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00:49:48 <ais523> zzo38: normally you should try deferred operations a few times with a long waiting period between them (e.g. try an hour, then a day, then a week), and notify someone (ideally the person who requested the operation) if it fails every time (then stop trying0
00:49:56 <ais523> this is what email relays do, and this seems like a similar situation
00:51:49 <zzo38> Yes, I think it is a similar situation I think
00:57:26 <zzo38> A local user posted the message, although the subscriber will be a remote user and if that operation fails then likely the subscriber cannot be notified.
00:59:27 <zzo38> What would likely to need to eventually be done is to eventually remove the subscriber from the local subscription list.
00:59:45 <b_jonas> ais523: yeah, that one confused me back in the late 1990s when the internet was very new. I sent an email to a mailing list, and later got an automated response that it couldn't be delivered. The mail was delivered to the mailing list and most people on it, only it couldn't be delivered to one person joined to the list, and some intermediate server somewhere mailed me about that.
01:01:44 <ais523> the mailing list is misconfigured, it should have asked for that sort of staus message to be sent to the list server
01:01:53 <ais523> (so that it can bounce the person in question off the list)
01:02:00 <b_jonas> ais523: yes, it was probably misconfigured. but that happens.
01:02:30 <b_jonas> and the notification probably told me who it couldn't deliver the mail to.
01:03:59 <ais523> <qmail> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at «domain». I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
01:04:25 <ais523> people don't write error messages like that nowadays :-D
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02:51:26 <zzo38> With the Netsubscribe even if it fails, the message is still public so someone can still read it later even if their side is down.
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09:06:45 <zzo38> My question though was about what method should be used to set up the future attempts. Consider that the system may shut down or power failure or whatever before then, too, and that the program is setuid and setgid (although not to root).
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13:18:57 <arseniiv> hi, someone played Submachine game series? (by Mateusz Skutnik). I played several, nice work
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19:53:55 <b_jonas> I had a dream of a paradoxical statement, but when I woke up and reconstructed it, it of course wasn't paradoxical at all.
19:54:08 <b_jonas> I'll have to write it down though.
19:57:20 <imode> combinators are the stuff of life.
19:58:59 <imode> they're the way of life, man. every arbitrary transformation set reduces to a set of combinators lmao.
19:59:06 <imode> hence the source of that joke. "stuff of life".
19:59:39 <imode> and other building blocks and shit.
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23:26:30 <zzo38> Now I mentioned more specific of my question about setting future attempts for the Netsubscribe. Now do you know how to answer?
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