< 1538697924 762144 :Gr1zzly!~Gr1zzly@host28.186-109-9.telecom.net.ar JOIN :#esoteric < 1538698131 642021 :Gr1zzly!~Gr1zzly@host28.186-109-9.telecom.net.ar QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1538698609 604959 :sleepnap!~thomas@2603:3015:260e:1900:8319:87ab:f00:d5de PART :#esoteric < 1538701489 379818 :doesthiswork!~doesthisw@207.55.82.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538701889 21375 :BigEPd!~BigE@46.1.204.182 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538702164 763742 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1538702191 278767 :BigEPd!~BigE@46.1.204.182 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1538702695 341703 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@46.191.130.119 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1538703465 840703 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1538704686 788858 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1538705052 771600 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1538705406 851343 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1538705742 353610 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric > 1538706775 85360 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57931&oldid=57893 5* 03A 5* (+111) 10 < 1538707516 331658 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1538708889 906317 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did a thing https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/1048017789884067840 < 1538709036 501627 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1538709978 492162 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1538710722 782179 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1538711156 569845 :folivoraLl!~folivora@186-88-203-74.genericrev.cantv.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1538711429 463700 :folivoraLl!~folivora@186-88-203-74.genericrev.cantv.net QUIT :K-Lined < 1538711864 799493 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ppp-103-253.dynamic.bellmts.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1538712459 987539 :Guest57505!~TJ-@156.212.65.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538712642 803777 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1538712838 321783 :Guest57505!~TJ-@156.212.65.167 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1538713779 422149 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1538715128 381700 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :*.net *.split < 1538715128 514476 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :*.net *.split < 1538715429 113025 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1538715429 113078 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1538717071 325354 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds > 1538717097 246225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Code box.png10]]" < 1538717527 616813 :cn28hDI!~cn28h@pool-96-255-168-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1538717771 310666 :olsner!~salparot@c83-253-165-33.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1538717891 608947 :cn28hDI!~cn28h@pool-96-255-168-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1538717919 549160 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric > 1538718097 270118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57933&oldid=57931 5* 03A 5* (+0) 10 < 1538718101 773415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I was hoping that'd be a new olist < 1538718114 409319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should we expect the update Fri or Sat? < 1538718157 25260 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should come sometime before THEC64 hands over their source code as required by the GPL < 1538718280 345988 :olsner!~salparot@c83-253-165-33.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1538719161 533759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other Magic: the Gathering cards do you like to make up (both Un-cards and proper cards)? I did some Un-cards such as, you must rip this card in half as you draft it, and one card "bands with other creatures having at least as much faith as this one" < 1538719242 358512 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :faith? < 1538719329 625603 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is meaningless, but that card also has the "faith-healing" keyword ability (which is not defined anywhere, because it is a priest of the future who has not even been invented yet, presumably) < 1538719346 302744 :doesthiswork!~doesthisw@207.55.82.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1538719569 946333 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one card has "blanding" (this creature is less interesting than the other creatures). < 1538719742 455425 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One card (suggested by my brother) is "In A Band With Others": When enchanted creature attacks as part of a band including other creatures too, then the active player must sing a song for the entire duration of the attack. Damage is not dealt until song is completed. < 1538720023 5189 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dbsmwzwmzhhwyzmd QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1538720237 221251 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue QUIT :Quit: Temporarily refracted into a free-standing prism. < 1538720383 792055 :Hoolootwo!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1538720620 654907 :vikikas!~vikikas@14.37.127.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538720941 694029 :vikikas!~vikikas@14.37.127.14 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1538721125 308233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Golf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57934&oldid=54651 5* 03A 5* (+22) 10bf core < 1538722065 893891 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1538722080 447944 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1538722183 33606 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the legal defence if you asked someone who has stolen someone else's pig for the pig back, and they refuse several times, and then you go in and get it (ending up killing people who are attacking you to get it) and a wheelbarrow (to carry the pig) and bring it back to its rightful owner, who then returns the wheelbarrow? < 1538723315 234089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the parenthetical bit where you kill the people might be a bit problematic. < 1538723430 49365 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1538723465 35213 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1538727665 469360 :suddenDm!