< 1540771204 28091 :danieljabailey!~danieljab@cpc75709-york6-2-0-cust725.7-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.6.5+deb2build2 - http://znc.in < 1540771205 80681 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1540771221 100760 :danieljabailey!~danieljab@cpc75709-york6-2-0-cust725.7-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1540771944 9384 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1540772519 695656 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zf5tit6s260cpd.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1540774238 90081 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1540774927 68543 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1540775740 547410 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1540776821 851022 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Quit: Qutting < 1540778173 160574 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can now type Ørjan's name properly. < 1540779558 489710 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⬚ < 1540779559 628 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2B1A DOTTED SQUARE] < 1540780951 821336 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1540782282 563642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought to implement a NNTP server program using SQLite database to store the data, although, it seem problem to me that the protocol is not Y2K compliant, isn't it? < 1540782483 568336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can we deal with this? < 1540784607 925347 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do currently existing NNTP server programs do today? They still exist, right? < 1540784807 390153 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, unfortunately. Correcting the protocol seems easily enough, but if you want to work with existing clients I do not know what to do about that. < 1540785860 80016 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gorowkawhsoxgavn JOIN :#esoteric < 1540794853 988247 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you encode Fermat's Last Theorem into Magic: the Gathering? < 1540795215 123493 :reconcyl!49fcd62f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.252.214.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540798573 538527 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1540801917 249496 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1540801933 537079 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1540804057 494401 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1540805435 211792 :reconcyl!49fcd62f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.252.214.47 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1540806268 326412 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1540806746 288807 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1540806893 883813 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1540806920 745676 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zf5tit6s260cpd.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1540807882 81026 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1540810306 930418 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. ø Ø ( møøny ) < 1540811034 690605 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gorowkawhsoxgavn QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1540811967 496813 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1540812460 262961 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@77.28.210.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540812627 422639 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1540812636 738829 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@77.28.210.95 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1540812647 327863 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@77.28.210.95 QUIT :Changing host < 1540812647 327914 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540813476 408382 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.245.148.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1540814657 771650 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1540815886 307049 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1540816356 449212 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1540819006 468772 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1540819136 82749 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jirawzivcqftvhcx JOIN :#esoteric < 1540820427 874612 :sleepnap!~thomas@2603:3015:260e:1900::13ed JOIN :#esoteric < 1540821613 588041 :moei!~moei@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1540822230 50338 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1540822311 203569 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540822345 567183 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mooooo < 1540822428 927592 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of curiosity, does Ørjan ping him? < 1540822437 922299 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellø møøny < 1540822446 890137 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1540822455 126769 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in irc, but in logreading i grep for rjan < 1540822461 760508 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll take that as a yəß < 1540822462 379930 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in the client < 1540822473 337793 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1540822485 57029 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes back to composing keys
< 1540822488 732236 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i was just seeing your earlier comment < 1540822498 112121 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1540822499 435964 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 291350Z 13010KT CAVOK 02/M07 Q1029 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 15014KT < 1540822511 613082 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :winter is coming < 1540822515 255109 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1540822516 691503 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily < 1540822517 615014 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is here, rather < 1540822525 653310 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except without snow so far < 1540822527 901060 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is in texas, and is finally no longer boiling alive
< 1540822615 285579 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we rarely have this problem in norway. < 1540822809 704459 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`insanetemp 35.6 < 1540822810 586468 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :96.0 < 1540822825 674986 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the highest temperature ever registered in norway < 1540822830 124099 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1540822868 607808 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was in 1970. just 8 days before i was born, incidentally < 1540822961 91864 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that it's called insanetemp < 1540822976 352013 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the city of trondheim (where i am) apparently had 35.0 once, in 1901. < 1540822980 515848 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Texas reached 120F in 1994. < 1540822997 22931 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sanetemp 120 < 1540822997 464061 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :48.8 < 1540823003 775759 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :out pathfinder party always refers to foot as "retard" < 1540823045 555256 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he was six retards tall) < 1540823056 933915 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: retard units. Sounds good to me. < 1540823071 517791 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feet suck anyways. SI > all < 1540823099 158293 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically HackEso may also have f2c and c2f defined, i think someone added those who didn't know about the older ones. < 1540823112 883312 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to HackEgo, anyways? < 1540823117 763156 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also frink, although does that work after the move... < 1540823129 275525 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 2 m -> feet < 1540823129 804720 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/lib/frink: error while loading shared libraries: libgcj.so.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory < 1540823133 679702 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1540823138 791463 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is slightly over 6 light-nanoseconds tall
< 1540823142 295456 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: :( < 1540823159 964973 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: please invent the perfect unit of measurement < 1540823191 599760 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony_: the cloud-at-cost server hosting it crashed and didn't come up again < 1540823207 141938 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. RIP. < 1540823216 640397 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that isp's reputation, it survived surprisingly many years before it happened. < 1540823222 919013 :FaerieFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hmm, same < 1540823246 398039 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a light nanosecond is a smidge under a foot) < 1540823260 904864 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, smidge is a good name for the perfect unit of measurement < 1540823267 493989 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the definition of a smidg- ok < 1540823306 420544 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony_: HackEso has the same hg repository as HackEgo did (possibly missing some days), but the surrounding linux system doesn't have the same installed programs so some things have broken < 1540823316 554172 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1540823317 355088 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony_: 1 smidge is the distance light travels in a vacuum during a single period of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium-133 atom < 1540823329 721527 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: so the new SI units < 1540823330 445881 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1540823338 467138 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's about 2 inches < 1540823352 131366 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.28 inches, apparently < 1540823362 783189 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.26cm < 1540824086 191983 :moony__!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540824169 177355 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1540824243 11007 :moony__!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: dumb question of the day: Is MediaWiki markup turing complete < 1540824288 827545 :FaerieFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to say this has been brought up before < 1540824296 947366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1540824321 462881 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think I may have come up with the perfect thought bubble for you, with moony's assistance, of course. < 1540824335 863660 :FaerieFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://web.archive.org/web/20131027001211/http://mentalpolyphonics.com/posts/wikimedia-proves-greenspuns-tenth-law < 1540824399 2395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540824406 959847 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can install the libgcj package, but it'll be named libgcj.so.12, so if that frink binary is referring directly to libgcj.so.12, it's not going to work. < 1540824426 746309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ldd -v lib/frink | paste < 1540824427 585183 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hack.esolangs.org/tmp/paste/paste.26915 < 1540824435 677674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony: MediaWiki has no way to write an infinite loop (unless you use Lua); this is intentional and blocks the TCness. However, if you add a looping construct, it's TC: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Wiki_Cyclic_Tag < 1540824436 868119 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. ø Ø ( ØKAY ) < 1540824457 739038 :moony__!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wow < 1540824459 66066 :moony__!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1540824498 481227 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony__: as FaerieFly says, although i don't know it enough to say for sure, although isn't there some loop prevention in templates that might ruin it? < 1540824518 608116 :moony__!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: loop prevention is toggleable last i checked. < 1540824521 274318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Chrome wants to translate the repository browser from Welsh to English... < 1540824522 899305 :moony__!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and previously didn't exist < 1540824541 484659 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540824546 586319 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1540824547 991602 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1540824557 558312 :moony__!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: YOU HAVE BEEN JUDGED. < 1540824564 457540 :moony__!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION smites
< 1540824586 382999 :moony__!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hopes ais523 isn't wearing reflective armor
< 1540824602 451340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CFJ is me, though, and I wouldn't smite myself < 1540824652 89160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, recursive template substitution isn't enough for TCness simply because it isn't actually recursive, MediaWiki detects recursion and blocks it < 1540824745 909136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you allow it then you directly have untyped lambda calculus, which is obviously TC < 1540824760 137029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, actually no < 1540824768 10950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you don't have closures < 1540824777 87001 :moony__!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :template calculus < 1540824781 290518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "apply A to B" operation only works when A is a litieral < 1540824783 203602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*literal < 1540824817 125337 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fwncy < 1540824884 411068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, back in 2006 I was more literal about specifically how I was showing something TC < 1540824931 211483 :moony__!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 NICK :ynoom < 1540824936 47771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays I often just say things like "this language embeds Thue" in the hope that everyone reading it who cares will know what I mean < 1540824936 47808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1540824947 381236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540825072 41977 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants an `xkcdlist because the updates are so unpredictable (where is the Monday comic?!).
