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05:00:08 <izabera> https://pastagen.github.io/
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10:04:40 <wob_jonas> Buying a cheap but usable keyboard from my own money and bringing it in to work was a really good choice. And I'm a computer guy, so they gave me actual keybaords, not a cashier or mobile phone company customer service guy who's forced to use a touchscreen, and they gave me two more types of keyboards to try when I didn't like the first one, but st
10:04:41 <wob_jonas> ill this cheap one tops any of those three easily.
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11:00:44 <wob_jonas> Argh, this is a stressful day during work. Good thing I'm going to leave early.\
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13:14:38 <int-e> fungot: hello
13:14:38 <fungot> int-e: utf-8 is an encoding for humans to tell the time in symbolic processing programs.
13:15:01 <int-e> `? utf-8
13:15:02 <HackEso> utf-8? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
13:15:04 <int-e> `? utf8
13:15:06 <HackEso> utf8? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
13:15:10 <int-e> `? unicode
13:15:11 <HackEso> Unicode is a mess invented in 1988 by Xerox, Microsoft, the Spanish Inquisition, and the evil Human Supremacy Corporation, in order to make it easier for the government to spy on Chinese people.
13:15:30 <int-e> `learn utf-8 is an encoding for humans to tell the time in symbolic processing programs.
13:15:33 <HackEso> Learned 'utf-8': utf-8 is an encoding for humans to tell the time in symbolic processing programs.
13:16:40 <int-e> `` ln -s wisdom/{utf-8,utf8}
13:16:42 <HackEso> No output.
13:16:44 <int-e> err
13:17:22 <int-e> `` rm wisdom/utf8; ln wisdom/{utf-8,utf8}
13:17:24 <HackEso> No output.
13:18:16 <int-e> `? fungot
13:18:16 <fungot> int-e: consider the example in cps.
13:18:17 <HackEso> fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason.
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13:54:35 <wob_jonas> \oren\: I wonder why unicode put so many rare latin letters for african languages that nobody really writes and IPA stuff and combining marks and all that sort of nonsense in the low 2048 codepoints, like between U+0180 and U+036F inclusive, when those low 2048 characters (the ones that take one or two bytes in utf-8) are so precious.
13:55:00 <wob_jonas> Wouldn't they have been better used for characters that more people are likely to use often, like fullwidth kana?
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14:14:12 <wob_jonas> Mind you, some of the rest of that 2048 is actually useful stuff, like cyrillic and hebrew characters
14:21:30 <wob_jonas> int-e, Firefly: can you help figure out this nonsense and put it right? vvv
14:21:36 <wob_jonas> ``` hg cat -r11321 wisdom/fonts
14:21:37 <HackEso> ​ , FireFly's fonts http://xen.firefly.nu/up/fonts/ & https://twitter.com/FireyFly/status/899965577481129984
14:21:38 <wob_jonas> ``` cat wisdom/font
14:21:39 <HackEso> ​#esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz , fizzie's font https://github.com/fis/rfk86/tree/master/web/font , FireFly's fonts http://xen.firefly.nu/up/fonts/
14:21:40 <wob_jonas> ``` cat wisdom/fonts
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14:21:40 <HackEso> ​ , FireFly's fonts http://xen.firefly.nu/up/fonts/ & https://twitter.com/FireyFly/status/899965577481129984
14:23:52 <int-e> `paste wisdom/fonts
14:23:52 <HackEso> https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/file/tip/wisdom/fonts
14:26:19 <int-e> `le/rn fonts//#esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ https://lifthrasiir.github.io/unison/sample.png , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz , fizzie's font https://github.com/fis/rfk86/tree/master/web/font , FireFly's fonts http://xen.firefly.nu/up/fonts/ &...
14:26:21 <HackEso> Relearned 'fonts': #esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ https://lifthrasiir.github.io/unison/sample.png , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz , fizzie's font https://github.com/fis/rfk86/tree/master/web/font , FireFly's fonts http://xen.firefly.nu/up/fonts/ &...
14:26:25 <int-e> ...https://twitter.com/FireyFly/status/899965577481129984
14:26:28 <int-e> meh
14:27:18 <int-e> `slwd wisdom//s=...$= https://twitter.com/FireyFly/status/899965577481129984=
14:27:19 <HackEso> wisdom//wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and, uh, that other one? It started with, like, an https://twitter.com/FireyFly/status/899965577481129984
14:27:27 <int-e> `revert
14:27:28 <HackEso> Done.
