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< 1542918577 173906 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :an object could have a prototype, then, by appending the prototype to the end of the object < 1542918848 744055 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-228.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1542918911 777523 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-228.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: that's the lisp way, but I don't see why the representation, such as a singly-linked list vs an abstract dictionary with a prototype pointer matters. < 1542919041 239509 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-228.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, it's _a_ lisp way < 1542919106 832395 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I didn't quite mean a "representation" but a language in which everything is, explicitly, a pair < 1542919127 253787 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-228.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: yeah, but why is that good? < 1542919143 79265 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :objects would have a key-value pair as their head, and the "tail" of the object contains the rest of the key-value pairs < 1542919148 545384 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-228.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than perhaps because it's easier to implement if you're only the guy writing the core language, but not the library < 1542919215 188511 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-228.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: yeah, and then you won't know how you should update a member of an object in place: add it to the head or update it in place in the list body where it may be owned by the prototype < 1542919276 307535 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: if you want to add a member to an object and the object has at least one member as its head, then you can insert the new member in the tail of the object, which ensures that it is not accidentally part of the prototype < 1542919294 655948 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-228.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: in the _tail_? not in the head? < 1542919311 686712 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. (("x", 3), proto), and if you want to add "y" = 4, you'd have (("x", 3), (("y", 4), proto)) < 1542919326 508232 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-228.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: you can insert a new pair to the head, but then you'll grow the object endlessly because you keep inserting the same key many times instead of updating it in place < 1542919449 163539 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-228.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless of course you want a language like haskell or standard ML or prolog, where you can never update ordinary members in place, only specially designated mutable slots or members of specially designated mutable vectors < 1542919516 723494 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :(("x", 3), (("y", 4), ("proto", proto))) but then that's barely weird in any way, just a possibly inefficient way to store objects < 1542920046 145207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other thing to do is like characteristics with continuous effects in Magic: the Gathering. < 1542920814 201967 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp QUIT :Excess Flood < 1542920872 517436 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp JOIN :#esoteric < 1542921548 856095 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-228.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ok, now you're scaring me. for linked lists, at least I understand the rules. < 1542922346 19708 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Quit: Bye! < 1542922380 233441 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1542922433 202500 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Excess Flood < 1542922455 718116 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric > 1542924510 515153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[074214]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=58477 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+2488) 10Gdel number self-interpreter < 1542925303 485739 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp QUIT :Excess Flood < 1542925329 660998 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp JOIN :#esoteric < 1542926003 838947 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1542926311 422428 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1542926437 690462 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1542927404 174293 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Quit: Bye! < 1542927422 453390 :moony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric > 1542927550 105364 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[074214]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=58478&oldid=58477 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+53) 10Add known example < 1542927616 730299 :derpy!~quassel@ppp-62-216-204-64.dynamic.mnet-online.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1542927816 466310 :derpy!~quassel@ppp-62-216-204-64.dynamic.mnet-online.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1542928527 323560 :Storkman!~Storkman@185.24.219.33 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1542928618 552711 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8E1.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1542929260 713080 :Storkman!~Storkman@storkman.xyz JOIN :#esoteric < 1542929967 855974 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1542930612 912497 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric