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10:24:39 <esowiki> [[Lambda Calculus to Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57493&oldid=57477 * A * (-23) Suddenly discovered that I am not making a new language.
10:28:32 <int-e> . o O ( shachaf: no! )
10:30:25 <esowiki> [[Lambda Calculus to Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57494&oldid=57493 * A * (-269) /* Bored? Let's enjoy an example */
10:32:16 <esowiki> [[Lambda Calculus to Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57495&oldid=57494 * A * (-50) /* Try Again */
10:32:56 <esowiki> [[Lambda Calculus to Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57496&oldid=57495 * A * (-7)
10:33:36 <esowiki> [[Lambda Calculus to Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57497&oldid=57496 * A * (-6) /* Calling Functions */
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10:55:25 <ep100> Hey guys. What are you all working on?
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14:32:30 <oerjan> @tell boily bood afternoily. that was certainly disturbing.
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16:13:23 <HackEso> smlist 481: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy Cale
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18:36:23 <wob_jonas> You know what I'm worried about, guys?
18:37:23 <wob_jonas> I'm getting lots of different phishing spam, the really bad kind, in the name of the two banks I actually use through their online banking system, and very rarely in the name of any other banks.
18:38:30 <wob_jonas> The phishing itself is worthless, I'm not going to fall for it. But I'm really trying to not make it easy to find out which two banks I use. I have mentioned the name of one of them in this channel, but very rarely, and not in any way that an automated spambot is likely to connect to me.
18:38:56 <wob_jonas> Nobody is likely to target me with phishing spam. It's definitely automated spambots in mass quantities that figured out which two banks I use. How do they know?
18:39:05 <wob_jonas> It's not impossible to find out, but not easy either.
18:39:08 <shachaf> My trick is to have an account with every bank.
18:40:05 <wob_jonas> shachaf: sure, it's probably cheap in *most* of the banks, but if you have an account with *every* bank, that's bound to cost you. you're not paying for the median.
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18:42:02 <shachaf> Shouldn't the banks be paying me?
18:42:51 <ep100> they should be paying me honest to god?
18:42:56 <wob_jonas> shachaf: some of them, sure. but not so much that you win in gross total.
18:43:42 <shachaf> OK, I'll only have accounts with 5-10 banks or something.
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18:57:18 <wob_jonas> I can believe that, and so can the spambots.
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18:59:44 <shachaf> Spambots don't send me spam from any of those banks, though, I think.
19:00:03 <shachaf> Unless you count spambots operated by the banks themselves, in which case they often send me spam that I can't opt out of.
19:00:26 <shachaf> For example one of them keeps sending me emails about their mobile app, which I already have installed.
19:00:50 <shachaf> They say it's sent as part of our existing business relationship (and so presumably exempt from CAN-SPAM?).
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19:09:38 <wob_jonas> shachaf: the spam is not *from* any bank. it's just *in the name* of the bank. and it's a very weak pretense.
19:10:06 <wob_jonas> shachaf: and yes, I also get a few emails from the bank, but those don't bother me, unlike the phishing sent in their name.
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