~sudden@103.98.191.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538728019 788256 :suddenDm!~sudden@103.98.191.38 QUIT :K-Lined < 1538728284 115934 :Cmp|Z420!~Cmp|Z420@90.252.236.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538728318 210405 :Cmp|Z420!~Cmp|Z420@90.252.236.41 QUIT :K-Lined < 1538728409 465914 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538728502 192595 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "the only settings for captions is which caption to display, not the font styles or anything like that" => < 1538728503 120643 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAIK, at least on DVD video formats, captions are included as some sort of compressed bitmap image, not text. This was done because back when the first DVD players appeared, they were really primitive, and they didn't want to guarantee that they have a font rendering support for all current and future script, including ones that require tricky eng < 1538728503 297802 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ines. < 1538728565 448217 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These days people also use captions as time-tagged text in a separate file for videos played on a computer, mostly to allow fan-made English captions for anime. < 1538728609 798590 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help with your original caption on hotel TV connection. < 1538728658 774351 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "What other Magic: the Gathering cards do you like to make up (both Un-cards and proper cards)?" => there's a few I mentioned in the logs. < 1538728886 800562 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zf5tit6s260cpd.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1538728888 795506 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My favorite is still this old one that is probably balanced and non-un but probably won't be published in an official set. Name not known yet; Mana cost: 1W; Type: Enchantment Aura; Text: Enchant creature / All permanents have protection from enchanted creature. < 1538728938 698190 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: re "bands with other creatures having at least as much faith as this one" => That's made for the new "bands with" rule, right? < 1538729123 844955 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: re stolen pig, I don't know the answer, but perhaps look at http://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=871 and following comics for at least a partial answer in the U.S. < 1538729748 280173 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: on the more practical side of the stolen pig: (1) don't do that; (2) if you've done that or are seriously planning to do that, get a lawyer; (3) if your pig is stolen, you asked for it and they don't give it back, you still want the pig back, and you can convince others that it's probably your pig, then report that to the police. < 1538729818 346980 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know where the pig is, the police can likely help you to get it back. < 1538732364 989332 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh! I'd like to name a readme file such that it's sorted first in many directory listing sort methods people generally use, and the files in this directory have names like "img7556-*.jpg" and "P1*.JPG". "00README.1ST" would work and is a common convention (or used to be) but is so ugly that I don't want to use it. < 1538732380 982270 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best method may be to rename all those other files. < 1538732467 385933 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's what I'll do, rename the files to more reasonable names. < 1538732506 388322 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't do 8.3 names because we're finally past the time when that matters (in most situations), but I still won't use very long names, because I hate those. < 1538735209 759313 :y6ty!~y6ty@125.143.186.240 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538735341 558623 :y6ty!~y6ty@125.143.186.240 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1538735475 86516 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1538735866 15836 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, I renamed them all < 1538736582 636000 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And named the file readme.txt < 1538736636 186800 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which still isn't perfect, because if you sort by _extension_ (which isn't rare), then that file is last, after the *.jpg, but I don't care about that < 1538739744 69439 :doesthiswork!~doesthisw@207.55.82.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538739828 389609 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1538740260 807061 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zf5tit6s260cpd.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1538741116 267010 :howlymowly!~howlymowl@203.76.250.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538741216 715333 :howlymowly!~howlymowl@203.76.250.203 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1538741452 888654 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57935&oldid=57933 5* 03A 5* (-64) 10 < 1538742270 54603 :voss!~perrier@45.248.78.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538742283 44375 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@46.191.130.119 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538742970 773202 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kgchqljedgbqolpz JOIN :#esoteric < 1538742985 404406 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1538743417 697876 :Guest34767!~epony@140.0.30.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538743628 505126 :Guest34767!~epony@140.0.30.194 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1538744499 735515 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: just start the file name with a space :P < 1538744549 234150 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ls < 1538744549 323320 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :' README' img1 < 1538744551 648002 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1538744551 648057 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Variable not in scope: ls < 1538744551 648070 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1538744562 39060 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: sorry < 1538744565 100205 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1538744565 498160 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1538744804 471331 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, that can be funny. windows 10 File Explorer's version-sort sorts such a filename before other filenames because of the space, but if you try to rename it in File Explorer by removing the space but changing nothing else, it refuses saying that "The source and destination filenames are the same", < 1538744869 868464 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite that the filenames aren't the same according to the file system, and that File Explorer allows renames that differ only in uppercase vs lowercase, which are the same according to the file system. < 1538744892 578106 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :File Explorer is strange: it refuses you to rename files to start with a dot, despite that the file system and the "REN" builtin of cmd allows such renames. < 1538744910 844663 :xniegabe!~xniega@111.94.81.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538744930 685451 :OS-16517!~OS-16517@180-196-208-253.nagoya1.commufa.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1538744952 851242 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you try to rename a file to start with a space in File Explorer, it silently strips the space and does the rename that way. < 1538745030 98172 :xniegabe!~xniega@111.94.81.23 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1538745214 55147 :OS-16517!~OS-16517@180-196-208-253.nagoya1.commufa.jp QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1538745356 525491 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1538745708 797862 :shiinko!~shiinko@78.165.60.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538745816 359938 :shiinko!~shiinko@78.165.60.219 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1538746197 728999 :sleepnap!~thomas@2603:3015:260e:1900::13ed JOIN :#esoteric < 1538746382 458554 :dudzUN!~dudz@182.90.37.19 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538746782 198781 :dudzUN!~dudz@182.90.37.19 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1538746937 551482 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ppp-103-253.dynamic.bellmts.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1538748410 68425 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a46c74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric > 1538748914 654242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Rockstar14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57936&oldid=57930 5* 03Dylanbeattie 5* (-7) 10/* Implementations */ < 1538749349 29769 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538749399 339566 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 and others: this one is a week old but hasn't been posted yet: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/guilds-ravnica-update-bulletin-2018-09-28 M:tG Guilds of Ravnica Update Bulletin < 1538749406 998983 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Client Quit > 1538749847 389143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Dotlang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57937&oldid=57885 5* 03Andrew3335 5* (-142) 10 < 1538752258 701986 :gambl0re!~gambl0re@79.113.183.39 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538752415 500752 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538752480 889733 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? they printed a sunburst creature in Guilds of Ravnica? without mentioning "sunburst"? wow < 1538752630 72046 :gambl0re!~gambl0re@79.113.183.39 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1538753335 676909 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1538753457 814003 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@ec2-52-79-98-81.ap-northeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1538753476 393411 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@ec2-52-79-98-81.ap-northeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1538753683 341742 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538753771 363729 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ouch. http://magiccards.info just redirects to scryfall now. that's sad, because magiccards.info was actually better in some things. but then, these M:tG card databases are hard to keep up to date, so I can understand it. so now we have only scryfall and yawgatog, besides Wizards' own terrible site. < 1538753813 639088 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that makes it more important to scrape all that data, repeat that four times a year, and save local copies of everything < 1538753881 436190 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you collect and publish the comp rules and card history anywhere currently? < 1538753991 823968 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://media.wizards.com/2018/downloads/MagicCompRules%2020181005.txt share/mtg/MagicCompRules-20181005.txt < 1538753992 814912 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http:/media.wizards.com/2018/downloads/MagicCompRules%2020181005.txt: No such file or directory < 1538754023 355009 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch share/mtg/MagicCompRules-20181005.txt http://media.wizards.com/2018/downloads/MagicCompRules%2020181005.txt < 1538754024 395914 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2018-10-05 15:40:23 URL:http://media.wizards.com/2018/downloads/MagicCompRules%2020181005.txt [707789/707789] -> "share/mtg/MagicCompRules-20181005.txt" [1] < 1538754106 785328 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch share/mtg/allsets-2018-05-21.zip https://yawgatog.com/resources/oracle/All%20Sets-2018-05-21.zip < 1538754109 139188 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2018-10-05 15:41:48 URL:https://yawgatog.com/resources/oracle/All%20Sets-2018-05-21.zip [825483/825483] -> "share/mtg/allsets-2018-05-21.zip" [1] < 1538754119 483930 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unzip share/mtg/allsets-2018-05-21.zip < 1538754120 152650 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: unzip: not found < 1538754126 239215 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gunzip share/mtg/allsets-2018-05-21.zip < 1538754126 924911 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gzip: share/mtg/allsets-2018-05-21.zip: unknown suffix -- ignored < 1538754137 799701 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gzip -dc share/mtg/allsets-2018-05-21.zip < 1538754138 422036 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gzip: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `gzip --help' for more information. < 1538754145 480635 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` gzip -dc share/mtg/allsets-2018-05-21.zip < 1538754146 171607 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Ach! Hans, Run!" \ 2RRGG \ Enchantment \ At the beginning of your upkeep, you may say "Ach! Hans, run! It's the . . ." and the name of a creature card. If you do, search your library for a card with that name, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library. That creature gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step. \ UNH-R \ \ "Rumors of My Death . . ." \ 2B \ Enchantment \ {3}{B}, Exile a permanent you control with a League of < 1538754158 92353 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` gzip -dc share/mtg/allsets-2018-05-21.zip > allsets-2018-05-21.txt < 1538754159 947321 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1538754192 454219 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` rm -v allsets-*.txt; gzip -dc share/mtg/allsets-2018-05-21.zip > share/mtg/allsets-2018-05-21.txt < 1538754194 463071 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :removed 'allsets-2018-05-21.txt' < 1538754207 191918 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` wc share/mtg/allsets-2018-05-21.txt < 1538754207 863097 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 131997 588226 3552253 share/mtg/allsets-2018-05-21.txt < 1538754225 388362 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ln -s allsets-2018-05-21.txt share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1538754226 23655 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: failed to create symbolic link 'share/mtg/allsets.txt': File exists < 1538754231 632134 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ln -sf allsets-2018-05-21.txt share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1538754233 450163 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1538754242 388673 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name coiling oracle < 1538754244 372415 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coiling Oracle \ GU \ Creature -- Snake Elf Druid \ 1/1 \ When Coiling Oracle enters the battlefield, reveal the top card of your library. If it's a land card, put it onto the battlefield. Otherwise, put that card into your hand. \ DIS-C, C15-C, CN2-U, C16-C, MM3-C, DDO-C < 1538754252 711918 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Chamber Sentry < 1538754253 420031 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1538754295 101376 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name skyscanner < 1538754295 790210 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1538754376 511705 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name shivan fire < 1538754377 179700 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shivan Fire \ R \ Instant \ Kicker {4} (You may pay an additional {4} as you cast this spell.) \ Shivan Fire deals 2 damage to target creature. If this spell was kicked, it deals 4 damage to that creature instead. \ DOM-C < 1538754405 242706 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so yawgatog doesn't even have the M2019 set yet < 1538754431 866046 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Core set 2019 or whatever that's called < 1538754848 70984 :gigoCM!~gigo@121.131.5.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538755082 750364 :gigoCM!~gigo@121.131.5.239 QUIT :K-Lined < 1538755579 126906 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name evolving wilds < 1538755579 767185 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evolving Wilds \ Land \ {T}, Sacrifice Evolving Wilds: Search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library. \ ROE-C, CMD-C, DKA-C, M13-C, C13-C, M15-C, C14-C, DTK-C, MM2-C, ORI-C, BFZ-C, C15-C, CN2-C, C16-C, AKH-C, CMA-C, C17-C, IMA-C, RIX-C, DDH-C, DDK-C, DDN-C, DDO-C, DDP-C < 1538755583 64913 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name terramorphic expanse < 1538755583 756695 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terramorphic Expanse \ Land \ {T}, Sacrifice Terramorphic Expanse: Search your library for a basic land card and put it onto the battlefield tapped. Then shuffle your library. \ TSP-C, 10E-C, M10-C, HOP-C, ARC-C, M11-C, CMD-C, PC2-C, MMA-C, C13-C, C14-C, C15-C, C16-C, PCA-C, CMA-C, C17-C, DDE-C, DDH-C, DDN-C, H09-C < 1538755658 853135 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ^ apparently the text difference is now fixed in Gatherer. let me try to find out when they did that. < 1538755762 545534 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. It doesn't seem to be mentioned in any of the recent Update Bulletins, despite that it must have changed recently, since they still differ in Yawgatog. < 1538756150 1485 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the strange part is that both cards have printed versions with the dot and with the comma. The latest printed versions and the most recent oracle text has the comma. < 1538756747 7405 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1538757841 23902 :voss!~perrier@45.248.78.163 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1538758504 113343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have now downloaded the new rules. < 1538758700 499193 :michchapmv!~michchap@189.193.116.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538758782 146355 :michchapmv!~michchap@189.193.116.128 QUIT :K-Lined < 1538758947 903481 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1538759617 887898 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not going to to the stuff with the stolen pig of course though; it is for a game. Those attackers who prevented us are not necessarily dead but probably are, but they were attacking with crossbow and hatchet. (Actually, one of us stole the arrows from the crossbow too.) < 1538761519 305391 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kgchqljedgbqolpz QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity > 1538762610 363748 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:DMC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57938&oldid=57482 5* 03DMC 5* (+7) 10 > 1538763036 280777 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Binaryfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57939&oldid=36330 5* 03DMC 5* (+69) 10 < 1538763537 921849 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:fb8b:fb15:c1d3:a33a JOIN :#esoteric < 1538763538 54473 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:fb8b:fb15:c1d3:a33a QUIT :Changing host < 1538763538 54518 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1538764367 94469 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uiximgtjornnyrsf JOIN :#esoteric < 1538764969 826527 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538765062 427555 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :From an automatic email response: "We process customer contacts in the order they are received" wait what? < 1538765064 821401 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't such a guarantee silly to make in case you want to grow your customer service department to more than one person working independently at the same time? In fact, since this is a large organization, I suspect the sentence is already a lie because customer support is already bigger than that. < 1538765122 647040 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computer scientists have already ran into that problem a few times when they started optimizing CPUs or compilers but wanted to keep various guarantees the old documentation promised or the old code assumed. < 1538765167 551184 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, there's an even worse version, the one where you are not only guaranteed to process requests in order, but also assign them sequential ID numbers without gaps or the lowest currently unused descriptor number. < 1538765187 963049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"process" might mean something weaker < 1538765224 500992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's one customer queue and customers are "processed" by passing them to a person < 1538765251 603507 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sure, it might mean that they only _start_ to process my request, and if it is a request that requires a longer time to solve then they'll respond to me and put it into background. < 1538765266 137420 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they don't call that processing anymore. < 1538765295 551358 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but if the meaning of "process" is practically nothing, then why put that sentence there at all? < 1538765360 3950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The phrasing I find very strange is "your request will be processed in the order it was received" < 1538765444 943939 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall linux has had some minor trouble on multi-threaded programs because unix and SUSV and POSIX guarantees that new file descriptions always get the lowest free natural number as their ID, and there are now pseudo-file-descriptors for all sorts of resources a process can hold, and each thread can create or dup new file descriptors or close exi < 1538765444 944006 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sting ones. < 1538765473 929544 :sleepnap!~thomas@2603:3015:260e:1900::13ed PART :#esoteric < 1538765496 381678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly guarantee. < 1538765512 429434 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you may have to lock across multiple CPUs at the same time for that, which very rarely causes a problem, but is nevertheless entirely silly, because no sane program actually wants to rely on that behavior across multiple threads, but it's still too late to change the guarantee now. < 1538765615 767568 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multithreading can sometimes cause many problems if you do these kind of thing within multiple threads. < 1538765629 174230 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a few programs rely on that behavior to close and reopen some of the low 3 file descriptions (stdin, stdout, stderr), < 1538765644 546815 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though they could just open the new descriptor and then dup2 instad, but you can't easily fix existing programs. < 1538765782 926176 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, many health care institutions specifically have signs that they *do not* guarantee to process patients in the order they arrive; and even more mundane places like banks or in-person customer service centers that have a queuing ticket machine print a warning to the ticket that customers aren't necessarily called in the order of the number o < 1538765783 58476 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :n the ticket. < 1538765868 329203 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The signs are there to have something to point at if someone gets upset that they're attended to later than someone who has arrived after them. In health care institutions, this is necessary because different patients can have different priority, and in other institutions, it's usually because not all employees can handle all types of requests so t < 1538765868 458583 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here are multiple intermixed queues. < 1538765891 595221 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In both cases there can also be some parallelism, but that alone isn't the reason for the signs. < 1538765918 148484 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some health care wards also have specific signs for what specific cases let you jump to the front of the queue. < 1538766003 88492 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These can include emergencies, patients with transplants that are on immune suppressants, patients that have to return very often, and cases that are handled very quickly. < 1538766063 433376 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some wards also have rules for which cases are when you don't have to ask for an appointment time in advance, when they usually have queues longer than a week but let a few urgent patients skip that. < 1538766074 782974 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This can apply even to non-emergency cases. < 1538766293 445490 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The strangest case is traumatology, which apparently only has two levels with nothing between: urgent care traumatology called “baleseti sebészet” (approx. accident surgery), which means that some hospital has an urgent care center taking patients any time, even at night or holidays, and you can enter without asking for an appointment any time, tho < 1538766293 578497 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh they have different priorities among people who arrive; < 1538766374 16039 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and non-urgent care, in a completely different department called “ortopédia”, for which you need an appointment with a waiting list of often a month, and is open only on weekday working hours. < 1538766460 408807 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most other branches of healthcare have urgent and non-urgent outpatient care at the same department, so during the opening hour of the non-urgent care, urgent cases go to the same place as non-urgent cases, though they might be able to jump the queue. < 1538766490 631815 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although admittedly some brances don't have urgent care at all. < 1538766601 292650 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since in many cases, you are restricted in which hospital or ward you can use by where you live, and the restriction depends on whether it's in normal opening hours or not, in practice for most people there are departments where they have to go to entirely different hospitals or wards for urgent care. < 1538766779 949393 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most clear example is maxillofacial surgery (orthodental surgery): at any one time outside working hours there is only one non-private hospital open for urgent maxillofacial surgical care in the entire Budapest, and this role cycles between three hospitals by a very complicated schedule; but a lot of different hospitals have a non-urgent outpat < 1538766780 78578 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ient maxillofacial surgery department open on normal working hours. < 1538766845 126958 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"normal" in a somewhat relaxed sense, the exact hours a non-urgent outpatient hospital department is open can be strange, but it's definitely only on workdays and never during the night. < 1538766984 18885 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1538766993 636118 :EvilDMPzp!~EvilDMP@c-b013e253.06-95-67626729.bbcust.telenor.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1538767023 273509 :EvilDMPzp!~EvilDMP@c-b013e253.06-95-67626729.bbcust.telenor.se QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1538767227 175468 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, workdays, sign. Between 1991 and approximately 2006, workdays were simple. Every day is a worday unless it's a Saturday, Sunday, falls on any of the calendar dates --01-01, --03-15, --05-01, --08-20, --10-23, --11-01, --12-25, --12-26, or the Monday after Easter or the Monday after Pentecost. < 1538767419 708443 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since approximately 2007, they started modifying this by adding between zero and five inclusive pairs of swapped workdays per year, where a certain Saturday is a workday despite the previous rule, but in balance, a certain weekday (which is either a Monday or Friday adjacent to a normal non-workday, or is on --12-24 or --12-31) is not a workday < 1538767419 838499 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. Also, since 2017, the Friday before Easter is an additional non-working day. < 1538767556 771011 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the bad part is that the swapped workdays are announced by the government only late in the previous calendar year. They've been doing such an announcement separately for like ten years now. Why can't they just make up their mind and write a law that defines them in every future year (until they change that law)? < 1538767877 829620 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that --10-23 was added as a state holiday in 1990, so the system was unchanged from 1990 to 2009, but I'm not sure about the 2009. < 1538767949 920324 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the 1990 makes sense. That's a law they wanted to make quickly. < 1538768108 410144 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-137-99.cdrr.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1538768277 719930 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a beeping sound somewhere, but it's rare and (so far) unpredictable so i haven't found the source yet. i hope it's not the laptop. < 1538768284 467372 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm now there were several. < 1538768360 650130 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a troubling hunch that it only happens when i'm typing. < 1538768389 428146 :olsner!~salparot@c83-253-165-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow read typing as dying there < 1538768442 432249 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If *I* started a country, then I'd make most of the non-weekend state holidays moving around according to some weighted pseudorandom procedure, in such a way that they can fall on basically any calendar day, but some are bunched up to form four adjacent non-workdays, and you can compute their dates with a simple deterministic publically documented < 1538768442 521264 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :algorithm, so anyone can plan in advance for holidays for as long in the future as the government or Earth's rotation exists, whichever is shorter. < 1538768512 904483 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I'd still have the government declare next year's holidays in the previous year, but not their set of dates, but what each holiday is officially a memorial or celebration or grieving for, though that is only for informational purposes, not mandatory. < 1538768610 811824 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then if we want to incorporate a holiday for some event, then like every five years while we still think that thing is relevant enoguh to have a memorial for, we name one of the holidays from the event, even though the date of the holiday was known to be a non-workday long ago, possibly before that event. < 1538768964 191280 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm testing by typing nonsense with the laptop off to the side seems a bit inconclusive. i think it might be an interaction with my tinnitus. < 1538769123 654913 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what OS and relevant software is the laptop running? can the beeping be coming from outside your house? is it single beeps, or a reuglar pattern of two or more beeps with less than a few seconds between? < 1538769178 508726 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not my washing machine, is it? /me goes to check < 1538769221 552021 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, not my washing machine, and not my oven clock < 1538769235 40437 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: could it be an alert from an irc client or other chat thingy? < 1538769327 7623 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-137-99.cdrr.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1538769446 461274 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm there it was again, that's _not_ a tinnitus sound. < 1538769476 519028 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: must be me pinging you in irc < 1538769479 753567 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and didn't really happen when i was typing. < 1538769498 136508 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: check your chat cilent < 1538769505 819003 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no beeping set for irc. < 1538769538 412437 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also _not_ the kind of sound a computer would make on purpose. < 1538769541 382277 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but my keyboard is clicky < 1538769570 721460 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you're hearing the clicky sounds distorted by IRC < 1538769599 202852 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it _does_ remind me of the time some years back when the oven heat detector started nagging for new batteries. but i think that sound was different. < 1538769609 825247 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats wob_jonas -----### < 1538769635 212353 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the swatter is out of practice, and this seemed like a good opportunity. < 1538769659 373393 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i was going to write down the times. < 1538769665 698869 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION becomes flat _______ < 1538769721 924281 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to be 20 minutes since the last one. if that's regular, i should be able to prepare to triangulate. < 1538769755 467696 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i'm pretty sure there were several in a row last time < 1538769786 322860 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still quite ready to blame the neighbor or some other device if i can just get a clear direction that's _not_ towards my laptop. < 1538769844 703427 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most recent one _did_ sound like it could be the kitchen < 1538769948 612862 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the old days, I'd say remove the battery from your laptop and if you still get the sound more than 30 seconds after that, then it's not the laptop. these days laptops are so complicated and have extra batteries inside that are used for things other than keeping a wall clock running that I wouldn't swear that works. < 1538770056 527992 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i haven't heard it with the laptop off yet. < 1538770071 303150 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also i didn't hear it earlier today when i was using it. < 1538770131 765767 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i was going to make some food -> < 1538770290 601435 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but if you make food then you'll get noises from the kitchen that mask the beeps, or even beeps from kitchen implements < 1538770303 942845 :wob_jonas!b03f1920@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.32 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1538770306 336803 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1538770437 605829 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :laptops are easy in that they can be removed from the flat. < 1538770601 884598 