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:bradcomp!~bradcomp@c-67-161-161-17.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1537843526 968026 :bradcomp!~bradcomp@c-67-161-161-17.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1537844501 387746 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cntamscxkjjnbqls QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1537844652 846820 :bradcomp!~bradcomp@c-67-161-161-17.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1537845254 798983 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-bcee80-209.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1537845874 492748 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1537845890 15790 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1537846322 289258 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Everyone in Europe (except for Iceland, Turkey, Belarus, Russia), don't forget, time zone offset change is on the coming weekend. <-- [citation needed] or you're off by a month. < 1537846374 884665 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas Everyone in Europe (except for Iceland, Turkey, Belarus, Russia), don't forget, time zone offset change is on the coming weekend. <-- [citation needed] or you're off by a month. < 1537846375 192126 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1537846619 975707 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ppp-103-253.dynamic.bellmts.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1537847763 774221 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1537848600 878685 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.163 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1537849132 483420 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-bcee80-209.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1537851528 997930 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537852816 145381 :g4k11!~g4k@200.71.91.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537853266 301056 :g4k11!~g4k@200.71.91.83 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1537853728 822615 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1537853777 330364 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1537854423 742974 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1537854467 531126 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1537854763 382678 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iwqjyajutgsiyawm QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1537856802 864174 :mynery!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PART :#esoteric < 1537856868 948961 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1537856958 906216 :tromp_!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1537857121 370723 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1537858170 828554 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.163 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1537860579 248605 :runter!~runter@218.231.118.159.eo.eaccess.ne.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1537860584 767435 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zdn9kx2rnn81vw.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1537860589 795630 :runter!~runter@218.231.118.159.eo.eaccess.ne.jp QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1537862044 724747 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zdn9kx2rnn81vw.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1537863619 905593 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1537863747 354005 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-wxgrofsuwivwtraf JOIN :#esoteric < 1537863758 425026 :heroux_!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-aitqnomkwhipyiwk JOIN :#esoteric < 1537863797 583642 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@natx-145.kulnet.kuleuven.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1537866921 482335 :lobocode!~lobocode@188-230-156-137.dynamic.t-2.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1537867214 566949 :lobocode!~lobocode@188-230-156-137.dynamic.t-2.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1537867463 68045 :Blkt23!~Blkt@134.236.76.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537867715 262832 :Blkt23!~Blkt@134.236.76.4 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1537869179 330331 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.8.50.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1537872645 366041 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric > 1537872938 285369 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chipish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57760&oldid=57724 5* 03Galaxtone 5* (+12050) 10Put everything in tables, changes a few things, added timers and such. > 1537873447 631624 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chipish14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57761&oldid=57760 5* 03Galaxtone 5* (+1) 10/* Timers */ < 1537873767 372978 :dazm8!~dazm@89.107.100.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537874038 467761 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid bjam, why did we need a fourth build system intertwined with perl scripts, shell scripts, and makefiles < 1537874050 989815 :dazm8!~dazm@89.107.100.11 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1537874056 306667 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's the worst one of all < 1537874071 451139 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least I can read perl > 1537874092 890849 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chipish14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57762&oldid=57761 5* 03Galaxtone 5* (+1664) 10Added code tags for monospacing < 1537874103 735814 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How else are you going to build Forth programs < 1537874104 782439 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bjam has a confusing syntax and no documentation worth a damn < 1537874139 148669 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Is brute Forth an option? < 1537874162 185704 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I would assume you'd build Forth programs with some sort of Reverse Polish Shell < 1537874169 32574 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :repsh < 1537874192 335850 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, porsh < 1537874234 384942 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rf- rm < 1537874257 182521 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : / rf- rm sudo < 1537874373 494287 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ; { : | : } ( ) : < 1537874612 496144 :tonymke7!~tonymke@116.58.236.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537874685 922751 :tonymke7!