 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas in this russian alphabet you're showing me, the connection is decided backwards, it depends on the next letter, not the previous letter, and the connecting lines or angles are different too < 1533846548 978624 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: English vs French wiktionary is sort of a tie, they're different in different ways < 1533846641 633389 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have no idea how to write uppercase letters in cursive properly, they're weird < 1533846656 127031 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they do have these parts that are supposed to be written later in some styles too < 1533846722 386830 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way I was taught, the cross of the t and the dot of the i and the acute accents and diaresis and double acute are supposed to be added after the whole word, because it breaks the connection, but I never do that. I write a full letter, it's easier even if it's uglier. < 1533846733 661907 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are variants on many letters < 1533846801 94730 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, in some, f is supposed to have a pen lift after the end of the downwards line and start the cross in a new line, but the cross isn't written after the word because it's what connects smoothly to the upwards slant for the next letter. < 1533846817 860994 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cross is also a smiley by the way, whereas the cross of the t is a straight line < 1533846821 964098 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try to make images or something < 1533846851 959142 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sane people don't lift the pen for f, they connect the bottom straight to the hook because that doesn't make it more similar to any letter < 1533846869 646667 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have to write a proper descender, or else it would look like a b < 1533846886 888369 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I write very ugly though in practice, breaking all the rules and using my own crazy stule < 1533846997 889264 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll get back and actually watch the video to the end. I'll be interested in the rarer latters and if you manage to show how they connec5t < 1533847097 810797 :wob_jonas!b03f1863@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.99 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1533849370 331181 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi again < 1533849448 474643 :bradcomp!~bradcomp@38.104.142.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1533849465 672548 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1533849603 870861 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I should try to make images or something => definitely :) < 1533849629 618447 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’ve seen some Latin cursive here and there, but I lack a more systematic knowledge < 1533849705 509397 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.131.121.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi bradcomp) < 1533850004 222732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist 477 < 1533850004 937118 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist 477: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy Cale < 1533850320 966220 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting for new kernel < 1533850759 346550 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1533851175 673821 :sleepnap!~thomas@2603:3015:260e:1900::13ed PART :#esoteric < 1533852712 736790 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1533853327 387739 :Gentle!~Gentle@lch-01-062.lch.ras.cantv.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1533853360 9649 :Gentle!~Gentle@lch-01-062.lch.ras.cantv.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533853552 194579 :Andre483!~Andre483@45.123.2.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533853833 963199 :Andre483!~Andre483@45.123.2.69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1533854034 350270 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533854376 298810 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-002-203-102-060.002.203.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1533854400 112581 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-002-203-102-060.002.203.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1533854413 384903 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1533855756 402297 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1533857685 567687 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1533858314 226186 :bradcomp!~bradcomp@38.104.142.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1533858344 585538 :Techman25!~Techman@169.red-83-44-94.dynamicip.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1533858409 620085 :Techman25!~Techman@169.red-83-44-94.dynamicip.rima-tde.net QUIT :Killed (Unit193 (Spam is not permitted on freenode.)) < 1533858931 100280 :dp39!~dp3@201.180.42.210 JOIN :#esoteric < 1533858999 602645 :dp39!~dp3@201.180.42.210 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1533859170 192795 :rain2!~rain1@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric