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02:08:23 <wob_jonas> zzo38: re succ and pred on lists, I don't know, I haven't tested the rules, so there can easily be bugs in them
02:09:08 <wob_jonas> zzo38: if they're buggy, you might have to re-derive them from the definitions of list representation, and perhaps compare that definition to the one given in David's article,
02:09:33 <wob_jonas> but note that Amicus's list repr is very different from (0)'s pair repr
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02:15:05 <esowiki> [[Talk:Amycus]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57630&oldid=57629 * Zzo38 * (+0)
02:18:56 <zzo38> They are French and I am not so good at French.
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02:20:52 <zzo38> Furthermore, the definition that I wrote will need also the other case in case e=0.
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02:34:30 <esowiki> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57632&oldid=57553 * HereToAnnoy * (+15) /* D */ added D.U.C.K.
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04:11:57 <zzo38> I mentioned in talk page that <0:<e:m>>+1 = <1:<e-1:m>> and I think also <0:<0:<e:m>>>+1 = <2:<e-1:m>> and so on, they tell you how many zero at first. This is working even if you do not have any zero at first, so that <e:m>+1 = <0:<e-1:m>> (which is in fact what the fourth rule says), I think?
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04:13:49 <zzo38> Does anyone on here other than wob_jonas able to comment?
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06:05:43 <wob_jonas> zzo38: I don't know. but now I'm also concerned by [[Amycus#Writing_Amycus_programs]], some of which seems wrong
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08:41:27 <esowiki> [[User talk:Star651]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57633&oldid=44610 * Star651 * (+257) /* Um. */
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16:58:50 <esowiki> [[User:Singingbanana]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57634&oldid=54702 * Singingbanana * (-170)
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16:59:59 <wob_jonas> There was an elephant hiding under my bed!
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18:55:08 <zzo38> wob_jonas: I did not check the part about writing Amycus programs
18:56:14 <zzo38> Did you read what I wrote on the talk page?
18:56:40 <wob_jonas> zzo38: yes. it is quite possible that my laws for pred and succ are wrong.
19:02:27 <zzo38> I think that if the list start with any amount of zero (including zero) then it is <n:<e-1:m>> where n tells how many zero at first. If all of them are zero then it is <n:0>. So first two rules is OK, and fourth rule is also OK, but third rule is no good. This my idea is therefore making the description of one rule (which may be expanded to make multiple rules that can be recursive, because the number "n" also needs to be converted into a list).
19:02:38 <zzo38> And then for pred you can do other way around.
19:35:55 <zzo38> I am now trying to make it in Haskell
19:39:41 <wob_jonas> zzo38: I found an M:tG card under my bed, which must have been hiding there for more than a month. And it was an Elephant too, not some sneaky blue creature.
19:43:40 <zzo38> OK. What card specifically?
19:57:09 <zzo38> Here is the proper rules for incrementing lists in Amycus (I think): https://arin.ga/bSdNQA
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20:00:46 <zzo38> Does it looks like good to you? The rules for pred are same, but rules for succ is a bit difference.
20:13:05 <esowiki> [[Amycus]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57635&oldid=57612 * Zzo38 * (-26) Corrected rules for incrementing lists
20:13:27 <zzo38> I fixed the [[Amycus]] article now; you can look
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21:18:00 <esowiki> [[Technologic]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=57636 * JWinslow23 * (+9035) Created page with "'''Technologic''' is a programming language created in [[:Category:2018|2018]] in which all keywords are lyrics to the Daft Punk song "Technologic". == Design Philosophy ==..."
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21:34:43 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/move]] move * B jonas * moved [[The language Amycus was supposed to be]] to [[Amicus]]: figured out a good name David's language, so I'm renaming it. hope it's not too late.
21:38:15 <esowiki> [[Hyperamycus]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57639&oldid=57614 * B jonas * (-145) renamed language
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21:53:33 <esowiki> [[Amicus]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57640&oldid=57637 * B jonas * (-554) rename
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21:56:06 <esowiki> [[Amycus]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57641&oldid=57635 * B jonas * (+11)
21:58:15 <esowiki> [[Amycus Severus]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57642&oldid=57607 * B jonas * (+12)
21:59:06 <esowiki> [[Pointfree programming]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57643&oldid=57609 * B jonas * (-32)
22:00:14 <esowiki> [[Amycus]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57644&oldid=57641 * B jonas * (-32)
22:01:07 <esowiki> [[David Madore]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57645&oldid=57599 * B jonas * (-243)
22:08:57 <zzo38> Is there any need to explain the view pattern?
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22:24:41 <shachaf> Are there any languages on the wiki with names like "User:Oerjan" or "Special: Search"?
22:26:47 <zzo38> I think someone once named a language after their own user page
22:28:52 <wob_jonas> https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Language
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22:38:05 <wob_jonas> `ehlist http://eheroes.smackjeeves.com/
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23:27:56 <esowiki> [[Hyperamycus]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57646&oldid=57639 * B jonas * (+250) Rule 7
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23:46:48 <HackEso> 76) <Gregor> I don't know that I've ever heard apocalypi described in terms of depth ... \ 560) <Phantom__Hoover> Also you steal Berwick from us and then say you don't want it? <Ngevd> You stole it from us first!
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