~tonymke@116.58.236.49 QUIT :Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) < 1537876184 677660 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1537876637 106530 :Gorian6!~Gorian@softbank126028167228.bbtec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1537876646 252631 :Gorian6!~Gorian@softbank126028167228.bbtec.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1537876915 106452 :Techman27!~Techman@182.123.142.134 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537876968 369678 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537876973 680005 :Techman27!~Techman@182.123.142.134 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1537878359 305616 :imcdona17!~imcdona@171.232.160.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537878404 251798 :imcdona17!~imcdona@171.232.160.106 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1537878940 342167 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-erkjuugbrxantpko JOIN :#esoteric < 1537879895 762930 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1537880415 404479 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537880431 788876 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537880463 538213 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: darn, you're right. no timezone offset change this weekend yet. Taneb: sorry, false alarm. < 1537880485 71487 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to make my own fucking calendar webpage, one that shows both month numbers and month names. I hate how I always have to convert them in my head. < 1537880531 492365 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't everyone use month numbers in proper numerals, rather than all these stupid multilingual month names and month name abbreviations (and sometimes roman numerals for month numbers) < 1537880541 49421 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1537880568 34874 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why can't I just have a calendar that displays both the month number and the name without me having to make one? < 1537880920 119647 :ideopathic!~ideopathi@78.167.164.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537880924 731558 :ideopathic!~ideopathi@78.167.164.54 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1537881176 97366 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hcxluhvnetjvybhl QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1537881577 558411 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: oh, that's a relief < 1537881833 771755 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1537883292 831431 :sleepnap!~thomas@2603:3015:260e:1900:8319:87ab:f00:d5de JOIN :#esoteric < 1537883592 325139 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537883772 431536 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : It's not that complicated, for many months the number is right there in the name < 1537883912 266646 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: there's certainly *a* number right there in the name < 1537884169 170247 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: It gets worse because I sometimes see month names in various different languages, plus month abbreviations, plus day of week names, plus day of week abbreviations, and there's multiple languages of each and sometimes there's more than one per language and sometimes they clash or the localization databases have long-standing errors tha < 1537884169 388449 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t you can't fix without upgrading libc and upgrading libc is very hard < 1537884174 676003 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it all gets complicated < 1537884214 104362 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be so much simpler if everyone just stick to numbers and proper formatting < 1537884224 569156 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we're slowly winning space in that area < 1537884310 336426 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the old generation with their fancy 12 hour clocks with IIII on them is disappearing, people use mobile phones that show proper %H:%M time < 1537884335 956698 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"proper" < 1537884345 409521 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vendémiaire is a name full of such rich associations that it would be a shame to swap it out for a plain boring number < 1537884401 216360 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, we still have the asctime function and funny defaults for the unix date and ls commands, which we can't replace for historical compatibility reasons, but we can just avoid using those defaults < 1537884547 781115 :jwmaag9!~jwmaag@41.45.71.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537884583 443844 :jwmaag9!~jwmaag@41.45.71.173 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1537884689 582884 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, ancient unix ran on one machine with one timezone and the clock covered only a few years, so they set the default format to like Tuesday, September 25 16:09:31 and then it was too late to change that part when they added a year number, the format for asctime became like Tuesday, September 25 16:09:31 2018 (with the date number space-padd < 1537884689 760258 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ed but the weekday name and month name variable length), < 1537884807 220743 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then they thought they should add timezones too, and the format became like September 25 16:09:31 CEDT 2018 with a timezone abbreviation that is ambiguous, < 1537884890 32754 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next step is adding an unambiguous timezone identifier, a DST flag, a timezone offset in case the receiving end has an older timezone database, and subsecond precision, but thrown them in at random places in those pieces of data so you get a jumbled mess < 1537884906 858057 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or we could just use metric time < 1537884985 372873 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :September (Europe/Paris) 25 DST=1 16:09:31 CEDT 2018 .332922367 +0200 < 1537885009 716017 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I forgot the Tuesday < 1537885014 165985 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, replace the day with the hectokilosecond and the week with the megasecond < 1537885024 284011 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tuesday, September (Europe/Paris) 25 DST=1 16:09:31 CEDT 2018 .332922367 +0200 < 1537885116 881549 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all HTTP clients and mail/news readers and FTP clients have to read this sort of format, and while at least there's only one format used for HTTP, there's multiple used in mail/news headers < 1537885160 68282 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the HTTP cache control all depends on stupid historical things like that < 1537885211 926240 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when we don't have to be compatible with all protocols, but design new ones, then we can use sane formats at least < 1537885217 692328 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for protocols they should just be useing integers < 1537885231 592125 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: sure, newer protocols are saner < 1537885259 753850 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTTP and mail/news are just old formats, and it's not worth to change this now, because everyone already implements that one format for HTTP so it would be just a new compatibility problem < 1537885323 598072 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`datei < 1537885324 534273 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dateu < 1537885324 710609 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2018-09-25 14:22:03.942171888+00:00 < 1537885325 730091 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2018-09-25 14:22:05.012416556+00:00 < 1537885329 118850 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ these use saner formats < 1537885369 936702 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't have to be compatible with HTTP, they're for me to read < 1537886337 311273 :Janhouse28!~Janhouse@190.200.56.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537886584 188793 :Janhouse28!~Janhouse@190.200.56.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1537886680 896863 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1537887025 890761 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1537887119 893822 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bowsette is a stupid name, at least call her Princess Bowser or something < 1537887214 951778 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1537888634 526220 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@natx-145.kulnet.kuleuven.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1537888764 991095 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1537889275 448619 :bradcomp!~bradcomp@38.104.142.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537890292 941626 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main feature of svn over git is sequential commit numbers < 1537890346 699681 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a way for git to renumber the commits to sequential numbers when they get sent to the server < 1537890372 130233 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: could you just use hg for that? < 1537890454 52630 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, the numbers are only consistent within one repository, just like in svn, and sometimes you clone or mirror a repository with modifications like throwing away some commits or unifying two repositories or whatever, and then the sequence numbers are rearranged < 1537890495 670493 :mattwb!~mattwb@93.183.225.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537890673 322607 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it's just much more convenient in email for example to say "I caused the build to fail in revision 25502" than "I caused the build to fail starting at j24hwtfbbq" < 1537890745 930341 :mattwb!~mattwb@93.183.225.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1537890766 199390 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: sure, and if you have a central server agreed on and that commit you're talking about is there, then that works and you can send such emails. that's why hg provides both sequential numbers and hash digests. < 1537890805 618304 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you have a centeral hg repository where you never change history, that works, after you commit into that. < 1537890912 331980 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note though that in that it might technically still need a branch name (unless you never commit to the same branch twice), and in git or svn or hg if you have a branch of which you never rewrite the history, you can use a timestamp to identify the commit, and all three have an easy way to find the latest commit before a date and a branch name < 1537891096 296166 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a46c74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1537891230 590641 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, sadly it's not _that_ easy < 1537891482 983477 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use (-r "{2018-09-25T12:55:49}") as an argumen to svn for such a date, it will find the previous commit, because the commit is actually slightly after that time, at 2018-09-25T10:55:48.763811Z, but you mostly see it rounded down and in _your_ timezone. < 1537891501 778649 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So dates aren't such a good way to identify commits in emails after all < 1537891505 569163 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1537891574 151052 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you say -r "{2018-09-25T10:55:48.763811Z}" that actually finds that commit, not the previous commit, interestingly < 1537891602 257728 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but giving a full precision date or manually rounding up is not very convenient for an email < 1537891655 480256 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, you could probably implement some sort of sequential numbers in git that remain unchanged unless you rewrite the history < 1537891762 521112 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And just not committing anything that causes the build to fail isn't enough, because then you still have to write emails like "You caused the build to fail starting at " when somebody else does that < 1537891795 71295 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously you'd be more specific in the email, telling what kind of failure you get < 1537892090 579780 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client > 1537893726 918127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07\ () /14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57763&oldid=57759 5* 03Ais523 5* (+31) 10{{DISPLAYTITLE}} < 1537895590 793961 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:fb8b:fb15:c1d3:a33a JOIN :#esoteric < 1537895590 970394 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:fb8b:fb15:c1d3:a33a QUIT :Changing host < 1537895590 970437 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1537895642 766282 :moei!~moei@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1537897049 246663 :haveo14!~haveo@156.195.166.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1537897104 115001 :haveo14!~haveo@156.195.166.120 QUIT 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