14:27:34 <int-e> `slwd fonts//s=...$= https://twitter.com/FireyFly/status/899965577481129984=
14:27:36 <HackEso> fonts//#esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ https://lifthrasiir.github.io/unison/sample.png , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz , fizzie's font https://github.com/fis/rfk86/tree/master/web/font , FireFly's fonts http://xen.firefly.nu/up/fonts/ & https://twitter.com/FireyFly/status/899965577481129984
14:27:51 <int-e> something like that
14:29:36 <int-e> `? font
14:29:37 <HackEso> ​#esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz , fizzie's font https://github.com/fis/rfk86/tree/master/web/font , FireFly's fonts http://xen.firefly.nu/up/fonts/
14:29:39 <int-e> `? fonts
14:29:40 <HackEso> ​#esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ https://lifthrasiir.github.io/unison/sample.png , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz , fizzie's font https://github.com/fis/rfk86/tree/master/web/font , FireFly's fonts http://xen.firefly.nu/up/fonts/ & https://twitter.com/FireyFly/status/899965577481129984
14:29:47 <int-e> okay, I'm confused.
14:30:18 <lifthrasiir> also pretty much confused for multiple mentions.
14:30:24 <lifthrasiir> hi ya
14:32:11 <wob_jonas> hi lifthrashiir, sorry for the pings, it's just a wisdom entry that got too long and you're mentioned in it
14:32:42 <wob_jonas> int-e: part of the problem is that the wisdom entry got too long. perhaps we should remove the second link for lifthr's font
14:33:46 <int-e> `rm wisdom/fonts
14:33:47 <HackEso> No output.
14:33:49 <int-e> `? fonts
14:33:50 <HackEso> ​#esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz , fizzie's font https://github.com/fis/rfk86/tree/master/web/font , FireFly's fonts http://xen.firefly.nu/up/fonts/
14:34:02 <wob_jonas> `? font
14:34:05 <HackEso> ​#esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz , fizzie's font https://github.com/fis/rfk86/tree/master/web/font , FireFly's fonts http://xen.firefly.nu/up/fonts/
14:34:31 <int-e> there's no good reason to have both 'font' and 'fonts'... and the former is the one that looks more up to date.
14:35:07 <int-e> (in that somebody went through the effort of removing the samples to make more room)
14:36:22 <int-e> where somebody = wob_jonas
14:37:07 <wob_jonas> int-e: yes, I guess I just didn't notice that there was also a wisdom/fonts, and maybe I'm responsible for creating that one... let me see
14:37:25 <wob_jonas> how does the builtin `paste work?
14:38:12 <lifthrasiir> wob_jonas: UTF-8 was pretty much an afterthought for Unicode, the original Unicode standard was roughly structured into general (smaller) scripts (U+0xxx & 1xxx), punctuations and symbols (U+2xxx), CJK scripts (U+3xxx and beyond), private use characters (U+Exxx & Fxxx <= U+F8FF) and specials (U+FExx & FFxx).
14:39:32 <lifthrasiir> Unicode originally only wanted to encode modern scripts, so that structure can be planned ahead of time
14:39:54 <int-e> `stat bin/paste
14:39:54 <HackEso> ​  File: bin/paste \   Size: 267       Blocks: 8          IO Block: 1024   regular file \ Device: 12h/18dInode: 1204642     Links: 1 \ Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x)  Uid: ( 1000/ UNKNOWN)   Gid: ( 1000/ UNKNOWN) \ Access: 2018-04-07 22:41:28.000000000 +0000 \ Modify: 2018-04-07 22:41:28.000000000 +0000 \ Change: 2018-04-07 22:41:28.000000000 +0000 \  Birth: -
14:40:12 <int-e> `paste bin/paste
14:40:13 <HackEso> https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/file/tip/bin/paste
14:40:33 <wob_jonas> lifthrashiir: I see
14:40:39 <wob_jonas> also eww
14:40:56 <int-e> ah I should be using `url
14:40:59 <wob_jonas> that's the sort of thing why I wasn't so eager to swtiching
14:44:48 <lifthrasiir> wob_jonas: that also explains why we have CJK ideograph extension A (U+3400 thru U+4DBF) *before* CJK unified ideograph (U+4E00 thru U+9FFF) :-D
14:45:16 <wob_jonas> int-e: whewh no, I blame Firefwisdom/fonts
14:45:23 <wob_jonas> I blame FireFly for wisdom/fonts
14:45:55 <wob_jonas> lifthrasiir: I don't much care about the _order_, because it's hard to plan that sort of thing in advance.
14:46:10 <wob_jonas> it's just the waste of the starting 2048 long block that seems bad
14:46:26 <lifthrasiir> wob_jonas: yeah, but it does give a historical clue about the initial allocation method
14:46:42 <wob_jonas> and I also understand that sometimes it's hard to tell in advance which characters would get lots of use
14:48:05 <lifthrasiir> the original CJK scripts as of Unicode 1.0.1 were encoded as like: general & Japanese & Bopomofo (thru U+33FF), Hangul (thru U+4DFF), then CJK unified ideograph (thru U+9FFF)
14:48:44 <lifthrasiir> and then Hangul got relocated to U+AC00 thru U+D7FF (so that, well, it is located right behind surrogate pairs that were new in Unicode 2.0)
14:49:23 <lifthrasiir> so a big hole where Hangul has left were reused for CJK ext A
14:49:25 <lifthrasiir> was*
15:02:58 <wob_jonas> ok
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