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1538770863 834836 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only relevant kitchen implement is the fridge. < 1538770891 377638 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is indeed noisy. anyway, i didn't hear anything around the 20 min mark. < 1538771058 378392 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the stuff about the game with stealing back the stolen pig: http://zzo38computer.org/gurpsgame/1.ui/wiki?name=Session+16 > 1538771067 332178 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Golf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57940&oldid=57934 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-22) 10Undo revision 57934 by [[Special:Contributions/A|A]] ([[User talk:A|talk]]) (Irrelevant mention in a section that is about initial implementations.) < 1538771119 726576 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1538771132 739341 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there it was again. < 1538771201 778959 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't patient enough for this irregular waiting. < 1538771205 752220 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know what noise that is either, I think. Did you try the refrigerator? Mine sometimes beeps < 1538771216 78485 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm once more. < 1538771258 389139 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs more data collection. < 1538771292 209369 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can write it down < 1538771304 570452 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am. < 1538771383 347562 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it seems to be about once a minute. < 1538771453 457202 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put the data into the computer so that it can be analyzed. < 1538771743 298619 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :annoyingly, as soon as i tried doing something different, the every-minute row stopped. < 1538774818 601175 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite > 1538775115 960185 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Hello World MineFriff.png10]]" > 1538775769 50852 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Fizzbuzz.png10]]" < 1538776112 722854 :doesthiswork!~doesthisw@207.55.82.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a binaural microphone to triangulate the source of any unusual sounds > 1538776368 919162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MineFriff14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=57943 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+11277) 10Added MineFriff Esolang < 1538776437 314326 :wob_jonas!b03f18d7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538776453 116589 :wob_jonas!b03f18d7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, there are now micro SD cards of 400 GB capacity > 1538776458 918159 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57944&oldid=57929 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+16) 10 < 1538776541 44499 :wob_jonas!b03f18d7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and apparently also micro SD cards of 1 MB capacity. > 1538776556 433090 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MineFriff14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57945&oldid=57943 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+91) 10 > 1538776596 850689 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MineFriff14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57946&oldid=57945 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+17) 10 > 1538776621 292970 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MineFriff14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57947&oldid=57946 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+25) 10 > 1538776635 605594 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MineFriff14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57948&oldid=57947 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+0) 10 < 1538777011 661619 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1538777187 130815 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a46c74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1538778885 388702 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1538778926 505279 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1538779303 100237 :wob_jonas!b03f18d7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.215 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1538779725 906598 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1538779759 104776 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1538780307 243279 :youamkK!~youam@61.7.170.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538780343 209927 :youamkK!~youam@61.7.170.29 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1538781270 182016 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Quit: Qutting < 1538782071 61584 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1538783157 641826 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bfjoust < 1538783158 635371 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfjoust is a spamming tool for #esoteric. < 1538783168 326826 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grWp bfjoust < 1538783169 200116 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfjoust:bfjoust is a spamming tool for #esoteric. \ minpoijjikop:Minpoijjikop bfjoustioppl sdardqwcasf uyvjhyb mipjkpmo. < 1538783177 227512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grWp hill < 1538783178 81148 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1538783182 614787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1538783182 614845 :fungot`!~fungot@88.98.228.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ . < 1538783218 490093 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1538783235 488047 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1538783589 932989 :edwinbalanirQ!~edwinbala@105.107.168.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1538783761 18144 :edwinbalanirQ!~edwinbala@105.107.168.22 QUIT :K-Lined