< 1540825199 154968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I thought I'd misremembered the schedule < 1540825209 607468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably if it's late, that means it's taking longer to make than most < 1540825787 974755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1540825789 344334 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 2 m -> feet < 1540825790 575323 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ (.:53): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: < 1540825796 305801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's as far as I got. < 1540825810 748120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's some GCJ flag to compile it right that I'm missing. < 1540825852 608346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks to me like it's trying to open a GUI < 1540825861 492900 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1540825927 367146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think maybe it needs a custom main class to act as a command-line thing. < 1540825937 19460 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one specified in the jar's manifest is frink.gui.SwingInteractivePanel, which does sound pretty GUI-y. < 1540825951 257513 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was assuming it'd just run headless when given the "-e ..." arg.) < 1540826135 125921 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1540826139 795780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To run the jar file in text mode (only), use: < 1540826141 503899 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :java -cp frink.jar frink.parser.Frink" < 1540826144 468870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks promising < 1540826219 697625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 2 m -> feet < 1540826221 352281 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2500/381 (approx. 6.561679790026247) < 1540826262 191182 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this, a portmanteau of fringe and brink? < 1540826298 798388 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it looks more like yet another `units' program) < 1540826308 443326 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`units < 1540826353 600874 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ynoom: http://paste.debian.net/1049580/ < 1540826376 158295 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` units 2m ft # does this work? < 1540826376 650577 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ * 6.5616798 \ / 0.1524 < 1540826382 289064 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay. < 1540826388 306757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It's https://frinklang.org/ and I think it's pretty dead these days. < 1540826410 236562 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl6 < 1540826410 506089 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` units 2psi hPa < 1540826410 955927 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: perl6: not found < 1540826411 357983 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ * 137.89515 \ / 0.0072518869 < 1540826414 535866 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awwwwww < 1540826430 341150 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: could you install rakudo-star or something? The default timelimits are too short for me to install it i think. < 1540826432 4563 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2527 units, 72 prefixes, 56 nonlinear units \ \ You have: < 1540826451 165134 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wow, that took a while. < 1540826458 927594 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1540826462 508981 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :..yea time limit is too short < 1540826471 332267 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no linux binaries avaliable, have to build from source < 1540826476 488649 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's interactive, so it's killed by the timeout. < 1540826494 956390 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what HackEso is worst at: compiling things < 1540826497 36001 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 minutes, wow < 1540826508 841014 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch https://rakudo.perl6.org/downloads/star/rakudo-star-2018.06.tar.gz < 1540826511 97398 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2018-10-29 15:21:49 URL:https://rakudo.perl6.org/downloads/star/rakudo-star-2018.06.tar.gz [15825981/15825981] -> "rakudo-star-2018.06.tar.gz" [1] < 1540826513 698844 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries anyways
< 1540826530 191008 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` tar xfz rakudo-star-2018.06.tar.gz < 1540826540 521981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1540826542 832399 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1540826545 571928 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please do that sort of thing in tmp/ < 1540826551 391719 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mk < 1540826558 368435 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls < 1540826558 998501 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ izash.c \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quines \ quinor \ quotes \ rakudo-star-2018.06 \ rakudo-star-2018.06.tar.gz \ share \ src \ test2 \ testfile \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom < 1540826572 944665 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv rakudo-star-2018.06 tmp/ < 1540826578 403839 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot move 'rakudo-star-2018.06' to 'tmp/rakudo-star-2018.06': Directory not empty < 1540826578 956953 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls tmp < 1540826579 922859 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :paste \ rakudo-star-2018.06 \ spline \ spout \ spout.raw \ UnicodeData.txt < 1540826582 912621 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1540826587 470143 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION derps
< 1540826588 348976 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1540826596 293207 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope that undid the tar xfz < 1540826600 919682 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think i'd be good with the terminal now, i've used linux for nearly a year < 1540826619 105576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmp/ is a little unintuitive at the best of times. < 1540826628 536727 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls < 1540826629 206277 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ izash.c \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quines \ quinor \ quotes \ rakudo-star-2018.06.tar.gz \ share \ src \ test2 \ testfile \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom < 1540826644 529413 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to remember how to use tar
< 1540826669 49386 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls tmp/rakudo-star-2018.06 < 1540826670 192790 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :build_msi.bat \ Configure.pl \ docs \ LICENSE \ MANIFEST \ MoarVM \ modules \ nqp \ patches \ ports \ rakudo \ README \ tools < 1540826674 310363 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's uncompressed in there now. < 1540826677 826752 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1540826678 661444 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url quotes < 1540826679 296561 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/file/tip/quotes < 1540826681 522908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ynoom: x to extract / c to create, f to use a file as the tarball (rather than a tape drive) < 1540826684 352582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(From your mv.) < 1540826699 507126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can add a letter to specify what sort of compression's in use but when extracting, it's typically autodetected anyway < 1540826709 850177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can add v to show the progress by printing out filenames < 1540826713 33398 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd tmp/rakudo-star-2018.06; perl Configure.pl --gen-moar --make-install --prefix ~/bin/rakudo < 1540826715 144833 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR \ \ Can't compile simple C program. \ Failing command: gcc -o try.o -c try.c 2>&1 \ Error: No such file or directory \ \ Cannot continue after this error. \ On linux, maybe you need something like 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'. \ On macOS, maybe you need to install XCode and accept the XCode EULA. \ Command failed (status 512): /usr/bin/perl Configure.pl --optimize --prefix=/tmp/bin/rakudo --make-install \ \ Configuring and b < 1540826717 922049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's about it in terms of common uses of tar < 1540826724 18571 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow < 1540826740 914309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so normally it'd be "tar xf tarball.tgz" or "tar czf tarball.tgz file1.c file2.c" < 1540826750 601493 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc < 1540826750 601557 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 5: gcc: command not found < 1540826754 72560 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaAAAAA < 1540826757 25940 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if you want to prune the repo, you still have a chance. < 1540826765 640725 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` clang < 1540826766 523073 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 5: clang: command not found < 1540826770 404452 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/frink < 1540826772 238533 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitïa < 1540826779 860287 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc < 1540826780 418219 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: gcc: not found < 1540826782 538400 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes fizzie
< 1540826783 142642 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits lib/frink < 1540826784 578243 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ompil r anuall nitïa < 1540826883 689162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yeah, I sort of expected that to break. < 1540826910 54150 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's okay, nitia has been pretty lonely :) < 1540826918 999359 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now they have three new friends < 1540826982 791964 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I updated the checked-out copy to the revision before the fetch, which I *think* will make it forget those commits after that. < 1540826983 174027 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, I'll need to run to a meeting now. < 1540826991 586160 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't break everything while I'm gone. < 1540827007 975024 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 0's out everything's permissions
< 1540827042 967173 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've been there, it was a mess < 1540827053 905233 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I believe you already know < 1540827063 878846 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1540827297 482702 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1540827354 829450 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1540827392 400935 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1540827476 244303 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540827515 698915 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc < 1540827516 141410 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: gcc: not found < 1540827569 240938 :ynoom!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1540827738 240282 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1540827746 87631 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.redd.it/x9triplll1v11.jpg < 1540827751 259694 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub stalinSort {my$x=$_[0];map$x>$_?():($x=$_),@_} < 1540827773 236929 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1540827837 328179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I think that's more commonly called dropsort < 1540827856 552195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I implemented it in 5 bytes in two different languages recently: https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/61808/lossy-sorting-implement-dropsort/170910#170910 < 1540828121 717337 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldr (\x -> (x:) . filter (x <=)) [] [1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4] < 1540828122 691191 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1540828124 272665 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,2,2,3,3,4] < 1540828135 392340 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1540828196 387705 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nubBy (>) [1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4] < 1540828198 749523 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,2,2,3,3,4] < 1540828747 255267 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540830532 48470 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1540830568 573414 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1540830738 308897 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1540830753 966838 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1540830799 238883 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1540831411 252402 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540832221 756128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1540832499 165025 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1540832961 190998 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1540833018 976791 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540833040 543271 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :Client Quit < 1540833112 362914 :paul2520!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1540833112 492865 :paul2520!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com QUIT :Changing host < 1540833112 492938 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540833439 60136 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : TIL that ghc does fixity resolution after splicing template haskell expressions... how do I unsee that mess :) <-- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1540833586 278980 :TellsTogo!0517feac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.23.254.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540834087 603908 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1540834629 791566 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1540834666 421400 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1540834726 465374 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1540834740 428975 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1540836597 488353 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1540837625 371857 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1540839052 886508 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1540839427 196978 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540839438 682283 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc < 1540839439 191999 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: gcc: not found < 1540839442 309741 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prods fizzie
< 1540839444 284732 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no C compiler < 1540839454 672752 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc < 1540839455 159762 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/cc: 2: /hackenv/bin/cc: gcc: not found < 1540839472 398370 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1540839561 777369 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't recognize ineiros
< 1540839567 120234 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ineiros < 1540839568 330551 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07ineiros: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09EFnet 02or 06DALnet.) < 1540839571 26460 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just in case :P < 1540839741 799468 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've been lurking here for ages. < 1540839749 63070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course there's no wrong use of relcome. < 1540839896 619494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc --version < 1540839897 280934 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc (Debian 6.3.0-18+deb9u1) 6.3.0 20170516 \ Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO \ warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. < 1540839943 56482 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls tmp < 1540839943 629623 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :paste \ rakudo-star-2018.06 \ spline \ spout \ spout.raw \ UnicodeData.txt < 1540839964 146021 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd tmp/rakudo-star-2018.06; perl Configure.pl --gen-moar --make-install --prefix ~/bin/rakudo < 1540839981 14193 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it time out? No-body knows until up to 2 minutes from now < 1540839994 811225 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1540840007 744385 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/rakudo < 1540840008 502155 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access 'bin/rakudo': No such file or directory < 1540840013 449683 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :..mm? < 1540840029 299290 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls < 1540840029 961525 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ izash.c \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quines \ quinor \ quotes \ share \ src \ test2 \ testfile \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom < 1540840034 768230 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls tmp < 1540840035 500593 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :paste \ rakudo-star-2018.06 \ spline \ spout \ spout.raw \ UnicodeData.txt < 1540840041 457357 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ~ < 1540840042 65247 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp < 1540840052 657617 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1540840060 160964 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd tmp/rakudo-star-2018.06; perl Configure.pl --gen-moar --make-install --prefix /bin/rakudo < 1540840081 515681 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gcc < 1540840086 234318 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1540840090 710448 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1540840091 328128 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? C < 1540840092 114327 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1540840100 593674 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /bin/rakudo < 1540840101 301160 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access '/bin/rakudo': No such file or directory < 1540840108 496703 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls tmp < 1540840109 194184 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :paste \ rakudo-star-2018.06 \ spline \ spout \ spout.raw \ UnicodeData.txt < 1540840113 713310 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is confused
< 1540840120 104896 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs
< 1540840126 347248 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION moves to PM
< 1540840183 229240 :TellsTogo!0517feac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.23.254.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1540840209 796721 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sqlite3 -version < 1540840210 379978 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: sqlite3: command not found < 1540840226 125049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should add the latest version of SQLite into HackEso, I think. < 1540840250 800964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It should be easy to install, since it is only one file.) < 1540840311 316445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You should also put gcc, which seem to be missing, but probably should be on) < 1540840319 870394 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: gcc was added < 1540840321 612679 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc < 1540840322 811976 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​gcc: fatal error: no input files \ compilation terminated. < 1540840366 815220 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl6 < 1540840367 344118 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: perl6: not found < 1540840369 972306 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs
< 1540840383 461813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a difference an underscore makes. < 1540840474 71879 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it work, good < 1540840550 761342 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony_: If the Debian package rakudo (2016.12-1) is good enough for your purposes, I could install that from apt. This is Debian stable, though, so it's a little old. < 1540840563 807475 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sqlite3 --version < 1540840565 270683 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.16.2 2017-01-06 16:32:41 a65a62893ca8319e89e48b8a38cf8a59c69a8209 < 1540840578 116089 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a old version of SQLite. < 1540840591 261402 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i don't think perl 6 can be installed the way i'm trying to do. Either that or i'm fucking it up horribly. You mind doing it? https://perl6.org/downloads/. Also, latest perl6 is generally best < 1540840593 770719 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latest version is 3.25.2 < 1540840620 271494 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Seriously, old perl 6 is slow haha) < 1540840782 506253 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://nxadm.github.io/rakudo-pkg/ is also an option, it provides more up to date prebuilt binaries < 1540840900 837161 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can give building it a go, but if it doesn't go cleanly, I'm not going to spend time poking at it. < 1540840923 773554 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mk < 1540840939 262514 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rakudo-pkg shuld be up to date tho < 1540840955 229465 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it'll work, i just forgot about it. (Can't do it myself tho, it has to be added to your package repo list) < 1540841797 694230 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did it work, or am i being impatient < 1540841890 492553 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540841900 558211 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` /bin/cat bin/insanetemp < 1540841903 144120 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ print_args_or_input "$@" | dc -e "1k0 1?*9*5/32+p" < 1540841903 568125 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` /bin/cat bin/ctof < 1540841906 116196 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl \ $c=0+$ARGV[0]; printf"%.2f°C = %.2f°F",$c,$c*9/5+32; < 1540841906 424106 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` /bin/cat bin/ftoc < 1540841908 867880 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl \ $f=0+$ARGV[0]; printf"%.2f°F = %.2f°C",$f,($f-32)*5/9; < 1540841918 304597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs out of memory while building. < 1540841918 432830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Won't have time for more right now, at work. < 1540841937 34084 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I added ftoc and ctof < 1540841944 524728 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ctof 20 < 1540841945 573725 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :20.00°C = 68.00°F < 1540841950 405766 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ftoc 20 50 < 1540841950 849227 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :20.00°F = -6.67°C < 1540841954 900028 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ftoc 50 < 1540841955 332881 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :50.00°F = 10.00°C < 1540842087 243706 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1540842132 493329 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: xkcd still posts every monday, wednesday, and friday, it just usually posts very late in those days, whereas years ago it used to post early < 1540842143 156813 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the comics got mostly pretty boring, so who cares < 1540842308 192179 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540842403 321719 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ynoom: x to extract / c to create, f to use a file as the tarball" (and two more lines of tar help) => I'd add that if you're running tar as root, then (--no-same-permissions --no-same-owner) stops tar from trying to restore owner and mode; and that (--no-recursion --null -T "$listfile") lets you explicitly give a list of files to compress, nul-te < 1540842403 412125 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rminated. < 1540842417 990208 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used options other than those, but the rest are pretty crazy < 1540842487 102048 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also t instead of x to print filenames, tv to print filenames and attributes in ls format < 1540842523 548385 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to install 7za onto HackEgo once, but failed < 1540842538 157817 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll compile a copy of perl6 for HackEso directly myself then < 1540842541 628598 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted it for fetching an archive and decompressing it < 1540842563 280920 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and I used the -C option often < 1540842565 24028 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used the options x c t --ignore-failed-read --numeric-owner -S (the last three only for making backups, though) < 1540842590 146832 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1540842593 816105 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch https://github.com/nxadm/rakudo-pkg/releases/download/v2018.10/rakudo-pkg-Debian9_2018.10-01_amd64.deb < 1540842597 752547 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2018-10-29 19:49:56 URL:https://github-production-release-asset-2e65be.s3.amazonaws.com/66966577/4a6af880-db93-11e8-8126-0d480a815d0c?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAIWNJYAX4CSVEH53A%2F20181029%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20181029T194954Z&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Signature=f654365ac26c786cb4b276e3f5ecc201f59fbbac96b64868bb2c302578cb4b0d&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&actor_id=0&response-content-disposition=attachment%3B%20file < 1540842603 895019 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to cd before reading files to add or writing extracted files, but after opening the archive given for the -f argument < 1540842606 18454 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That should work, actually. Try installing that. < 1540842772 885884 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I see < 1540843024 584952 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you compress the tarball then? < 1540843039 818395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I did then compress it, and store the compressed file on a DVD. < 1540843099 380437 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That is, for the backups) < 1540843125 196943 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And actually for the backups I used three DVDs, one for /var, one for /home, and one for everything else. < 1540843562 69498 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you suggest for setting up my own NNTP server for Unusenet? < 1540843580 340593 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've no idea, I never used usenet. < 1540843598 448566 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, here I am on IRC, but usenet is alien past technology to me. < 1540843618 900635 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: google has a public usenet interface built into google+ < 1540843643 465637 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony_: the same google+ that they're discontinuing about now? < 1540843649 180259 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any usenet url, for example rec.games < 1540843651 523251 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1540843653 356958 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not google+ < 1540843655 960464 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :google groups < 1540843667 313804 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that makes more sense < 1540843710 708355 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric stuff might hide out somewhere in comp.* < 1540843732 673681 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony_: and there are other web mirrors, and some two-way mailing list gateways too I think < 1540843761 173262 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used those, I guess, just not usenet directly < 1540843824 816759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :NNTP also is not Y2K compliant. Correcting the protocol is easy enough to do, although I don't know if it needs to deal with non-Y2K-compliant clients somehow. Maybe, if the server is only Unusenet and not Usenet, since Unusenet was invented after AD 2000, and it is still early in the century, it may be unimportant to do that. < 1540843997 45463 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:fb8b:fb15:c1d3:a33a JOIN :#esoteric < 1540843997 176879 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:fb8b:fb15:c1d3:a33a QUIT :Changing host < 1540843997 176931 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1540844014 686727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could treat two digit years as being after NNTP was invented, so that existing clients would work, I guess. Maybe some clients might improperly specify "118" for the year, but it is easily enough to deal with that too < 1540844078 924450 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if people have copied archives of pre-usenet messages to usenet with the original date? < 1540844127 873424 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "Date" MIME header is Y2K compliant, although date ranges in the NNTP protocol aren't. < 1540844138 665429 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I think it isn't relevant. < 1540844145 791737 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1540844385 777326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there NNTP server software that uses a SQLite database? Should I write such a software? < 1540844596 605387 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will you set up a NNTP server at esolangs.org? < 1540845002 796628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. I have a feeling the audience might be a little limited. The web forum never got any traffic to speak of, and the mailing list died too. < 1540845022 761381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to run Leafnode at home. I think I might also have experimented with INN, though of course not connected to Usenet. < 1540845094 359647 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1540845113 346903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you do with INN? < 1540845158 419725 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always get confused between the acronyms ICYMI and IASIP < 1540845221 452151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: If I remember right, I hosted a set of groups for a group of friends. I don't remember what they were *about*, though. < 1540845231 525202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might've been for a fake standardization organization? < 1540845271 847212 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: just to make sure, in M:tG you haven't downloaded the oracle database from the New Gatherer or Scryfall or anywhere else yet, right? < 1540845311 48736 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: That is correct, although I might do some time, maybe. < 1540845318 527786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have downloaded all of the rules though) < 1540845319 153216 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, me too < 1540845352 25477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think we called it IOCTA, but I don't remember what it stood for. Grepping through old logs finds just one line (from 2003) where I mention that I don't remember what it stands for. < 1540845411 12114 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Unusenet is a way to define standardized hierarchies and enables mirroring of non-Usenet newsgroups. < 1540845441 734587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the IOCTA newsgroups (if that's what I used INN for) are long defunct, unfortunately. < 1540845480 231749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were probably compliant with neither Usenet nor Unusenet anyways, I think? < 1540845487 249374 :moony_!4b6c6ba6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.108.107.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1540845504 562663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, very likely. < 1540845552 819885 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll have to try to download their data even if I don't process them, just so I have an archive of the current state for reference. < 1540845565 272392 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that may be good < 1540845574 56708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My former university had a relatively lively non-Usenet (and non-Unusenet) newsgroup hierarchy, but I think those have been turned down. < 1540846132 579685 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: argh! New Gatherer is terrible. they still can't make their software handle flip/split/transform/meld cards properly. Even if I download just the whole list of c. 190 pages with 100 cards per pages in the standard format, then it probably won't tell which cards transform to what, it only shows faces. < 1540846157 194375 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The individual card pages do tell, but I don't want to download all 19000 of those. < 1540846202 48097 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that data will have to be reconstructed after the fact, hoping that it will be very rare that the name or transform pairing of a card changes. < 1540846228 198943 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a lot of heuristics you can use to check, but still. < 1540846265 723473 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try download anyway, but I'll have to check scryfall later too. < 1540846290 581010 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1540846958 452069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they do somehow change the name, the multiverse ID number still should be same, hopefully < 1540846999 924172 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although there will be a multiverse ID number for each printing of the card) < 1540847054 747048 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, the multiverse ID number seems to be adjacent < 1540847061 573820 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean if they change the name of the card? < 1540847073 664610 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I wouldn't rely on that, since they can scrub that by simply making a New New Oracle < 1540847084 611916 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the card names are more stable than their fucking websites < 1540847090 113045 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they only changed names like three times < 1540847097 576017 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and their oracle list twice < 1540847152 271332 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, if they change the name, the multiverse ID number probably won't change I expect. If they do change it, it might no longer be called "multiverse ID", since I think it was based on software previously called Multiverse but they changed it, so if they change the ID numbers they will change that too I guess (but of course I do not actually know) < 1540847188 184881 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the name changes were, let's see, all cards with Æ recently, Ærathi Berserker before written history, and I can't think of any other but there might be one < 1540847216 748131 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were probably changes for how they displayed flip/split cards, and the visible name in the Oracle may have changed at that point < 1540847280 196724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Changing the ID numbers would also break many links on other webpages) < 1540847304 550153 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um so? it's not like Wizards cares about that < 1540847318 718152 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they took off an entire fucking discussion forum that was full of useful M:tG stuff < 1540847429 401511 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1540847453 459209 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540847501 391978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I still expect if they do change it, the old links will link to an error message rather than the wrong card. < 1540847529 587570 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1540847648 271580 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I'll have to check the last page before and after the download to make sure that they haven't added any new cards during my download < 1540847708 349349 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 QUIT :Client Quit < 1540847847 457523 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540847850 756909 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 QUIT :Client Quit < 1540848017 920292 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :experimenting with hypothetical reified "memory addresses", in the form of "memory" objects that you can write to, access the value at and "add" "offsets" in the form of other objects to < 1540848084 966420 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. "v" is a unique "memory", "v ← expr" assigns the value of the expression to "v", and "$v" reads the value at that memory < 1540848481 523581 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540848509 523776 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm starting a download of those c. 190 pages of New Gatherer now. I won't do Scryfall today. < 1540848516 717648 :moei!~moei@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1540848629 228033 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to do some basic parsing, just to reduce the data, but I won't do any complicated processing like identifying errors or messing with split/flip/transform/meld cards < 1540849067 343106 :MDude!~MDude@71.50.218.48 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1540849560 432008 :MDude!~MDude@71.50.218.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540850096 204084 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1540850115 742594 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1540850142 501011 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1540850953 313079 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.245.148.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1540851986 545080 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1540852438 395092 :sleepnap!~thomas@2603:3015:260e:1900::13ed PART :#esoteric < 1540852667 604669 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, did you try the dpkg? (Sorry for consistently bothering you) < 1540854473 832847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1145 < 1540854474 305885 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1145: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1540854991 310434 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tyoony < 1540855726 575447 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@46.217.125.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540855797 735083 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zf5tit6s260cpd.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1540855867 454840 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1540855874 268437 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@46.217.125.95 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1540855907 939872 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@46.217.125.95 QUIT :Changing host < 1540855907 939928 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540855991 464690 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, ty for what? < 1540855992 169953 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl6 < 1540855992 691867 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: perl6: not found < 1540855992 910250 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl6 --version < 1540855993 485615 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: perl6: not found < 1540856025 122757 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony, I apparently misread shachaf's line as coming from you < 1540856028 29253 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tyachaf < 1540856033 469930 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1540857251 58954 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1540857333 373054 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1540857362 31201 :wob_jonas!b03f18f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh great. so the New Gatherer html output starts with '